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Unravelling Autistic Shutdowns 

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@alejandro-314
@alejandro-314 4 месяца назад
Sometimes I feel I need to cry but can't cry, sometimes I want to scream but I can't scream. It's like I'm scare of emitting sounds.
@Figuringitout7
@Figuringitout7 4 месяца назад
I scream inside myself. Often.
@Niko_lai-78
@Niko_lai-78 4 месяца назад
Somebody else understands! I've been feeling the same for many years now, I feel like I wanna cry but I can't 😭
@joycebrewer4150
@joycebrewer4150 3 месяца назад
😢 Especially when I was in public school, I would get so stressed, and overwhelmed, I would do what I called (inside my thoughts) a silent scream. I did everything to perfectly mime doing a blood-curdling scream, but would at same time so tighten my throat muscles, no sound escaped me. It seemed to help, slightly. Of course, I always tried to do this out of sight of other people!! It would be too embarrassing otherwise.
@MatStevens
@MatStevens Месяц назад
Yeah, I cry when I don't want to and then can't cry when I actually need to. My brain is bullshit.
@Sommyie
@Sommyie 18 дней назад
I find myself curled up in a ball or close to when it's bad.
@rawnchydeard4669
@rawnchydeard4669 4 месяца назад
You know how many jobs I’ve lost because of shutdowns? All of them. Thank you for highlighting this issue.
@belindathomas7430
@belindathomas7430 4 месяца назад
Same for me - all except one.
@BiggestBigBoy
@BiggestBigBoy 4 месяца назад
It's funny, because it's true. It's not funny, because it's true.
@BiggestBigBoy
@BiggestBigBoy 4 месяца назад
Yep, that one was a meltdown.
@wonderlandeldemonanastasi
@wonderlandeldemonanastasi 4 месяца назад
I hope, if working is good for y'all, that y'all find jobs wherein your autistic traits and needs (your very self!) are accepted. The other week at work I had a shutdown (realized it was a shutdown after the fact) due to others liking the music loud in the kitchen and me having to tell them to turn it down repeatedly despite my earplugs. It was exhausting, because they would always eventually turn it back up, if not immediately after the song I said something during ended. Anyway, I went nonverbal, and I wrote an explanation of why I need it quiet down on receipt paper -- because it is an irritation, and irritations accumulate into meltdowns, and I am constantly doing my best to minimize irritations to lessen the chance of having a meltdown so my work doesn't suffer or I need to go home, and I gave the papers to my kitchen manager, also explaining thereon that I was nonverbal at the moment, and she imparted the information to the general manager who had the music shut off entirely. It was so bueno. I later had a meltdown because that whole thing left me one irritant away from meltdown, and I went and rocked and stimmed outside, then came back in. After that, there was only too-loud music for a few nights, but then it became consistently quiet enough to where my mind is peaceful, and has been since. People at my job understand that I am autistic and have sensory needs, and have my own system of working that is not to be altered lest I get confused, but with the loud music factor gone I can more easily figure mix-arounds out on the fly -- I put some sandwiches in the wrong order last night, haha! It wasn't very busy last night which was another factor in this not being a dire circumstance, the mix-around. Anyway, my workplace is good. It is possible to have good and accommodating workplaces.
@danielimmortuos666
@danielimmortuos666 3 месяца назад
Same for me
@sarahfowler9741
@sarahfowler9741 4 месяца назад
Thank you for this! This video is a much better description of shut down than I've seen before, and makes me realize how often I do shut down. I think I probably shut down 10 times more often than melt down, which is more "socially acceptable," but also means I'm often in severe emotional/mental distress and no one notices.
@a_1973_love_yourself
@a_1973_love_yourself 4 месяца назад
That is awfull. I hoping and praying for you doing better in the future
@mariagusman6949
@mariagusman6949 4 месяца назад
I genuinely 💯 related to this as well.
@KPaul7
@KPaul7 4 месяца назад
I agree as well. It's like a mini burnout.
@sayusayme7729
@sayusayme7729 4 месяца назад
Yes , very clear.
@NitFlickwick
@NitFlickwick 4 месяца назад
The comment about lack of sleep and everything being harder is so true. When I don’t get enough sleep on a particular day, I am on the edge of meltdown for the entire day. Needing to catch an early flight is a sure way to make sure i I have a bad day at the airport, which is already a difficult place to be.
