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US Navy Reveals TERRIFYING Truth Behind The OceanGate Submarine Tragedy | Titan Documentary 

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US navy heard implosion. We dive deep into the thrilling and tragic story of OceanGate's submersible, the Titan, in our new documentary. This engaging narrative charts the heart-stopping search and rescue operations led by the US Navy and Coast Guard, 900 miles east of Cape Cod, following the mysterious disappearance of the Titan.
Discover the chilling reality of a race against time, as the rescue teams faced harsh weather conditions, poor visibility and a fast-depleting oxygen supply aboard the submersible. Unearth the shocking delay in the alert sent out about the Titan's disappearance and ponder over the numerous speculations regarding this strange occurrence.
Learn about the involvement of various entities, from the Canadian armed forces to commercial and research vessels, in this massive operation. But what was the biggest concern during this rescue mission? Surprisingly, it wasn't the depth or the limited oxygen supply, but the Titan's very structure.
Explore the harrowing narrative of this experimental carbon-fiber vessel that went dark, leading to terrifying speculations about its hull being compromised, making it fragile during recovery or even a possible total failure. Gain insights into the chilling events leading up to the discovery of debris from the Titan near the Titanic wreckage on the seafloor and the unfortunate implosion that led to the loss of lives.
Intriguingly, the U.S. Navy, with its high-tech acoustic detection system, had picked up the sound of this implosion hours after the Titan started its voyage. But why didn't they immediately disclose this information? And what did the US Navy hear in Titan Submarine's last moments? #titan #oceangate #usnavy
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@claudiodiaz9752
@claudiodiaz9752 10 месяцев назад
Video starts at 23:20.
@chickenpermission
@chickenpermission 10 месяцев назад
The hero we need.
@DMD81773
@DMD81773 10 месяцев назад
Thanks. I am so sick of the same shit over and over. They need to just get to the point.
@cottoncandisandi6109
@cottoncandisandi6109 10 месяцев назад
😘😍😎
@baddiemwah
@baddiemwah 10 месяцев назад
you deserve the best 🧠
@mkoury83
@mkoury83 10 месяцев назад
thank you
@ryanorusio1056
@ryanorusio1056 10 месяцев назад
They weren’t a group of “Intrepid explorers” they were billionaire tourists, a kid that didn’t want to be there, a negligent CEO and a Titanic Expert. They were classified as crew falsely so that ocean gate could reduce their liability.
@ctg4818
@ctg4818 10 месяцев назад
Friendly reminder that Hamish Harding was on Epstein's list
@imalrockme
@imalrockme 10 месяцев назад
yeah, they kept being referred to as crew, by many news outlets across the world.
@bernice6867
@bernice6867 10 месяцев назад
​@@D3v611Am I an explorer if I go to Paris to explore the Eiffel tower?🤔
@samsara-summermooncomehome5881
@samsara-summermooncomehome5881 10 месяцев назад
I feel so bad for the kid. What kind of parent does that? I can't understand why the mother didn't put a stop to it. If that was me, and my hubby wanted my son to do something so risky, and my son was clearly not happy to do, there would be no chance of my child going anywhere. I know sometimes we have to encourage our kids to try and overcome their fears, but that doesn't include things that are so risky that they have to sign an agreement that stated that they could die in the process!
@samsara-summermooncomehome5881
@samsara-summermooncomehome5881 10 месяцев назад
​@@D3v611 Well the mother is as bad as the father was. They had to sign their life away ffs. The son could've been so worried about losing both of his parents so took her place, but either way they were wrong to let him go on such a wreckers, pointless trip.
@musician96gaming34
@musician96gaming34 5 месяцев назад
Imagine diving In an "unbreakable" sub, to visit the "unsinkable" boat!
@bobbiingram4258
@bobbiingram4258 3 месяца назад
You could not pay me any amount of money to get in that thing even on dry land. And cinched in from the outside? Just no.
@transvonjng
@transvonjng 2 месяца назад
Both named Titan (ic)
@Thelstlaugh
@Thelstlaugh 2 месяца назад
@@transvonjngthe titans ultimately were defeated!! They were taken down and never on top again! Some symbolism for ya huh
@pattyann8661
@pattyann8661 2 месяца назад
Hail Satan 🤘
@pattyann8661
@pattyann8661 2 месяца назад
Hail Satan 🤘
@jdsalinger3731
@jdsalinger3731 4 месяца назад
It is sad that these people died. It is silly to pretend that they were noble. They simply had money and bad judgement
@lvelez1999
@lvelez1999 Месяц назад
Just like the Titanic, people died from people's foolishness, especially by ignoring warnings because of arrogance and pride
@strangevideos3048
@strangevideos3048 25 дней назад
31 000 palestian civilians !?
@glenforde6558
@glenforde6558 19 дней назад
The son seemed to have the most sense out of all of them!
@its.sapphire
@its.sapphire 14 дней назад
Tf is wrong with you??​@@strangevideos3048
@Gohaeism
@Gohaeism 14 дней назад
@@glenforde6558 Lives were lost, which is tragic, but I find it even more so for the son. He was just a kid and from my understanding, was only obliged by his father because he requested he join him for Father's Day. Allegedly, he didn't even want to go! It hurts to think about.
@EdSileo
@EdSileo 10 месяцев назад
First rule I learned from my SCUBA instructor: " Never fight the ocean. It always wins." Never forgotten those words.
@sds5502
@sds5502 10 месяцев назад
And an old sailor told me as a child, NEVER, NEVER disturb a shipwreck. It is a underwater grave and the lost souls will retaliate those who dare to disrespect them. Rush was trying to profit on the underwater grave of over 1500. I'm surprised it took so long, especially when you take into account the cutting corners all motivated by his greed to profit off the loss of others. This was not a scientific dive, nothing more than a tourist trap. Literally.
@helentaylor7132
@helentaylor7132 10 месяцев назад
So true. And applies to riptides at the beach. Riptides don't kill people, panic does. Same principle with to diving.
@marcellinebruck7083
@marcellinebruck7083 2 месяца назад
Thats a great rule.
@YourLocalRat378
@YourLocalRat378 2 месяца назад
that’s great.
@ebw_servant_of_GOD
@ebw_servant_of_GOD Месяц назад
When you think you have beaten mother nature (The Sea) wait a second because you will be in the water or at the bottom of the ocean. Consider all the ship that have sunk at sea it a single moment.🤨 I served 21 years in the US Navy and have experienced seas that could have sank my ships several times if we had not been well prepared. EBW USN Ret Servant of God
@georgeford6056
@georgeford6056 10 месяцев назад
What a strange question: "could OceanGate have done a better job in ensuring their customer's safety?" Well, being as their customers were squished into a fine paste, I would say the answer is "yes, they could have done a better job."
@kygodragon4782
@kygodragon4782 10 месяцев назад
Explain how mr scientist...
@thestig007
@thestig007 10 месяцев назад
@@kygodragon4782 Don't use carbon fiber that shatters under stress. Get third party certifications of the vessel. Don't hire a bunch of diversity hires and brag about not wanting White men as engineers. That would be a good start.
@jamieayres8030
@jamieayres8030 10 месяцев назад
@@kygodragon4782 How about simply listening to EVERYONE in the submersible filed that told them the whole idea was flawed and should be redesigned from the ground up.
