Luca Review: Trapped in Allegory 

The movie was mediocre

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an interesting video however, it was kinda foolhardy, that is if we the audience are to completely ignore the people that actually made the movie. The Luca Director Enrico Casarosa - whose youth and childhood friendship with another Alberto inspired the story - has insisted that the movie is not romantic in any way. In an interview with Screen Rant, in response to a question about queer people being able to see themselves in the story, Casarosa said "We were quite aware that we wanted to talk about that time in life before boyfriends and girlfriends. So there's an innocence and a focus on the friendship side. I feel like the story would be a little different in that it's slightly more complicated when romance comes in."

@@fupoflapo2386 tbh the only reason I still watch them is for the beautiful animation and the simple easy watch storytelling.

@@jordanthomas4379 fair enough

And the thing is, she was also protecting Alberto when she found out. If you pay attention to how she says "Stay back" it wasn't because she was afraid, but because she was trying to scare him away in case someone came in like Ercole who could've killed Alberto. When Luca reacted, that was the point she realizes that Luca has always known Alberto is a sea monster or Luca himself IS one.

@@Ezzylryb that's a good point honestly that's probably the main reason Julia is my favourite character

@@Ezzylryb that's a good point honestly that's probably the main reason Julia is my favourite character

Giulia*

@@noratheelk3729 excuse me-

I felt the same sorta way about the story. It’s simple in structure and takes time to show scenery so you can get immersed in the setting. I think it’s a great approach and worked well for the movie!

The movies town name is based on the name of a ghibli movie

@@baseballguy3741 Porto Rosso does sound a lot like Porco Rosso, can’t believe I didn’t catch that

@@stevengoomba6490 and both set in Italy

@@gum3335 All that was lacking was a bizarre flying machine. And no, Leonardo's contraptions do not count. Those are normal. I mean a Dragonfly levels of weird to be a Ghibli model.

Maybe just people becoming more grumpy. *Inside out* was the last great pixar movie, from me. My current opinion on Pixar is just "meh", and my reaction to a new pixar movie is the same as to a new fast and furious.

Cars 2 in the corner

"theyve never made a movie i didnt enjoy" i believe this is what you call a complete shill

Brave, Cars 2, and The Good Dinosaur are the only Pixar movies I did not think were good

what they mean is that the more epic movies are what they want, they want them to keep getting better and better and thats just not possible, movies arent a thing where each one is better than the last they are all good in their own way

Exactly!

Yeah, i liked that

Why did she react that way with Alberto though?

@@qwertyuiopasdfghjklzxcvbnm3093 I think she was just surprised, I mean, I don't think she had ever seen any sea folk before in her life lol

@@JuicyJuice-0 I mean she did scream, don't hurt us! and so on... And that's why Luca also played along.

Hey, we Italians love the simple things. You give us pasta and we are your friends for life

@@veronicapiccinini7956 and we also hate gays

@@yoggothemadgod6196 *looks at the winner of eurovision 2021* Are you sure about that? Isnt gay marriage legal there?

@@yoggothemadgod6196 not really...

@@blitszina2570 it's more like civil partnerships, but we're working on it

Yet people ship these KID characters...

@@cahasaper if it’s not sexual there’s actually nothing wrong with shipping character above the age of 12 or so with other characters of close or same age. Shipping is not inherently sexual childhood crushes exist. And by your logic any movie or show that shows any form of romantic relationship between young characters is somehow perverted, right?

@@kenetabansi5016 I'm not saying you're in the wrong here, just that this movie (in my perspective) didn't show any romantic relationships at all.

@@cahasaper but that’s not what your comment implies. It’s okay to not ship them or whatever but it’s also okay if you do if their not hurting anyone let people do what they want. People forcing their perspective of friendship is just the same as people forcing their ships down everyone’s throat. And your comment specifically talked about shipping kid characters as if people that do that our somehow perverted for doing so. As if more than half of the media we consume as a society doesn’t feature teenage protagonists.

