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UpLula vs. Butler Creek Magazine Speed Loaders. Which is Best? 

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Which pistol speed loader works best? Lets have a race between the UpLula magazine loader and the Butler Creek ASAP magazine loader to find out. Full review and demonstration.
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@deuceandguns
@deuceandguns 5 лет назад
Get your UpLula mag loader here: amzn.to/2YHGD1D
@MJOG
@MJOG 4 года назад
DEUCE AND GUNS no longer a valid link
@JaxTheReaper21
@JaxTheReaper21 4 года назад
You can no longer buy maglula products on Amazon. There were too many fakes being sold so amazon took them down, either on their own or at the behest of maglula ltd. I bought mine from a local gun shop, $34.99.
@smkordis
@smkordis 3 года назад
As stated- no longer on Amazon
@bobbyrayvictory6905
@bobbyrayvictory6905 3 года назад
@@smkordis you can only get ch res apologize knockoffs on amazon. If you go to their website they show the in person store chains and very few online stores they go through
@worldwideguitarman
@worldwideguitarman 4 года назад
Another great video. Two days ago I bought my wife an M&P Shield 9mm for her to keep in her purse and car. The factory mags loaded easy to the last 2 rounds. This is a single stack 7 and 8 round. So you really don't want to leave out 2 rounds. They were both so stiff on the last round I actually dented the casing of of the top round trying to get the last round in the mag. Yesterday I bought an Uplula from the same shop we bought the weapon on a recommendation from the shop. He took a few seconds to show us how it worked and I was sold. Brought it home and can load both mags to the last round in about half the time it took to load one of them by hand. I had the same trouble that you did with the alignment but a grip change fixed that issue. I just grip the uplula like I would the grip of a pistol and it stays in alignment perfectly. Thanks for all the great material!
@robjanusch2874
@robjanusch2874 4 года назад
I've used the Maglula loaders for a few years. GREAT PRODUCTS !!!
@googleuser8448
@googleuser8448 5 лет назад
Think i might get one. Great video Deuce, we love em, so keep em coming!
@DannyWalker1949
@DannyWalker1949 5 лет назад
Thanks for this video on the 2 different Loader's, I was wondering How Good the Butler Creek was compared to the UpLula..Now I Know👍🏼
@michaelallison1255
@michaelallison1255 3 месяца назад
you convinced me uplula is what i will buy, great video, i was wanting to buy one!
@deuceandguns
@deuceandguns 3 месяца назад
This video is 5 years old and I still use this exact same uplula on a weekly basis.
@douchebagout
@douchebagout 4 года назад
Now that's how you make a comparison video. I'm an uplula guy, but i saw the BC is made in USA so i WAS gonna try it.
@williammccaslin8527
@williammccaslin8527 5 лет назад
I have the uplula for my 10mm's an had it for yrs, like 15, no problems at all with it.
@donaldduck4867
@donaldduck4867 3 года назад
Ok. I’m sold now. Guna go buy one now. Thanks for the video. 😎
@cmos4286
@cmos4286 4 года назад
Great video 👍 I will be purchasing one!!!
@Axlepup1
@Axlepup1 4 года назад
I watched Jessie a James video. He poured his rounds into a bowl to load his mags, I've been doing so ever since. Works great!
@bluracer766
@bluracer766 3 года назад
I have a Uplula, got it a few years ago for about $24.00, love the way it saves my thumbnails from agonizing pain. I read somewhere that there's a piece that's made to make it easier to use it with a single stack magazine.
@deuceandguns
@deuceandguns 3 года назад
Yep, they now have a single stack adapter.
@1Mannco
@1Mannco Год назад
@@deuceandguns I have the older Shield 9mm and does that single stack adaptor come with it or sold seperately?..thx
@bradkuether3561
@bradkuether3561 4 года назад
Glad I caught this, in my boredom being at home under quarantine, almost bought the Butler Creek. Should have known, their mags are garbage.
@davidinghram2494
@davidinghram2494 3 года назад
I got my Butler Creek double mag loader as a gimme with a scope purchase. To load my 4006 is just about impossible with it. It may load about six or seven and then it signs off with several different types of malfunctions. The old slip over type works much better, certainly much less frustrating. It looks like I`ll be ordering an UpLula in the next few days. Thanks for the video, I appreciate it.
