Upgrade Your Goggles and Take Flight - HDMI Required! // WalkSnail VRx 

Boner maps are the best!

Do the interior WITH the basement!! That would be AWESOME!

I came here to tell nick this track was made. Truly amazing

If it comes to running multiple systems there isn't anything better on the market, even if the multiple doesn't include hdzero video transmission. Its hard to not overstate how flexible these goggles are. Now we need wait out the Chinese holiday to get more hdzero goggles out in the real world.

while latency is much talked about its very individual specific. I find I notice the latency much more in close proximity flying like flying inside. Outside I don't generally notice after the first few flights. If I go from analog or hdzero to walksnail or dji immediately I do notice it outside but through the first battery start to adjust.

just flew a pack analog and walksnail back to back, huge difference, try it. Depends how fast your analog setup is of course too.

@@fearlessflyersfpv420 yeah I did that today and there definitely is a major difference but I'm still addicted to the Walksnail clarity. I've gotten used to the latency. About to upgrade my 3rd quad. Keeping my Tinywhoops analog for now

@@velkrofpv6654 you can get used to almost 400ms latency spikes? not me :) I fly completely different styles analog and walksnail, analog I am a psycho often, and don't crash too much, walksnail I always take it easy, it looks nice, but there is no adrenaline rush, I don't like the crashing for no reason thing that happens with it and hardcore freestyle. Just like Mr Steele runs digital for scenic cruises, and analog for fun freestyle, I will do the same.

Omg year later testing 5 different SD cards. My stupid dji still randomly does sdcard error 🤦🏻‍♂️

DJI buys all other video transmission protocols and merges them. Boy that would be a goggle 4in1.

You and me both!

What version of the firmware are you running?

@@NickBurnsFPV latest as of 1/19. Mine had mis matched versions. Also my Sky04x v1 works on 1080p

yea, crux will handle the extra grams, a 75mm whoop does as well.

Surely the penetration comparison has been done by others by now

DJI wins cause they retransmit. Walksnail wins in all out range.

What characteristic is leaning you that way? Not trying to change your direction just my curiosity.

For me hdzero is just a better company to throw money at

@@NickBurnsFPV it’s the versatility and the mic port. And after watching your review and JB’s. And Botgrinder’s. The more you guys use it the more we learn and it’s great

@@CaptCalgary Gotcha. Thank you for the additional feedback

Ah goggles right? Time is running out for the discounted price!

I have reports 1080p works on others that have v1. Maybe I need to try the update again or there is some other difference not being shared

Yea, I thought that as well. What confused me is it would record pre arm but stop on arming the quad. Super strange. I can't find a solution or explain it.

@@NickBurnsFPV Have you tried switching off „the record on arm“ feature as that was an issue also with the goggles. Then you manually have to push the record button. Don‘t know if this bug was fixed already but I guess if it‘s on the goggles it‘s also on the VRX.

@@McLogo76 That is a normal part of my setup, but a good point to double check as binding between the goggle and the vrx may have reset that setting.

I didn't try auto record, that is traditionally a setting I turn off due to how I record flights with a secondary stationary camera.

@@NickBurnsFPV maybe make a quick test if the recording works then.

I didn't power the vtx separately. I did find this with two quads, one where the vtx is wired to battery pads and the other wired to fc 5volt pad. There is one other comment that also confirmed this behavior. But only that one so far.

yes, we call that "Shane"...long story. Basically I throw it out on the cover then use the attached hose to drag it around, or the electrical cord to drag it back. Really helps to move it around so a small puddle of water doesn't hang around on one side or the other.

Rates are very touchy to find. I use higher rates and have for many years. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-llpHcWQx8q8.html If they feel to sensitive maybe try pinching if your thumbing or if your pinching try thumbing. Then lower the rates if they are still to touchy. We have to keep trying new rates until we find what works for us. One tip if you find your "nose" control lags, flying slightly diagonal sometimes, use a yaw rate that is higher than pitch and roll. I do and it helps me keep the nose/camera headed in the direction of flight.

They sure are. Yes it’s should run 720p 60fps fine

Works fine on my cobra x. 1080/720p60. Screen is still only 720p of course but you can record 1080 (except mine also says no SD).

