unhinged lesbian rants about pixar's luca 🌈 

OMG YOU ARE RIGHT I DIDN'T NOTICED! It makes a lot of sense, I love the movie even more now 😭💕🏳️‍🌈 thank you for pointing that out

@@Lucia-ct2sj your emojis are annoying.

@@emilypackman9959 yes you are correct because I am correct

Plot twist: Trump deports Luca back to Italy... ...jk

EXACTLY! Both Luca and Alberto's last shots were of them as full on sea monsters which is amazing 🥺

you just made me cry with a youtube comment omg

Dang it! Now I’m tearing up! I love this reading of the movie.

I guess you can say they released their inhibitions and felt the rain on their skin

@@etcetera5605 well, no one else could feel it for them.

And it’s even sadder when you realize that a lot of lesbian had to do this in order to live

i needed someone to mention it thank you so much

I was waiting for it-

Uh oh really

Hahahahahaha

Man that guy is a legend for that quote

You could say that about any gay 😅

@@RumbleBee1102 fair😅

Cant believe when males show any kind of emotion other than "being cool"their labelled gay

@@hinamatsuro1908 I can understand that take, but this interpretation of Luca is based off more than just Luca and Alberto’s closeness. It’s a matter of the the metaphors this movie makes that can give something for queer people to relate to. The idea of not being able to show your true self and not being accepted by your family because you decided to push against the norms. It’s all explained in this video.

@@discordiadingle3203 yes

To me that makes him double badass

Except he didn't lose an arm in an accident, he was born without it.

@@0deadx21 that- that’s literally what the comment says. Did you not even read it?

I was like "...did they really introduce a character who's disabled, for no particular reason? Because if they did, that's amazing!!"

@@bloodieghostie Same ☠☠☠☠

LMAO I CAN SEE THAT

Lol

I see it.

No more rainbow fish. Now we have sea monster boys.

hAHA I CAN TOTALLY SEE THAT

There not💀the director said they aren’t gay

@@monkeydluffy7735 bro if your so pressed about the fact that Luca and Alberto might be gay they why did you click on this video

@@squeezingwetfarts What they simply said that the creator said that they aren't gay

@@Alexa_Plays1ARCHIVED Okay but they literally said the same exact reply to any comment that says they ship these two boys

im nit ruling out that they could begay but tbh it could just be a close friend relationship type of thing

Exactly. I'm pretty sure Disney would have had them kiss a cheek or something when Luca left if Alberto was a girl.

💯💯💯

*slams table* THANK YOU

Right it’s never a problem for the straight kids but as soon as something is even slightly gay it’s suddenly ‘too much’ for a kids movie

Factsss

Exactly! I loved those bits of representation used in the film and how there were no stereotypes relating to sex,race,size,etc. At all

omg i didnt notice that last thing u said, that's great!

I was surprised at how unique the movie was esp. because it dealt with disneys classic “i want to go to the outside world but parents say no :(“ trope. But despite its similarity to other movies it still stood out and became my fave of the year

I was so happy when he said he was born without his full arm and also that there was no major reaction to it. It's just like "oh, okay, whatever." Doesn't matter, no need to make a fuss. Yes!

I really love Massimo, he's easily one of the best Disney/Pixar dads. I love how he cares about Giulia and the father-and-son relationship he develops with Alberto too. I think this movie has a lot of very well done male representation and that's just great!

OMG!!! THIS

THIS MADE ME LAUGH WAY TOO HARD

PFFT

SCREAM IT LOUDER FOR DISNEY TO HEAR

LMFAO

Gay people are born adults

@@chriselster3 true

I know, I always hate it when they say they’re too young to know! Why are all the Straights™ so insistent on buying shirts for their nine year old boy that say something like ‘This is a LADIES man’ but the moment we suggest that their kid might be gay they’re all like nOOo hE’s tOO yOunG tO kNoW!!11!! So he should be too young to know if he’s straight too, right?!

its because in their ignorance, they assume romance=sex when it comes to lgbt relationships, which is absurd because when its a heterosexual relationship like Carl and Ellie, it _is_ romance and adorable and completely valid. its the double standard that annoys me

I knew I was straight when I was like 4 years old lol yeah that argument of how you don't know your sexuality around that age is false.

No straight explanation.

I honestly cannot find a straight explanation for this

@@polariized because there's no heterosexual explaination for this

that's as straight as i am, and i'm a lesbian

@@marameowpng exactly

it certainly is written like one ☝️

Wonderful dad

Haha!