@USA2283
@USA2283 Год назад
My guy your the best. Fleet farm had the butler creek loader top shelf and the packaging was really nice it was $35. So the upula was bottom shelf and had dust on it. It was $30. I watched your review and went with the upula and have no regrets it works great. If I didn’t stand there in the aisle watching your video I would’ve bought the butler creek because of the packaging and it was top shelf. Glad I saw it.
@deuceandguns
@deuceandguns Год назад
Glad it helped. Put that $5 towards your next ammo purchase.
@jkhoney29
@jkhoney29 3 года назад
Just bought an uplula today. I love it.
@deuceandguns
@deuceandguns 3 года назад
Mine stays in my range bag just to make sure I never leave it behind.
@Johnyrocket70
@Johnyrocket70 3 года назад
Watching deuce while dropping a deuce. Gotta go my corn hole needs a wiping it's a burning.
@philiplucky7170
@philiplucky7170 4 года назад
Thanks for the review, you should have a look at the ETS loaders or Magul
@therightstuffAK
@therightstuffAK 5 лет назад
I've always liked & used the simple Glock speed loaders that slide over the magazine & have no moving parts. You just slip it over pressing down on the follower or rounds already loaded, put a round in & release pressure, slide round in rest of the way & repeat. Also if I lose one they're only like $7 so they're "disposable" so if I lose one no big deal.
@RyeOnHam
@RyeOnHam 4 года назад
I'd love to see you try the new Ruger 10/22 loader made by MagLula.
@robertinscoe2379
@robertinscoe2379 5 лет назад
Have you done a best AR mag loader ? Just started shooting a 25-45 Sharps and looking for a loader for it. Thanks
@johnsimons8328
@johnsimons8328 4 года назад
I bought the butler creek for p365 and works great I will have to try the other one
@Norminator1
@Norminator1 Год назад
i have the upula man what a great device
@nathancunningham8717
@nathancunningham8717 Месяц назад
Had them both and the SpeedBeez Ar15 loader is the best IMO. Just sold my Maglula
@weedXD38
@weedXD38 5 лет назад
How's it going?? Awesome test, I've been using Lula for many years, can't say enough good things about Lula, time save at the Range means more l can Shoot!!!! Good Stuff!!!!
@rickturner2757
@rickturner2757 Месяц назад
will this work with a xdme 10mm 4.5
@CM-ve1bz
@CM-ve1bz 4 года назад
I hold the Uplula loader a little different. Instead of looking directly into the chute, I'm looking at the side with the chute to the right, if right handed. Hand wrapped around loader with my 4 finger tips on the front and thumb wrapped over top strap, pointing at about 10 o'clock. The downward pressure is applied with thumb instead of having to hard grip the loader. But that's just me.
@dennis350
@dennis350 3 года назад
You might want to consider...Caldwell...that will any size rd or mag...there a must also
@davidmorrison3765
@davidmorrison3765 Год назад
I bought one of those butler creek ASAP magazine loader, 38 to 45 caliber and I have a 9 mm Taurus G3 and it won’t load the magazine
@jpwoelfling
@jpwoelfling 4 года назад
They have a single stack loader called BabyUpLULA for .22-.380 caliber
@larrycartales1011
@larrycartales1011 3 года назад
Can you do a demo of the Raptor Loader?
@vinnieboombatzmd3508
@vinnieboombatzmd3508 5 лет назад
Uplula vs ETS speed loader next? ETS is on sale for about $15 on Amazon right now.
@rockmusicman21
@rockmusicman21 5 лет назад
Damn i have a butler creek just because it was the only one they had at Walmart and my brand new mags were too stiff to load by hand. Now i need and UPlula
@deuceandguns
@deuceandguns 5 лет назад
Walmart has a very forgiving return policy, especially if you're cool with store credit. It's always worth a shot.
@yliberal6355
@yliberal6355 4 года назад
Butler Creek is the seller for the UpLula, ironic! This UpLula seems to be far better than the XPM 40 mag loader gear that comes with the entire kit. Man, I had to get my granddaughter to help, you know cuz I’m a granma, lol. Those 19 mags have a very hard spring. I also am thinking about converting it to a ten mag, California!
@duckow1
@duckow1 7 месяцев назад
just paid $68 incl shipping in Canada - can't get it from US - they won't ship outside US😢
@andy347
@andy347 3 года назад
You said you “have known and used [the Uplula] for a very long time” - do you think that could have played a big part in the difference in times between using the two since you may not have the technique down for the other one?