@MissyRoseLord
@MissyRoseLord 4 месяца назад
The loss of a special interest thing blew my mind! It makes so much sense and every time I’ve had an extremely difficult patch in my life I always question why I’m not interested in my topic anymore. It makes me sad when it happens but now that I know that it goes with my Autism I can treat it. I’ve always suppressed my stims, tried to fit in, make friends etc. More recently I’ve allowed myself to stim and I don’t get to that mute, looking down, feeling detached level as often. Don’t get me wrong it still happens a lot (at least 4 times a week), I’m in my first year of uni and I really didn’t think I’d get here, but if I allow myself to stim, don’t force eye contact then it’s more manageable
@kalt1976
@kalt1976 4 месяца назад
Cognitive/executive overload resulting in shutdown/dissociation, is a big one for me. I have high iq, higher education pretigious job etc and so everyone just assumes that they can dump a shi*t ton of verbal or written info on me and I'll be fine. But I get utterly overwhelmed and become completely unable to act or think, my brain just burns down and shuts off, to the point that I cannot act on anything and completely lose my overview. And don't even get me started on sleep....
@PURPLEHAZE30000
@PURPLEHAZE30000 4 месяца назад
I've never been diagnosed as autistic but this is me. In fact I keep saying I'm done. It's all too much So I shut down. My husband thinks I'm lazy. He doesn't understand me. Everything you said I do, I'm shocked. I can't process instructions. I can't believe someone gets it. Thank you. It's a nightmare and I get blamed. I keep saying I want to go home.
@mammajamma4959
@mammajamma4959 4 месяца назад
wow. Its hard to find words to thank you. Thank you.
@xAnouchka
@xAnouchka 4 месяца назад
Thank you so much for this video! It's been so difficult to find good explanations of shutdowns, I've been under the impression I just don't experience meltdowns or shutdowns. But what you describe I feel almost every day and now I can share this video with my family and hopefully it will be easier for them to understand also what's happening to me when I go into avoidance mode
@danaberries11
@danaberries11 4 месяца назад
Same. Wow. Every single thing he mentioned I was like '✔️yup, ✔️yup, ✔️yup 😳 Exactly my daily experience since like, forever.
@derekmerry1372
@derekmerry1372 4 месяца назад
My 18 year old son hasn't spoken a single word or communicated even by gesture with me for 15 months now. Thank you Orion for helping me understand.
@voidbreaker4105
@voidbreaker4105 4 месяца назад
I'm in the middle of an emotional explosion right now and found your videos, they help. Thank you for existing and making me feel less alone.
@Annique
@Annique 4 месяца назад
This is a really important video, and EXTREMELY relateable. Last year I went through autistic burnout and I was in shutdown for much of that time. Where normally I can handle eye contact, background noise and generally the responsibilities of adult life perfectly fine, all these things became unbearably harsh stimuli. I also declined cognitively, couldn't speak or speak properly, I couldn't find words and would sound like I was confused, sound like a garbling idiot. Certainly retreated from everyone around me even loved ones. As for the appetite, well, let's just say food was a main part of that burnout, to put it mildly. It's still a tricky thing. I am doing better now, even had some weight recovery, but if I am in a situation where I don't identify any safe foods I still feel anxious, but it's manageable anxiety. When I was at my worst I would feel an intense need to go home where I had everything I needed, where everything was according to standard. Also, I DID have that attitude of "got to burn through it, got to get stuff done, I can't just not do the things", until I ground myself physically and mentally down to a point where I couldn't do it anymore, couldn't do anything. It put me out of work for months and even still I'm not fully back up to my old hours. For real, autistic burnout and shutdown is not to be taken lightly, and chronic stress in autistic people is not something to poo-poo or just "get over". Tried that, didn't get me anywhere good.
@RobAnthonyDire
@RobAnthonyDire 4 месяца назад
I used to lock myself in my room and stay in bed, sometimes sleeping for several days at a time. I was told it was depressions, but it felt more like complete exhaustion, usually after having to mask excessively, and feeling extreme need to "recharge."
@AEM479
@AEM479 22 дня назад
Yes- I keep getting told I’m Bipolar. Nope- Not a mood change. It’s fatigue from overwhelm unrelated to depression for me.
@andi56837ykvk
@andi56837ykvk 4 месяца назад
I’m very curious about apathy and Autism - or even apathy and burnout for people with asd. I have seen a therapist in the past because I felt completely detached from my emotions, couldn’t even tell if I loved my partner or anyone close to me. So he organised for me to see a therapist thru his work, and she helped me work thru the things going on in my life at the time, and we got to the root of it. I spoke to my partner about how I felt apathy and the root cause, and gradually the emotions returned. We came close to breaking up but thankfully didn’t 😅 However I still struggle to connect and understand my emotions, and still end up struggling with apathy from time to time.