Reminds me of that one meme with the dude and the butterfly

@@petscopkid same ahahahah

OMG yes

Your mom seems cool lol

I would’ve said something to my mom about how it’s queer coded but she hates if I mention gay things, so I really can’t do much with her about the movie

My homophobic mother knew it was gay and tried to find a heterosexual explanation for it, she didnt like the movie

@@tenshipi170 oof

✋💀fr

PLS-

Your bro is cool.

So true! It's not like I became gay overnight once I hit eighteen. This has always been me, and I actually find it really validating to look back and realise all the innocent crushes I had on girls when I was little.

No one asked about ur gender

thats not why were saying they cant be gay, you're putting children in romantic situations when they're just being kids getting along well

@@memeymeme. yeah, you could interpret it as just friendship but like, if luca or alberto was a girl, you cannot tell me that rhe majority of people who watch luca would ship it so.. but yeah your point is still valid, queer ppl like me and the others just want some good representation :>

@@noqaur8623 Luca and Alberto dont have to be gay to represent lgtbq struggle, obviously the movie is clearly an lgtbq support movie, but automatically thinking that makes the characters gay or if they aren't gay themselves then it cant be a gay film is stupid.

She didn’t forget. She mentioned it.

Glad I'm not the only one to think that lol

Sorry to break it to you, but they're sisters However you can still use the metaphor if you like to

YES.

@@XMarx-it1yj where did it say that? (sorry if this comes off harsh I don't mean it to. I'm genuinely curious)

The cognitive dissonance 😌🔫

Disney some movies in everyone else’s eyes 🏳️‍🌈 In Disney’s eyes [THEY WHERE JUST FRIENDS]

@Grace-Angelle Lombrage but Pixar has made an lgbtq+ short and their staff is apparently very diverse (Emphases on apparently bc I'm too lazy to actually fact check that) so I think it's more Disney than Pixar. I think they cut out a gay storyline and Disney literally straightened it out

@Alejandro Valencia baby they wanna sell it to China, not India, India is not a big market for Disney anyways, also in India being queer is legalised. and 5 days before Luca one of our state court banned conversion therapy and passed a law to add lgbt curriculum. So I don't think India would be their biggest concern for this

Its a Pixar movie

Oh that was VERY obvious to me when I watched it. (And honestly? It was the queer subtext of what queer childhood Actually Looks Like (especially when you won’t be able to put words to those experiences to understand them better when you’re older Because of things like familial/societal homophobia keeping those terms inaccessible.)) Like, the whole “yet another Boys’ Childhood Slice of Life”? Yeah I got bored of those back in the 90s-00s when those films were still regularly made with 80s and Late 70s often replayed as well. It’s quite literally the “yup they’re definitely gay even if the crew can’t/won’t outright say it or admit it after the fact” that did something interesting

j 😨

Love this comment

THIS! THANK YOU!

SHUSBDIDBEUD THIS MADE ME RELATE SO HARD-

Too young doesn't mean they don't have those feelings.

THIS

*cough cough* Achilles and Patroclus *cough cough*

And they were roommates

fr its like Achilles and Patroclus all over again

And like Laurens and Hamilton

THIS EXACTLY

Mmmmm.... Then it would be "homoromantic" and not "homosexual"?

Asexual is a sexualtity

EXACTLY like nobody's mind goes directly to imagining sex whenever they see a hetero couple but when they are gay that's all people think about

@@roseumbra4814 i can confirm this is not what i think about

What you pointed out made me love that train scene more than I already do. And yeah, it seems like the people who dislike the idea of Luca or Alberto being gay are either homophobic or genuinely think that any character is straight until proven gay. People interpreting the things the animators clearly put in that were suggesting a crush or closer than friends... I mean, it isn't like people are thinking this is a gay movie for no reason.

@@Nightman221k exactly!! it's so frustrating sometimes...

Disney queer-coded movies are just me when I was still closeted.

“Nono… I’m not… GAY.” I say as I do the hands

True, but also Luca is like 10000% more gay than Onward. The lesbian cop could reasonably be cut out of the film, but it's pretty obvious to anyone that the gay themes in Luca are, like, almost integral to the story. You could absolutely read it as just being about heterosexual friendship, but the qualities that people point out as being queer cannot be removed from the film e.g. Luca and Alberto's bond, the coming out scene, their illicit relationship.

I thought the cop was non binary?

That is why I am not watching this gay Movie and the DVD

THIIIS.

TRUEEEE I absolutely KNEW I wouldn’t be the only one thinking this

Kids rebel...doesn't mean they are gay.

