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I've finally gotten around to updating my 5 star weapon tier list from nearly a year ago! We've had many new weapons introduced in Genshin Impact and now seemed like a good time to finally update it.
0:00 | Tier List Adjustments
5:17 | New Weapons
14:13 | Closing Statements
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@IWinToLose
@IWinToLose Год назад
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@trolleycartwheel9409
@trolleycartwheel9409 Год назад
Dude you gotta have an editor, hire me for typo checking. You have a typo right now at your title.
@Reon___
@Reon___ Год назад
For the first time i’m early today 😆. Ty for making these videos for us ❤
@shauryasuri3653
@shauryasuri3653 Год назад
Got the dehya claymore in 10 pulls by mistake. Never thought it was this good
@burabunny664
@burabunny664 Год назад
Do 4star weapon tier list 😂
@Himmelswind
@Himmelswind Год назад
I would have loved to have the tier list on the big screen at the end and tbh also the same list with the weapon names typed out, mostly I don't know which weapon is what from just the pictures😅
@devam8192
@devam8192 Год назад
There was a time when Wolf's Gravestone was considered the best weapon in game because it was BIS for Diluc who was also considered the best DPS in game.
@jermasus
@jermasus Год назад
"bennett sucks he cant hit hard like diluc no one should use him" "sure lets get you to bed grandpa"
@UryuCifer
@UryuCifer Год назад
​@Hand Solo its not wrong that bennet is indeed overrated
@joeyisabsb1
@joeyisabsb1 Год назад
"qiqi is broken, SS tier"
@mmmkay2457
@mmmkay2457 Год назад
@@UryuCifer we hear you grandpa
@Indra-yf4rd
@Indra-yf4rd Год назад
@@joeyisabsb1 back then, when enemy hits so hard and we barely have good artifact, healer is easily SS tier.
@Erksah68
@Erksah68 Год назад
Dehyas weapon will be ranked much higher than dehya was herself😅
@Gamechannel10321
@Gamechannel10321 Год назад
No
@sensibleDuck893
@sensibleDuck893 Год назад
its a very good weapon tbh. Good Base atl , good passive giving like 40% more atk max. and good crit rate main stat which is always better for Balancing crit ratios.
@kuronekosama6125
@kuronekosama6125 Год назад
It's much better on Diluc c2 than Dehya c6 tbh 😂
@ReloGP14th
@ReloGP14th Год назад
her weapon is like a good substitute if you dont have the wolf one. Almost all characters can use her weapons
@Erksah68
@Erksah68 Год назад
@@sensibleDuck893 it's really good on eula like iwtl said. I already had sobp but if i didnt id have pulled for the beacon for sure, even though i find that weapon to be ugly af
@TobiasL1000
@TobiasL1000 Год назад
Skyward harp is a good bow for many characters. It should stay where it was.
@Pavillion-uf2gz
@Pavillion-uf2gz Год назад
yea its great but not worth pulling for considering u might get it from standard banner
@mattsopiratoso790
@mattsopiratoso790 Год назад
It's great! The problem isn't that it is bad, it just fell behind as newer and more broken weapons appeared like aqua simulacra, polar star, and generic inazuman 5 star boring electro bow.
@Chi3fFox
@Chi3fFox Год назад
Its an overrated weapon it has good base attack and both crit but its just a stat stick crit isnt the only thing that does damage passives matter even my fishcl does more damage with stringless than harp because of stringless passive
@Violate..
@Violate.. Год назад
i mean skyward spine isnt bad but cannot compete with the other weapons lets be real here
@christhis5453
@christhis5453 Год назад
@@Violate.. Harp*. It still remains the best for Sara buffer and Fischl subDPS while being a flexible pick for other bow users like Childe and Venti. Compared to the Foliar sword or even Yae's weapon, i'll take the Harp any day.
@ryuuraga1619
@ryuuraga1619 Год назад
The only suggestion I can find is switching Song of Broken Pines and Redhorn Stonethresher's placement. Song of Broken Pines is only good for Eula and Razor, average for P. Xinyan, no-go for everyone else. Redhorn Stonethresher meanwhile is best in-slot for Itto, Noelle, and Xinyan; higher teir weapon for Diluc, Eula (with Benny buff), Razor and DPS Dehya (ER sands EoSF with C6 Benny buff; yup her Burst doesn't proc the passive, but she still benefits a lot from Crit Dmg that it makes Redhorn's passive negligeable) ; above average for other Claymore DPS (Chongyun, Beidou). Another suggestion: Skyward Spine have the same viability as Skyward Pride. It may be outclassed by The Catch, but you can only get one The Catch per account. Skyward Spine is a good weapon for Raiden (if Catch is equipped to Xiangling or you don't have Engulfing), Xiangling (same condition as Raiden's), Xiao (if other weapons are not available, this is still a great DPS and ER consolidation weapon for him), Shenhe (high Base Attack), EoSF Melt Rosaria and Burst Zhongli. It may also be equipped as a replacement for Favonius reliant characters if FavLance isn't available: Shield Thoma, Mika, Yaoyao, Yun Jin, Candace. Putting it with the same teir as that Donut just because a single-acquired weapon is better than it is just unfair for its viability as a consolidation weapon when weapons in a teir higher than it have too low of a viability than it.
@Daily_Dose_of_Grass
@Daily_Dose_of_Grass Год назад
I've heard sobp works with sayu as well, is this true ?
@Lychem
@Lychem Год назад
@@Daily_Dose_of_Grass Definitely not. Unless you want to play Sayu as a phys DPS, which would not be great, there's no reason to use it over any EM or ER claymore like fav, inazuma craftable, sumeru craftable or the 3.5 event claymore.