@@cahasaper it’s just that your comment CAPITALIZES “kid”, which implies that you don’t support ships including children. In my opinion (which relates to kene’s opinion), as long as a child ship isn’t sexualized, you don’t go crazy over the ship (which can be said about any ship), and/or is implied _canonically_ that one or both kids like each other, then I’m okay with it. If you ask me, the only ship I have that involves kids under the age of 13 is Tweek and Craig from South Park. I mean, even before they got together they were my favorite characters. I didn’t even know people shipped them until the episode where they got together! I think they’re dynamic plus both being my favorite characters just made me shipping them not surprising.

Yep pretty much

it's in the title, you clicked on the video, how did you misspell Luca?

Luka Doncić?

@@dortdiplo Luka when he exits first round:

Mispelled luca like a true american

EXACTLY

Yes. Or at least I would. It's a movie about friendship - having romance, especially with little kids would be out of place.

@@ocelotlesbian I think it’s just that people don’t like when people say two kids are gay just cause they hug or something

@@Sheeshy_bucket I thought Luca and Alberto are brothers, which is odd for those who assume they are shipping the two.

@@agentlinrov1474 nah they ain’t related but I see them as spirit bros more than I see them as lovers

Except princess mononoke, kaguya, spirit away, whisker away sort of

Yeah!

@@maadtee6281 whisker away ?? I thought that wasn’t ghibli

@@tarattran wait what always thought it was ghibli seems like a love letter to ghibli

@@maadtee6281 it's not a ghibli film, maybe you're thinking of The Cat Returns?

Is about where the Vespa can take them

How can they have memories of something they only had for a few hours? (Idk if maybe I wasn’t paying close enough attention but after they won it it looked like they only had it for that night and then they sold it the next day cause they decided they didn’t need it anymore). I’m kidding lol, I get what you mean don’t come after me

And what the Vespa would do for them. They think the Vespa would give them freedom, which is all they really want.

The real Vespa is the friends we made along the way

@@lihuenbartoli7895 DAMMIT you got me. I thought of that last night and wanted to post it. You beat me to it XD

I'm italian and i live in the ligurian riviera and i totally agree with you

I totally agree but I'll need a glossary of references at this point because they're all flying over my head

You are american not italian pls stop whit the bs

@@someflipnotes87 why can't I be both?

@@biagioiovine6991 cause if u lived in American ur whole life that just makes you American. Its simple.

Same! It gave me some Studio Ghibli vibe!

The people shipping them made me not watch Disney ever they are only 14! And people are making dirty videos about them:/ if only if comments never existed

@@nangselilyn747 If only comments never existed? If only you didn't scroll to see them and write one yourself

@@weeebie What?

Some people dislike this movie because it wasn't a gay romance. Others dislike this movie because of all the people that wanted this to be a gay movie. Some don't want their children to be learning about sex and sexual orientation at an early age because of reviews or viewers who might rave about gay or anti-gay. Basically this movie may be good, but the aura surrounding a certain viewer base makes the main viewer pull (parents and kids) not want to bother with the drama. Atleast that's what I get from it.

@@bombomos yes i agree exactly sigh*

@@bombomos As much as representation matters I think that a movie that is about kids and targeted audience is kids, we should hold of on any romantic tension or feelings. One of my favorite things about being younger is that I played with everyone and we didn't have to think about relationships or crushed but just having fun. I think this movie's central theme is friendship and I think it's beautiful enough as that.

The haters gotta admit tho, its still a good movie

@@youdonthavehumor2545 exactly

yup

I dont know why but this comment made me bust out laughing

Best CG Ghibli movie

That’s exactly what I thought lol

It's true and you should say it

And that collaboration with Aardman Animations is just perfect 👌

Ye I always love it when visual mediums pair the narrative dark point with actual darkness it really helps put me in the mood

You mean when Luca betrayed Alberto?

