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I'm with you on this!!

Stay away. This is not finished product. Nothing but problems. I think they spent all R&D money on youtubers.

Wow I never heard of a "ferrite toroid" before. Thanks for teaching me some new stuff 😎 I wonder if the clip on ones at Amazon are any good...

@@sunsetpark_fpv I'm no RF expert, but think they'd be ok, just big/heavy. I have 14mm x 9mm x 5mm (od id w) to fit the 3-pin camera plug easily, but not too heavy. I think you're supposed to get "mix #34" (vs any higher), as that will give you a lower cutoff.

@@BooDevil65 Thank you for the tips! Much appreciated.

I think there's a pretty simple mod you can buy from Pyrodrones, that allows for the use of Fatshark-style modules with those. The O3O's have HDMI in, I believe, so even an external solution is possible, if not ultra practical. I also use Zkyzones, but my reception with a long lollipop and a patch is very close in reception quality as my Rapidfire.

Your know there is an official Fatshark Module Adapter for the Skyzones? I have it on my Sky03o and it works great! Just a little cable mess to sort out :-)

Yes, it is very very expensive.

I think for most the hdzero goggles for analog isn't worth it. the optics won't make a huge impression on analog and most don't use the awesome dvr like I do. It would edge towards being worth it if one were not just flying analog but hdzero as well. Especially if faster flight is something one does as the latency is so minimal with the hdzero goggles.

@nickburnsfpv

Ah that is good info on the wildfire. Prior reports were much more positive

@@NickBurnsFPV Also, we both had freshly charged goggle batteries, HDOs, and the same Lollipop antennas... Not super scientific, but real and noticeable differences...🍻

If the quads aren't identical, you cant compare that easily

@@chrisbee5481 🤣 Right... We were in the same quad...🍻

More than one person can use that module? How is that achieved?

I originally started with 2 stubbies and the two patches for hdzero. Remember, if we are behind ourselves or our head is between the quad and goggles the reception will be impacted and thus two stubbies aren't optimal if our head is in that position.

I tend to lean towards lower weight and flight performance. When I started we only had 25mw, so some breakup doesn't stop me from enjoying the flights.

@@NickBurnsFPV i know bro i was just messing around 😂i tried my best with the dipole, 1.8 grams was the difference, so it hasn't been noticeable in flight for me at all, the major change for me was actually swapping out my goggles, i was using the emax standard goggles, when i got the skyzone cobra x it's like a whole new level, for me!

The color or lack of color can be a by product of the receiver and camera in use. I have seen some dvr more "washed" out than others.

@@NickBurnsFPV interesting! The image i get from goggles is great but the dvr is washed out - that could be a result of the vtx/cam? What i do recall is my first few flights i recorded the dvr image was nice but then waned… unless thats just in my head! Now i have to go try to find my footage!

@@JThemelis My recollection of the orqa dvr is a bit washed out. I would expect from flight to flight on the same quad the recorded image to be the same. If its not, maybe...maybe it has something to do with the card or the vtx signal degrading due to heat, damage etc.

I have not heard of others needing to replace sma connectors due to wear, unfortunately that isn't one I can confidently comment on.

I don't have anything specific for those goggles. Best tips I can give are all in the video

oh shoot. Didn't know that.

yes, the last to my knowledge orqa does not have a deinterlacer on their dvr. They could have updated it, but again I haven't any definitive information if they have or haven't. One way to tell is viewing the dvr footage zoomed in the osd elements will move up and down slightly as the dvr footage plays.

Isn’t orientation of the antenna in direct relation to the position of the transmitter? So if the quad is above or below us the antenna position is no longer horizontal but vertical.