@Daily_Dose_of_Grass
@Daily_Dose_of_Grass Год назад
@Célestin SALMON Oh ok thanks for the advice, guess I should stop listing to those RU-vidrs who mention on putting it for her, "for fun" :)
@vukkicos5688
@vukkicos5688 Год назад
Completely agree. For Skyward Spine I would just like to add that even Cyno can benefit from it because it offers a lot of stats that he wants. One thing that Im bothered with is, with how much more valuable EM has gotten with Dendro, why Freedom Sworn isnt S tier? It can be a great weapon on many em scaling characters while also buffing the team.
@LordEcks
@LordEcks Год назад
I think they're both equally niche...however SoBP is a bit higher rated because 1) it has the highest base damage in the game (tied with Calamity). 2) Gives +24% Atk Speed, something very few characters/weapons/artifacts give. Gives a ton of ATK bonus (+80%)? Redhorn has one of the lowest base damages and a passive focused on defense. The only thing it offers any character other than Itto, Xinyan, and Noelle is the high crit dmg (which other weapons like Blackcliff have). To put it into perspective most Claymore characters can see a high damage benefit from SoBP that isnt apparent in the "math". Characters like Diluc who do a lot of normals for example. And yes, SoBP is good on Sayu simply for the stupid high base damage and +80% atk, since Sayu scales on ATK. However its not worth pulling for her unless your that kinda giga-whale since she also can scale off of EM with constellations as 11chip11 mentioned.
@dtexdarkus
@dtexdarkus Год назад
The key of khaj-nisut is a clear cut case for the 1-2 character tier, as it’s only really good on 2 characters and borderline useless for everyone else
@gamestory2834
@gamestory2834 Год назад
It's really good on 3 characters, and if HP scaling will be a big thing in Fountain it will likely be good for even more characters.
@Barvystyk
@Barvystyk Год назад
Nilou Kuki Layla Bennet Ayato copium
@dtexdarkus
@dtexdarkus Год назад
@@gamestory2834 If the third character is Layla, there are better weapons for her personal damage and Fav is far superior as a support
@NycKFetzer
@NycKFetzer Год назад
I do agree with you, but as he stated, the weapon buffs a lot your entire team, just like nahidas weapon although her weapon's buff is a lot more situational than Nilou's so I think it actually deserves A tier
@centvire7035
@centvire7035 Год назад
@@Barvystyk Ayato not copium. If build for dendro reaction BiS.
@christopherflorez9930
@christopherflorez9930 Год назад
Eula’s weapon should be in niche spot
@HailAzathoth
@HailAzathoth Год назад
Eh not really, it's insane base attack and passive can make it good on characters who can't use phys damage bonus.
@Balls3829
@Balls3829 Год назад
@@HailAzathoth only used by Xinyan and Eula. Even then Xinyan has better and a wide variety of alternatives. Meaning it’s only Eula who used this niche weapon.
@Larkian
@Larkian Год назад
@@Balls3829 3 Eula, Razor and Xinyan
@Dylanfrias24
@Dylanfrias24 Год назад
@@Larkian razors best team thunder Fury doesn't use attack impact.
@Larkian
@Larkian Год назад
@@Dylanfrias24 i said it's an option. It's just the best for the few that still play Phys Razor
@DraxtOs
@DraxtOs Год назад
The Eula Weapon Song of Broken Pines should also be in the niche tier, not?
@ryangarde6422
@ryangarde6422 Год назад
It should be
@Daltemir1
@Daltemir1 Год назад
Lost Prayer should probably be higher, due to it being a good stat stick even though you cannot get the most out of it, due to the field-time requirement. Skyward harp should be higher as well, it's still really good for fischl, yoimiya and decent on ganyu, childe, tighnari and yelan.
@zaimieyy
@zaimieyy Год назад
this tier list is meant to guide people to decide which you should pull. you dont actually spend to pull on standard banner, do you?
@Daltemir1
@Daltemir1 Год назад
@@zaimieyy Yeah I was gonna edit in that part, but then IRL problems appeared and I stopped caring.
@ash-2650
@ash-2650 Год назад
I think nahid BIS is also a decent weapon on Sucrose. And she can also share em with he ability.
@christhis5453
@christhis5453 Год назад
I agree. Can also be used by hyperbloom Lisa and burgeon Klee and Yanfei.
@Antigen__
@Antigen__ Год назад
Sacfrags is just infinitely more useful because of the skill CD reset, honestly. Nothing else comes close.
@joeltoomer3332
@joeltoomer3332 Год назад
@@Antigen__ I'd agree if her skill only had one charge but it has two so extra 'em will won't hurt.
@simplyawful543
@simplyawful543 Год назад
​@@joeltoomer3332 She only has 2 at c1
@arahaitham123
@arahaitham123 Год назад
Yeah, I don't understand why he argue Nilou Sig is that high when it's good for 2 character, and the other are cryo sword for fridge comp? And then Djin Lamp is lower position?
@walter1824
@walter1824 Год назад
IWTL back at it... It`s a no brainer that Mistspliter > Jade Cutter in almost every possible way And the difference between Aqua and Hunter is only 8% elemental DMG but they are in different tiers...
@Cilibi
@Cilibi Год назад
I watched someone use the Key to turn c2 Ayaka into a support for melt Diluc. It was a pure hp/er build on Tenacity. It was wild
@Kris-nw1xz
@Kris-nw1xz Год назад
🧢
@savagebiker1879
@savagebiker1879 Год назад
💀
@ripsleepschedule
@ripsleepschedule Год назад
ive also seen someone use hutao's A1 talent passive to boost scara's crit rate by 12%, honestly respects to the off meta players' determination to find any way to boost their mains' dmg
@unexpectednoone534
@unexpectednoone534 Год назад
It's viable but I think instructor set/freedom sworn is better if you gonna make Ayaka as support.