@deuceandguns
@deuceandguns 3 года назад
It played a small part of the time difference but that Butler creek option was not well designed. Keep in mind what made it to the video was the best one I could muster after several attempts.
@texasstadium
@texasstadium 3 года назад
I have both loaders. The Maglula is superior. I find the Butler Creek cumbersome to use. I have several Maglula products. The only Maglula product I am disappointed with is the PMR-30 loader. That loader dents the cases of the 22WMR no matter how careful I load. I tried to contact Maglula but their website is unavailable as of today 12-28-2020. When in doubt, go with Maglula.
@gerardmcquade9102
@gerardmcquade9102 3 месяца назад
you weren't letting the butler creek come up far enough for the spring arm to push the rounds back so you were slowing it down by using your finger instead
@jameshealy4594
@jameshealy4594 5 лет назад
Is a 17rd glock magazine really no problem? I would have thought the increasing spring tension as the follower descends was at least part of the problem, that might not scale exactly as you think. Just curious, I have no experience to make a statement but if the problem is % of rounds loaded then it's even worse than you thought.
@deuceandguns
@deuceandguns 5 лет назад
The 17rd mags do work a little better. The 33rd mags need a stiffer spring because they have to overcome more weight and friction.
@heiner71
@heiner71 5 лет назад
I don't think the Butler Creel loader would do better if you only load 17 round mags. It would likely start getting into trouble at around 10 rounds. It's not the total number of rounds to load, it'd how much spring tension the tool has to overcome.
@rangersmith4652
@rangersmith4652 4 года назад
Has anyone seen an Uplula break? Mine seems indestructible. I don't have many single stack pistols, but I've considered getting a single stack Uplula. Are they as good, and do they work better for single stack than the double stack version? I would presume so.
@aaronwagner9461
@aaronwagner9461 4 года назад
Amazon sells inserts that you can pop in and out of the uplula. Different inserts for 1911’s and single stacks and all sorts of different mag types. Takes the wobble out when switching between mags for full size M&P 9 and Shirld 9.
@ninorcsinned3465
@ninorcsinned3465 5 лет назад
I got my uplula from amazon 38 years ago
@cfrost87
@cfrost87 3 года назад
Even if it doesn't save time (as long as it doesn't take longer with a loader), it at least it saves your thumbs.
@wsnow555
@wsnow555 4 года назад
I have the uplula and a EDC camloder . I put the EDC camloder away .
@shawngansert1973
@shawngansert1973 4 года назад
My uplula will be here tomorrow. (Today). So far I've got 3 18 round mags and 2 20 round mags for my canik. I'm hoping the next range trip I'll be able to spend more time shooting than reloading. Thanks for the review
@golfnerd3107
@golfnerd3107 4 года назад
I could care less about time, my quest is to not have purple thumbs at the end of the day. So they both win.
@GunFunZS
@GunFunZS 5 лет назад
My favorites have always been then defunct brand Mantis. I also like 3rd hand ones for the really long stick mags.
@DanTDrac
@DanTDrac 3 года назад
I love my UpLULA.
@paulseebach5978
@paulseebach5978 5 лет назад
I sure wish they would come out with one for the DE .50AE
@deuceandguns
@deuceandguns 5 лет назад
Not many options out there for that big boomer. I did find this one but I don't know anything about the seller. amzn.to/2VMMFRB
@therightstuffAK
@therightstuffAK 5 лет назад
Those mags are easy to load since the rounds are so big. I've got plenty of DE .50 mags for my .50AE & I have no trouble loading them by hand, it's only 7 cartridges to load per mag vs 33 in the Glock mag Deuce is loading.
@johnwallace6866
@johnwallace6866 5 месяцев назад
What is the maximum capacity of a magazine for these speed loader?
@deuceandguns
@deuceandguns 5 месяцев назад
It'll handle any double stack pistol mag. I've used my uplula to load up the Glock 33rd mag.
@jacknasty6940
@jacknasty6940 11 месяцев назад
I couldn’t find the uplula on amazon
@deuceandguns
@deuceandguns 11 месяцев назад
At some point after this video was made they stopped selling it on Amazon but it can be found in sporting goods stores and on their websites.