@@vpasquini2824 they’re gay, ethel

Yeah i really dont se they gay, just friends, i cant shipp them im sorry ;w;

To some extent, I get it. Hetero romances are a dime a dozen, but gay ones are rare, especially in big-name kid's media. Friendships are much more common; if you hear hoofbeats, expect horses, not zebras. That logic does break down when you can see the metaphorical stripes, of course...and Luca definitely seems like a stripe movie.

bruhhhh This opened my eyes... before reading this I was like,, they could just be friends or they could have been crushing.. BUT THEN I IMAGINED THIS but with one of them as girls and I was like yeah ok they definitely had a thing 😶

Agreed

I think it’s because hetero relationships are so common that people kinda just expect it now and don’t really see the signs when it’s most definitely gay. Like the other person said people expect a horse not a zebra. And when one comes along they just think it’s a horse

most definitely. i feel like they're denying it because of homophobia as well.

I was thinking the exact same thing!

That and another Pixar Studios example. Carl and Ellie from Up. They have very similar personalities/interactions to Alberto and Luca. Alberto is boisterous, reckless, but has a caring protective side like Ellie. Luca is timid and thoughtful, but has an adventurous side that his partner brings out which is exactly like Carl! If Luca or Alberto were an opposite sex pair people would say it was just like Carl and Ellie and they'd think, "Aw, they'll get married when they grow up just like Carl and Ellie did in Up."

Well what else was he supposed to do

@@monkeydluffy7735 grab him by the shoulders bruh

Same.

Someone embroider that stat

Put that on a t shirt!

Imma say dis doe, the creator said the characters aren't gay

@@lil-oah6592 that doesn’t matter, because art is subjective. Our interpretation of this art is that it’s a gay story, and nothing can take that away from us.

They needed an excuse to call them straight

Why did they need to kiss?

@@TheGamerRist they didn’t need to it just would have been cute, cuz they never really go that bold in movies like this

@@celery6365 You never know.

@@TheGamerRist never know what?

exactly !! not to talk abt the fact that the movie aired during pride month

The director said that the movie was about his life with his best friend.

I don’t see how this movie is gay

@@monkeydluffy7735 Some say it's gay because two boys have a really good relationship and one gets jealous that the other is spending more time with another friend. Now I'm fine with people interpreting it like that, even the director said he was fine with it, but I don't know why two boys can't just have a best friend relationship without being classified as gay.

@@Puggers22 People aren't saying they can't just be friends. They are interpreting it as gay, but that's a subjective reading that nobody is trying to force onto anyone. The only people forcing a binary reading of the film is Disney, by openly stating that the film is heterosexual, therefore limiting discourse over it to a lame arbitrary fact-check.

LOL me too, I watched it with my friends and said “gay” at least 40 times. (also I love ur pfp)

@@moeshrooms385 That's awesome And thanks!

@Why Why ok that’s ur personal opinion, but people are allowed to believe they do love each other. Please leave people alone.

Or the romance in Ponyo

@@spicyapplejuice9099 ppl thought there was romance in ponyo? 🤢

@@ezriquinn6706 they literally kiss on the mouth at the end? And there's a whole arse scene just beforehand about Ponyo's parents testing Sosuke, and whether he really loves her and will take care of her?? Just saying, that's one of the less ambiguous romances in a Ghibli film 😂 and it's a completely innocent love story between kids

@Why Why I get that but I also think that it has the found family trope, which is like a known thing that a lot of people who don’t fit in (ie.queer people) flock to. I think you can interpret it as platonic, I can interpret it as a mostly coming of age with a romance side plot, our opinions can co exist simply because my opinion truly doesn’t change much of the plot, like the only thing that might’ve happened differently was like a kiss on the cheek, or dramatic hand holding.

I wholeheartedly agree

I stand by this.

@𝕤 𝕜 𝕪 𝕝 𝕒 𝕣 That makes sense, through a lot of people must have been on board with all that theming subtext, seamonster, I can ge behund that, if a more than one person was on board with that gay "sub" text idea.

Oml me too! I had read about the director stating that this movie was supposed to be about friendship, not queer romance, but the moment I watched it I could not stop thinking about the body language, facial expressions and delivery of the scenes between Alberto and Luca 😭

I don''t think this can be a one person decision, all of these things go through multiple states of development and multiple people, I think either they didn't see it, what I find improbable or they can't admit because Disney.

AHHHHH IM CRYING THIS IS SO CUTE!!!

THEY TOTALLY DID IT ON PURPOSE I CAN'T

*YES*

THERE IS NO HETEROSEXUAL EXPLANATION

Totally! Or maybe they'll even make continuations in the next years where they end up together, who knows

H e l l o past human being. I am delighted to inform you that Luberto is confirmed here in the wonderful world of 2024.