@Thomas Ziagos Nopee, it's literally just a betrayal scene that's in almost every Pixar movie

@Thomas Ziagos idk why but “beach divorce” just sounds so funny to me- XDD

@Thomas Ziagos I’m so calling it the beach divorce from now on

I mean it could be portrayed as either or, I don’t think there’s nothing wrong with that.

@@rigobertoalcantar9519 exactly

I have no issues with the characters being gay, it just didn't feel that way when I watched the film. Plus I think the director said that the film was just about childhood friendships, not in anyway a romance.

They are more brothers than gay.

As long as it's a headcanon, it's okay to say it's gay, there are so many queer people who related to a lot of stuff in the movie, it's up to interpretation. I don't like people telling others that it's gay and it's a fact or others saying it's NOT gay and it's a fact. If it's gay for you or if it's just friendship for you because you relate then it's okay. If you wanna discuss that's also fine but at the end of the day the things you felt about this movie are valid and no one should tell you what to think about it.

And that's very interesting to know It's so amazing how many different countries have their own stories and versions of mythical creatures are, it just shows the many possibilities to create a story/movie

Yeah ther's also this Australian show cald H20 that I watched a bunch of years ago about a three mermaids and the shenanigans they get into in town. They practically have the same shape shifting thing as in Luka they just have a couple of seconds before they turn when they get wet

@@azulBjort_1406 I love H2O 💖. I couldn't get enough of it 😁 But I absolutely HATE Mako mermaids. It was ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE😑😠

@@anez1266 I actually watched Mako mermaids first and then washed the OG show. I'd say I found both of the shows unique in their one way but I can see how a fan from the H20 wouldn't like the newer one, I'd say H20 was more grounded in it's premise while Mako Kane saving the world plots and magic water dragons and stuff like that✌️

I love how Disney/Pixar base movies off of a specific countries cultures and beliefs. We saw it in Moana, Raya, and now Luca which is so cool

@@deninpaul7509 don't ya even dare make yaoi out of them

Ong

As someone who is asexual, it is such a breather, I never ever watch movies cuz of how uncomfortable I get when they have relationships, especially if there are sex scenes, but this movie really had an impact on me and I’m so glad this exists cuz it really gives me peace of mind

@@pastelbee8125 ???

@@pastelbee8125 same. I only feel comfortable when I'm sexing in the mirror to myself.

People just want it to be gay, they want more gay people thats why they want this movie gay, and u wanna know how they plan on getting more, showing this to kids and kids thinking "if he did it i should follow" because kids dont yet know not to be a follower and then thats how the child ends up as my nigga blueface said "just another fatherless child"

@@Memerproductions I just love how afraid homophobes are of LGBT representation. Children seeing LGBT rep isn't going to make them gay but it will help them accept them more in society (which is what the gays want, not very sinister in my opinion) Why are so *afraid* of gay people.

They dont like it because maybe a slice of life isn’t there thing

@@Memerproductions just say you're homophobic and move on

@@Memerproductions and watching gay people doesnt make you gay

Roman Empire be like:

@@houselemuellan8756 PFFFT YES

Portorosso is actually a fiction name given to the town in the movie. That town is actually inspired to the real life coastal towns near Geneva, they are called Cinque Terre.

@@imchink Yep lmao I know that😂

@@little.prince Was just an observation..

No cares if you gay you not special

@@zenithlyncadet8984 you obviously care lol. They brought up the fact they're LGBT because the movie heavily resonates with a lot of our experiences, so it shapes their perception of the movie and makes us more attached to us. Someone breathes the word gay and y'all get mad I stg

@@trashgoblin1182 1: You can’t breathe a word 2: Yeah and I shared an experience with spongebob when he was promoted to manager in the spongebob movie and remembered that time I was given the “Riddler” title in 3rd grade

@@dademigod127 “breathing” a word is literally an expression- obviously you can’t breathe a word. i don’t understand why you’re so frustrated that people are talking about how they specifically relate to and interpret the movie? representation is obviously gonna be important to marginalized groups that typically don’t get to see themselves in media. grow up and move on.