@ghostlygent
@ghostlygent 10 месяцев назад
​@kygodragon4782 Carbon fiber does not have the structural integrity to withstand the 5000+ lbs of pressure present at that diving depth. Scientific enough for you, Mr. Sarcasm?
@kygodragon4782
@kygodragon4782 10 месяцев назад
@@ghostlygent No, there was litearrly no science in your comment... Or do you think because you typed "lbs" you are smart? Didn't work kid.
@christopherclark6898
@christopherclark6898 2 месяца назад
My wife and I were a part of the live stream and the announcement of the game plan to take payment for people to dive into the deep. Being a fan of titanic lore, wifey jumped on board,(figuratively of course. ) we spoke about the idea with the founder and his initial plan was 250k each. We had thought about being married down deep at the Titanic. Time passed and the idea was inspiring, so we decided to go. Oceangate saw the opportunity to upcharge and make money on us so we went back to just a dive w/o the wedding. We were scheduled initially for the march 23 dive. But we decided that the dive wasn’t for us when my wife found out the sub was not classified. I’m alive today because of her intuition.
@gladysvogel9442
@gladysvogel9442 Месяц назад
And God's deliverance!!❤
@bradglenn8570
@bradglenn8570 Месяц назад
The best I told you so ever, can't even be mad if she said it lol.
@jacquessowhat3680
@jacquessowhat3680 Месяц назад
Crazy fact; they ran out of oxygen way before 72 hours.
@user-od5sh1ck5g
@user-od5sh1ck5g Месяц назад
I can think of a lot better places to get married than an ocean graveyard! So glad you’re still with us. Smart lady!
@user-qk9yh1zp4u
@user-qk9yh1zp4u Месяц назад
And then she left the oven on
@nathanvandermeer
@nathanvandermeer 4 месяца назад
The worst thing about the OceanGate tragedy is that it could have easily been avoided by adhering to stringent safety management. Instead they ignored safety and it cost the lives of 5 people. Never, ever ignore safety concerns.
@spudhut2246
@spudhut2246 3 месяца назад
The person behind the safety program is what makes it safe. You can go through all the process, its only a matter how? Having an OSHA stamp would not have made it safer. With all the shoddy materials, firing of responsible people to push a 'dream' should raise the flag right there.
@logowatchman
@logowatchman 2 месяца назад
And maybe the CEO should have avoided his policy of deliberately not hiring "50 year old white engineers". I had to replay the video the make sure I heard him right.
@TheBkmillerjr
@TheBkmillerjr 2 месяца назад
Very Wise and Appropriate observation and advice.
@Yvory6
@Yvory6 2 месяца назад
@tchman yeah you heard right, everybody heard it yet not many talk about it, we could have come to that conclusion even without him saying it but damn, he said it^^ and he paid for it with his life, sadly he had to bring other lives with him...
@BingBangBye
@BingBangBye 2 месяца назад
It came down to a choice between money and safety, and we know which choice was made here.
@Martyz-TV
@Martyz-TV 10 месяцев назад
David Lockridge is a hero. He put his conscience before money and blew the whistle. A GREAT man, in my opinion. Very rare to see morals before your job nowadays.
@bikelifewithalex120
@bikelifewithalex120 10 месяцев назад
where are his response? Im sure he feels bad but not one comment from him after accident.
@radiationshepherd
@radiationshepherd 10 месяцев назад
He did his due diligence to try and stop Stockton rush from killing people with his recklessness
@KeithWF
@KeithWF 10 месяцев назад
@@bikelifewithalex120 He wants to avoid any lawsuits. Don't blame him.
@baneverything5580
@baneverything5580 10 месяцев назад
Crushed by a woke implosion of colorful diversity. Gosh it just feels fuzzy ya know? SO fuzzy!
@jonhall9000
@jonhall9000 10 месяцев назад
@@baneverything5580 You didn’t do well at school I guess…
@sf9145
@sf9145 10 месяцев назад
Our government needs to search for our kidnapped children as much as they do for adults that took this risk. It's maddening.
@therealdeal3672
@therealdeal3672 10 месяцев назад
This
@richardparker3273
@richardparker3273 10 месяцев назад
Our government needs to do just about everything they're not doing, and stop doing most of the things they are doing 😒
@therealdeal3672
@therealdeal3672 10 месяцев назад
@@richardparker3273 very good job at specificity! Hahaha 🤣 Care to actually make a point?
@nevermore7285
@nevermore7285 10 месяцев назад
I mean, that isn’t really the same thing. If you look at searches of woods and stuff for missing people, they tend to be as relatively through
@adtrent
@adtrent 10 месяцев назад
Amen
@davidstratton6374
@davidstratton6374 3 месяца назад
They weren't "shedding new light on the tragic Titanic story". They were Titanic tourists, plain and simple.
@mikeprevost8650
@mikeprevost8650 2 месяца назад
and continuously referring to them as "the crew" doesn't change that. Rush was the captain and crew. The other 4 were passengers.
@fgarrison2910
@fgarrison2910 22 дня назад
Titanic was sunk. It was a "Berg" just not an "ice-berg". And the federal reserve happened the year later. Oceangate [think pizzagate, watergate] name sounds like they were trying to prove there was a conspiracy involved with Titanic and the iceberg narrative. Same people who control Hollywood who brought you Titanic, are the same people who owned the papers back when.
@saxman7131
@saxman7131 6 месяцев назад
The Titanic should be left alone.
@Ng110..
@Ng110.. Месяц назад
Agreed
@sillarose5545
@sillarose5545 Месяц назад
I agree 100%
@_invinciScribe_24
@_invinciScribe_24 11 дней назад
It really should like theirs nothing left their for people to see it’s rusting away and plus i find it disrespectful that they go down their cause that’s literally peoples graves leave them be 👎🏾
@murrayent1able
@murrayent1able 9 дней назад
Go watch d movie and let it be 😢
@user-wb9vz3dt5y
@user-wb9vz3dt5y 10 месяцев назад
I'm a Submarine veteran. I had to graduate submarine school after boot camp. Sub school is a weeding-out process where I and the others in my class were subjected to different types of stressful scenarios to see if we were capable of responding to emergency situations and claustrophobic environments. Our class began with 30 I believe and graduated about half I was one but I could/would not do it today as an old man. Navy submarines do not can not operate in the depths that submersibles do which is more dangerous. My point is that you need training and I just do not think it is suitable for tourism if someone has a health or mental breakdown could be serious
@brianreber8842
@brianreber8842 10 месяцев назад
Thank you! Excellent response!😊
@dragonflydreamer7658
@dragonflydreamer7658 10 месяцев назад
Interesting deduction but know one really knows what happen but your big mouth 2 cents is about average... Your future enjoy it.... THREADS
@Ken_Scaletta
@Ken_Scaletta 10 месяцев назад
I wanted to go on subs when I joined the Navy but I washed out because I found out I was claustrophobic AF.
@mathewmolk2089
@mathewmolk2089 10 месяцев назад
@@dragonflydreamer7658 Brother are you ewer full of shit. You obviously have never been on the broken end of a bottle.
@patrickshaffer7051
@patrickshaffer7051 10 месяцев назад
It's like taking 4 random people off the street and asking them to crew a mission to space.
@bluefluke7585
@bluefluke7585 9 месяцев назад
Search and rescue expenses should not have been paid from taxes. Those who were financing the mission should be held financially accountable for this search and rescue operation.
@user-dp5cd8kg7p
@user-dp5cd8kg7p 2 месяца назад
The ones who financed it were inside of it.