@ZoRowArk3
@ZoRowArk3 Год назад
The only thing I want to mention is that we don't even know if we'll ever be able to get Tighnari's and Dehya's Weapons again, since they probably won't get a Rate Up Banner anytime soon since they joined the Standard Banner 5 Stars. Also Wolf's Gravestone in "Usable but not worth pulling" is kinda funny to me since you can't exactly aim for it specifically 😅
@MrPimentel12
@MrPimentel12 Год назад
i agree with mostly everything, but I would move Eula's Song of Broken pines either a tier or 2 lower. It's not good on a lot of characters, and it got powercrept by Dehya's weapon even for Eula.
@elgato5921
@elgato5921 Год назад
I don't think sobp deals less damage than dehya's weapon on Eula
@MrPimentel12
@MrPimentel12 Год назад
It deals more clickbait damage, but deals less overall dps, because of how much more crit you can get
@cloudwalker9572
@cloudwalker9572 Год назад
@@elgato5921 It does lower dps to use broken pines. 33.1 crit rate is no joke. It's like adding 66.2 crit damage to a character compared to the 20% or so physical damage it's less effective. Atk is comparable, higher base stat but bigger bonus on beacon. And beacon makes Eula way easier to build.
@elgato5921
@elgato5921 Год назад
@@cloudwalker9572 yeah I see. The main stat is the main point here, surely it makes so much easier to build Eula, but IMO that "clickbait damage" is actually the main source of Eula's damage, because of how her burst works, so if you have godly artifacts sobp becomes the best in slot. But the 99% of times it isn't the case so.... Yeah guys I agree, overall the beacon is better
@genevievemccluer7503
@genevievemccluer7503 Год назад
Staff of scarlet sands can in some situations even beat out Homa on Hu Tao, it certainly isn't "Not that great on Hu Tao"
@aapee565
@aapee565 Год назад
It also makes itemization easier. With Homa you get c.dmg from both her ascension and weapon for a 5 - 175 crit ratio before artifacts. Even with a main stat circlet Hu Tao turns into the worst crit rate junkie in the game, with optimally something like 12% c.rate on non circlet artifacts. With Scarlet, you start with a 50 - 115 crit ratio, which is way easier to optimize for. In general, you will be able to get better substats with equal investment.
@tencive5749
@tencive5749 Год назад
Nahidas weap is also now the BiS for Sucrose as well due to the absurd Em It gives her, and thru her passive, the entire team
@ryangarde6422
@ryangarde6422 Год назад
And that is why its a niche weap
@FZBck
@FZBck Год назад
It took me a long time to get sac fragments for my sucrose and I can't play with her without it, the extra energy sac gives with the extra skill is so valuable to me even though I have nahida weapon.
@unexpectednoone534
@unexpectednoone534 Год назад
Ttds≥Sacrifical>Widsth>Nahida weapon. Nahida weapon buff is kinda small in exchange of no downtime.
@joe_simon
@joe_simon Год назад
I think this video needs two lists to show the difference between powerlevel and value. The Kej is a really powerful weapon on few chars. But the overall value of the weapon is really limited which lowers the value a lot. I think doing power vs. value next to each other could help some people to understand why some weapons that seems powerful are on the lower value list.
@Ndiyafhi
@Ndiyafhi Год назад
The key of khaj should’ve been in the “1-2 character” tier. Your argument for putting it in the A tier should’ve been applied to Redhorn. And even then, redhorn is much more universal due to crit dmg being used by almost every character whereas not too many characters scale off of hp. Just my thoughts tho. Also wsg should be higher or maybe even switch places with broken pines. Although broken pines is good on physical characters(the few of them), all of them can use wsg and it performs almost as good as broken pines but the deciding factor for me atleast is that bit can be used by more characters. Although it may not be their bis, it still is much more usable than broken pines
@gamestory2834
@gamestory2834 Год назад
It has 3 characters it is great for (Nilou, Kuki and Layla), so I don't see how it would fit in there.
@Ndiyafhi
@Ndiyafhi Год назад
@@gamestory2834 I understand but to put it over redhorn (of which can be used by most characters decently and the 2 perfectly) just doesn’t make sense so putting khaj there too would fall in line
@aidescal8
@aidescal8 Год назад
The EM-scaled buff in Charged Shots with the Hunter's Path bow is also a nice boost for an on-field Diona, specifically the C4 quick-release charged shots while having the +200 EM from the burst of C6 Diona. Pair this with a Shenhe cryo buff quill or Xiangling/Dehya's off-field Pyro attacks to enable Diona to be played offensively.
@chezya97
@chezya97 Год назад
Diona has stupid ICD on her charged shots, so it makes only 50% of attacks melted
@dajalsejakdini
@dajalsejakdini Год назад
I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!
@stinky1774
@stinky1774 Год назад
Wolfs gravestone is good as a support weapon, should be higher because of its passive, not the same tier as aquila
@TacticalDimples
@TacticalDimples Год назад
It’s not that good. Your support usually wants Favonious and attack buffs are generally easy to get through other means and are not that useful on Dendro teams.
@HoaNguyen-bu6zf
@HoaNguyen-bu6zf Год назад
Aquila is one of the best options for bennet and is a solid option for ayaka or keqing if you only have other 4 star swords. Those 3 characters are enough to make it where it is
@ryangarde6422
@ryangarde6422 Год назад
Its passive is very hard to proc lol, only activating if the enemy is only at 30% hp left if im right, you are better off with ttds instead
@stinky1774
@stinky1774 Год назад
@@HoaNguyen-bu6zf please dont try to justify aquila because im aquila hater number 1, that weapon is so useless, yea bennett can get a really high base attack but you will suffer energy problems, i stopped using it because of that, and also for Ayaka the blacksmith sword is better because, also, helps you with energy, that weapon is made for no one
@cybremystica93
@cybremystica93 Год назад
Skyward blade deserves to be higher cause of the ER passive…it’s great on Jean, Qiqi and bennett
@jerryg3652
@jerryg3652 Год назад
Nice. This is going to be interesting because I haven't played for >1.5 years. Just came back to the game
@josh-on5kp
@josh-on5kp Год назад
Yo same dude
@kcgirl578_5
@kcgirl578_5 Год назад
Welcome Back!