@Bill23799
@Bill23799 5 лет назад
Congratulations UpLula on winning the race. Well done Butler Creek on never giving up and finishing. No one likes a quitter. The only high capacity mag I own today is the 30 round double stack/double sided coffin mag for my S.I.T.E.S. Spectre M4 9mm. The Uplula won't fit over that monster. Good thing it came with it's own dedicated speed loader. I tried loading it by hand once and after 20 rounds my thumb threw in the towel. The mag is like two double stack 9mm mags side by side that feed up into one stack.
@JD-tl7ld
@JD-tl7ld 5 лет назад
Oh my GOD a 33 round clip! I've found the G18 33 round mags to be pretty easy to load right up until round 27 or so, then I have to break out the Lula. I've never needed to use it with a 1911 magazine.
@deuceandguns
@deuceandguns 5 лет назад
Yep, those last five or six rounds are pretty rough.
@ThomasShue
@ThomasShue 4 года назад
I guess they don't sell on Amazon anymore, it's not in your store anymore
@deuceandguns
@deuceandguns 4 года назад
The Maglula company sued Amazon for selling counterfeit versions. I guess they pulled them until the lawsuit is resolved. My link was to their official Amazon store but they are still available from just about any sporting goods shop that sells firearms.
@jimschultz9465
@jimschultz9465 2 года назад
your link to Amazon no longer works. doesn't look like they carry it anymore.
@molonlabe9602
@molonlabe9602 2 года назад
I found none on Amazon.
@danielw.4588
@danielw.4588 3 года назад
Looks like operator error but yeah you get it he used the one loader for years and the new one was different
@derekhunter3125
@derekhunter3125 3 года назад
-You (anyone) might consider the comparatively cheap ($6-$7) Glock/glock-style loader you can get from ebay (and almost anywhere else). -It works fine, is simple and easy to use and you can get three for the price of either of these, and get change back. -It is one piece, no parts to break or lose. -It may take a few seconds longer to use but you don't always have to speed-reload.-In fact, hardly any of us ever do.
@garyh1449
@garyh1449 Год назад
Do these Glock loaders load multiple style magazines for Ruger, S&W, Beretta etc.?
@upnorthvlogs
@upnorthvlogs 4 года назад
9m are pretty easy it’s the 40 cal that I have hard time with
@PaDiddy98
@PaDiddy98 2 года назад
Mine too man the bullet won’t even fit
@leodanryan966
@leodanryan966 5 лет назад
The ASAP took 7 seconds longer than no speed loader.
@blaws6684
@blaws6684 2 года назад
You said it yourself. You’ve used the uplula for years. The other is new to you. Of course you are slower with it since you don’t know yet how to best use it.
@jacobstaten2366
@jacobstaten2366 3 года назад
My childish brain wants to draw eyes on the Uplula so it looks like some weird creature swallowing the rounds. "Om nom!... Om nom!"
@rbm6184
@rbm6184 5 лет назад
I got the Butler Creek ASAP because that is all Walmart had in the store at the time I was looking for one when I needed one or I would have gotten the other one. Despite it not being the best I can assure you its better than trying to load those tight little ten round SIG P365 mags by hand.
@Sungodv
@Sungodv Год назад
Uplula no longer allow sales on eBay or Amazon
@CK-jb8qh
@CK-jb8qh 4 года назад
“ My thumbs”.. proceeds to use index fingers.
@m-thang2hard348
@m-thang2hard348 3 года назад
Lmfao
@neiljohnson6815
@neiljohnson6815 6 месяцев назад
These are not "speed loaders". Speed loaders are a specific device used with revolvers. These are loading tools.
@molonlabe9602
@molonlabe9602 2 года назад
Them there are thumb savers, not magazine loaders...another vote for UpLula.
@SIG-qy8nz
@SIG-qy8nz 4 года назад
9mm?
@Lilnasty-jo3dc
@Lilnasty-jo3dc 5 лет назад
I love my Uplula!! I own 2 of them! Butler Creek 👎🏼
@Superman-xr1oh
@Superman-xr1oh 4 года назад
Not a very good comparison, use the butler creek correctly next time.
@gossettcd
@gossettcd 3 года назад
What did he do incorrectly?
@harlanrice6160
@harlanrice6160 3 года назад
The Butler Creek will push the loads in with the toggle if you start them in. You lost a lot of time pushing them all the way in with your finger. Not a fair trial.