@TerryKeever
@TerryKeever 2 месяца назад
The SAR activities especially the different agencies and private entities got good experience from this. Should there be a need for a submarine from our Navy or Canada or anyone else to be rescued, these resources are better equiped to work together to potentially save a crew. This effort should be treated as a learning experience just as practice SAR exercises are. Also hopefully others in trouble on or under the seas should know to get help as soon as possible. It wasn't a complete loss of taxpayer money. A lot of the money spent would have been spent anyway like salaries and much of the fuel. Cost estimates really should show expenses over normal day to day operating costs. Not having the submersible tested by anyone else was criminal. Especially things that have never been attempted before should be undertaken with caution not arrogance. The submersible had dove deep before and survived intact, but the effects on the integrity of the pressure hull of multiple dives most likely contributed to 5 senseless deaths.
@mikeslater6246
@mikeslater6246 Месяц назад
​@@TerryKeeverI'm with you 100% on the costs being incurred whether this happened or not. All of the Navy, all of the Coast Guard, and many of the other resources were things that would have been being used during that time whether this incident occurred or not. The cost in the context in which the video seems to imply is actually for any additional equipment like the commercial robot submarine that was brought in.
@JoeBilello1969
@JoeBilello1969 Месяц назад
ABSOLUTELY, I COULDN'T AGREE MORE!!! Tax paying suckers like you and I get into a car accident that's no fault of ours and even with medical coverage the ridiculous bills for everything under the sun start flowing in, ambulance, tow trucks ect ect, this dick's estate should be responsible for every last penny of this response, no doubt!!!
@koriw1701
@koriw1701 9 дней назад
500 people drowned in the Mediterranean at the same time the USA and Canada were throwing millions towards looking for something that had already been destroyed. Two countries decided not to go look for them because they didn't believe there was a problem. (It was a boat full of refugees that no one wanted)
@sheelaghbradley942
@sheelaghbradley942 3 месяца назад
As an engineer who has used many different sorts of plain and composite materials for all sorts of structures, I can't get my head around the choice of a fibre composite for a sub hull. The point about a fibre-reinforced composite such as glass or carbon strands, is that it adds tensile strength to the plastic matrix. Fibres resist it when you pull them in tension. I've used them in silos and pressure vessels where the pressure inside is elevated - for which they are great. But when you push the ends of a fibre together, it just collapses in a loop. In an externally- pressured vessel, the structure is purely in compression so the fibres are doing nothing, the plastic matrix is carrying all the compression. This is the basic theory of use of reinforced concrete - the steel fibres carry any tension, but the concrete takes the load in compression. So I can't see what benefit the presence of fibres has at all - they are at best passengers, or at worst could help to weaken the plastic, encouraging the propagation of cracks through the matrix as the compressive force cycles. It would surely be better (stronger and more stable) to just make it out of unreinforced cast plastic resin, preferably made in a single cast to minimise discontinuities in the structure. Was this really as stupid as it sounds? Is it the schoolboy error it seems to me? Or am I missing something here?
@TheBkmillerjr
@TheBkmillerjr 2 месяца назад
Good summary. Stupid - yes CEO Hubris - yes
@mikeprevost8650
@mikeprevost8650 2 месяца назад
James Cameron gave a good explanation of the difference between the internal pressure differential between and aircraft fuselage at typical cruising altitude, and the external one on a submersible's hull at deep ocean depths, and made the same point as to why carbon fibre was totally unsuited for the hull material.
@heidifromoz215
@heidifromoz215 Месяц назад
I’m no engineer, but just LOOKING at photos of the Titan, I can see how badly it’s put together. The joins don’t sit flush - see for example towards the front of the craft, where there almost appears to be a crack (might just be the lighting). Claustrophobia aside, there is NO WAY I would go in there. And if it’s true they bought the material from Boeing, who considered it sub-standard for use on an aircraft, well, enough said.
@MultiMMariOO
@MultiMMariOO 16 дней назад
but fibre sounds cool and strong you wouldnt understand you arent an explorer like me! now bon voyage to the titanic!
@kgm2182
@kgm2182 11 дней назад
As well as too many dissimilar materials expanding/contracting at different rates at extreme pressures over and over.
@tommybutler2454
@tommybutler2454 6 месяцев назад
The 19 yr old being aboard and trusting the adults with his safety and life was what really broke my heart. My son is a year or two older than him, and I could see he was an innocent and a sweetheart, like my son. It makes me hug my son a lot more. This was so unfair to him, with so much life that should have been still left for him to live. The one guy said the thing was making crackling noises when he had been on it. Just scary. Lots of broken rules for safety. This was so wrong and terrible. I wish they would have stopped this guy before he was able to take people with him. It's one thing to risk your own life, but not the lives of others. ❤ 🙏
@VinhTran-lu6gm
@VinhTran-lu6gm 3 месяца назад
hes an adult as well . its sad he died though .
@Dora_is_my_cat
@Dora_is_my_cat Месяц назад
19 is adult, just ask the military.
@kimbradley9595
@kimbradley9595 11 дней назад
He didn't want to go
@cherrytomato6139
@cherrytomato6139 10 месяцев назад
Whatever happened to David Lockridge before I hope he is able to secure the highest paid job in his field. The guy had enough integrity and guts to at least try prevent the tragedy. Huge respect to him
@raymeus
@raymeus 10 месяцев назад
Also that other father and son who decided not to go because they didn't think it was safe enough.
@jimmcfarland269
@jimmcfarland269 10 месяцев назад
@@BobbyT-yj1cw If he had indeed called every "paying customer" to warn or otherwise dissuade them from going on any expedition with Oceangate, he would've been opening himself up to a serious lible case by Oceangate! Business is business and especially when customers are paying "a quarter mil a seat", you can bet the legal threats and lawyers would've been implemented had anyone interfered with any customers. As far as the argument about, "Everyone knew the risks" that's not necessarily true. There have been more people shot into space than there has been sent to depths anywhere approaching the Titanic wreck site. This whole, "extreme thrill seekers/danger explorers" market niche is a cottage industry and only relatively new. There are no written rules and playbooks that exist as a result of decades of experience learned via many trips to the oceans greatest depths while hauling multitudes of people down there. The mention of Boeing selling that carbon fiber to Oceangate is a new discovery to me. I can see the lawyers lining up now. They would be one of the targets in an ambulance chasers sights that are looking for the largest and deepest pockets to attempt to dig in after this catastrophe...
@peterdarr383
@peterdarr383 10 месяцев назад
@@BobbyT-yj1cw I heard there were 91 "dives" but the majority were aborted - one after just 40 feet. So there would be an extensive passenger list for a fired employee to go rogue and try to privately contact.
@cherylburkhead1334
@cherylburkhead1334 10 месяцев назад
Being a whistle-blower is a frightening and challenging role. Corporations and organizations do an unrelenting job of disparaging anyone who speaks out or asks questions about irregularities. The goal is not malicious. It is to improve outcomes and safety. Lockridge was doing that. Anyone who can verify accounts refuses to speak up because they are afraid for their jobs. Having spoken up about issues, I have been treated respectfully in two instances, and adjustments were made. I have also been targeted and it is disheartening.
@irene_f.