I feel like he really did mean it when he said it, but he really shouldn't deny the fact that even if the characters aren't actually gay it is a story that has a lot of people relating to the character's storyline. If anything the movie being gay was more accidental, or wasn't ment to be interpreted that way but still opens that door to allow it to be seen like that as again a lot of people do relate to it and that idea shouldn't be turned down for that reason. Weither the characters are Gay or not, dating or just having a genuine friendship, their story obviously reaches out far and that fact should never be denied.

I’m choosing to believe that they lied in order to get pixar/disney to sign off on it

Why should it even be gay? Come on, they are just kids, it's not even a love story. The only thing I see is a strong friendship between boys. I know that it might seem so, but why? Why do people keep bringing lgbt to every interaction between kids like these?? Please, leave this movie be just about friendship :c I'm so sick of people shipping every character in the movies even if they weren't meant to be in love in the first place.

@@toastywaffle5210 we arent shipping characters, theres lots of scenes in the movie that imply a romantic relationship rather than a friendship. thats why everybody is upset. and it's like they said in the video, you can have films with innocent childhood crushes. it happens all the time with straight kids in media. whats the difference if they're queer? not every romantic relationship revolves around sexual things.

@@toastywaffle5210 As everyone been saying there are lots of scenes that suggest at least one of the characters to be part of that community and many from said community has related to their story. Which is why I say it was more accidental than purposely made gay as their are so many animated movies about a genuine friendship between two characters that end up being seen as a romance despite again, it never being one in the first place and is just simply a movie about friendship. (Yes, I do believe the creator when he says this wasn't a gay story as it was a very personal story for him, and not really for the audience. Unless he states otherwise, all I see is a movie about a strong friendship between the characters as again two gay characters don't always have to end up being in a relationship) Even if the characters are gay or identify as something different, they don't have to romantically attracted to each other and can still hold a friendship with each other. In the end it is all up to the person watching it.

yessss. especiaally when those two old ladys came out as seamonsters... I'm like.. "nono that's symbolize luca and arnesto being gay and excepted so they came out as gay too"

@@SolomonGriffen I thought it was Luca and Alberto? Not trying to hate

How bout that uncle who was trying to take Luca to the Deepwaters? That was obvious conversion therapy??? Like i was screaming

@@PreppyImpostor it was probably a typo

AWWW your spirited away pfp I got distracted but I agree with you.

@@hinamatsuro1908 it’s also never stated that they were straight? stop telling people what they can and can not do. it’s perfectly valid to ship luca and alberto so let people do what they want. i said that because i myself have felt that jealousy and it wasn’t for friendship.

@yeetus fetus nope it was never stated. it only stated that the relationship was platonic, but that doesn’t have to stop people from shipping them. although the movie isn’t a queer movie, it really does help a lot of queer people w their own experiences and to be themselves.

@yeetus fetus i know it’s not canonically gay but, it’s also not canonically straight either. and that’s my point. we can’t assume everyone is straight. i feel like queer people can be represented by this film with the message it sends even if the message isn’t directed towards specifically queer people. but still, people can have headcanons (think what they want to basically) on the characters sexual orientation even when it’s not confirmed.

@@hinamatsuro1908 lol why are you so pressed

Do you know how many gay movies have the two boys ridding a Vespas in it like that... So many. Can't think of a straight one that does... Just saying.

@@neallanders357 seriously there are soooo many gay (m/m) coming of age movies that have the two boys riding a bicycle or motorcycle or something TOGETHER…. I don’t know where this trope came from but it seems to be a THING

@@ashbaker4422 Its my new favorite thing

Just some heteronormative salt in wound for us.

LITERALLY.

And straight to Disney+ too, all hush hush and not as advertised as Raya or Cruella.

The same with Loki, that (until now at least) is only queer baiting

@@terriblyterry Raya was also super gay tbh

Bro what do gay about it

@@monkeydluffy7735 lol what

most definitely

Yep

Yep

yes

Indeed

Same

Marvel: "we made it bi" Don't know how far Eternals will take it, it's already going to be banned in China so they might just go all the way

ahem **hands money** 🥺🤲

IKR i really wanna wear that kind of shirt and go to disney land

Yessssss

thats not the issue, its that you're putting kids in romantic situations when they're just getting along well

@@memeymeme. i highly doubt you would even care if one of them was a girl

Also the way Alberto said that Luca “got me off the island” at the end of the movie set my metaphor alarms off big time. I see it as a metaphor for both his isolation (he had shut himself off from both societies since his father left) and the closet

I also think Massimo’s arm is a very interesting detail that includes certain disabled people, which means they were clearly thinking about diversity (except for race), and yet they still didn’t make their relationship explicit

Yes because guys are the only ones who are born different

@@Ravenousyouth Uh... I don't follow.