@Balls3829
@Balls3829 Год назад
I’d take this Tier list with a huge grain of salt then lol.
@sumitkhatri8210
@sumitkhatri8210 Год назад
Feels good to have pulled on the Weapon banner 4 times(won all of them) as a F2P and 3 of them are S tier. I got Amos, Aqua, Beacon of reed sea, and Mistsplitter.
@jamin4109
@jamin4109 Год назад
Not you forgetting that Qiqi scales on attack again....
@janniko6681
@janniko6681 Год назад
Key could have been more universal if the passive party wide buff can trigger off-field. Specially now that there are only 5 weapon that can buff the party.
@Balls3829
@Balls3829 Год назад
Key of Nut, Engulfing lightning and Broken pines should be niche. Skyward Harp, Atlas and Wolfs gravestone should be moved up to A. Almost all units in the game can make use of these weapons. Nahidas weapon could arguably be A tier considering it can be with by Yae(Dendro), Nahida, Lisa and Sucrose.
@apanaama3703
@apanaama3703 Год назад
EL is good on 3 characters, and any that needs a ton of ER. It ain't niche. I have an account without Hutao, I'd rather get an EL than a Homa. And the Homa I got by accident is still Lv1. And I'd rather use Catch than Homa on XL. I have PJWS so Homa is near useless there too if I had Xiao, because PJWS does more dmg when using Bennett (or most healers) than Homa. The only other users for Homa were ZL/Rosaria who rather use Fav Lance. If you check the Chinese speedrun leaderboard (Musk Reed) for 3.5, EL has the highest appearance for spears, followed by Catch.
@matchaww218
@matchaww218 Год назад
Engulfing is not niche, you can use EL for shenhe, rosaria, xiangling, raiden, yaoyao
@deltaspecies1697
@deltaspecies1697 Год назад
8:00 thats wrong. Scarlet sands acually perfroms as good as homa and even better than homa on some scenarios on hutao. Keep in mind hutao's blood blossom (the flower thingy) is considered skill dmg and it can be used to stack scarlet sands passive fully.
@gamestory2834
@gamestory2834 Год назад
This, although my impression is that it's only a little worse than Homa. No idea why he claimed that it wasn't good for Hu Tao.
@darkdragonx650
@darkdragonx650 Год назад
yeah honestly his tier lists are a joke to most meta players but this tier list was actually the most biased and barely researched tier list lmao
@TheMaxi125
@TheMaxi125 Год назад
Nahida’s BiS can be very good on Aggravate Lisa and Yae. Still not enough to move it up on the tier list but it´s another use for it.
@achannel2773
@achannel2773 Год назад
LETS GOOOO ive been waiting for this
@uniquesence
@uniquesence Год назад
Thanks for the vid!!! 😊
@hellsing3169
@hellsing3169 Год назад
I was saving for SOBP for eula but I got the beacon unexpectedly and it was perfect for her. Even if dehya was lackluster, her weapon is top tier.
@4RedJohn
@4RedJohn Год назад
The thing about The Key of Khaj-Nisut is that for its party wide buff to work, you need your character on field stacking it three times (as it doesn't stack off-field). It obviously works great for Nilou, but for Shinobu and Layla? Not so much, as you just want to use their E's and switch to other characters, not remain on them for the next 5 seconds. Shinobu needs her c4 specifically to apply the stacks faster and even then, she has to waste her time on the burst animation. I really wouldn't put it that high in that tier, or in that tier at all...
@jamesjarrett5499
@jamesjarrett5499 Год назад
C4 shinobu allows you to hit 3 times with skill in quick succession. On skill use, on hit (c4) and on skill proc. It’s very very good on her.
@LizardKingRequiem
@LizardKingRequiem Год назад
Im glad all the sumeru desert set weapons are proving their worth, even tho they all look the same im quite fond of their particular design 💛
@tokyo-sz4zd
@tokyo-sz4zd Год назад
They were meant to look similar because it’s almost like a set. Even older weapons have such themes such as Xiao’s spear and Primordial Jade Cutter. Eula’s weapon and Kazuha’s weapon, etc. And there’s actually very interesting lore behind each weapon set.
@LizardKingRequiem
@LizardKingRequiem Год назад
@@tokyo-sz4zd no, they literally have the exact same design just reshaped. Its not just “the same aesthetic” its the same.
@pixel-storm5442
@pixel-storm5442 Год назад
@@LizardKingRequiem That's kinda the point... You should know better than to start arguing over word choices.
@pashugamez
@pashugamez Год назад
I dislike them because for example in nilous case I do t think they fit very well but that's just my opinion
@Antigen__
@Antigen__ Год назад
@@LizardKingRequiem Dude, what? All the weapons of a particular set have the same color palette and overall design. Look at Elegy, Freedom-Sworn, and Song of Broken Pines. Or take a look at Vortex Vanquisher, Summit Shaper, Memory of Dust, and Unforged. Now we have the Sumeru series (Hunter's Path, Floating Dreams, Light) and the desert series (Staff, Beacon, Key). It's the exact same behavior we've been seeing forever. If you need another example, the Inazuma series (Mistsplitter, Pulse, Engulfing, Kagura's)
@whiteflash27
@whiteflash27 Год назад
Hey @IWTL! Loved the list and I'm happy to see some of my favourite weapons ranked highly hehe. However I feel like the 'niche' tier creates a lot of confusion since it's debatable which weapons can be considered 'niche' or particular to just 1 to 2 characters. Maybe if you get rid of the niche tier but add 'how wide-use is it?' as a metric in the ranking, it will reflect on a tier list more clearly. Just a suggestion! Love your content, long time watcher here! :D
@NeoSlashott
@NeoSlashott Год назад
I wish Sumeru Weapons like Scarlet Sands, Nisut and Reed Sea are standard and 50 50 pullable. Just like Skyward sets etc. 😭
@sensibleDuck893
@sensibleDuck893 Год назад
I don't think weapons should be ranked based on whether the character its best for is meta or not. It should be based on how much value an account gets when they get that weapon. Like I value Polar Star more than Aqua since if you don't have Yelan , then Polar Star is much more universal weapon for most bow characters than Aqua is. Similarly, for an Account if you don't have Hu tao , then SSS is better pull than Staff of Homa since its better on Xiangling who everyone has , its better weapon for Rosaria who needs Crit rate for crit rate share passive and also for Melt Rosaria.