@@Martoriass Good to know. Thanks.

@@Martoriass Good feedback, but only the first to confirm the "No SD" issue.

@@NickBurnsFPV i read somewhere that it worked if they removed the "automatic recording on arm" and manually started the recording but I haven't had a chance to test it yet :( Edit: I just tested and manually starting the recording with auto record off works fine for 1080p. It keeps recording once armed. So most likely just a bug and not SD-related.

I am not sure. I would think the next whoop iterations would be that way

Unfortunately it was removed from thingiverse or thingiverse isn't showing it now. I get a 404 on the link to it.

lol. The balance of work, family and flying with creating videos is pretty challenging. And recently weather has been another troublespot. I hope we start to see the weather clear some soon. Today isn't terrible 38F winds about 13mph. Gonna try flying when I get home for lunch :)

I run both.... Hdzero latency is better if flying fast proximity in a small space. Walksnail latency for me is too much for speed. If I slow down then yes it's fine

If I go from an hdzero whoop or analog whoop to dji or WS it does take a few packs to adjust, so many crashes during those flights. There is one area of the house with a big latency change, that is down here by my quad area around the HVAC system. The latency really changes right there and I have troubles flying through. That little portion I have to rely on muscle memory rather than my eyes and reaction.

Why switch from o3?

@@Martoriass flight feel wasn’t acceptable to me, but I’m very, very latency sensitive… I tried to make it work but my brain just couldn’t deal with the latency, I guess? And after significant time flying it, I was still struggling and finally gave up. It was a sad day! :( I really, really wanted it to be my next system! Like so bad!!! I put everything into it… It is an ABSOLUTELY AMAZING system, and I’m really sad that I couldn’t make it work for me, because honestly nothing is even close to the image quality… it’s the terrible feel in the air that let me down… and that’s unfortunately a me problem… If YOU can make it work… honestly run it!!! It’s amazing! And I wholeheartedly recommend the O3/G2! The Goggle 2 is really, really impressive! It’s the only way to fly the system, the V2s just don’t cut it, IMO. I’m currently on the HDZero goggle with the Runcam90, with Avatar for long range, and high penetration environments. All the best! Don’t let my experience detract you from O3, it is truly impressive. Everyone should at least try it… but flying with others is also a huge issue with O3… forgot about that. It’s a selfish system :p

@@lemonsquareFPV oh I see :) I just got the ws vrx because I'm still new and don't really want to invest too much money so dji wasn't really interesting, but the since I had goggles the walksnail looked fine. And I sure as hell can't afford the o3 stuff even though it looks really good. So you feel the latency is better on walksnail in general then?

@@Martoriass Avatar feels great in the air honestly, if it wasn’t for the new stuff from HDZero (goggle and 90hz) I would be on Avatar. Really good signal stability, great feel, good enough picture, honestly not much to dislike. Onboard recording is good enough. I really, really like the flight feel and consistent latency, above all. It makes a huge difference for me. And makes it so much more fun to fly. I always struggled with DJI (old and new) as they prioritize pictures quality over latency stability (it always tripped me up, and I never could 100% get used to it)… Avatar does the opposite, and it honestly makes it feel so much better to fly. DJI looks better, especially O3, but flight feel 100% goes to Avatar. I got the VRX combo just to screw around with and ended up loving it. :p crazy how that is, if they didn’t have that super great price I don’t even know if I would have got into it, but I am so glad I did! My experience for reference… My list for flight feel 1=best 5=terrible 1. HDZero goggle 90hz 1.5 60hz on HDZero 1.75 analog racing setup 2. Avatar 3. O3 with G2 3.5 HDZero VRX + DJI V2 4. O3 with V2

@@lemonsquareFPV thanks for all these detailed answers. Have you tried walksnail 720p100?

I am with ya. We have snow today :(

I use a double axii vertically and a single axii horizontal

This isn’t hdzero. I use anything inhave on hand to fill gaps between camera and canopy. There are adapter that come with some nano camera that we can buy separately

Not to my knowledge. No hdmi input on those goggles.