@irene_f. 10 месяцев назад
@@cherylburkhead1334 I think Rush threatened to destroy this man reputation - how stuck up was that? The sad irony is that Rush, who said he was insulted when told he was risking lives, actually ending up taking 4 lives with his own. Plus Rush was a liar according to this one man who said Rush lied about blaming the weather when the submersible had issues. The more I learn, the more I find it hard to believe that those poor passengers were aware of the actual risks.
@GoblinsAreAGirlsBestFriend
@GoblinsAreAGirlsBestFriend 10 месяцев назад
The US navy didn't keep the sound anomaly a secret at all. They passed the information on to the coast guard who were responding to the call for help. Just because they didn't declare it to the press doesn't mean they were hiding it or keeping it a secret. The coast guard HAD to presume the submersible was missing even with that information because the anomaly heard/detected is only interpretive and could have been anything else as well. We only know it was an implosion 100% sure now because we found the debris. Underwater sounds/signals are hard enough to interpret and we do the same on land - if you hear a loud bang in the next room, you can't just presume someone got shot and there's no point checking.
@yourmomsdildo3938
@yourmomsdildo3938 10 месяцев назад
There is no coincidences anymore with timing of information release.
@derekday4832
@derekday4832 10 месяцев назад
IIRC they did say, early on, that they'd heard noises but couldn't be certain whether they were from Titan, or Titanic.
@dougww1ectebow
@dougww1ectebow 10 месяцев назад
They kept some of the circumstances of it a secret. A whole lot of operational security issues with the Navy's sonar capabilities, which I can assure you from personal experience, and beyond. your wildest dreams.
@stephenhathaway269
@stephenhathaway269 10 месяцев назад
@@yourmomsdildo3938its less of a coincidence that such a comment would be posted by a fw like you
@unexpecteditem7919
@unexpecteditem7919 10 месяцев назад
I'm sure you will find out, in future, that in private they would have already told the families that they detected an implosion, or at least that they were all certainly dead. They wouldn't release that to the press until the search has concluded, for....... many reasons, that I'm sure you can imagine yourself.
@lindadegraaf9297
@lindadegraaf9297 3 месяца назад
Stockton Rush was the Millenial version of Dr John Hammond, in "Jurrasic Park". It's just too bad that no one like Jeff Goldblum was around to tell HIM beforehand, "Your scientists were so preoccupied with wondering whether or not they COULD, they didn't stop to think about whether or not they SHOULD."
@stephaniemurria5534
@stephaniemurria5534 Месяц назад
Amen ❤
@teamperry757
@teamperry757 2 месяца назад
Ive worked on LA class and Ohio class submarines for twenty years. When i heard about the accident i knew how deep they were but had no idea about the actual vessel they were diving in. When i looked it up I couldn't believe that that vessel had ever been that deep before and that it is reused for consecutive dives. Anyone with the knowledge of this topic will tell you this was almost guaranteed to happen.
@rodneyking4183
@rodneyking4183 10 месяцев назад
As a former U.S. Navy submariner, I can confirm that it didn't matter if the carbon fiber used was brand new and perfect or old and falling apart. It should not have been used to make a submersible craft going down that deep in the ocean. Kind of like putting rubberbands around a wheel of car instead of a tire. Also, the U.S. Navy does not use game controllers for anything on a ship. At least not on the Ohio class submarine I made 4 patrols on.
@AnneMarieBibby1966
@AnneMarieBibby1966 10 месяцев назад
Thank you for your service 🙏
@Pappa.D
@Pappa.D 10 месяцев назад
What is your professional opinion of the actual shape of Titan? Could that have also played a part in the implosion?
@buckmurdock2500
@buckmurdock2500 10 месяцев назад
expired carbon fiber is news reporting fodder. Of course it's meaningless but gee whiz it sounds so sinister. "He used expired carbon fiber ! ! OMG, how negligent ! ! " lmao.
@rsears78
@rsears78 10 месяцев назад
BOOMER CLASS
@WooWoo-co4jf
@WooWoo-co4jf 10 месяцев назад
The have no expertise or relevant education and training. But my common sense tells me that carbon fibre isn't strong enough because if a large truck drives over the carbon fibre hull of a boat it will break. Knowing 1 litre of water weight 1 kilo that isn't a good material to be under that weight of water. I don't think he really cared, he wanted to be famous and rich. He's now famous unfortunately as a person who ended the life of 4 people
@Imustfly
@Imustfly 10 месяцев назад
Apparently, the most relevant question is: could Ocean Gate have done a worse job than it already did?
@notzathros
@notzathros 10 месяцев назад
Could have bobbed back to the surface and then violently tumbled around as a small white tube in the foamy North Atlantic for several days with no food, water or toilet until the people eventually suffocated while staring out the window at the sky. If you're going to die in an Oceangate sub, abrupt decompression early in the journey isn't the absolute worst.
@blackwater7183
@blackwater7183 10 месяцев назад
WDYM? They did a good job. A good job of what not to do.
@Alef.93
@Alef.93 10 месяцев назад
If they had used cardboard soaked in linseed oil instead of carbon fibre.
@PapaTanGh0stNI9htM4R3S0nMaInSt
@PapaTanGh0stNI9htM4R3S0nMaInSt 10 месяцев назад
​@@notzathrosThey could have escaped at the surface all they'd need would be a pocket knife.
@455buick6
@455buick6 10 месяцев назад
@@Alef.93 No linseed oil and ATF in a 50-50 mix, old timers used that on old lapstrake boats, superb water deflection
@jerardnorgren3411
@jerardnorgren3411 3 месяца назад
You couldn't have paid me a million dollars to get into that thing and bolt me in from the outside. Are you nuts?😮
@DerexLuvsJenkins
@DerexLuvsJenkins 2 месяца назад
Nobody is paying you tho lol
@jerardnorgren3411
@jerardnorgren3411 Месяц назад
@@DerexLuvsJenkins Which makes it even more insane.
@DerexLuvsJenkins
@DerexLuvsJenkins Месяц назад
@@jerardnorgren3411 true
@jerardnorgren3411
@jerardnorgren3411 Месяц назад
@@DerexLuvsJenkins To me that would be kinda be like being buried alive. I wonder what they were thinking when that first crack / leak / or noise was heard? For their sake I hope they at least got to see the Titanic in the distance. That's a sacred buriel ground and nobody really should be messing with that.
@DerexLuvsJenkins
@DerexLuvsJenkins Месяц назад
@@jerardnorgren3411 they didn’t see the titanic, they were only 10,000 feet down, when it ran out of power and it was pitch black they were still 2000 feet above it before they imploded, and other other words, they didn’t get to see anything lol
@cocoedelie5054
@cocoedelie5054 3 месяца назад
Someone got ahold of the transcript from the mother ship. They knew they were going to implode if they did not ascend fast enough, and it wasn’t. Likely due to the owners negligence it wasn’t ascending at the rate that it should. The alarm meant to signal that the pressure was causing catastrophic damage to the submarine was blaring for 30 minutes ish until it finally imploded. Until this was revealed I was relieved to hear that they did not suffer from such fear as it had happened instantaneously. It hurts my heart now knowing that they knew what was happening, and they knew they would lose their lives. I don’t particularly feel back for Rush, but I feel especially empathetic to the boy that was on board.
@richardrebecchi7351
@richardrebecchi7351 Месяц назад
And I'm sure you did your due diligence and fact checked the details before regurgitating this information right? Right.... People are so worried about contributing something even if it's complete nonsense. Truth is Jack was still bitter about Rose letting him sink from that large piece of debris that was clearly large enough for 2 people and has vowed revenge on anyone getting near the Titanic.