@ryangarde6422
@ryangarde6422 Год назад
Disagree, if that is his bases then beacon should have been on the lowest tier since its dehya's bis lol, aqua is also a very universal bow, very good for childe, melt ganyu, fischl, yoimiya, and such, its better than polar star imo
@lollol-nu4qq
@lollol-nu4qq Год назад
Light of follar incision should be higher it had double crit damage than mitspliter
@vZedde
@vZedde Год назад
the tier list is pretty solid, great video
@4_rol4
@4_rol4 Год назад
Eula casually hitting for 4M in the back 😂
@Daily_Dose_of_Grass
@Daily_Dose_of_Grass Год назад
I guess 4M isn't meta for him? 🥲
@banjoowo4001
@banjoowo4001 Год назад
Its c6 and the damage is back loaded and ofcourse physical which is pretty much useless for breaking shields
@bhuviking18
@bhuviking18 Год назад
​@@Daily_Dose_of_Grass it isn't
@asianKirby_0
@asianKirby_0 Год назад
​@@Daily_Dose_of_Grass Even 1m is unrealistic for c0 Eula. My highest as f2p is 470k.
@Tnscla
@Tnscla Год назад
That boss takes more dmg tho.
@11shoe
@11shoe Год назад
Seriously just watched your older video yesterday and was thinking "It would be awesome if there was an update" Haha!
@markchang5285
@markchang5285 Год назад
Nice video as always! Didn't you have a separate tier list for R5 weapons?
@wowitsportal5225
@wowitsportal5225 Год назад
Would love if you did a video talking about the weapon banner exclusive 4 star weapons
@mattsopiratoso790
@mattsopiratoso790 Год назад
I don't think WGS needed to be brought down that much. I never saw WGS as a DPS claymore anyway, it just forcefeeds you ATK until you drown from diminishing returns. It's mostly an Amazing support weapon and a good Claymore for Diluc if you have EM hourglass instead of ATK%.
@Balls3829
@Balls3829 Год назад
It’s a pretty universal weapon. Aside from the def% scalers. I’ve no idea why it’s been nuked all the way down. And from what it appears, there seems to be some personal grudge against the standard 5* weapon lineup.
@mattsopiratoso790
@mattsopiratoso790 Год назад
@Akky Haych Well compared to other DPS weapons it is inferior. But, I don't even think of it as a DPS Claymore anymore, its just a very good Support Claymore. That's why it's shouldn't be that down. It's a bellow average Claymore for DPS, sure, but alot of Claymore Supports can use this Claymore.
@Balls3829
@Balls3829 Год назад
@@mattsopiratoso790 it’s an offensive claymore with a supportive passive. Meaning you get the best of both worlds. I see no reason for the weapon to be this low though. It’s not really outclassed by anything when it’s on top of the game in terms of claymore weapon.
@mattsopiratoso790
@mattsopiratoso790 Год назад
@Akky Haych The only reason is if it's based off DPS importance. Since there are not many good Claymore sups and 5 Star weapons are mostly for DPS or Sub-DPS. The other reason is also that WGS as I said, is a Claymore with too much Attack. Therefore, for DPS, you'd be better off with any other 5 Star Claymore as a massive upgrade to the WGS, that is at best, above average. (besides Unforged, fuck that shitty Claymore)
@yuri_since_2021
@yuri_since_2021 Год назад
I have 5 5* weapons on my almost ar58 account. 2 skyward blades and skyward harp (from standard), redhorn that i got in a random 10 pull and aqua simulacra that i actually was pulling for. I had never pulled on the weapon banner before december of last year, and altho i dont have itto, im so glad i got yelans weapon, was super worth it!
@huaping7266
@huaping7266 Год назад
still gonna pull for LoFi on its rerun bc it has a cute visual effect when its passive is active (it looks like a sprout🌱). I used to pull weaps for its stats and strong passive, but being AR60 for a year and a half now, I realized that 4* and craftable weaps aren't so bad to do abyss.
@geogodzhongli
@geogodzhongli Год назад
i remember i used to play the first archer cat game on the bus to school back in 2013 lmao
@candycane8106
@candycane8106 Год назад
it can troublesome to get all stacks on mistsplitter, can be placed lower in a tier bc it requires either self infusion or using c6 bennett/chongyun/candace
@luke-il5nr
@luke-il5nr Год назад
Why move staff of homa down and jade cutter up when they are basically the same weapon?
@shadowlukagamer5628
@shadowlukagamer5628 Год назад
Jade cutter removes the need for crit rate
@verzetta
@verzetta Год назад
Harder to utilize the
@Barvystyk
@Barvystyk Год назад
@@shadowlukagamer5628 Cymo signature weapon does the same
@GladiusCC
@GladiusCC Год назад
Jade cutter has 22 more crit value, and it removes the requirement for below 50% hp attack buff. A truely universal stat stick that most sword users can utilize. Only weapon that comes close is mist splitter. (With 44 less crit value and a conditional damage percent buff that only a few sword users can fully utilize)
@jy1178
@jy1178 Год назад
​@@GladiusCC Aqua, Hunters Path, and Light of Foliar Incision all have the same crit value as PJC and have better passives, yet are lower on the list. This tier lists honestly makes no sense.
@jinminchoi838
@jinminchoi838 Год назад
Funny coz I was just looking through Iwintolose's weapon tier list videos last night and wondered when he will update his list.