Same, I'm gay and this film resonated with me and my experiences heavily. I'll cherish it forever! ❤️

wholesome stuff at its finest.

that’s so sweet thanks for sharing

Awwww that's sweet

dude this is so similar to my experience! unfortunately my friend and i aren’t really in touch anymore but it made me so happy and nostalgic to read this haha

@@novatague860 Aww, thanks!

Ok I’m not the only one who thought that

This. Yes.

same!! especially during that first scene where Alberto pulls Luca to the surface and goes, "Isn't it great!" or whatever. The smile and the eyes just screamed Wallace and Gromit to me

I always hated wallace and gromit as a kid, it was just creepy to me but the art of this movie did remind me of wallace and gromit but a cuter version i guess, idk how to explain it

Agreed I wish people can understand people can be friends without it always being a relationship.

Yeah mate, i didnt see the romantic side, they are just two friends going about their life.

People see what they wanna se. Personally i don't see the point of needing an aspect of my person, being the focus of a film.

Not to mention they are little kids. They had plenty of chances to pair up Luca and Julia but they didn’t because they are young kids.

Savary theyre 14, not so little and that doesnt stop to tell a story of discovering themself as a queer person. But theres ofc no need in romantic plot

The Idea and the story does sound like Roald Dahl wrote it. Roald Dahl definitely would've done some crazy stuff to the story though. Just make it a "child's imagination".

Except Roal Dahl is NOT a fan of school because of his “not so cool” experiences

@@veronicapiccinini7956 you're right!

@@veronicapiccinini7956 he got beaten *a lot* in school iirc

@@surprisedlobsta8543 they say “spare the rod, spoil the child”. But that is a complete bullpoo. They need discipline, of course, but not with a self contradictory method

ye pixar fans take such good movies for granted that average movies seem like garbage to them (including me)

Well if you mean by movies yeah probably. But shows? Luz Noceda is a prime example of a LGBT main character in The Owl House. Also Star Butterfly but she was not as strongly shown with that.

@@missmeggie_4 whose show was attempted to be shortened and ended with the third season xD

@@missmeggie_4 star seemed straight to me

@@Sheeshy_bucket i always thought Star was straight

@@OReily08080 I mean she spent half the whole series simping over him 😂

Luca and Alberto's true forms are adorable.

But it's similar to modern animated TV shows

I've read a q&a made with the guy that made the film (I don't remember the name) on the weekly Mikey mouse comics here in Italy and he confirmed that it was also some kind of allegory to adolescence and getting to know yourself

@Chtere Tree Same. It was only after watching some reviews that I realized that it's something many others saw, too

I definitely think this was intentional, there are so many tropes in there that people who grew up watching/reading queer "coming of age" movies and books in a desparate attempt to find representation would definitely recognize, or maybe even would have related to. I know I definitely did, honestly this movie made me so happy and nostalgic

I feel like movies shouldn't be judged by comparing it to other movies but by one's own experiences. The movie really resonated with me as well to the point that I cried 3 times during the movie and quickly became a very special film to me. Of course, having your own opinions is completely fine, but seeing people straight up hate on this film just because "it isn't as good as other pixar films" really does not sit well with me.

@@JuicyJuice-0 It just shows how people sometimes can be pretty obnoxious. Not everything has to be about space alien nightmares who come to destroy de multiverse and this little hero had to overcome an epic ordeal and get the ancient dragon blood to save it. It's just as SC said. This is not for everyone.

Alberto's story was so good. My favorite line in the whole movie is when he says, "find out for me will you?" It brought me to tears too

I'm gonna be honest, I'm in the exact same position as you once were. This film was a wake up call for me. With the exception of neglect, I felt the "putting on an act" thing you described. Seriously doubting my friendships and hope to get of the island too someday.