@@NickBurnsFPV No. The way circular polarized antennas work is the antennas pattern of receiving is designed to be used vertically, and when you turn it 90 degrees, like horizontal does, it throws off the reception 90 degrees to the antenna, making it virtually non functional. Hard for me to explain... You can find RCSchim's antenna testing video and extensive spreadsheet charts with each test result charted. He has each CP antenna standing vertical and then horizontal and in each case, the horizontal test shows the CP antenna virtually completely loses the signal. It's quite interesting! I spent quite a bit of time studying the charts after he did the tests. I found, for the price, the tall Foxeer pagoda and the red triple feed patch were the best for reception for the buck. When I bought mine, and this is before all of these price increases the world has seen on everything, the Foxeer pagoda was only $9.99 and the red triple feed patch was only about 12 - 14 bucks. I use both all the time for analog and as soon as I first used them I noticed an improvement in picture quality. Course, I refuse to pay close to $150 for Rapidfire. But, my reception with analog is great! I'd check out RCSchim's channel for those tests and charts a few years back. Super interesting and informative. 😎🤘

I haven't found a benefit or reason to use linear on the goggles. Patch antenna are directional and in a receiver with blending the two signals wouldn't provide benefit if flying close in.

I record my flights with the powerplay using Fat shark hd02 and rapid fire with Immersion rc basic patch and omni and depending where I park my carcass I can traverse 4 floors from the basement to the attic with near crystal clear reception but the speed of my whoops played back on video doesn't seem nearly as fast or as intense as the actual flight in real time

@@NickBurnsFPV so arguably they wouldn’t be the best for flying from your dining table, but what about range style tests where you fly around the neighboring houses? As I recall you normally only fly beyond your fence in one direction (“left”) as I think I’ve seen so it might make sense to use a directional antenna also🤷‍♂️ Seeing your comparison to say a polarized patch vs a linear patch at range for those of us using crossfire/elrs on our micros. Although it’s still a patch checkout the specs on the BiQuad 5, it’s crazy wide range. Although I prefer the Menace Viper for clarity/range I use both these patches with HDO2/Rapidfire and my Mob7s by facing the BiQuad up and behind me acting as my “Omni”. I also have the NBD linear patch. One place I fly is from the office at work, there is a router and I fly from inside around the outside of the building putting upto 4-5 block/brick walls between me and a control panel room with metal and lots of electric…I do get breakup around the backside but feel it got better with linear antenna. I’ve not seen any other linear specific antennas other than the classic stick style and these mentioned, but if it’d be worth a video/reviews I’d like to see your experience and hear your thoughts as I really do feel switching to linear goggle antenna made a BiG difference for me.

Interesting. This is a first I am hearing of such a thing. It is a curious finding.

​@@NickBurnsFPV I have never had it happen noticably on a micro quad, only on larger quads. So I think it has something to do with spurious or harmonic frequencies coming from the quad itself especially with very budget components. When it happens it looks like a diagonal rolling ripple in the video. But I usually always try R8 first, because it gets you out of wifi interference like you said.

@@deadmoo83 Good details there. Thank you

Yes, R8 is better, but might not be available or legal in all countries. Yes we can change the vtx in betaflight if it support smart audio, which most to all moden day vtx do support and bnf are setup for.

depends on budget and how much you fly. Its a big cost to go to something like the hdzero goggles. yes for me, I did have to pay for the hdzero goggles.

In my experience R8 is better, r1 tends to emitt more mw from a good many vtx but with R8 I get better clairity.

@@NickBurnsFPV thx for the input.

I agree. But a quick scan on your module is well worth it at regular flight locations. I use R8 at work but R2 at home and R1 is best outside. I’m too lazy to switch most of the time but if there is an issue i can adjust

All vtxs are illegal without a ham license in USA

EU pilots are already breaking a bunch of laws anyway, so it probably doesn't matter.

Increase rates will result in faster quad responses.

@@NickBurnsFPV Hey thanks for the reply and great content. I'm pretty new and haven't really gotten into tuning yet. But I'm about too. I got a regular Meteor75, whish I would have known about the pro version.

@@zeta7SoloFPV most bnf come with pretty good pid tunes. I would worry about the tune until our flight control and skills have developed.

yea, but if it keeps us flying and enjoying what we have there are no "problems" with that.

If i disregard beginners error of auto search instead of manually matching channels my signal significantly got better by simply moving antena on my quad. I have moblite7 and it has just a small copper wire but it was i kind of C shape. I "unwinded" it to be straight and pulled it up by a notch just to reach top of the frame and that meant a lot!

Dude, get a new vtx, they are inexpensive.

Gotta get good