@AG-yj1jv
@AG-yj1jv 4 месяца назад
O.M.G⚠️‼️‼️‼️✅️‼️‼️‼️⚠️ "Hold, please." BRILLIANT - THIS COULD SOLVE SO FREAKING MUCH IN MY LIFE!!!!!!
@THEMilaTigger
@THEMilaTigger 4 месяца назад
I have been slowly heading toward full blown burn out since 2011. Just after the return to work part of the pandemic in the US, I completely shut down and cannot seem to pull myself out. I lost my only full blood sibling to a stroke 2yrs ago, timed with the return to work event. I am stuck. We failed all IVF cycles, and that has made it worse. I feel like I need rescued. Thanks for taking the time to read my message.
@isabellefaguy7351
@isabellefaguy7351 4 месяца назад
cognitive overload is a huge shutdown trigger for me
@asaldanapr
@asaldanapr 4 месяца назад
Right now I’m going through a long period of shutdown and just realized it thanks to your video. I stopped using my cpap machine and recognize now that is part of it, amongst many of the other reasons you explained. But oh how I hate it! Must stop and not think too much about it and convince myself that to get out of this funk I have to get back to using it, it’s a necessary evil for me.
@PurpleAmharicCoffee
@PurpleAmharicCoffee 4 месяца назад
I feel like I have experienced this more that I have realised- especially when I can't relate to others in a social situation. This is why I attend hobby groups specified to my interests. My mind in private- Oh my gosh, I have so many subjects I can talk about to others! My mind in public- Error 404: Subjects not found.
@TheAnhedonicOne
@TheAnhedonicOne 4 месяца назад
It's very frustrating going into shutdown mode, staring off, feeling overwhelmed, your mind racing and slowing down at the same time and nobody understands. People don't realize how much pain you could be in when you're that silent and that unresponsive.
@itstruckmeeveryday
@itstruckmeeveryday 4 месяца назад
Yay!!! I don’t have autistic meltdowns. I grew up in a home where I was the target of people’s bad moods and meltdowns, so I have dedicated everything in myself to not be like that.
@roxannireland
@roxannireland 4 месяца назад
I imagine that I am calling for tech support on my brain... SUPPORT AGENT: Thank you for calling Neurotix support. Your call is very important to us and may be recorded for your excruciatingly self-critical review when you are trying to get to sleep. How can I help you today? ME: Oh, uh, I was trying to run Witty Conversationalist at a party and it kept crashing. By the end I could only get my brain to boot into safe mode. SUPPORT AGENT: Well, that sounds unpleasant. I'd like to get some info for troubleshooting. What version of HumanNT are you running? ME: I'm not running HumanNT. I use HumanND. SUPPORT AGENT: Uh, Witty Conversationalist isn't supported on HumanND. ME: I know. I run it in an NT Emulator. SUPPORT AGENT: Emulators are resource heavy. Do you have enough memory? ME: Maybe? I have ADHD installed, so my working memory isn't great. SUPPORT AGENT: Well, that's your problem right there. You are trying to run Witty Conversationalist in an NT Emulator with low memory, in a chaotic sensory environment, among new people, with no established role to play in the interaction? I'm surprised smoke wasn't coming out of your ears. ME: Okay, is there anything I can do to fix it? SUPPORT AGENT: I mean, if you could install more memory maybe... ME: Oh great! How do I install more memory? SUPPORT AGENT: That's a hardware question. I dunno, maybe try yoga?
@DavidSchemmel
@DavidSchemmel 4 месяца назад
Lol. I just normal people would slow down. And try to understand us
@angieturner3928
@angieturner3928 4 месяца назад
Absolutely awesome! I totally get the self-deprecating witty humor! I have the same coping mechanism.
@reyettac847
@reyettac847 4 месяца назад
What a ridiculously validating video. I never knew this was an autism thing! I have always referred to these episodes as "my brain broke". Most commonly, I get the ones you call "cognitive overwhelm". It usually happens if i'm trying to learn something new that is very complex, or doing something else that requires a lot of brainpower, and there are any external stimuli splitting my attention. There have been times where I had to just gently tell my partner or friends to leave me be and not interact at all for a little while so I can tunnel-vision what i'm working on and work through it. Other times when that's not feasible, such as out in public when strangers are the external stimuli, i'll need to just abandon what I was trying to say or do to avoid the shutdown turning into a meltdown. It's caused me a lot of trouble and I always wondered where it came from.
@ADHDForever
@ADHDForever 4 месяца назад
Insightful yet again. You’ve described this 48 yr old undiagnosed person perfectly. This ep and your prior one on Hidden Austic traits (2-2). Countless moments in my life (as child & an adult) where it’s like my brain shuts down, leaving me stuck, seemingly frozen. When the signals start to re-fire or the “buffer” catches up I’m back to normal, however often the moments past and you then get criticised for not paying attention, being withdrawn or detached or my favourites - lacking self awareness and emotion. Clearly it’s quite the opposite in fact!