@lew832
@lew832 10 месяцев назад
I have been down to the Titanic wreck, and have been to the top of Everest many times. I have travelled to different countries, wandered down the streets and all thanks to RU-vid, and Google earth.
@sheilagravely5621
@sheilagravely5621 Месяц назад
Amen.❤
@earnold1896
@earnold1896 21 день назад
Exactly and one probably sees more of the titanic in the documentary or footage instead of out of a small submersible window. They must not have been claustrophobic.
@shod1112
@shod1112 19 дней назад
Corporate manslaughter!
@supafrancis
@supafrancis 10 месяцев назад
As someone who has broken a total of two carbon fiber mountain bike frames, believe me when I say that old carbon fiber is MUCH weaker than new carbon fiber.. One bike frame that was made in 2006 broke completely in half at the top tube and down tube ( the two tubes that would be between your legs if you were straddling the bike) causing a horrible crash in 2015. The second frame broke at the headset/toptube/downtube junction and just cracked. That carbon frame was only 6 years old. My current bike has a steel frame and I'll be keeping it that way. Whoever ok'ed old materials to be used 100% had zero knowledge of carbon fiber and hopefully will be held accountable
@larsmoen5657
@larsmoen5657 10 месяцев назад
Carbon fiber is brittle and hate vibration/shock. the stronger the material the more brittle. fellow bike racers I knew in the early 90s told me the frame transmitted that shock all the way through to them carbon fiber was a MAJOR mistake
@janbonfiglio1156
@janbonfiglio1156 10 месяцев назад
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@projektkobra2247
@projektkobra2247 10 месяцев назад
I work in an arena...we have a big pile of broken carbon fibre hockey sticks in the back. They break all the time.
@cozymonk
@cozymonk 10 месяцев назад
Meanwhile, I'm still tearing it up on my steel alloy road bike that was once my dad's when he was in high school... in the 70s. (And it's comfy and not rough like a carbon fiber frame is.)
@fredcarr3550
@fredcarr3550 10 месяцев назад
It seems as if the person who gave the OK was on board the submersible and holding on to his game controller; therefore he won't be held accountable.
@ratgirl34
@ratgirl34 6 месяцев назад
These guys are why I have started keeping an eye out for an opportunity to tell someone not to Rush into something.
@andyreidsmustache9247
@andyreidsmustache9247 15 дней назад
"OceanGate" sounds like the original Watergate and not a company I would choose with a dangerous Ocean activity.
@hcac36
@hcac36 10 месяцев назад
I’m still in disbelief that something like this can happen in this day and age. Oceangate is criminally negligent for the death of 5 people for failing to prove to regulatory authorities that their vessel was safe to operate in an extreme environment. Firing someone for reaching out to OSHA should have been a HUGE red flag!
@eduardscharis
@eduardscharis 10 месяцев назад
what do you mean with: this day and age? that is so arrogant. People now are as unaware as they have always been.
@jss27560
@jss27560 10 месяцев назад
at least two reasons, corporate greed and people believing they know more than experts.
@bananka4905
@bananka4905 10 месяцев назад
Ocean Gate's ceo was killed. So who do you go after.
@Smeggy87
@Smeggy87 10 месяцев назад
​​​@@bananka4905the engineers who said the vessel was safe to operate for a start. Just because Rush died, doesn't mean there aren't others responsible.
@Smeggy87
@Smeggy87 10 месяцев назад
​@@eduardscharisI think he means in modern life it's unbelievable that people who are well educated are stupid enough to do things like ignoring industry safety standards in an extremely hazardous environment. He's not being arrogant....
@jaytee3060
@jaytee3060 10 месяцев назад
The fact that they knew they were cutting corners, is enough to say that they definitely could have done better.
@dr9gonkid20
@dr9gonkid20 9 месяцев назад
More than just that It's a literal crime scene at this point
@nabirasch5169
@nabirasch5169 8 месяцев назад
Unfortunately, it's always been normal to cut corners. Generally takes two crashes to correct the deficits.
@Somethinghumble
@Somethinghumble 3 месяца назад
Imagine if a car company or an airline or any tourist company started "cutting corners" with safety protocol. This spoiled rich guy actually fired then sued his own safety inspector because the inspector said it was untested and therefore could implode. We need to find that judge that heard that case, and put them in jail too. That's literally criminal abuse of the legal system resulting in loss of life.
@bobhoye5951
@bobhoye5951 6 месяцев назад
In reading a number of articles about such collapses, the mechanism is ultra-violent and ultra-fast. Pressures compare with those in a diesel engine ( CR:19 to 1) and whatever hydrocarbons in the chamber reach the combustion point. No bodies left. But it is faster than the initial pain can be sent to the brain.
@lostinspace2246
@lostinspace2246 3 месяца назад
just like the space shuttle challenger fired the guys that said it will fail ! complete negligence!!
@user-ns1cf6lh8m
@user-ns1cf6lh8m 10 месяцев назад
What is so ironic is that in 1898, English author Morgan Robertson wrote a book called "Futility." It was about a huge "unsinkable" Atlantic liner named the TITAN. In the book, the Titan strikes an iceberg on a cold April night and sinks with a large loss of life. Its now April 1912. The "unsinkable" White Star liner "Titanic" puts to sea, strikes an iceberg and sinks with a large loss of life. Now a submersible named "Titan" is lost descending to the Titanic. This almost sounds like a Twilight Zone episode. I fully agree that tourist travel to the Titanic should be prohibited! It is a grave site, NOT a tourist attraction.
@odochartaighofodonegal2351
@odochartaighofodonegal2351 10 месяцев назад
I concur fully with your last statement- it is a mass grave. The fact that this site would be a 'tourist destination' for wealthy, low-IQ individuals is morbid, but the outcome was perfectly just, poetically.
@OneaeBlack
@OneaeBlack 10 месяцев назад
This is just so wild, and the titanic tragedy story seems to go on and on.
@DigiLab360
@DigiLab360 10 месяцев назад
Since when are cemeteries not supposed to be visited? Ever been to a cemetery yourself or even heard of Arlington National Cemetery?
@gowdsake7103
@gowdsake7103 10 месяцев назад
Utter stupidity ! I bet you believe in Nostradamus and astrology as well
@WWZenaDo
@WWZenaDo 10 месяцев назад
​@@DigiLab360It's not a cemetery where people can pay their respects. It's the site of the aftermath of a significant tragedy, not a place for lookey-loos to gape and gawk at in ghoulish curiosity.
@peatbogg3688
@peatbogg3688 10 месяцев назад
21 minutes of bombastic retelling of what we already knew before getting to 'What the US Navy knew', which amounted to 5 more minutes of telling us nothing in particular.
@CFLsurfr
@CFLsurfr 6 месяцев назад
What really saddens me most, is in an effort for "conservation", Stockton took a huge amount of carbon fiber into the ocean and exploded it for all the marine life to now live with.
@dianeberania2024
@dianeberania2024 Месяц назад
❤Ok Navy Lessons Learned. NEVER DEPLOY ANY CRAFT in the ocean without a BEACON installed in it and tested. My heart goes out to the families of lives lost. May they be with God resting in Peace.
@bobbyricigliano2799
@bobbyricigliano2799 10 месяцев назад
The three tourists could have rationalized their internal fear by telling themselves repeatedly that the owner / designer would not be on board unless the submersible was completely safe.