@Phoenix-il5hc
@Phoenix-il5hc Год назад
I think people really dont read or underestimate Key of Kaj nisut or dont think enough to understand. It gives 140-150 em in nilou team to whole party which is pretty much a gamechanger for nilou teams, and gives around 350em to nilou herself (along with 88% hp) Another thing that makes this weapon amazing is that in spread (or quicken) teams .. it can give upto 140 em to everyone (nahida, tighnari, yae, fishl, alhaitham) if equipped on tripple hp kuki (which is ok in quicken teams), it is as good if not better than elegy there.
@unsuspectingman
@unsuspectingman Год назад
I always love weapon tier lists
@sentryion3106
@sentryion3106 Год назад
I kinda regret not going for the homa and simulaca banner. Next patch looks to be Amos and dendro donut and floating dream and key which are fine but not anywhere near the level of the homa simulacra combo
@edishasora5200
@edishasora5200 Год назад
I got homa in 10pull without having hutao 😂
@banjoowo4001
@banjoowo4001 Год назад
It was once in a life time banner, why didn't you go for it? I doubt we will ever get these type of weapon banner ever again
@sentryion3106
@sentryion3106 Год назад
@@banjoowo4001 it just really glossed my mind so I competent forgot about the weapon banner since it’s been so long since I last rolled on it. Plus I already have homa.
@banjoowo4001
@banjoowo4001 Год назад
@@sentryion3106 oh then it was fine , if you have homa there was no need to pull
@Zarya.
@Zarya. Год назад
My take on aqua, its a great weapon, if only the bow characters were more popular. Yelan is basically the only character that can really use the weapon, and though she has a lot of damage, she is still an off fielder meaning her damage contribution is still going to be lower than your main dps in most cases making pulling for the weapon not as efficient. As for other bow characters, yoimiya ganyu and tignari, they arent as meta and they have amos which is a standard banner weapon and is basically same in strength and yoimiya has rust which is a 4* and with how aquas passive works the weapons damage output evens out in the longterm. Last to say, fischl is a great user of aqua, but again being an offield character, the damage you gain overall is not as significant. So yes, aqua is a generalistic good weapon, but it has too many nuances so that justifying it to be the premier weapon to pull very hard, imo mistsplitter homa and kaguras are better weapons just because sword spear and catalyst characters are more prevalent
@nd6096
@nd6096 Год назад
Childe is Pretty popular in CN abyss usage rate, having around 40% usage rate and 20-30% more usage rate than Ganyu always. And Aqua is great on him.
@This_Origami
@This_Origami Год назад
how is song of broken pines not moved down the list for the same reasons other did
@rizzttv7791
@rizzttv7791 Год назад
Since we will always have double character banner, its impossible for Beacon and Hunter's path to be a featured weapon banner. In a sense they are no longer obtainable in the game by any mean (unless hoyo add them into standard pool). Am I right in this ? The other weapon with this treatment is probably Memory of Dust and Unforged which make them probably the real Limited 5 star weapon.
@doppiossparefrogphone1906
@doppiossparefrogphone1906 Год назад
This tier list gave me explosive diahrrea. Hard watch as always, thanks king!
@thechaosofcaffeine
@thechaosofcaffeine Год назад
i'm surprised that eula's weapon didn't get put down a tier owo this was a cool video though!
@pratyanshverma2801
@pratyanshverma2801 Год назад
I was really waiting for it😅
@pratyanshverma2801
@pratyanshverma2801 Год назад
But i do not play genshin now😂😂
@salayy
@salayy Год назад
Aqua simulacra is great, but it lacks base attack, i have homa mistsplitter and aqua, over all i think aqua falls below both weapons, i feel like homa should be higher in s tier, cause its bis for sub dps zhongli, hutao, and it works on basically every character dealing dmg
@RiptideFlash
@RiptideFlash Год назад
If you use Bennett with whoever uses Aqua ( let's exclude Yelan ), the low base attack shouldn't be a problem at all. Plus it lacks base attack for a chance of being too overpowered, which Hoyo ofc won't do with weapons.
@salayy
@salayy Год назад
@@RiptideFlash yeah you are correct, but the thing is aqua isn't versatile that much, whilst mistsplitter and homa can be used on way more characters, aqua is only bis for yelan, if you dont have yelan then its better to go for other weapons the only thing keeping this weapon great is the amount of crit dmg it gives, ig you can use it with an atk circlet
@aatb3719
@aatb3719 Год назад
​@@salayy aqua is good on most bow characters wdym?
@salayy
@salayy Год назад
@@aatb3719 its only good on yelan ( her bis ) ganyu and childe. yoimiya and tighnari have better options, and im just saying that it shouldnt be higher than mistsplitter and homa cause they work on almost everyone
@IanIDV
@IanIDV Год назад
Homa should be below Elegy with Jade right behind it imo. Everyone says Jade Cutter is universal, but the only character I ever wanna use it on is Ayato. There aren't any other good main dps sword characters I can think of that actually want it plus it's usually just as good or better to just give a favonius to supports. Homa feels like it works on more characters that are actually good, like Hu Tao, Zhongli, Xiao, and Xiangling
@AndreAlencarLP
@AndreAlencarLP Год назад
A Thousand Floating Dreams kind of works on Yae too. I've pulled it before getting Kagura's verity and it's nice on aggravate Yae
@mohtesib
@mohtesib Год назад
Yep i needed this thanks
@uso6844
@uso6844 Год назад
For a moment there i thought the Title say “ UPSATED Weapon tier list “ 😭
@luke-il5nr
@luke-il5nr Год назад
Because it was, he changed it later
@daviduser779
@daviduser779 Год назад
I think Wolf's gravestone is still as the same only because this claymore was for limited time and now it's impossible to get it. Since dehya wanna be a standard banner character... There is no point of changing a old weapon's rank of the new weapon is better but you can't get it again if you missed it once.