Virtually all fpv quads fly between 2 and 10 minutes. Only the dedicated long range quads do more than that. But you can out fly your video range or your radio range in 2 minutes or less. I'm getting 3-3.5 mins on my 1s 75mm Whoop, which is fine for me, similar to my analog versions

Varies pretty heavy, I include props from 31mm to 3inch in micros.

The latency for me is only noticeable when switching back and forth from analog to hd. otherwise I find I adjust during the first or second flight.

better is very subjective. Hdzero low latency can't be beat. Walksnail image quality and penetration is better with higher latency. Cost is a roller coaster. What I say today could be different tomorrow.

@@NickBurnsFPV Thank you! I was not aware of the difference in penetration. But it seems that the HDZero goggles with Walksnail VRX will give the best of both worlds today and will probably be decent enought for a couple of years to come. Unless there are something new on the horizon that will replace them all. :)

I have seen a few videos of beta WS firmware, it does look like they are working on 50mbps and 1080p.

Edit regarding almost perfect: Fast proximity, hard freestyle I prefer the Hdzero latency....or should I say "lack of" lol.

@@NickBurnsFPV That will be great for cruising and exploring....

I suspect this would require a high level of small electronic knowledge and skill. Possible... maybe, hard...certainly.

Update the firmware if you haven't. Is the vrx powered on?

It should work at standard frame rate and 720p.

@@NickBurnsFPV Thanks Nick ,Will have to get some $$ and try it out in the near future to see how HD looks and probably good enough to have to save more $$ to get more HD goods...LOL Thanks again Nick

The different screen do appear differently depending if they are 4:3 or 16:9. I think the O4x stretched the image vertically some

lol. I do have one report of it working normally recording 1080p on the vrx. I don't have confirmation of the firmware version or any settings they may be using yet.

You mean 100hz? Or 50mbit?

@@DennisRiessbeck sorry, yeah 100hz mode

They are standard ufl connectors

That's what I'm doing. Why is nobody talking about/reviewing this? On the couch, no goggles, chillin.

but you can connect this way without goggles? you connect straight from vrx ? probably no OSD then

looks fine on 4:3 to me, HDO2's here.

@@fearlessflyersfpv420 yes HDO2 can switch aspect ratio but not HDO. Any circle becomes oval and a perfect square becomes a rectangle on my HDO... easy software fix if just caddx understands the issue that not al goggles accept 16:9

@@rasmus80g I flew on 4:3 it seemed fine. I tried both 4:3 and 16:9, both are good as far as I can see.

Hi yes I run the system on Cobra X. Image is lovely. A great upgrade to analogue. But the latency is around 70ms so for fast freestyle and proximity flying latency is an issue. But for steady cruising it's excellent

It should, no hdmi in to test

same here to all of that

Doesn't PA have long cold winters? I think I get enough Winter here. I don't suspect a move would be in the works with all the $$ spent in the back yard. :)

@@NickBurnsFPV Yeah kinda but I love flying micros in the snow and yeah I guess it would also be a slight bit difficult convincing the family to move to a different state so dad has somebody to fly with but if you ever changed your mind I'd be there for you

Please watch JB's video about using these on his HDO2 goggles... 🤷

I use HDZero on my Viper Goggles and really like it. Never tried WalkSnail though.

Unfortunately I have not had the viper goggles. We have to look at the hardware specs. I suspect they would do 720p 60fps just fine but not 1080p or 100fps. Just a guess though

It should, there does seem to be a fair number of fatshark goggles that the hdmi doesn't work, or fails after awhile.

@@NickBurnsFPV well that doesn’t sound promising:/

@@calehuntfpv480 unfortunately the fatshark hdmi board hasn't proved to be reliable.

@@NickBurnsFPV guess if I’m gonna go digital it will have to be all in with a new set of goggles then 🤷🏻‍♂️

yes, I have tried that on a tv. I found it pretty hard, especially when I was flying in the area of the tv.

Interesting, why is it hard ? Would it not be just like playing a fpv sim but i real life ?

@@busyswizzler for me is could be that i am so used to the camera image being up close to my eyes an having nothing else in view.

heat is normal to a degree. Get it in the air, soon after getting video in the goggles. Hard to say what the lag might be. check to ensure the vtx and vrx are on the same firmware version and if you have goggles that can do the fast frame rate choose that.