@jakke1975
@jakke1975 4 месяца назад
For me personally, a shutdown is not "equally" distressing as a meltdown. Instead it's like a meltdown on steroids and does much more damage as well. The danger about it is if others do not recognize what is happening (especially if you're not even diagnosed and even you don't understand) and are very much inclined to make the situation worse. Seeing an unresponsive adult in a situation where he or she needs to be relied on, can trigger others to shout at you, hit you, treating you like a little child who has a tantrum, fire you from your job, publicly ridicule you and I could go on for a while. It's a very traumatic experience because while we're not responsive, it's not like we're unconscious ... we do hear and see what goes on but we simply can't process the information at the time, nor respond. Don't even ask us to "nod our head". For me the only things that help at such time are people who are silent but willing to give a heartfelt hug, having a support pet around and otherwise, just leave us the bloody hell alone. But please do make sure there is nothing around us that we can use to self-harm ourselves. We go very, very deep during a shutdown.
@angieturner3928
@angieturner3928 4 месяца назад
Same. Frequently, during shutdowns, I have considered whether the world would be better without me... if anyone even noticed I was gone.
@jakke1975
@jakke1975 4 месяца назад
@@angieturner3928 Wish I could give you a hug ... it's so bloody hard to find someone who understands what it's like and to give the support that is needed. For me personally, it doesn't help knowing that I'm not alone. Knowing that others go through the same pain doesn't make it hurt less, it actually makes me more sad. In any case, I wish you a lot of love, strength and I hope you find the support that you need and deserve.
@tnix80
@tnix80 4 месяца назад
Bless you for these videos, it's hard enough to understand myself, much less explain to people around me! I often communicate a thought with a video.
@HEAVENONEARTH-op2iy
@HEAVENONEARTH-op2iy 3 месяца назад
Thanks for sharing very helpful stuff 😀 👍
@kryssalou
@kryssalou 4 месяца назад
experiencing everything more intensely when sleep deprived…. that just makes my whole life make more sense. i dealt with family and significant others forcibly depriving me on top of having a sleep disorder, audhd, and severe trauma. the way i either shut down or become reactive until i melt down so often is just another piece of the late diagnosis puzzle… and more insight to my excessssiveeee use of drugs and alcohol growing up. you are definitely my favorite ND creator to learn from and relate to, i appreciate these videos so much.
@jennyferNumberone
@jennyferNumberone 4 месяца назад
Thank you! 😃❤️🖖 You are always an amazing source for information for & about our community
@tamberjune
@tamberjune 14 дней назад
I have a really hard time with having the plan down and then, if anything changes, or I feel like something is off, I may shut down straight up by not being able to get out of the cognitive overload that I've been experiencing lately. I just need a step back and support in the areas that are too hard for me. Hopefully I'll be able to find what can help me out. I do kind of dissociate where my brain may as well be under a rock. But I'm there just withdrawn so much I'm not really there. Then whoever I am with can feel they have to tell at me or say things multiple times. I still can't even tell what they're saying or doing. It's unpredictable and sometimes I shut down around like hard paperwork or phone calls etc., I shut down, but I have been trying to pause and figure out what's even going on in my brain. I've had lots of therapy. Lots. I am experiencing the fact that my partner may also be neurodivergent. It's interesting because he shuts down as well. We're learning to work together to learn more. Like through your podcasts and videos. 😊 I'm to have add testing coming up, but my psychiatrist said the testing is only one small data point on the scale you should be tested on. She's hopeful they'll be able to help. Also, sleep is so important. I feel so much worse when I don't sleep well. Then I'll get a migraine and a stomachache etc. those can lead to shutdowns. 😅
@HihighHeisenberg
@HihighHeisenberg 4 месяца назад
I'm just coming out of a week long shutdown. It has been horrible but videos like this help me to process and understand what is happening in my brain. Unfortunately it was brought about by being basically abused and bullied by the boss in a new workplace. Quitting the job has got me out of the situation but I'm now, again, looking for a job. Thank you for making these videos.
@doroma6920
@doroma6920 4 месяца назад
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!! I was wondering if I am autistic because I never had a meltdown and wasn't sure about shutdowns. I have expirienced the things you are talking about here a thousand times! That is very reassuring! Thank you! ❤
@kellyschroeder7437
@kellyschroeder7437 4 месяца назад
Thanks Orion !!! 💙👊
@marisa5359
@marisa5359 4 месяца назад
Yes...actually I am much more prone to shutdown than meltdown overall. Distress is certainly there coming from every corner of life but there is something about folding it all within to the point I can feel almost nonexistent. There are times I simply must do this.