Let the fish boys be gay I'm sorry I laughed at that XD

giulia my queen 😩

this is all very trueeeee

As a Giulia who uses she/they pronouns, I must confirm that this is 100% true

Honestly, Giulia gives me very violent ally vibes

@@devilledeggmuncher *flashbacks to Judit from gsp*

I wouldn’t give disney as a corporatatiob that much credit.

Ya maybe, but at least they made the owl house.

It’s more on a National level. Disney doesnt wanna upset homophobic countries… which is terrible for people in THOSE countries because they won’t have the option to watch it unlike we do.

this!!!!!!

Lucia or Lucy and yuh!

If Luca was Lucia, give her to Giulia

@@ninjaturtlepajamapants8152 I would-

@@lotuzribbon Yeah, I have such a crush on Giulia

omg, this is canon now, I won't accept any other opinions

THANK YOU. I can accept the head cannon because honestly I was unreasonably angry with Pixar for having an Uncle anglerfish when it made no sense and could Have just been an aunt. This is a good solve.

Felix-

😟huh

@@Cloudfrog7 yeah, male angler fish are tiny and attach to females then they become apart of the female, it's really interesting lol

I completely agree

this is exactly what i thought. at first i wanted it to be more explicit but honestly what i want doesn't matter if it helps some gay kid with homophobic parents to come to terms with who they are and not feel like they're alone in this world. this movie is for them.

Yes exactly

The True definition of a bright side. One day I wish for the world to be at a point where that won’t be the case but as it is now I agree. At least this movie can get to the eyes of many queer youth without homophobic gatekeepers. It will be the VERY obvious wink letting them know you are not alone and you are Valid. (Even though they deserve more than some not so subtle subtext)

@@marteenyo Also the fact that even if the romance isn't explicit at least there is no straight romance or allusion to any interest in girls from Luca and Alberto

....

Never felt like that

Lol

...How is that in anyway like that? No thas just no. Gods sake man. How the flying fuck are those two related? They're not in anyway.

A different reading (which doesn't devalue the other readings) To me, a lot of the story feels Jewish. An ancient community where the members might pass or might be revealed having a wary interaction with another community with a tradition of persecution and murder. A movie set in 1950s to 1960s Italy, a country that had death camps up until 1945. Your parents are traumatised and warn you to stay away. Once your parents find out that you're making friends with the enemies you might get packed up and sent to a religious school or Israel.

mood

Good

@@martinel1043 wdym good?

*ugly sobbing*

It hits so hard 😭😭😭😭

LITERALLY JUST FINISHED IT AND IM SOBBING

@@Mimimacklin I AM GONNA BE REWATCHING THIS MOVIE SO MANY TIMES AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH

@@soniaruzafaangosto9162 sammeee 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

Dam not me thinking I’m smart and then you bringing up the points 😂😭

There are people theorizing that Bruno is probably the name of Alberto's dad. And it was never translated to brain either. Brain in Italian is called as 'cervello'. So yeah, Bruno could be the dad.

@@xxstar-bluesxx wait who assumed Bruno meant brain in Italian? 💀

@@dannyblanco8544 What are the points? I think they erase their comment

omg I thought that too!

they’re 14?! i thought they were like 10

@@abeille983 I meant 13, but yeah!! I thought they were 10 as well but nah lmao

i over think terms and try to reflect. it's harder when one might be asexual. some never know untill they learn the word and might be 30.

Same! Had my first crush on a girl when I was twelve

Da Persona Italiana, non sapevo nulla del significato della canzone finale, e mi rincuora decisamente! Credo che i 2 ragazzini provino comunque una forte amicizia prima di tutto, ma crescendo capiranno che potrebbe esserci qualcosa di più profondo (oltre alla loro amicizia che rimane)

what does their handshake and Italian greeting mean?

@@adelina-805 it's a silly handshake that kids do, the phrase literally translates to "pleased to meet you, Girolamo Trombetta"! funny thing, I found out that the name is not the same everywhere here :)

@@confused_raccoon cool! thank you 🙏

It’s SO GAY AND IM LIVING FOR IT!