@pmorin313
@pmorin313 5 лет назад
You don't need to keep pushing the rounds in with your finger....the Butler Creek will push the round in itself
@Superman-xr1oh
@Superman-xr1oh 4 года назад
Exactly. I have the same loader and it works fine.
@sams-kv9ul
@sams-kv9ul 3 года назад
I was going to say the same thing, plus you could push the assist instead of the round itself if for whatever reason it doesn't push the round on it's own. This was all user error.
@Johnyrocket70
@Johnyrocket70 3 года назад
Those still take to long. Use the ones that look like a giant stripper clip with a handle. Slide it over the rounds in the box slam them in the mag 7 seconds
@seahawks1185
@seahawks1185 3 года назад
If you have loose ammo, no.
@BK33REVIEWS
@BK33REVIEWS 3 года назад
Really not fair to compare something that you been using for 15 years compared to something you just bought, the caldwell is faster than both
@Mike242
@Mike242 4 года назад
Anyone who chooses a butler creek speed loader over a uplula is probably the same guy that carries with an empty chamber 😂
@Drizzt2688
@Drizzt2688 Год назад
Kinda biased test. You have 15 years experience with the smaller one. So of course you will do it faster. Think it would've been better to get someone who doesn't have experience in either one to truly test them out. Just something I noticed. Good video though.
@Rowdeegolf
@Rowdeegolf 4 года назад
I got the Butler.... not impressed. Very wobbly and the return doesnt seat the round and you have to press the lever to get it in right. I ordered the ETS speed loader. Works much better.
@Rowdeegolf
@Rowdeegolf 4 года назад
I just got my Uplula. Much more effective, but a bit finicky. At least the return works and the rounds arent wobbling around inside the tool. Uplula wins. If that plung tab doesnt break.
@diemos322jones9
@diemos322jones9 3 года назад
You can't base anything when you've used the uplula and not the asap
@TwoFeatherChannel
@TwoFeatherChannel 5 лет назад
Plus Butler Creek loader is too large.
@Bill23799
@Bill23799 5 лет назад
WooHoo!!!! 38th viewer!!!!
@kentr1435
@kentr1435 3 года назад
Learn to use the Butler Creek. You slowed it down by pressing every round in with your finger. You don't need to do that if you used it correctly.
@Bill23799
@Bill23799 5 лет назад
BC I am glad you did not speed up the video during the contest. If you did I am sure some pinhead would have reported your video to RU-vid for suggested sexual content.
@deuceandguns
@deuceandguns 5 лет назад
HA! I made a comment at some point about that but decided to edit it out.
@Bill23799
@Bill23799 5 лет назад
@@deuceandguns Hey BC, I am this ( makes tiny sign with 2 fingers ) close to making the plunge and getting my first Black Powder revolver. I think I have told you I live on a low SSDI disability income so buying anything i can't eat has to wait and be saved up for. well this last year I have bought all the things I need for Black Powder. Brass Powder Flask, Brass Powder Measure, brass capper, Nipple wrench, 100 .454 round lead balls, 100 pre lubed wads, One Lb Black Powder substitute, Pkg #10 Remington Percussion caps. I was originally going to wait for Cabelas sale to buy the Pieta1851 Confederate Navy for $149.99 on sale. However after more thought I waited another month to save up for the Brass Frame Pieta 1858 New Army for $229.99. I have been experimenting with making paper cartridges using cig rolling p[apers. Have you ever rolled your own paper catridges for your BP revolvers?
@deuceandguns
@deuceandguns 5 лет назад
@@Bill23799 I've never tried the paper cartridges but I've seen people use them. The 1858 New Army is nice because you don't have to deal with the wedge every time you're cleaning and that wedge does wear out eventually.
@Bill23799
@Bill23799 5 лет назад
@@deuceandguns I had a chance to handle a 1851 Navy in a Pwn shop. The grip seemed a bit small for me. Not that I have BIG hands. I read the 1858 has little larger grips. If you ever do try making your own paper cartridges i think it would make a nice BP video for you to show. I think during the Civil War that is primarily how they reloaded revolvers in battle. Pre made packs holding 6 paper cartridges and 8 percussion caps. Extras in case you drop one.