@jennifercatherinekarel8925
@jennifercatherinekarel8925 2 месяца назад
You answered a lot of questions, ThankYou.
@pineberry212
@pineberry212 4 месяца назад
Thank you, this definitely opened my eyes a bit. Especially since i just had a shutdown go into a meltdown when my toddler pushed me over the edge. I sidnt realize too much of a good thing could cause that.
@silverninja5218
@silverninja5218 4 месяца назад
Shirt tags are the bane of my existence. I hate when they brush up on my neck, giving me a shiver.
@yuriiackermann3583
@yuriiackermann3583 4 месяца назад
I got diagnosed about year ago and I still can’t get many things, but I understand my behaviour more. Now I know I mostly have autistic shoutdowns. Once I got a situation when I was on a meeting with my friends, because one of them had birthday. Everyone was laughing of my story that I was talking about and they didn’t let me end. Because of that I started to shake my hands and couldn’t say a word. This friend told me I am not okay that I behave badly, but I really couldn’t say I word. I was wondering, why I am so terrible friend, but now I understand that. Thank you for that channel, it really helps me understand myself. Before my therapist told me I am autistic, my psychologist said, I have depression, anxiety and OCD. Now I know it was because of the late diagnosis (I was diagnosed when I was almost 20 years old) I am curious, how my parents haven’t noticed that?
@etcwhatever
@etcwhatever 4 месяца назад
Your examples of shutdown tell me i spend a lot of time in a shutdown state. I always knew i had a bunch of meltdowns as they are a no brainer.
@m.g.2926
@m.g.2926 6 дней назад
I am so thankful for you!
@ronniecorbett6306
@ronniecorbett6306 4 месяца назад
I love your videos my friend. You have helped me more than you know or I can say, you explain me better than I ever can. Thank you. 👍
@x3SayuriChan
@x3SayuriChan 4 месяца назад
It makes so much sense to me now. I used to have frequent meltdowns before I got enrolled in school. But once I got into school they abruptly stopped. I can only remember two instances since school where I had a meltdown. Great right? WRONG. The reason why they stopped is because whenever I had a meltdown then people would flock around me. Especially if they didn’t know me. Either screaming at me or trying to console me. Everything that was making me even more stressed out. So I instead had lots of shutdowns once I got into school. I withdrew myself as often as I could. Would go to the bathroom really frequently to escape whatever stressful situation. But bottling up all those feelings wasn‘t making it any easier. Oh no absolutely not easier. It got much worse. Shutdowns are more dangerous imo. If you can‘t let those feelings of severe distress out somewhere then you‘ll eventually burst and break. Happened to me. And cleaning up the mess takes a really long time.
@Catlily5
@Catlily5 4 месяца назад
Yeah, I would run to the bathroom in school so no one could see me cry.
@jeannieboles6173
@jeannieboles6173 4 месяца назад
The hold please has been my worst stumble with humanity. I have had so many hearing tests in my youth because i was asked a question and said "What?" because i needed a moment. My brain was not translating the thing said.
@dorememe8548
@dorememe8548 23 дня назад
I’m working a burnout job. The kind of work I do right would be overwhelming for a neurotypical person. I have ADHD, but the ways I’ve started cognitively responding to the stress, mixed with the occasionally sensory overload I get at work, I am wondering whether I might be on the spectrum. Whether or not that turns out to be the case, this might help me get closer to the truth. Thank you.
@ThomasDoubting5
@ThomasDoubting5 4 месяца назад
You are a hero
@Wing_It_Wildflower
@Wing_It_Wildflower 3 месяца назад
I just showed this to my Dad. Thankyou 🙏😊
@Mytommyj22
@Mytommyj22 4 месяца назад
Hubby had a shut down today and I had a meltdown yesterday. It's been a rough year. 😅
@FulanitoDTal-Lugar
@FulanitoDTal-Lugar 4 месяца назад
Mannnnnn, I'm like seriously about to fucking cry. I'm coming out of one of these right now, except I didn't know what they were. There is so much about myself I never learned because I was always taught that everything I did was wrong. For example, having a shut down was "being rude and selfish" so then I start telling myself that I'm being rude and selfish, then being too much because I can't get out of the shut down. I feel like I need to go through an entire program to unravel all the harmful lessons I was taught by NT society and learn to function autistically rather than just wondering if I'm in some sort of twisted experiment. I appreciate all the autistic advocates in the community that share this education. Thank you so much.