@@tavusgus7239 if you want we could have a chat someday. Maybe I could help you out.

Yea I agree, I think they put him in because they needed an enemy for the action scene and they weren’t gonna make Giulia’s dad the villain. He was just weird.

he looked like a teenage boy to me, his patchy little mustache sold me on it, plus he registered in the race as 16 the last year so he’s either 17 or was telling the truth when he said he actually was 16 now, so the age just makes sense for me

i agree he wasnt developed as nicely as the other characters, but tbh he was a simple villain for a simple story. he's just some snotty teen with too much money, as its shown he's heavily greedy for that stuff , other then that, he just takes advantage of kids and well that's not really unrealistic its just kinda bland. but I prefer him over every new villain being redeemed at the end of every Disney movie or being a evil cloud of mist ngl.

He is a grown man. If I remember correctly the organizer said something of the line of "You said you were 16 for the past years".

@@baxonatordragofly3194 they said “last year”, not past years, so i’m pretty positive he’s a teen, just an older one

That is exactly how I feel about it

That's how I feel it too. But I thing their relationship varies depending on who is watching it. Me, as a gay dude, too, see the, not romantic, but at least the bond between Alberto and Luca. But at the same time, they are just kids, and apparently this is Luca's first friend? 😅

@Inés Lázaro De la Garza actually Luca is 13 and Alberto is 14 so yeah, not that young really

They're not too young to have romantic feelings, but they definitely wouldn't understand them and confused them as friendship. Why they became fast friends

That’s probably projection and is probably why people in the lgbtq community thought the movie was a gay allegory. Because it most closely describe their feelings and how they were treated. Just like the movie could have resonated with Jewish folk and their treatment. I’m pan my self and i didn’t really project that they were gay because I wasn’t treated like they were and was fully accepted so I was able to make both platonic and Romantic relationships and better differentiate the two. So all I saw were three kids friendship and sea monsters. And ye luka and Alberto were at the age to know if they liked each other romantically since they’re like 12-14.

I love that in Ponyo they have to kiss to save the world or something

@Swag Monke ok fammi un esempio fra

I disagree on that brothers part. Me and my brother are very close and act similarly to how Luca and Alberto act. We even make jokes about how similar we are to Luca and Alberto lol. I'm not sure if this kind of relationship is uncommon for most people but it's not hard to see that this can easily be a platonic "brothers" type relationship, at least in my opinion

@@logic6615 r u italian tho? Bc the level of toxic masculinity here is so high that it literally squashes every ounce of positive portrayal of a male relationship (both brotherly, platonic or romantic) Of course there are different cases and there's always exceptions, I'm just saying it's very unlikely to find it in an old fashioned harbouring town

@@RotheAlien I don't really need to be italian to relate to a character. I'm just saying that some brothers are as close as Luca and Alberto are

@@logic6615 ok, and I never said you couldn't relate to the character?? If you read my comment again I say that HERE (as in italy since I later say I'm italian) no brothers act like that (speaking from experience) so idk, learn to read? No one ever said that you can't relate to them, my statement was to say that people that use the excuse that "you cant ship them they are like brothers" are dumb ppl because 1 they aren't and 2 who cares, their bond can be interpreted in different ways by different people and it shouldn't invalidate anyone's opinion My comment was centred about the ship part of the discussion, not that you couldn't relate with your brother to the characters, like I said you can read anything you want into it, but using thar as a way to discourage people from shipping the characters seems dumb to me So you really just chose to focus on the dumbest thing just because lmao

Or the actual millenia that took humans to realize, and some of them still haven't.

While I get not everyone can afford or don't want Disney+ or can't or don't want to go to the cinema in general for obvious reason but you are missing out ALOT by not watching the film!