@Bill23799
@Bill23799 5 лет назад
@@deuceandguns Hey BC you need to check Classic Firearms RU-vid video titled. " Huge Weekly Deal On Everything AR- 15 + More " Holy cow!!!!! they have several great items at great prices. I am not including the link because you mentioned YT frowns on that.
@bigguy8749
@bigguy8749 Год назад
Lula cost me 35$ plus 10 for shipping
@tymz-r-achangin
@tymz-r-achangin Год назад
We could care less if there's a mere half minute difference. We're not competitors at a speed loading sports event. We just want a cost effective product that at least works decently. Especially with the high costs of ammo, that started back when you uploaded this video 3 years ago , there's not nearly as many people shooting their guns for fun and thus would a quite a few magazines to load up, but shooting them now n then for more of the purposes to keep in the grove with their shooting skills.
@shawnmatthews5118
@shawnmatthews5118 4 года назад
ETS C.A.M. Loader for the win!
@paulvenn4447
@paulvenn4447 5 лет назад
Lula is the original and the best
@texpatriot8462
@texpatriot8462 5 лет назад
If you were Jon Snow and needed to take down Khaleesi’s dragon tonight on Game of Thrones tonight, what gun would you bring to a dragon fight?
@deuceandguns
@deuceandguns 5 лет назад
Tex, that's a great question! I'll have to do some math on that one.
@Timewaits4no1
@Timewaits4no1 4 года назад
Huh, I thought the Uplula was a Butler Creek product. I need to pick something up soon so I appreciate the vid. Happy Dads day everyone! Edit: Your link for the Uplula is dead. Also, according to their web-site, they do not sell on-line. There were to many fakes, and knockoffs being sold, so be careful if you want a genuine Uplula
@deuceandguns
@deuceandguns 4 года назад
They had to close their Amazon store due to fraud. I'd recommend MidwayUSA for online which is on their approved list of retailers.
@Verylukyguy
@Verylukyguy 3 года назад
LOL. People should take your rating and opinion with a grain of salt too. You tried to load a single-stack mag with a double-stack loader, so you obviously don't know what you are doing. Butler Creek is the Company that makes the UpLULA and the ASAP. DERP.
@BTandKM111
@BTandKM111 Год назад
SpeedBeez When are people gonna learn. WTF
@gggromay
@gggromay Год назад
Naa, its super obvious you are loading the rounds incorrectly into the Butler, and the rhythm is clearly off on the Butler, yet the UpLula is in perfect rhythm.. whether you did it intentionally or because of lack of practice with one vs the other, this test is useless
@rickstir7144
@rickstir7144 4 года назад
I didn’t need to see a video of you cleaning up buddy... thumbs down for that.
@noahbarkelew6093
@noahbarkelew6093 3 года назад
Haha... Any way to get the video over the 10 minute mark.
@RideForLifeCR250R
@RideForLifeCR250R 4 года назад
I use my thumbs only and I smash your times. I just assume spend the $30 on a box of defensive rounds or couple boxes of fmj's
@keldonator
@keldonator 4 года назад
Prove it, 33 round Glock mag
@RideForLifeCR250R
@RideForLifeCR250R 4 года назад
@@keldonator kinda hard not knowing what his time is on the 33rd grease gun mag w/either loader.. so there's that. Also, I don't do Glock, mainly Sig & Springfield.
@keldonator
@keldonator 4 года назад
@@RideForLifeCR250R this video shows the time of the 33 round Glock magazine with a loader... In order for you to smash his time it would have to be the same magazine like he compared in the video, obviously
@RideForLifeCR250R
@RideForLifeCR250R 4 года назад
@@keldonator absolutely, eliminate variables. I didn't realize/remember if he'd timed himself loading a grease gun mag. Unfortunately due to the state in which I reside in passing mag capacity regulations, getting a 33 rounder poses a small hurdle.
@keldonator
@keldonator 4 года назад
@@RideForLifeCR250R I guess due to your statement you already beat his time with the same magazine, I guess it was just blowing smoke 😅
@herbscherer4280
@herbscherer4280 3 года назад
My Butler Creek runs a lot better then yours.
@sethmannie7745
@sethmannie7745 2 года назад
Why did we need to watch you clean up you mess? What was the purpose of showing us you made a mess?
@richardslackman2985
@richardslackman2985 3 года назад
why would you waste my time watching you clean your bench ???????
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