@bensabelhaus7288
@bensabelhaus7288 4 месяца назад
Anxiety attack vs panic attack ;) Anxiety attacks I internalize. When I'm not allowed to recover / escape the situation is when I blow up as it becomes a panic attack ;) I know general anxiety well and have a lot of experiences in the anxiety - panic transition. Anxiety attack is running late after parking in a disabled spot but can still make the appointment. Panic attack is the realization that you got off on 3 instead of 4, the other elevator is broken.... still extremely bad anxiety attack. Where's the stairwell? :Kicks broken elevator and melts down There's the panic attack. But it's not over yet, still gotta escape the facility. You go back down and security is dressed for downtown Iraq and heading up .... F f f f f
@BrickNewton
@BrickNewton 4 месяца назад
For me: Anxiety attack- knowing that I have to do something/be somewhere and over thinking it and thinking of all the bad things that could happen or how will I say something wrong or do the wrong thing before the event. Panic attack: something that happens out of the blue that stresses me out. Such as I have asked to do something and when I go to do it I realize I'm not sure what I'm doing and panic as everyone seems to be able to do it why can't I...then I stress that they will think I'm useless or stupid and have a panic attack.
@richardkranium2584
@richardkranium2584 Месяц назад
I had a melt down yesterday when a family friend said "I know you hate this but I'm doing it anyway" and threw herself on me with a total bodyweight hug. This caught me off guard and I totally lost it. I said things I shouldn't have and just plain lost control. I usually can shrug things like this off and just get quiet and leave the area but this time I just couldn't. Is this normal? I mean I miss doc appointments just to avoid touching
@newtuber4freedom43
@newtuber4freedom43 4 месяца назад
Sometime muting is not selective, it just is ...
@mozie4258
@mozie4258 4 месяца назад
Ohhh, this is what I did every year in high school and college on the first day of school. The teachers would decide for some reason that going over the ENTIRE syllabus for the WHOLE SEMESTER was a great way to start and definitely not overwhelming to students. And since if I thought about all those things I had to do at once I'd lose it I just simply. stopped thinking. Just kinda stared at nothing, maybe doodled. I retreated and shut down until that horrible first day was over.
@rebeckajarl3934
@rebeckajarl3934 4 месяца назад
Thank for putting words on my experiences!
@coolqh
@coolqh 4 месяца назад
Yes, this happens to me and I finally have the explaination, diagnosed this year at 46.
@jodrichy
@jodrichy 4 месяца назад
I struggle to figure out why I am having a shutdown sometimes. I can't tell something up, but I am not sure whats triggering it.
@Astro-Markus
@Astro-Markus 4 месяца назад
Even worse when a trigger causes another. Imagine social gatherings not being already enough stress. But then try to follow a discussion with many backs and forths while you are weighing the arguments exchanged. No way you'll be able play an active role. I think, lots of decisions neurotypicals make during such situations are subconscious while autistic people do the same thing consciously. That's similar to comparing a compiler language with libraries to a purely script-based process.
@davidgarciacooke337
@davidgarciacooke337 4 месяца назад
Good video. Everybody seems to forget to talk about shutdowns. I seem to get them when there is somthing I can't control, due to my mental rigidness, such as somebody's attitude or a problem with the computer at work. Also with changes in my routine. I need to go home and do some excerise straight after work. If for some reason I can't that can shut me down. And obviously if these shutdowns come very frequently we are navigating straight into a burnout
@Green_Roc
@Green_Roc 3 месяца назад
My shutdowns are rare. I meltdown about 3x a week. February 2024, I shutdown for 6+ days. I had to be hospitalized to get an IV so I wouldn't die. I was most definitely overwhelmed before that shutdown hit. Others ignorance could kill me. Scary!
@kcmap22
@kcmap22 4 месяца назад
Every time I "reboot", I get confused / pissed and reboot again.. It's a BAD circle... Damn near everything to me is black and white, wish everyone worked that way. 💯
@meg01968
@meg01968 4 месяца назад
Hard to swallow. I’m undiagnosed high masking, high performance and completely burned out and shut down much of the time …. Ugh.
@marandadavis9412
@marandadavis9412 4 месяца назад
I tend to experience shut downs more often than meltdowns, Though sometimes I will experience both in sequence (shut down first and then meltdown when I get away from the source of my stress)
@morganladner2063
@morganladner2063 Месяц назад
My son has been going through very consistent shut downs for about 5 months. He would have some occasionally but now there are multiples a day no matter if we're on a regular schedule or not. He's been more down than up and I am lost as how to help him.