@ratchetwise440
@ratchetwise440 10 месяцев назад
Tourist prefer Cancun
@hasnainy
@hasnainy 10 месяцев назад
Absolutely
@michelerorabaugh8134
@michelerorabaugh8134 10 месяцев назад
When u play with double edge sword u will eventually get cut
@Shroomie.shawtie
@Shroomie.shawtie 10 месяцев назад
Wow, I’ve considered a lot of hypothetical scenarios since this drama began but not this POV yet…I agree whole heartedly. Sooooo easy to rationalize in that situation…seems almost predatory now that i think of it that way. Like Rush maybe fetishized “dying for his creation “ like so many before him.
@bigoldgrizzly
@bigoldgrizzly 10 месяцев назад
familiarity breeds contempt. 'Nothing will go wrong I've done this loads of times before' said the CEO
@georgevan2606
@georgevan2606 10 месяцев назад
I think the Coast Guard made the right move. From an ethical standpoint, I would shut my mouth and keep searching until I found the debris that proves it was an implosion.
@gabeswitala2292
@gabeswitala2292 10 месяцев назад
One would think
@Ryarios
@Ryarios 10 месяцев назад
If nothing else, they had to locate the wreckage for their formal investigation. They may as well do it like there were survivors to rescue.
@Wildstar40
@Wildstar40 10 месяцев назад
You can not automatically assume it was that stupid little sub when you first hear the noise. The report they were missing did not come until hours after the implosion so in those first hours those who heard the noise could only guess as to what it was.
@hyliedoobius5114
@hyliedoobius5114 10 месяцев назад
It wasn't the CG that withheld the info, but the Navy...most likely from seafloor hydrophones that are part of the Navy's SOSUS network (Sound Surveillance System), the same system that triangulated the implosion of the USS Scorpion in '68.
@oliviaadan8208
@oliviaadan8208 10 месяцев назад
Absolutely...almost like a damned if you do and damned if you don't...lol
@pault2148
@pault2148 16 дней назад
The attachment of the different materials may be one thing. But I believe the main issue was the pressures that are at those depths require a sphere for the crew to be in, not a cigar shaped craft. Spheres have proven to be the most strong at depths (windowed portholes to see out, become the weak points). H-D Cameras would be the best option with no portholes. Is there no F.A.A. like program for vessels that travel on and under water? How did they get insured without being tested and Certified by an outside company?
@swingping
@swingping 6 месяцев назад
If they we're already dead, what was making the knocking sound at regular intervals?
@scottghost1
@scottghost1 3 месяца назад
My exact question too???
@chrisbrown7423
@chrisbrown7423 Месяц назад
Sponge bob
@honnorjustice
@honnorjustice 10 месяцев назад
Sounds like the CEO had plenty of warnings and due to arrogance suffered the consequences. A similar fate to the Titanic. The unfortunate issue is he took four other souls with him.
@weekendwarrior3420
@weekendwarrior3420 10 месяцев назад
Maybe he was afraid of old age and subconsciously was looking for a quick death. People are very illogical and emotional creatures and make mistakes. That's why we have engineering reviews and work as teams. Putting all faith in one man is risky. But even NASA crashed TWO Shuttles for the pretty much the same reason - they thought the risk was OK and underestimated it.
@xemirov9298
@xemirov9298 10 месяцев назад
He joined the souls of the titanic because of the same reason Humans never learn
@fractuss
@fractuss 10 месяцев назад
Sad the the CEO F'd around and the passengers had to do the finding out.
@pauliedi6573
@pauliedi6573 10 месяцев назад
Exactly what james cameron said
@pauliedi6573
@pauliedi6573 10 месяцев назад
It was kept a secret
@neville4451
@neville4451 10 месяцев назад
I spent way more than I could afford at the time I bought all my scuba gear. Getting regular services on all equipment and paying attention to detail ensures equipment never fails and that you always have a backup if it does. The last thing any diver needs is a critical gear failure at depth. You can never spend enough on any life support system for a hostile environment. Titans fate was just a matter of time very sadly😔
@ICYDRAGONS
@ICYDRAGONS 10 месяцев назад
Buying old carbon fiber is a red flag. I'm sure the customers didn't know, but overtime that thing shreds like old cardboard under impacts or pressures.
@Shajirr_
@Shajirr_ 10 месяцев назад
"You can never spend enough on any life support system for a hostile environment." - funny you say that, because Oceangate CEO was saying exact opposite. He said something along the lines "after a certain point any money spent on safety is wasted"
@borregoayudando1481
@borregoayudando1481 10 месяцев назад
​@@Shajirr_Darwinism, the definition
@neville4451
@neville4451 10 месяцев назад
@@Shajirr_ yeah mate..how do you even get your head around the CEO's attitude? It's almost like he had a death wish. I can't help but wonder if he had secret mental health issues. Anyway if they died before implosion they would've slipped into unconsciousness and died peacefully. Implosion is so instantaneous to even realise what's happened🤔 🇦🇺🙋‍♂️🇦🇺
@Shajirr_
@Shajirr_ 10 месяцев назад
@@neville4451 Nah, he was just one of those "you can't tell me what to do" people. Those who think the government should not interfere with what private companies are doing and preferably not tax them, stuff like that. He was just living his dream, making stuff as cheaply as possible with as little regards to safety as possible.
@kellyklocke8183
@kellyklocke8183 3 месяца назад
Sad that the taxpayers have to flip the recovery bill for negligent company without insurance
@manslaughter3180
@manslaughter3180 7 месяцев назад
I think a lot of people are just misinformed when it comes to making a point about the submarine having been operated by a repurposed console controller. Those controllers are reliable and created for precision and comfort. That, as elaborated on in this video, is absolutely not the reason why this accident occurred. Instead, it was the CEO's negligence.
@jackmazza5742
@jackmazza5742 10 месяцев назад
I am a Navy veteran and a commercial diver, and have spent the majority of my younger working years on the docks. I will tell you, trying to profit off a wreck that is also a gravesite breaks about every traditional law of the sea. I feel James Cameron did honor to the wreck, but these guys were plundering the wreck in a repetitive & disrespectful way and were punished for their greed. You do not ever push that luck out there. RIP.
@AbbyNormL
@AbbyNormL 10 месяцев назад
You should see the videos of WWII sunken vessels being cut up and recovered because the metal is extremely valuable because metals not under hundreds of feet of water in 1945 have become irradiated following the nuclear bomb explosions done in the atmosphere. Human remains recovered along with the metal are just thrown in the local landfill.
@amarissimus29
@amarissimus29 10 месяцев назад
​@@AbbyNormL Let me guess, those videos start popping up when you watch geniuses talk about wifi cancer and powerline death rays. Sounds super legit. Radiation bad. Let's go spend a billion dollars fishing up salty scrap metal. Its half-life is infinity, man. Me so smart.
@albinoman13bt
@albinoman13bt 10 месяцев назад
@@amarissimus29 Maybe get your facts straight before replying like a snarky a-hole because she's mostly right. The part where she's wrong is that the steel isn't radiated because it was smelted before the atomic era and not because the water protects it, so there's little to no radiological impurities in the steel. It's very valuable for ultra sensitive scientific and medical equipment because any modern made steel emits much more radiation. Or are you arguing that it isn't happening? Because China just got caught illegally chopping the HMS Prince of Wales and the HMS Repulse. Part of the reason they got caught is because anything non-metallic was being thrown into a local Malaysian landfill.