@@NickBurnsFPV thanks for the response i ordered some bt2.0 connectors and try that i got the module for my hdo2s i updated both the vtx and the module to the latest firmware since the problems happen after arming i guess its a power issue i hope the new connector will helps casue i wont need the adapter cable anymore

@@bluefpv3263 Yes, I would think the new connectors will help. The secondary issue could be the quality and condition of the batteries.

@@NickBurnsFPV ye new lipos and bt2.0 connector solved the issue it seems i just have to get used to the higher latency compared to analog

@@bluefpv3263 yea, the only way to decrease the latency further would be to run the vrx on hdzero goggles as those are the only goggles that will run the faster frame rate with the vrx.

I haven’t done that with the ws vrx. Typically I have found I had to reboot to get an inserted sd card to be recognized

I do. It’s pretty small and setup for patreons

I am not sure he is 100% human 😁

I don't see a video on this topic on your channel. Its is public?

​@@NickBurnsFPV yeah, i took it off. HDzero goggles + analog module + walksnail vrx + 5 antennas = 580gr For reference: walksnail goggles with all antennas- 341gr hdo goggles with analog module and two antennas- 270gr skyzone 04x goggles with 2 antennas- 334gr hdzero goggles with two antennas and analog expansion - 450gr walknsnail vrx module (4 antennas)- 95gr sharkbyte vrx module (2 antennas)- 75gr There is a 30% increase in weight compared to a normal analog pair of goggles with the sharkbyte vrx or a walksnail pair of goggles. In addition, the weight is placed way in the front and the base touching the face is not that thick, this leverage increases the pressure felt on the face due to a narrower area. There are numerous ways around it, easiest being to take the antennas off. Taking the modules off doesn t seem to be a viable solution as the analog module has a screw in it to keep it from popping off. Also, the walksnail will have to be mounted on the rails with double sticky tape, taking it off and on would increase the risk of damaging something and create waste. Another option could be to mount the walksnail vrx on top of the goggles, facing upt, this will reduce leverage. A 3rd strap could also be a good option. On stock form they are even heavier than the dji v2's and it s worth mentioning that the dji has a wider base which distributes the load better. Good thing is that most of the people didn t even noticed it or don t care. On the build quality, they are good, better than fatshark, not as good as skyzones 04x, walksnail, dji. Menu, optics, user interface are great, the heavy weight makes them feel premium. Odd enough, you have a much better image on the hdzero goggles compared to a pair of skyzone 04x with a sharkbyte module (on the same drone setup), i would say this doesn t happen because of the quality of the oled screens, these seem to be pretty consistent across different brands. This is are my trully unbiased first thoughts after i used the goggles for a few days. I have seen some comments about the weight from real users but never in a video from the fpv "reviewers". All the best!

Oh man really??

The first vrx reciew shown from a pilot. He used the HDO2 and had zero latency issues. Look it up.

@@Sylo2Nice well that's bullshit, the latency is real, and I've crashed probably ten times because of it in less than an hour of flying. yesterday skimming the ground it hit the ground and crashed for no reason, never happens on analog.

@@fearlessflyersfpv420 bro i seened a few videos that show other wise. Look it up on youtube and ask them what they did.

No the latency on hd02 with vrx was around 40ms the cobra X box goggle closer to 70ms

Only best in price...... Cheaper

I have tried it before, but had troubles focusing and certainly couldn't fly when the quad was in my eyesight.

@@NickBurnsFPV makes sense. It is different, less emersive. I'm still new to it so time will tell if I like it or not but it works for now. I have a pretty useless left eye and most hd goggles don't work for me. I might try the cobra x box goggles now that I have the avatar vrx. Thanks for all you do!

@@pttwinning9221 The cobra x goggles are good box goggles. I have ready a number of comments of cobra x owners using the walksnail vrx.

@@NickBurnsFPV you are right about the latency on a TV, I tried using a PC monitor that has a claimed latency of only 6ms, and finally it feels like I'm in control of the quad. Im hopeful for a more intriguing box goggles in the next couple years, think I'm going to go with what I have til then.