@lisawanderess
@lisawanderess 4 месяца назад
"I'm done"... my two most commonly uttered words 😂
@Doug_MacArthur
@Doug_MacArthur 4 месяца назад
When you check practically all the boxes that you mentioned in this video...
@robbunch2225
@robbunch2225 4 месяца назад
My autistic niece did Melt downs, I tend to shut downs.
@ShepardfortheLord
@ShepardfortheLord 4 месяца назад
Thank you, very informative.
@charlesclose2420
@charlesclose2420 4 месяца назад
I often say to myself, I don't know what to say or sometimes do?:)
@Catlily5
@Catlily5 4 месяца назад
I have had times when I froze for half an hour or more from so much fear and I couldn't talk or move. I thought it was due to trauma but lately I heard that you can have autistic catatonia.
@fumtastic4101
@fumtastic4101 4 месяца назад
ill be working on line at taco bell and well bve super busy for a while and ill just stop talking and stop listening. just look at the screen and make the food. because somehow the thing stressing me also helps with the stress
@Green_Roc
@Green_Roc 3 месяца назад
So many of my family members NEVER understood, what you understans about shutdowns. My own father. He pushed me to "deal with it". He refused to understand, I was in shutdown. I could NOT obey him to move. I told my body to MOVE, and it refused.
@bokusimondesu
@bokusimondesu 4 месяца назад
On my second week of seclusion, burned out and shutdown. Can't be bothered meeting people outside. Glad that I got sober 3½ years ago. It sure would have been ugly had I not. 😅
@rebeckajarl3934
@rebeckajarl3934 4 месяца назад
Sensory overload are triggers for me, to much excitement can also be, to much.
@Passing_for_Neurotypical
@Passing_for_Neurotypical 4 месяца назад
I feel like every month now I'm burning out. I need like 2 days off work as a result. This isn't sustainable, because I'm worried about missing work.
@Soleil.m
@Soleil.m 4 месяца назад
I suspect I may be autistic but I don’t think I’ve ever had a meltdown. My brother is autistic and according to my parents, I was like an angel compared to him. I’d just go and hide away if I was upset, and that’s true to this day. I’m female, I guess that could have something to do with it.
@Diamondphobe
@Diamondphobe 4 месяца назад
This is probably the best video you've ever done.
@sylviaanne2320
@sylviaanne2320 4 месяца назад
Sometimes I feel l fine, but then I start being really slow, particularly while looking for something, then I'll trash my whole apartment, and can't clean it up. Then I retreat to my bed. It's the worst. It just looks like lazy. I've been so mean to myself in the past. I don't want to talk to anyone, or see anyone. Then I try to Lauren to all this self help stuff. Now I'm totally overwhelmed but I'm just quiet here. Ahhhh!
@abomb9299
@abomb9299 4 месяца назад
I will Often shutdown to avoid a public meltdown, usually in a workplace environment, till I can no longer stand the abuse, which then leads me to have to leave my job and a massive burnout. Does that make sense?
@bryceehret8149
@bryceehret8149 4 месяца назад
I'm experienced all the triggers god help me😂😂😂😂😂😂
@Skyjamb
@Skyjamb Месяц назад
Great vid thank you
@denisedarland3345
@denisedarland3345 4 месяца назад
I would like to learn more about autistic burnout. Is it just duration? Like, I feel like I have been experiencing shutdown since the start of pandemic 2020 or so.
@tzimpel
@tzimpel 4 месяца назад
I just recognized that at some time I started to experience shutdowns to so to speak „mask“ meltdowns. I suppressed meltdowns until they manifested as shutdowns instead.
@marshmallowweekly8575
@marshmallowweekly8575 4 месяца назад
I am partal non verbal when stressed so i guess that is part of a shut down
@batintheattic7293
@batintheattic7293 4 месяца назад
I've just realised a potentially huge cause of 'disease - dis ease' - for anybody but particularly autistic people. Wonkiness in the home. Old houses. No right angles. Nothing level. Random bits sticking out. Creaking floorboards. Cracks. Doors that suddenly stop fitting their jambs. Builders that don't need/don't own spirit levels. Does anybody else think their house might be making them ill? Can our own homes cause shut down, eventually? It might take years to become symptomatic. I wonder if there have been any studies of what the long term health outcomes, for people in the house that Jack built, are.