@amirul3233
@amirul3233 Год назад
8:26 I think the buff from Key of Khaj-Nisut is considerably huge. Let's calculate it shall we: For Kuki (assume 30k HP) personal buff: (0.12% x 3) x 30000 = 108 EM For Kuki buffing her teammates: (0.2% x 3) x 30000 = 180 EM For Nilou (assume 60k HP) personal buff: (0.12% x 3) x 60000 = 216 EM For Nilou buffing her teammates: (0.2% x 3) x 60000 = 360 EM! 360 EM is the largest EM buff I've heard in this game. It's crazy. No wonder IWTL put it on the higher rank of A tier.
@angelomiesa5101
@angelomiesa5101 Год назад
"Staff of Scarlet Sands is not that good on Hutao" and then it's literally her second best option
@Dusk225
@Dusk225 Год назад
So glad I pulled for mistsplitter and aqua
@ChrisART727
@ChrisART727 Год назад
I personally think that Vortex Vanquisher should a 1 or 2 tiers higher maybe in "pull only for 1-2 characters" just because of how it can benefit Shenhe, the stacks are very easy to obtain and keep up with just her burst especially with c2, from my testing it can almost keep up with Calamity Queller with max stacks and the protected by shield buff with around 20 atk difference, without the protected by shield buff it sadly falls down to Calamity Quellers atk without its passive, overall it might not be a great weapon but if it should ever be on a banner and you want to upgrade your shenhes atk it is a nice choice and deserves at least c-b rank.
@thanatos7085
@thanatos7085 Год назад
I have no idea why Song of Broken Pines is in A tier while LoFI is in situational.
@jerson.romantico.1521
@jerson.romantico.1521 Год назад
I agree with the video, there are weapons that are strong but they are for particular pjs that if you don't use them, they are not so useful in other pjs, that's why homa and amos were the best weapons along with the jade sword 😷
@noelpenkeki6796
@noelpenkeki6796 Год назад
I feel like Lost Prayers is still a really good weapon for on-field dps users, like for example Nahida (on-field) or scara
@annettegarde2636
@annettegarde2636 Год назад
Sadly widsith is better for an on field nahida, lost prayer is really only good on characters who doesnt want to leave the field, like klee, nahida on the other hand, even as an on field driver, still needs to switch out every now and then, resetting lost prayers buff
@Violate..
@Violate.. Год назад
the only thing making lost prayers bad is the 8 seconds wait time for each stack and u cant swap off else it would reset
@guidomista5738
@guidomista5738 Год назад
Things I like about Dehya: Her weapon Music in her ost
@josephhenriquedelarabarret8072
The funny part is that Dehya and tighnari weapon prob wont ever come back, since there wont be new banners for these two characters and we are always getting double banners, so the two weapons available on weapon banner will always be the signature weapons for the two 5 stars on event banners. Albedo and Klee dont have signature, but they are sword and catalyst chars... So we have to wait until a single banner pops up and hope to Dehya or Tigs Weapon to appear on the banner :)
@moonsblossom
@moonsblossom Год назад
It's a possibility that Hunter's Path come back with Ganyu banner
@josephhenriquedelarabarret8072
@@moonsblossom dont think they will do that cause amos bow is her signature, also leaks are not pointing to that, but i would love if they removed dumb amos bow from standard and put the chad hunters path in its place
@Lilp2020
@Lilp2020 Год назад
Is Lost Prayer really all that bad? I don't own it but on paper it looks like a good general usage weapon similar to Jade Cutter. Also based on the list there's only one catalyst in the worth pulling tier. We should at least have something else worth pull for other than only a number 1 catalyst.
@Kikkia2018
@Kikkia2018 Год назад
I’ve never wished on the weapon banner, I’m chilling with one 5 star (Amos) that I don’t even use cause the character it’s on isn’t on my main two teams. Idk why I’m here but I’ll use this when I eventually give in to the gacha for better damage 😅
@TsuchiGamer06
@TsuchiGamer06 Год назад
Pulled Aqua when I went for Homa, but im not upset. I'll just wait for a really good bow character for it. I have the BP weapon for Tiggy and Prototype for my Ganyu rn anyway with good stats
@0rganic0live0il2
@0rganic0live0il2 Год назад
Sometimes a weapon can be amazing on a character but you also gotta consider how amazing that character is. For that reason I find it odd that the Beacon of the Reed Sea is above Homa considering that the characters who can use it arent generally as good as the characters that can use homa. also there is a lot more characters that can use homa.
@darkdragonx650
@darkdragonx650 Год назад
His tier list is kinda bullshit considering his reasoning for key being that high was nilou and kuki being very good but then completely disregarded the best characters for beacon literally being beidou and eula and eulas best c0 team is hyper fridge in single target
@arahaitham123
@arahaitham123 Год назад
​​@@darkdragonx650 hyperfridge works on eula? Shatter doesn't ruin the reaction?
@darkdragonx650
@darkdragonx650 Год назад
@@arahaitham123 its her best team even tho she's not very good in it... That's the saddest part
@unexpectednoone534
@unexpectednoone534 Год назад
Staff of Scarlet sand is now the best generalist polearm so I think that's the reason homa got lower a bit. I think his logic on making tierlist is how many char is bis those 5 star weapon or how much your acct will benefit from those weapon. Beacon is now Bis for Diluc, f2p or low investment Eula, Dehya, Beidou,and Razor or any atk scaling claymore users. Some I mentioned are quite meta too like Eula and Beidou while Hutao is meta but she's kinda niche char when you think about it. My Xiangling or c6Diluc can beat Hutao cleartime on aoe scenarios.
