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Mika is not good with Wriothesely

He's only decent with furina and shenhe? Nah keep him at C

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Bloom as on Nilou bloom? I’m not sure exactly how good she is there but if she’s a solid option there I can see her going up to B - can’t really see why you’d ever use her there instead of Yaoyao or Kirara for the defensive slot but I could be overlooking something

@@GxGNoirshe’s situationally better than kokomi in Nilou bloom, because of her weird skill hydro app on cast. But that “nuke” only works if enemies are very close. B or C is fine for her although I use her all the time with the Nilou nahida baizhu core

@@GxGNoir she's the second best hydro app on nilou bloom after kokomi, which is an amazing team that still easily clears abyss. I really think she should be at least b, personally Id put her on A since we're going by the value of the entire team

She's rather good there yea. shes the second hydro, not competing with the second dendro like yao yao.@@GxGNoir

Because he’s SSSS.

He got confused

Sure, but Aggravate teams are definitely not S tier worthy teams they are kinda mid

Gaming team stronger than fischl teams

Gaming's lion >>>>>>>>>> Oz. Gaming >>>>>>>> Fischl Gaming is chad. 🗿

Problem is aggravate teams aren’t really S tier teams imo

What aggravate teams are S tier. Quickbloom c0 mogs it.

@@wilburforce8046 C0 who?

@@wilburforce8046 Just from my experience I have both Yae (Yae/Fischl/Baizhu/Kaz) and Alhaitham (Haitham/Nahida/Kuki/Hydro) and although Alhaitham sheets better in practice from my experience in practice there is a lot of content I clear faster with Yae Aggravate regardless. The benefit of having the frontloaded Yae burst along with being able to run Kazuha for grouping and AoE damage IMO makes Aggravate punch above its weight a lot of the time.

@@aerohydra3849 hmmm my haithem wins every time for me same gold cost. Are you playing him optimally with a good build? Both my Yae and Haithem have r1. I can see Yae take mass aoe cause Kazuha but for your ST runs even in practice haithem should be winning.

true but I will be executed if I put her any lower than that

Yeah, Suc National is extremely good in a speedrunning context because you can farm that triple/quad vape XQ E w/ Sac Sword, but that's not practical at all. It's like saying International is the best team in the game when you assume Aqua Simulacra on a critfish build with hundreds of resets.

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Kuki also has Alhaitham quickbloom which is definitely an S tier team

@@GxGNoir Fair, though I think it is still a "hyperbloom" team you just use Alhaitham in it. You use Kuki with the same build and the same exact way as well. But it is possible thet we rate charatcers different way and on different metrics.

yeah but its stronger@@reactiondavant-garde3391

@@GxGNoir Oh yes I agree. Quickbloom teams are basicly the matured form of the hyperbloom architype with better investemnt potential.

My knowledge of Nilou blooms honestly isn’t that great

@@GxGNoir ooh okey, as a Nilou main i can say for sure that Nilou teams are AOE powercreep, and they are f2p because u can start with MCD, collei, barbara etc. and upgrade with Nahida, Yelan Kokomi etc. (I use barbara as a Kokomi)

This is not a value tier list its a power tier list

@@GxGNoirstill much lower

@@mmelo7832 how?

She supports Xiao; with Xianyun, and Furina; which completely deletes any Xingqiu, or Xiangling team; so she’s better a lot; in my opinion…

@@manday2267 a character that is only slotted into teams as a anemo support... xiangling and xingqiu can be slotted into many teams with way higher dmg outputs

I don’t think aggravate and spread teams are as strong as the teams the units in S tier have tho

@@GxGNoir In the 3.X era I've been a giga praiser of Yaeggravate (Yae/Fischl/Kirara/Kazuha), but since 3.X ended it now feels a lot weaker compared to the other top teams. Probably because abyss blessings aren't really tailored with dendro reactions in mind anymore. There's also pretty much never an incentive to run aggravate, even with the few bosses that wants you to use Quicken because (Quick,Hyper)bloom is better (it also often means Xingqiu+Kuki which is comfier to run than aggravate if you don't have Baizhu). Kirara's shield also was a real joke against Coppelia, it's barely playable. She's playable in Nilou Bloom and sometimes comparable to Collei, but nothing extraordinary. There's often one side where there's a clear disadvantage in using aggravate (e.g. Seahorse, TM, some elemental shields, etc.) which in itself isn't *that* big of a deal because there's the other side, BUT more often than not you'll find yourself having an advantage in using another archetype. If you take a look at the 4.3 lineup for example, Tulpa is in the first half and there's both TM + an electro lawachurl on the second half. 4.2 had pyro abyss lectors in both sides so it's just straight up better to use hydro characters, 4.1 had Seahorse on one side and pyro abyss mages on the other, 4.0 had crab boss on one side and hydro phantasms on the other, 3.8 had pyro abyss lector on one side and electro lawachurl on the other, there's millions of examples it's actually funny to go check. The only lineup that really favored aggravate that I found (I didn't check all the lineups) was 3.7 first half, and it was Yae's rerun. So not only aggravate is worse at a base, more often than not there's also slight weaknesses in using them in some lineups. Spread doesn't have these slight weaknesses but it's still worse than (Quick,Hyper)blooms for most people.

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Because he burned the kitchen of his cooking?