@NETBotic
@NETBotic 10 месяцев назад
Well said.
@sojourner2013
@sojourner2013 10 месяцев назад
Veterans fight for the freedom of these people to do just that. How about honoring that.
@meganruchwatercolors7186
@meganruchwatercolors7186 10 месяцев назад
What's mind-blowing is not only did they use carbon fiber but the fact that it had expired and to think that Stockton thought that was good to use for his submersible! It's insanity!!!!
@cwatson42785
@cwatson42785 10 месяцев назад
Yeah and he was so sure of it that he put his own life at risk and behind it. Which showed just how much he believed in its safety.
@TheGryfonclaw
@TheGryfonclaw 10 месяцев назад
honestly the fact that it was expired doesn’t really matter- using carbon fiber period for a deep sea dive capsule is a huge mistake
@kathyinwonderlandl.a.8934
@kathyinwonderlandl.a.8934 10 месяцев назад
He was extremely tight for a man with money
@hippieash2799
@hippieash2799 10 месяцев назад
Considering carbon fiber for any part of a sub is insanity. Carbon fiber is used where there is less atmosphere, he put it under 12x the atmospheric pressure than ground level
@cambizkhosravi
@cambizkhosravi 10 месяцев назад
I’m not trying to defend Rush but he did design a submersible that made multiple dives to the titanic and other sites. This engineering worked at the beginning. The problem was Rush had the ego to believe he had engineered a vessel that many said couldn’t de done, a new generation that would expand the human reach of the deep seas. Because of this ego he refused to properly test and class this vessel. And there lies the rub.
@user-gi9zp8di3i
@user-gi9zp8di3i 20 дней назад
Sadly, it's all about greed and cutting corners to save a buck. The old adage "Your weapon was made by the lowest Bidder" rings true
@daianadaidone121
@daianadaidone121 7 месяцев назад
sorry for the question, what is the song that they used for this video?
@brettc1984
@brettc1984 10 месяцев назад
The data that’s available shows that this type of sub is only strongest on its 1st dive, and decreases in hull integrity every dive after. In other words this sub should have had a overhaul after each dive to maintain integrity. The fact this company either knew this or ignored it all together show’s negligence. Simple concept the owner was arrogant and greedy, cost the lives of 4 people plus himself.
@harristech6807
@harristech6807 10 месяцев назад
would make the company not profitable to rebuilt it everytime after one dive, but it totally makes sense but it doesnt make dollars.
@littlekong7685
@littlekong7685 10 месяцев назад
Apparently Rush knew this and ordered no checks, no maintenance because he didn't want a paper trail. He knew any reports would get back to authorities and they might force him to make repairs or stop diving.
@savemykind5877
@savemykind5877 10 месяцев назад
In an another article, I learned this was the Titan's 14th dive. More negligence if that's possible in this case.
@brettc1984
@brettc1984 10 месяцев назад
@@savemykind5877 And the company is closed permanently. 200k a person per trip and couldn’t afford to do what’s required to maintain a sub. There’s so much shady crap that went on it’s sickening.
@iJiimi
@iJiimi 9 месяцев назад
what makes it worse is, They had the money to do it!
@kimmorris764
@kimmorris764 10 месяцев назад
The Ocean gate company should have to pay for the recovery. Millions of dollars paid by we the people, yet "we" would never be able to take a trip like that. Need regulation obviously.
@navigatewithme4829
@navigatewithme4829 10 месяцев назад
@@blantech8978 bro the Perdue that makes opioids is not the same Perdue that makes chickens lmao. Next you’re gonna say they all went to Perdue university 😂
@jguenther3049
@jguenther3049 10 месяцев назад
@@blantech8978 Perdu means lost in French.
@yosemitesam9576
@yosemitesam9576 10 месяцев назад
@@blantech8978Entirely different companies
@gowdsake7103
@gowdsake7103 10 месяцев назад
Ummm from who ?
@steveowens913
@steveowens913 10 месяцев назад
Totally agree!
@malikmcclain7869
@malikmcclain7869 22 дня назад
The initial investor from Las Vegas, who was offered a bargain price for seating, if you want to call it seating, could see all the Red flags involved with this submersible craft. His pulling out, should have alerted the eventual "explorers " of the dangers they faced. The implosion obviously occurred during descent and all the assets deployed would have been on a recovery operation rather than a rescue attempt from the outset.This video presentation was very well done.
@joshrobinson2409
@joshrobinson2409 12 дней назад
A terrible irony, the maker of the sub didn't learn from the mistakes of the titanic only to fall victim to the same folly, and now has joined the ship wreck in Davy Jones locker. Those that do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it
@wtmayhew
@wtmayhew 10 месяцев назад
Unverified transcripts of text communication between topside and Titan indicate the rate of descent even early on was too rapid. That high descent rate may have been an indication that Titan was becoming water logged. The Titan crew may well have been doomed by the time they were about 30 minutes into their journey.
@joanberkwitz2662
@joanberkwitz2662 10 месяцев назад
Water logged, or water in the back fin. If that transcript is real, it also indicates that it was tail heavy and so did not rise when ballast was dropped.
@wtmayhew
@wtmayhew 10 месяцев назад
@@joanberkwitz2662 Thanks for the additional information.
@charlesyoung7436
@charlesyoung7436 10 месяцев назад
The back fin was outside the pressure hull, so it must have been designed to fill with water. I saw a video of the Titan with its tail section opened up like a vintage car hood (hinged down the middle), to expose what looked like electrical and electronic components. Perhaps the sea water planned to be in the tail shorted out the battery that was mentioned as failing in the leaked text transcript. That could explain why the sub rose less than 100 feet after the ballast and landing legs were jettisoned (the two bulges on the back of the pressure hull contained vertical thrusters powered by two batteries).
@455buick6
@455buick6 10 месяцев назад
Unfortunately it was doomed as soon as it was built, it was done that badly
@irene_f.
@irene_f. 10 месяцев назад
@@charlesyoung7436 Why would they design it to fill with water? Wouldn't that be unecessary weight and dangerous because of what was under it??
@sergeanttrucker
@sergeanttrucker 10 месяцев назад
Stockton Rush was the maverick behind this disaster, cavalier about safety. 4 other people died because of it. Some justice that he was the 5th. 3 other were sophisticated people who didn't do their due diligence, and research this company and this submersible. The signs that this was a troubled company along with its leader were there. One of them taking his son into eternity with him. Serious failures and questionable judgment all the way around.
@katembender
@katembender 10 месяцев назад
I am most baffled by Paul-Henri Nargeolet's "okayness" with the Titan. It just seems like he would have been more leery. This was his second (?) trip down in that thing..or at least his second trip down with Rush.
@raneeshaw2129
@raneeshaw2129 10 месяцев назад
But they knew there was a chance of death hence why they weren’t called passengers they were called crew and had jobs to do
@derekday4832
@derekday4832 10 месяцев назад
No justice as Stockton Rush cannot, now, be put on trial and, ultimately, held accountable.
@Escort201
@Escort201 10 месяцев назад
​@@katembenderme too.. even in his Wikipedia page it speaks of a quote he made about deep water
@StephenShawCanada
@StephenShawCanada 10 месяцев назад
@@derekday4832 The owners of the Titanic were never held responsible. Why not? They invoked a maritime law from the late 1800s that prevents such financial losses in International waters. That maritime law still exists and can and probably will be invoked by OceanGate.