@justindohrer4586
@justindohrer4586 4 месяца назад
I feel like i cant do anythign right i hate feeling like this
@annajohnson9359
@annajohnson9359 4 месяца назад
You're awesome ❤
@jayhosh8126
@jayhosh8126 4 дня назад
Uhhh, is it possible for shutdowns to be so severe that it occurs for long periods of time, like days? Like, is it unreasonable and unrealistic for me to experience a shutdown every day? I ask because very very occasionally ill have a burst of energy and then begin getting things together i was blowing off, and then eventually a trigger happens of sorts where its like, throwing all your work papers in the air and just going right back into this..."mental den". Away from people, barely speak a word to anyone at work, ignoring family and friends. Can this be almost a constant state? I've always assumed my energetic moments was a manic state, and the other state was depression, but the spectrum of autism relates to me so much more in all the prime ways.
@ThinkPositiveDude
@ThinkPositiveDude 2 дня назад
you can easily slip in and out of a shutdown when you're experiencing an autistic burnout, which can last months to years.
@scowlsmcjowls2626
@scowlsmcjowls2626 4 месяца назад
The pandemic has really brought that aspect out alot in me
@casperssleepsalot1417
@casperssleepsalot1417 Месяц назад
Yes
@dmcsunshine1
@dmcsunshine1 4 месяца назад
❤❤❤
@Sing4God87
@Sing4God87 4 месяца назад
Is this exclusively an autistic thing or does it occur with ADHD too? Ive heard of similar struggles in those with depression. Wondering if there's overlap.
@casperssleepsalot1417
@casperssleepsalot1417 Месяц назад
Can losing your home make that happen ?
@wwhannah_banana8128
@wwhannah_banana8128 4 месяца назад
Do you have any resources or videos for the spouses? As in we notice these things how can we best react and help our partners?
@lindasapiecha2515
@lindasapiecha2515 4 месяца назад
👍❤️
@ohkay7418
@ohkay7418 4 месяца назад
All family is on the spectrum. All shutdown today
@zametal.
@zametal. 4 месяца назад
Comment for the engagement, but not having words. So here: 😶‍🌫
@zarynaryaz
@zarynaryaz 3 месяца назад
I don't know if other people experience this, but I often get a shut-down if I catch a terrible cold/getting sick. Looks like even the overload of my body get's me to the edge 🥲
@fatheroftherealm
@fatheroftherealm 4 месяца назад
Autistic heavy comment sections seem to be the most supportive and understanding. I appreciate the channel and the delivery of information.
@jazzdirt
@jazzdirt 4 месяца назад
Very ironic, and also very true...
@heedmydemands
@heedmydemands 4 месяца назад
I like your screen name, and yeah so nice to b among autists
@Passing_for_Neurotypical
@Passing_for_Neurotypical 4 месяца назад
A bit overwhelming I imagine, but I'm also craving it to be honest (for my comments sections). Right now they are only the random people that have no club about anything I'm talking about.
@jazzdirt
@jazzdirt 4 месяца назад
@@Passing_for_Neurotypical You'll grow your audience... be patient...
@Passing_for_Neurotypical
@Passing_for_Neurotypical 4 месяца назад
@@jazzdirt Maybe or maybe not. I have to admit that at 50+ it's a little harder to be patient.
@casperssleepsalot1417
@casperssleepsalot1417 Месяц назад
Yes
@spaaaced-t5s
@spaaaced-t5s 4 месяца назад
Yes, I used to believe that I simply found other people boring and dull and just took myself to the toilet, or broke into my special interest. Problem is many of them say they understand, but when it comes to it, they simply lose patience. I really have big big problems with dealing with NT's. The lack of sleep thing is extremely bad because the light seems even brighter and the noises sound even louder and thats on top of everything else.
@celeste8157
@celeste8157 4 месяца назад
I'm having one today. Not fun. I always find it difficult to speak, but it's damn near impossible when having a shutdown. Having to leave my house and do something in public for a couple days in a row usually is what causes my shutdowns. This past week I had something to do Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday, so it has caught up to me today. Plus, I have hypersomnia and was up half the night last night. I CANNOT function without sleep, and I need more sleep than most people.
@t-man5196
@t-man5196 4 месяца назад
Damn having to leave your house and do something public for just two days causes shut downs for you? No wonder like 90 percent of autistic people or whatever the figure is are unemployed
@tpshsahoo7
@tpshsahoo7 4 месяца назад
Leaving home can be stressful for anyone... Does it necessarily mean autism
@MrScrelli
@MrScrelli 4 месяца назад
@@tpshsahoo7 If you are almost completely unable to speak and function, because you had to go out for a few days in a row then probably yes. It's different from being tired and not wanting to talk, it is physically straining to talk during shutdown if not impossible. Leaving home can be stressful for anyone yeah, but most people are stressed or exhausted maybe still from the night before and not constantly overwhelmed by the sounds of moving cars, chirping birds, talking people and the sun shining bright to the point that they can't handle it on a daily basis.
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