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That’s way higher than I calced it at - if that’s accurate then I agree with you but can you share the sheet for that? I had it at like 79k

@@GxGNoircheck gcsim

Assumes R5 Crescent weakspot passive so it's already pretty unreliable, falls to 87k without them. You also don't have any shielder so you'll never reach the sim DPS in practice since Lyney is a CA bow user.

@@osmano8498 In the 1 gold cost one, yeah but there are alternatives like Amos or Harp you might have lying around, you can buy Scion or better yet, going for his sig is very much worth it in this team. That depends on enemies mostly. I can do it with Coppelia but I'd struggle against the beasts. Arlecchino might replace him here as the comfy (maybe even an upgrade) pick ig.

@@Ananta9817 Now that you mention it, Arlecchino might be extremely interesting. If she gets that kind of DPS while being more practical.. The only issue would be circle impact if she wants Bennett, we'll see.

She does way less damage without her burst though so the end result ends up the same - way less damage due to building a lot of ER or way less damage due to not using her burst

@@GxGNoir so you have her on c0 on c4 or c6 she is strong

@@Maja_J my Yanfei is c6 - she’s definitely strong and I can definitely see a fair argument for A tier but I’m not sure she’s quite strong enough to make the cut

@@GxGNoir Well depend on teams but Benny and kazuha make her beast .Another thing Barbara is to low he is go good in Nilu teams her hydro and healing are really good if you dont have kokofish..If you have c2 you can do lol Brabara dps build on wanderertrupe with witshit she will be doing 150k dmg or more if she get mona to buff her too not only benny.And anny player have her for free easy to buld hydro a lot of healing .

why? We arent in 1.0 anymore

@@GxGNoir Sucrose is extremely versatile and is still either a sidegrade or upgrade to kazuha in a lot of teams. Fischl again versatile, regens the most off field particles, deals some of the most offfield damage, is pretty much needed for agg teams, 100 uptime on her ult and applies the most offield electro

@@fr3941 I don’t really care how versatile they are if the teams they are used in aren’t as strong as the teams the characters in S tier use though

@@GxGNoir sucrose national is still one of the best teams in this game consistently. And she can literally be played in any team kazuha can be played in. And fischl can be played in almost every team including s tier comps that don’t care for electro app or want electro app

they can be played in those teams but they are gonna make them a lot weaker@@fr3941

Where?

@@GxGNoir I would say her most powerful team is hypercarry Beidou. Same exact team as Raiden hypercarry. It is just more quickswap orientated. One of the most comfy teams I have used was Beidou, Nahida, Xingqiu, Kuki. This team is all but invincible while still doing good dps. It was the team I used to clear the 3.7 Abyss first try for the top floor. However I do think she is mostly a specialist character where you only really want to bring her to fights that have 2 or 3 enemies. In those fights she is competing with top dps 5 stars. Taser versions of Beidou are the weaker side of Beidou teams and are only really good at low investment.

@@GxGNoir Tazer - She give with Xingqiu a lot of interruption resistence and damage reduction and single handadle solve the team AoE problem in the case of the traditional Sucrose/Fischl/Xingqiue/Beidou variant. But you can build a lot of different tazer team where you use her and even without Xingqiu she can have enough interruption resistence. Aggravate - Can be pretty good if you don't have Yae or Kequing or you need more AoE. You can use Sucrose as a driver with her and if you use Yao Yao she help with the interruption resistence or if you use her with Kirara she help with the damage reduction. Spread - In somecase you want to use her because her AoE and defensive utility. I used her in my Tighnari team agains the Abyss where one side had Simon/Dendro Chiken/Dancer only because defensive utlity and because she drived Fischl + Dendro Chiken. But better use her with Alhaitam or with on field Nahda spread if you don't have Yae. Nothing amazing but a nice option and an alternative way to play the game. Hyperbloom - You can use her in hyperbloom teams as she doesn't interract with the blooms. You can do a team where you use Sucrose swirl to activate the hyperbloom, but you can play a Nahida/Xingqiu/Kuki/Beidou team as well, where you play Nahida on-field and it is should be a very comfy team with very high survivality and good AoE coverege with very good ingle target damage as well. Or you can use her in some quickbloom teams as well. And her damage doesn't fall off with more then 2 enemy, it is a misconceptions anyway, because if you have two enemy with 100-100 HP is the same as having four enemy with 50-50-50-50 HP except in the case of overkilling them, but Beidou is a sustain damage dealer and you use her sustain damage dealing teams so it is not really a a problem. Enemy number can matter inc ase of grouping or something like thet but I don't really see why would Beidou deal "less" damage in non-duo situation.

​@@GxGNoirExactly. Where?

@@GxGNoirshe’s a really good sub dps, that Can be played in most f2p teams as agravatte, taser, overload. Also she can work in quicken teams with ai haitham very well, as well with neuvillete .

They are not that good to trigger Hydro reactions; compared to Xingqiu/ Yelan, and Furina…

@@manday2267*couch2x Nilou Blooms *couch2x

@@manday2267Also XQ and Yelan doesn’t “trigger” hydro reactions lmao 😂. They Enable it. There’s a difference. On the contrary, they are probably the worst triggers that exists in the game.

Oh, I forgot about Nilou herself, and Kokomei. 😅

@@banir3736 I saw people playing Xingqiu with Al-Haitham in Nilou bloom…

Yeah lol I wanted to move someone down from B to C to make it look cleaner

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How can you put Diona in D tier with Layla being in A tier is beyond me 😢

Nah she cope

@@davidecimino7112 because Layla is way better