Not only a feel but a glimpse if I'd be even interested in the plot and message/moral of the story.

lol 😂

STOOP

Stupid animation

and the fact that it's set in the 50s/60s when that would be pretty common too 😕

I couldn't stop crying during that part. The amount of flashbacks I got.

@@shockingheaven Same. I mentioned in a previous comment, a big reason most people don't see lgbt metaphors or coding in this movie, is because they never had to go through it. The pain and fear and isolation.

I still think it was more a racism alegory, like dissing what you are and friends just to be accepted in another place

@@thomaz3235 I think it is generally up for viewer interpretation because there are many examples of bigotry in history it can be applied to, sadly

Maybe you already know, but your surname means that your ancestors came from the city of Genova (today capital of Liguria, one of the twenty regions of Italy). In the past Genova was one of the most powerful maritime republic, so it's very likely your ancestors settle down in an other place and locals referred to them like "oh yeah, the guys from Genova!" until it becames a real surname

@ReDiAnima There are a lot of people around the globe which are sons and daughters of the italian diaspora. A lot of them have full italian names, but ignore a lot of things about Italy. Isabella could be one of them (Genova it's a big city, which italian could be surprised to found out it's existence?) that's why I wrote this comment

Autism maybe, self absorbed dream is common

Wait for real? Man, I would love to see a movie based off that comic

Nimona good.

Ok I know you typed this a year ago and my dumb ahh is super late but I think the reason Alberto was so possessive over Luca was because of abandonment issues, his dad decided he was old enough to be by himself and just dipped and Alberto was by himself for years. So when he met luca and made a friend he didn’t wanna lose luca and Giulia was kinda getting in the way of their friendship

That’s so true , this needs to happen with lgbt characters so badly because all I see are romantic stories between same gender lgbt characters

@@samplingmastersxlr8660 Well there’s a movie just liked that called Freak Show

@@trialerrorsharer9398 I meant in animation

@@samplingmastersxlr8660 well the original comment nor does your comment specify animation.

@@trialerrorsharer9398 yeah I know but the topic was for an animated movie so yeah

it's trenette, not spaghetti

@@margheritadellavalletheyel6775 “Did YoU KnOw napoleon WaS aVeRGe Hight fOr ThE TiMe”

PASGHETTI -Mussolini

The boys eat sea food. *CANNIBALISM* 😱

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exactly! When I was 13 I always fantasied about running away with my friends or partner (and I kinda still do but for kinda different reasons now haha) Also she scene where Luca pretends he didn't knew Alberto was a sea monster, even tho he is one himself too, really reminded me of the time one of my old fiend groups found out about my sexuality. And the one other queer person who already knew about it, pretended to be shocked and homophobic. I now realise she was dealing with a lot of internalized homophobia back then, and I hope she's ok now.

Suffering Trauma Because Of Our Homophobic Parents Squad!

I can't tell if that's sarcasm lmao

You do realize they are mostly like brothers

I agree, I just genuinely love the movie, I don't mind about any of those two opinions, both are great, they can be close friends or even something more. :D

People don’t see the close friendships in western media because they take it for granted. There have literally always been close friendships, whether they are same sex or opposite sex, in western film. In the Cars movies: Lightning McQueen and Mater, Lightning McQueen and Cruz Ramirez. In the Toy Story movies: Buzz Lightyear and Woody, Buzz Lightyear and Jessie, Woody and Jessie, Hamm and Mr. Potato Head, literally every character in Toy Story but Mr and Mrs. Potato Head, Woody and Bo Peep. Lion King: Timon and Pumbaa, Timon and Simba, Pumbaa and Simba, Timon and Nala, Pumbaa and Nala. Aladdin: Genie and Aladdin, Genie and Jasmine. I just named a dozen same sex and opposite sex friendships with EASE. All of them off the top of my head. Western media will never stop making friendships, whether opposite sex or same sex, so don’t get your panties twisted if they start making queer characters with same sex love interests. If you paid attention to the friendships you have always gotten in film, you would stop looking like a fool. I’m not talking to anyone specifically in this comment, I’m talking to EVERYONE who gets all bitchy about “blah blah blah there’s no more friendships in movies anymore 😢😢😢”