Aw yay! A nice straight! Thanks for being understanding and nice :)

I'm glad you commented this, it reassures me that it's not just my rainbow coloured glasses xD

I was looking for this comment cause I had the exact same experience. However, I did hear rumours that some people thought it was gay but that it wasn't. I didn't want to see the movie through a lens the creators didn't intend, so I completely shut out that possibility and didn't think about it at all while watching the movie. Thus, I started to get really confused when Alberto became jealous for literally no reason and started acting out. I totally get being jealous of a friend hanging out with others (its worth mentioning I do have jealousy/envy issues in general) but it's usually rooted in something (Ie your friend's friend is mean to you, you don't like them/they don't like you, your friend has been avoiding you, etc). I suppose it was because Luca was talking about how cool Julia was. As a straight person, I have experienced this type of jealousy over very close friends, but not to the extreme extent that Alberto does; it's more of a passing thought. I'm usually able to easily overcome this because I'm overall happy that my friend has other great people in their life that care about them. I have seen/heard of other straight people acting this possessive towards a friend, but it's rather uncommon. Anyway, I can't emphasize to THAT extent with Alberto's jealous (again, despite being a very jealous person) and was confused by that plot thread for days after watching the movie. I remember saying aloud to myself while watching the movie "Why is he THAT jealous?? I don't think the writers of this movie understands human emotion" Really, the only possible way Alberto makes sense to me is if he's gay, it ain't even a gay or European thing, it's very clear. Before watching this video even, I had come to the conclusion that: screw the creators, you don't get to dictate intent when your story has such a clear opposite impact. As an amateur writer (I dnt write much now but I used to), if multiple people see a plot/character differently than intended, I usually at least accept their interpretation is valid, potentially more valid. Taking this as a form of constructive criticism, I usually think to myself that my intent was not clear in my writing and I shall improve on this in the future. ESPECIALLY, if someone interpreted a character as queer, I would let them have it, at the bare minimum I would say something like "I didn't intend this but your perspective adds to the story in new and interesting ways, I love it!" In conclusion to my overly long rant; ALBERTO IS GAY (and Luca is probs bi), F U PIXAR!!!

@@cristlewrite7944 Wtf do you mean why was he so jealous? Maybe because he was alone for years and everyone who he cared about left him so he doesn’t want Luca to leave….? idk just a theory oh wait that’s literally explained in the plot. You know what isn’t anywhere in the plot? A gay romance.

You watch too much tv

The fact that they considered pairing Luca and Alberto makes the "extraness" of the scenes very noticeable. Luca is one of my favorite movies but it kinda bugs that Casarosa kind of played it like the LGBT viewers were just reading into it, as if it happened on accident and we were just conjuring it up. Things like that don't happen without someone making the movie noticing it and bringing it up.

THE TRAIN SCENE IS SO GAY AND I LOVE IT

@@natalia-vs9lg it was romantic and sad❤️🌈🌈

thank you🙏

I'm really confused by "I'm as straight as a parabola, but...". Does it mean you're gay or straight? 😂

It is released during pride month - a corporation is not 1 person. There absolutely must be little gay angels working at disney to have made this film happen.

XD

yes. yes it is

Bruh he was literally defending his friend how is that gsy

@@monkeydluffy7735 It was the way he emphasized “amazing” lmao 😂 I just felt like the “amazing” was exaggerated, and he coulda said “fine” or “okay” but “amazing” was pretty gay. Just my opinion tho, hope I didn’t offend you in any way 😁

@@monkeydluffy7735 It’s cute to interpret it as romantic, I guess. Adds another layer to what he’s saying. Of course the characters aren’t 100% definitively gay, but viewing from that lense is pretty interesting since a lot of moments can parallel gay experiences, whether they were intended to be that way. Essentially, it’s more interesting and enjoyable to some people, and because the story being gay makes sense to them, they want to interpret it that way. Also, because it makes so much sense to them, it can be hard to understand when someone doesn’t share that perspective. Hope that clears it up!

Thank you for explaining this! I do like that it is open ended because struggling with your identity isn't exclusively a queer thing, but I can also see how other people are frustrated with it not being explicitly stated since Disney hasn't ever had an exclusively gay character (no LeFou doesn't count!). It's nice to know that the creators aren't saying it ISN'T gay (like the video claimed the creators are denying the gayness of it).

Don't mean to be insensitive or anything but 500th like let's go

thank you!!!

@@loverrlee I agree! but I don't think the creator of the video came up with that out of nowhere. i read all of the "news" articles about wether the film is queer or not there are, and all of them said that the director claimed it was meant to be a platonic friendship and nothing more. I'm really glad i saw this comment!