@darkdragonx650
@darkdragonx650 Год назад
@@unexpectednoone534 see the thing is with that exact logic, key shouldn't be in A tier. Iwtl's entire reasoning for putting key so high is that nilou and kuki are very strong units. He didn't even consider the fact that key isn't the BiS for basically any other sword user. Layla would much prefer fav and qiqi would rather use fav or sac sword cuz of her ridiculous energy problems. Literally no other characters would rather use key
@alejandraruiz5031
@alejandraruiz5031 Год назад
Upload time was in seconds. Nice!
@yukinon3977
@yukinon3977 Год назад
No idea how harp is placed lower than jade winged spear, amos, pines, key and calamity
@danielspain2883
@danielspain2883 Год назад
Proud to say I only have weapons from the highest tier and I’m only missing elegy and dehyas weapon.
@Kat-37i9
@Kat-37i9 Год назад
I'm still so salty I lost the 25/75 on Jade cutter/Key banner. I would've made used of either of those two swords and who knows when we'll get an hp scaling four or three star sword :(
@megumi90
@megumi90 Год назад
I have 1 mistspliter should I pull another one for alhaitham or wait for jade cutter
@candyloverthegreat871
@candyloverthegreat871 Год назад
Have you done a four star weapon tier list?
@mikedockal8978
@mikedockal8978 Год назад
Is there an actual list with weapon names? I don't recognize them all by pictures.
@Alatyreon
@Alatyreon Год назад
I love the Eula closeup in the end. Thank you!
@insertnamehere2022
@insertnamehere2022 Год назад
Nilou key not being in the "pull only for 1-2 characters" tier makes no sense its literally only for kuki and nilou 💀
@Gennosuke1983
@Gennosuke1983 Год назад
And apparently Bennett lol
@insertnamehere2022
@insertnamehere2022 Год назад
@@Gennosuke1983 lmao prioritizing his heal over his atk buff is crazy 😂 He heals more than enough with Aquila
@Gennosuke1983
@Gennosuke1983 Год назад
@@insertnamehere2022 I mean, I didn't even consider Key for him lol, but it's mentioned in the video. I'm using Aquila, but for people that don't have it, I guess it's an option. This or Skyward Blade, you switch your timepiece to HP% or ER%, depending on what you have
@joeltoomer3332
@joeltoomer3332 Год назад
@@insertnamehere2022 it not about its heals it's about the em share. In reaction teams key is best in slot because it buff the team reaction damage the most thanks to its passive
@insertnamehere2022
@insertnamehere2022 Год назад
@@Gennosuke1983 you always go ER sands he really doesn’t need a ton of hp he heals enough as it is
@criccode2993
@criccode2993 Год назад
Will a thousand floating dream be better than sac frags for nilou bloom kokomi?
@lamorthonyfairyfriend4082
@lamorthonyfairyfriend4082 Год назад
I wished the Akashi system let you sort Kazu stats by Xipho’s moonlight, not just freedom sword. Kazu’s signature doesn’t give er.
@iamannyyaa
@iamannyyaa Год назад
key and light of foliar incision need to put in the same tier (pull only)
@SupremeShott
@SupremeShott Год назад
Aqua, Hunters Path, and Light of Foliar Incision all have the same crit value as PJC and have better passives, yet are lower on the list. You can even argue this same thing for Staff of Scarlet Sands. Key and SOBP are literally on good/usuable on a very few amount of characters, but are in the A tier category somehow. This tier list honestly makes no sense and could have been researched a lot better.
@degurechaff6617
@degurechaff6617 Год назад
In Diluc teams with Bennett isn't Redhorn still better then Beacon? I believe speed runners still use Redhorn. Plz correct me if I'm wrong.
@gmwowk4286
@gmwowk4286 Год назад
Redhorn should be one tier higher because its good on a lot of charcs it can be used on eula diluc chongyun bis for itto bis for noelle bis for xinyan
@Nikkikkikkiz
@Nikkikkikkiz Год назад
10:00 Nahida catalyst is for Yae Miko. Yae Miko is good with EM and damage% bonus
@Balls3829
@Balls3829 Год назад
Yae Miko(Dendro teams), sucrose, Nahida, and possibly Lisa too if you’re using her for hyperbloom. Yet it’s placed lower than Nilou’s weapon? Ironic since her weapon is really only viable on 2 characters. (Nilou and Layla).
@chaos_omega_zero
@chaos_omega_zero Год назад
I hope those signature weapon of new standard banner characters be available in the future.
@licirayy
@licirayy Год назад
I LOVE YOUR CHANNEL SO MUCH UR THE BEST GENSHIN RU-vidR AWGSGWHSD
@insertcoolnamelater9334
@insertcoolnamelater9334 Год назад
Skyward Blade is really great in Benny, I don't get why it's so low.
@HoaNguyen-bu6zf
@HoaNguyen-bu6zf Год назад
Bennet can use any weapon bc he's too easy to build. There's no reason to put it higher than that other than it being a good but no way must have for bennet
@insertcoolnamelater9334
@insertcoolnamelater9334 Год назад
@@HoaNguyen-bu6zf Bennett wants high base ATK and ER, that's why Skyward works so good on him
@HoaNguyen-bu6zf
@HoaNguyen-bu6zf Год назад
@@insertcoolnamelater9334 he does, but his buff is too good you dont need to have any specific weapon. Any works. I even use black sword on him and he's still buffing a heffing amount of atk, has 260 ER and does 56k burst. You really dont need to have good weapon on him
@mihir_mohite
@mihir_mohite Год назад
When you're doing tier list keep the tier full screen or at least 70% of screen
@butterfer0808
@butterfer0808 Год назад
My brain is rotting. Bacon above polar star, freedom sworn... Broken Pines above redhorn... The C6 Eula whale bias is strong with this one.
@VothxxMerado
@VothxxMerado Год назад
LoFI on c6 on field burgeon bennett works pretty well ngl
@i.ncendium
@i.ncendium Год назад
I was pulling for cyno’s weapon and got the claymore instead lol i build diluc cuz i had a lot of mora sitting there, the beacon has a new owner xD
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