@@elliefuller3667 It's not just ride or die friendships existing though (I don't think any body's saying friendships don't exist at all, but my bad if that's what it sounded like), it's how they are often interpreted and coded, which effects how they're portrayed. There is a stigma that those kind of relationships (especially those that have a lot of physical contact or deep emotional moments) are often associated as being somewhat romantic, and that's something that comes down to culture and public opinion, which in turn translates into how it's portrayed in media. E.g two single guys share a look? They must be gay, two girls dance together, lesbians. One character comforts another during a low point? They MUST be into them! This even happens irl too and is the whole reason "no homo" is even a saying, because people are convinced being nice to somebody of the same sex will make them look gay. It's not as common as it used to be, but it's still there. Also an interesting point about a lot of those; many of those characters have at least one person in the pair be canonically in a relationship (or heavily coded as such, like with McQueen and Sally), so people would go "oh yeah, they must be friends because so and so is already with somebody"... or they ARE romantic (I may be missing something here but I'm pretty sure Jessie and Buzz and Woody and Bo are frequently perceived as being romantic) and one of those who doesn't (Timon and Pumbaa) are often perceived as being gay because it's two men living together raising a kid. That doesn't mean they are or aren't (much like with Luca, I'd be cool with either romance or found family, as both work), but it's an example of people assuming closeness=romance. This can go the other way though with people outright denying canon relationships because they're not explicit enough (I saw people denying Amity from The Owl House was into Luz until the most recent episode) so I think the main takeaway is public opinion ruins every kind of relationship across the board and that's why we can't have nice things.

@@AllyGatorAnimator I just think people take the friendships in movies for granted because we are starting to get a TINY, TINY sliver of representation for same sex relationships. If you disagree, I’m gonna assume you take them for granted as well. See, people that have an issue with same sex relationships in cinema often use the excuse, “we never see two guys/two girls just being friends! Why are you guys taking over?” The reason it looks like we are “taking over” is because the world is so goddamn heteronormative that when these people see anything non-hetero, they think it’s taking over. That’s the kind of person that really pisses me off.

@@elliefuller3667 Oh don't worry, I'm with you on how insufferable it is hearing people panic about the "gay agenda" whenever they see anything LGBT+. As somebody who wants that representation for myself and others, it's frustrating (to say the least, I'm keeping it PG here) and is part of the reason why so many LGBT relationships in media (especially children's media) is so vague or has to be fought for tooth and nail. It shouldn't be that way. It's those same people though (the ones who complain) that are so insecure that they then make platonic relationships be ruined by immediately being perceived as romantic too. You know the ones; the people who think two guys hugging warrants a bunch of gay jokes, or somebody who doesn't want friends of the opposite sex because they think they'll hit on them. The sad fact is, those attitudes then translate into the media by keeping LGBT characters in the background or having straight relationships be very blatant to stop those people freaking out about what a cartoon character gets up to. Literally all affection gets ruined because people are scared of it and what it might mean. It's pretty sad. (I'm not talking about shipping btw, fans can rock on with that). It's why we have to show platonic AND romantic relationships (oh and found family too, because I feel that's a whole other category), in a positive and equally clear light to avoid people carrying these attitudes forward. Modern shows are definitely doing that a lot more (by that I mean bringing it into the foreground more regularly) and I'm all here for it. Give me my lesbian dates, give me my two bros living ride or die for each other, give me my bisexual gal with her huge family of adopted siblings. Rock on with it all. TL;DR hell yeah that's terrible, so we should show more of everything so that attitude swiftly dies.