@@loverrlee I’m sorry but I don’t even buy that’s it just about struggling with identity or other-ness. The number of scenes that were coded to reflect conversion therapy, “outing”, romance, etc. - things that only apply to queerness - is too many. It’s completely obviously written to reflect a gay coming-of-age story and the fact that this is a debate or denied even remotely astounds me.

That is a goddamn excellent point.

The director of the movie said the movie is about platonic friendships, though he was flattered when all the "Call Me By Your Name" comparisons came out when the trailer dropped. I think you could read it both ways. Like we're desperate for both queer relationships and loving platonic same sex friendships.

@@MayorOfEarth79 No one's desperate for loving platonic same sex friendships in media. They're everywhere. Loving platonic opposite sex friendships in media are far, far less common, and yet I never see people complain about that

which is odd cause they didn't care at all if people watned FinnPoe to be a thing or Stucky like they kinda played with that a little why make a big deal with Luca? Is it cause it's an ANIMATED KID FRIENDLY film? And what MCU SW isn't marketed towards families?

you have a point... but my anger torwards the people denying the gay wont dissapear easily

Same. The year that I came out, my grandma and her girlfriend of like 30 years came out to me and my siblings. I teared up at the two old ladies at the end.

As a trans gay Italian 25 years old..... I did too

as another 20 year old gay italian......i felt the exact same way

Hi. 13 y/o Pansexual Italian... and yes, this is how it's going rn so hey y'all Italian lgbt fellas :D

no

If you looked closely you could see Mickey holding them at gunpoint while they said it

@@ethanlivemere1162 LMAO

@@ethanlivemere1162 Yeah, Exactly! My "head cannon" is that they were being forced to say it _unless they want to be doomed by disney_

@@cococraft9650 Enrico Casarosa: Hey Disney can I make this coming of age movie about two boys who have to come to terms with their identity in fear of not being accepted by society Disney: ... Enrico: They are platonic friends Disney: Oh okay sure Enrico: Thanks *makes extremely queer-coded movie* Everyone online: Hey this is kinda gay Disney: Wait a sec Enrico did you bamboozle us? Enrico: Uh... no? Disney: *cocks gun* You better shut down those rumors son. Daddy wants that China money.

"But our money from China tho... :("

@@ethanlivemere1162 or anywhere else. In the world.

Between this and raya...they are testing the terrain, seeing how gay can they do it without certain sector complaining

@@nessyness5447 yeah I agree, they’re testing the waters

Also how could they now. I’m so sure it would actually be profitable !

breaking news!: "heterosexual doesn't see something that's been carefully coded for LGBTQ+ viewers while simultaneously sailing over straight audiences heads".. literally the whole objective/definition of queercoding, but by all means, hetsplain it to us.

Yeah it's so annoying :/ Personally I don't like the idea of shipping the boys because they're young but I think the gay/bi/general queer viewings of the film are so cute! Just be respectful to others' ideas and don't do anything questionable with minor characters and we can all be in harmony

​@@twiggydoodles625 from everything i've heard, sounds like this film shoots waaaaay past the point of "headcanons", but yea, literally nobody here is asking for a sex scene..

@@girliboi havent watched it myself yet but i did hear sweet things about the boys' dynamic, I'm sure they'd be adorable together in the future :) We queer folks deserve more innocent representation, I'd kill for a wholesome story about a little boy having a crush on his boy best friend EDIT: Also when I included the don't do questionable stuff with minors bit that was in regards to those twitter artists who insist on r/34ing everything :') I don't think it was clear that I also see this movie as a queer allegory, I just personally don't want the kids to date until they're 13/14 😅

OMG yes. my cousins will be among them. I accidentally outed my (passed away) grandfather to the rest my cousins because my mother had told me they knew. Turns out she lied. Anyhow this lead to a long argument over the stacks of Playgirl magazines grandpa left in his trailer. i mean stacks of hundreds of Playgirl magazine piled to the ceiling. And my aunts and uncles were all like... grandpa said he bought those for the articles. (facepalm) to which i replied no one on a fixed income buys a thousand Playgirl magazines for the "articles" you bunch of yahoos. Long story short I no longer speak to that side of the family.

Wait is this supposed to be some sort of joke that I don’t get or are you just being racist

@@evil_zebra4275 its a meme i saw somewhere i forgot where

@@gfox-ck5xx oh ok I thought I was end up ranting about racism for ages

@@evil_zebra4275 yeah dont worry its just one of those things subreddits like r/196 put our as "lol random" humour

@@gfox-ck5xx noice

i wish this was an exaggeration but it 100% was not

Lol. Like, there are so many bad faith accounts in this thread. These people will literally have you in the comments of an Italian love song, trying to gaslight you into not seeing any queerness. (Citta Vouta, the song that plays as the credits start, is literally about a pair of lovers that are separated and how empty the town feels to the one who got left behind.)