So the train scene, grandma saying her speech about acceptance, Luca pretending to be against sea monsters, Luca outing himself as a sea monster to save Alberto, I’ve got 4, what were the others?

@@mujiescomedy279 When he said his dad died(Alberto) When the girls dad was accepting When the girl "accepted" Luca When they tried to kill them. When Luca did the thing the mom did and said love you. When Alberto gave up VESPA for lucas ticket When the Grandma made a acceptance speech The train leaving and luca crying Luca acting like be didn't know Alberto was a sea monster And when luca revealed himself. Nine😉 times

i dont understand how yall cry when watching movies/tv shows.. wish i could, but i cant.

@@IamTealeaf this is the only movie I cried at minus in the nights. I think it's just the relating to it. I'm porterican, dominican, Columbian, i love music and that's why in the hights was soooo perfect for me. Luca, I just... The message of acceptance and friendship got me hard... I cried like a fucking dog.

@@MalarikFilms I can’t count 😛 but aw man, when Alberto just looked at the Vespa and smiled knowing he would sell it with no regrets 🥺 I forgot about that

Yeah! Like, speaking from personal experience, it can make a world of a difference being able to see yourself in a piece of media, I didn’t get that until I was already deep into my internalized homophobia and transphobia, even having a film like this one where nothing is explicitly told would’ve spared me years of unlearning and healing from all of that. Imagine if it was actually shown, imagine how many lives it would change!

You will never get that as long as China continues to have such a huge movie watching population. Ambiguously vague or ridiculous stereotype are the only consumer friendly types of gay allowed.

@@NeverEvenThere Yeah. It sucks that Disney has to worry about how it will profit across the world, because it would be huge for young people to see themselves in a film like this. I get that they can’t do it yet, but hopefully someday in the near future!

@@NeverEvenThere We'll never get that even if China just stops watching movies for the rest of time. .Disney censors and removes depictions of LGBT+ people even on services not actually available in China like Love, Victor on Disney+.

@@NeverEvenThere lies ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-acEgpuwGu-I.html

completely agree. Everybody seems to adore Soul. To me it was nice, but I really felt like it was trying to much and the ending was disappointing

Soul wasn’t memorable for me. It had a nice intention, but I literally cannot remember the ending. And of course it doesn’t have to be showstopping to be great, like the whole point of this video, but I enjoyed Luca way more than Soul

This movie is perfect because in his spontaneous and human way to be (as we, italians, tend to be) it's able to fully communicate, be universal and enjoyable, despite any language or culture barrier. 😉

Homiesexual

Bruh

@@sarahbarnes9648 Exactly

@@sarahbarnes9648 exactly

They aren’t in a romantic relationship. They are like brothers

If anything I'm more upset Pixar films keep being made into streaming fodder. These deserve to be on the big screen, not just Disney films.

Kids should NOT be worrying about sexuality, if you're still a kid, you should not be making that choice yet

No stop😂

What's it called?

@@itz_felix8863 “ Funiculi Funiculi

@@lesliemorganking3283 Thank you!

@@itz_felix8863 you’re welcome.

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I saw it more as a racism alegory but i can see why, i also saw them more as friends and i also have a friend like that, meet hem when i was young and we are good friends to this day and no we do not have an attraction to each other

@@thomaz3235 I feel like racism doesn’t really quite work with the fact that being sea monsters is something that can be hidden by characters in the film. In real life you can try to hide your sexual identity because you are scared that society won’t accept you but you cannot hide your race.

@@thomaz3235 I feel like it's better to compare it to lgbtq+ identities and homophobia since POC can't hide their identities. As a poc, I'd say it's more fitting to compare it to LGBTQ+ issues and queerness because of not only the lines spoken in the film, but the active world-building and themes. And you don't have to have an attraction to someone for another dynamic similar to it to work romantically.

I actually see it as the opposite. Him n alberto are like brothers & him n giullia are very close that could grow into lovers

we must hope that no every new pixar movie is a d+ original.