@@monstermoo4191 ikr?! That song by Mina is beautiful, when I found out they used that, I finally knew the queer subtext (that isn't the only one btw) was intentional and was overjoyed!

It’s not, the director said they aren’t gay

@@monkeydluffy7735 philosophically… if you only take account for what is shown in the movie, whatever a director says is not _really_ the most important aspect when interpreting any form of media - especially if what they said can be disproven in the media. Queerness is heavily alluded to in the story. The film is more likely to be queer than it is not queer.

@@monkeydluffy7735 the author? He's dead baby.

FR IKR! he wanted to run away with his crush like there's no heterosexual explanation for that

And like not on two Vespas, but sharing ONE. How’s that not romance?

You all are really desperate lol

@@qwertyuiopasdfghjklzxcvbnm3093 If one of the boys were a girl instead, would you also be thinking there was a little romance mixed in? I'm genuinely curious here.

@@Fallen4theFallen2 What do you mean? Like if alberto was a girl or something?

THIS! which is absolutely unacceptable to begin with so I hope this kind of "totally not gay" gay movies can be a nudge in the right direction like they could've leant in harder with the romance even if they're so young (like with a peck on the cheek!) but it's still very clearly gay imo and you can't change my mind, so I don't even care if they don't kiss before the train leaves (holding hands till they can't anymore was enough to bring out the tears)

Why?

i may be looking too deep but something else to think of is how surface fish can barely survive and don’t belong in the deep water… hmm sounds familiar

Same

ABSOLUTELY

Meh you're exaggerating

YES THAT WAS SO INTENTIONAL I CAUGHT THAT TOO AND I AGREE

The director did not intend to make this even a little gay, its a story about friendship. Argue me all you want, but you can't change the facts.

I SAW THEM AND WENT "Ooh lesbians!" IT WAS SO OBVIOUS SIHWUIDJHSKEEGKWHFK

Golden Ninja one thing about art, its subjective, and you can't force your opinion on other peoples comments, you got big balls then make your own comment and see what people think of it instead of leeching off david's comment.

@@goldenninja9053 SILENZIO BRUNO

shit you right

Stop calling me out

I heard something interesting in James Somerton’s video about Yuri on Ice. He said that Western media and its audiences tend to require way more explicit plot beats than other cultures, due to some really complicated reasons about oral traditions in different parts of the world. So a piece of media can be purposely sending certain messages or have canonical gay relationships without there actually being a kiss scene. It’s kind of a comforting lens to view this movie from. The real message is in the visual storytelling (and the author is dead!!).

@@rachelgray6790 I've seen that video and I love it! It gets my point across perfectly.

So you’re saying it’s a “gay movie” because the main character isn’t accepted by his peers, even tho it’s because he’s a FISH MONSTER and not because he’s gay

@@The_Holy_Wooomy metaphors? also once again you could view the movie in three different ways because there’s not a specific romantic plot, simply because that’s not the intention. you could take it as luca and alberto having a crush on giulia (apparently that’s how her name is spelled, didn’t know that), alberto being the only one with a crush on giulia and being jealous because luca is spending more time with her than he gets to with her, or as luca having/not having a crush on giulia while alberto has a crush on luca. once again, technically that’s 4 since it’s two different possibilities in the last one, but you can interpret it as literal or metaphorical, and as for romance there’s 4+ ways to interpret it since it’s not really intended to be about romance.

I wish more movies were like that to be honest. I'm all for more representation but I'm so sick of the "Guys, this film has a [insert underused character type] in it! Tell everyone to go see it!!" Because when that becomes the focus, it just feels like begging for attention and half the time said minority or rare pair isn't even a main character or its only one scene. When you don't advertise it or try to make a statement, leave the film up for people to take it in as is, you can expand stories to just be stories without so much focus on how they treated the token character(s). And also doing it this way means kids who may never get to see it because of conservative patents up in arms about them being brainwashed by "the gay agenda" can enjoy an actually good movie and decide for themselves what it means to them. Maybe it's a gay story, maybe it's a coming of age with two boys leaving home to try to find themselves, maybe it's a country boy who wants to pursue and education if he could afford it, maybe it's just a cute fish out of water experience as two fish have slice of life misadventures on land. My only concern is now that several youtubers have brought it up, it won't take long for the media to go "We were lied to! Boycott this movie!!" And ruin the fun for everyone.

going to be a doozy to show aSEXUAL children, not so hard to show aromantic children