@MckWells
@MckWells 8 месяцев назад
Controlling a periscope or an unmanned vehicle with a commercial game controller makes sense. But to make a wireless commercial game controller your main input source on a vehicle you're inside of is crazy.
@AriBenDavid
@AriBenDavid 3 месяца назад
Great collection of video!
@ksmith8793
@ksmith8793 10 месяцев назад
Oceangate needs to pay for all the search and rescue. I can't believe they waited 8 hours before contacting anyone.
@blantech8978
@blantech8978 10 месяцев назад
With what money lol. they already done they gonna be bankrupt by end of the year. They just get the bill clsoe up shop already doing that anyways and you can't bleed a stone you won't get back 1/10 of that money from their company assets, and man with any personal liabilty died in the damn thing. Plus I am sure they got loans out who will want to help gut and auction off whats left they have to fight for. You can send them the bill but don't mean it will ever be paid sigh.
@Ryarios
@Ryarios 10 месяцев назад
They’ve stopped all operations. At best, the government might be able to squeeze some money out of selling the support vessel beyond what’s still owed on it. That would get all muddled with the wrongful death lawsuits that are sure to come anyway. I don’t think airlines are charged for S&R costs of downed aircraft either.
@Wildstar40
@Wildstar40 10 месяцев назад
@@blantech8978 What ever is left will be recovered. Uncle Sam don't mess around. If it there they'll find it recover it and auction it to the highest bidder right down to the last nickel.
@Martell-XO
@Martell-XO 10 месяцев назад
It’s consistent with their stellar ethical and safe practices.
@gailmcn
@gailmcn 10 месяцев назад
@@Ryarios the support vessel, I assume you mean the Mother Ship, was leased for the short period of time when dives were feasible.
@DarkWorldConversations
@DarkWorldConversations 10 месяцев назад
After doing the research into the Titan, it was not a question of IF but when it was going to fail. I am a big Titanic fan but there was no way in hell I would have gone in that submersible.
@RipTheJackR
@RipTheJackR 10 месяцев назад
I wouldnt go there in James Cameron's rig. In retrospect it looks just more and more insane. What a waste.
@rextrek
@rextrek 10 месяцев назад
you can do it already - I have a few times ...in VR ..its as close to the REAL thing as you can get - you even have your own sub..comes with claustrophobia..and the feeling of DRED the weight of 2 miles of ocean above you- gives ...........for me - I have to be in the right headspace to even play it
@Kris-bx5qj
@Kris-bx5qj 10 месяцев назад
exactly, it was a ticking Time-Bomb. waiting to go off, thats the best way of putting it.
@Kris-bx5qj
@Kris-bx5qj 10 месяцев назад
the Titatnic Wreckage is a Grave sight, where 1,500 people purished some 100+ years ago. Respect it, and let it be.
@Kris-bx5qj
@Kris-bx5qj 10 месяцев назад
Grave Site*
@questionmark1152
@questionmark1152 10 дней назад
It's amazing, 3 little blips are a massive submarine imploding.
@johnreagan5852
@johnreagan5852 Месяц назад
I worked in the oilfields most my life. Safety is a must you just can not ignore the issue. I've seen bad things happen on drilling rigs. It sounds like ocean gate ignore Safety for profit. 😢 Makes me very sad that this happened.
@SuperCosmicMutantSquid
@SuperCosmicMutantSquid 10 месяцев назад
It's amazing that anyone could think material that was not good enough to be used on planes anymore was good enough for a water vehicle that would go through even harsher conditions. None of this sounds right yet it happened.
@tea4223
@tea4223 10 месяцев назад
...and no receipt or record of the sale or transaction... something's fishy.
@kamilebrahimoff3589
@kamilebrahimoff3589 10 месяцев назад
Yes, I agree.
@garychase8637
@garychase8637 10 месяцев назад
considering carbon fiber in an aircraft had to withstand about 14.5 lbs per square foot to hold air IN and was rejected and then used in a vessel "built" to withstand a pressure of roughly 6000 lbs per SQUARE INCH TO HOLD WATER OUT is tantamount to murder it is no wonder the company brass acted the way they did.
@dragonflydreamer7658
@dragonflydreamer7658 10 месяцев назад
Your future enjoy it.... THREADS
@dragonflydreamer7658
@dragonflydreamer7658 10 месяцев назад
our future enjoy it.... THREADS
@ElonTrump19
@ElonTrump19 10 месяцев назад
Russian submarines made with titanium suffered brittle fracture failure in the hull systems due to titanium's inherent strong lattice structure that tends to breakdown after repeated expansion and contraction, like that of a submarine diving and surfacing during normal operations. This was known in the early 1990's. Carbon fiber is substantially stronger laterally and therefore far more inflexible. It is the worst material you could ever use in the deep ocean and probably in the for any ship's hull period. It is meant for static pressure not dynamic.
@johnswimcat
@johnswimcat 10 месяцев назад
I don't think carbon fibre is "meant" for pressure at all. It is very strong in tension but has no compressive strength at all. Because of its high tensile strength and low elasticity it tends to fail when subjected to side impact loads in a composite. There is no way I would use it in the shell of a vessel subjected to high external pressure. One might as well use sheep's wool fibres to hold the epoxy resin in place while it sets, literally.
@borregoayudando1481
@borregoayudando1481 10 месяцев назад
​@@johnswimcatso the resin the CF was suspended in while ship was whole cracked and the CF folded up like it was a tee in a vacuum storage bag
@ericjohnson8001
@ericjohnson8001 2 месяца назад
As a person who was trained in commercial diving I can't understand why ppl think carbon fiber is some kind of indestructible material- it is very strong in comparison to it's weight and density but it's basically just souped up fiberglass.
@domino8820
@domino8820 6 месяцев назад
All the warnings he was giving by professionals and he ignored it the man was clearly on a suicide mission and was scared to die alone so brought unsuspecting people with him to be doomed scary never kno what somebody thinking smh
@Raelven
@Raelven 10 месяцев назад
The first photo of Titan that I saw, after it had gone silent, my first, gut reaction, was "No way would I get near that, it just looks unsailable, in any way." It factually frightened me.
@emmagibbs-smith2989
@emmagibbs-smith2989 10 месяцев назад
I was the same. After seeing my first photos of Titan I called it a Heath Robinson submersible. I worked with diving bells and ROVs for thirty years.
@mcsmith732
@mcsmith732 10 месяцев назад
Claustrophobia prohibits me from even getting into a vehicle like that, much less getting bolted in from the outside or dropping down into the ocean for a couple miles into the complete darkness. Trapped. And then there was the creaking...... No. Just no.
@mikoto7693
@mikoto7693 10 месяцев назад
@@mcsmith732I get that. Fear of being locked in, trapped, would have prevented me from getting inside. The fact that they’re bolted in with no way to escape is enough for me.
@dblackout1107
@dblackout1107 10 месяцев назад
I actually thought I had deja vu the first time I saw it. I’m big into Titanic and around 2 years ago got really into another Titanic binge. Amidst the videos I came across, I found out a company was offering sub dives down to the Titanic. I remember watching a video with some sub somewhere on RU-vid where you have to get bolted inside it and the interior is a bleak mat with little in the way of physical control. It was a manufacturing process video I think. I remember thinking it looked a little out of spec compared to others I had seen before. I remember thinking that looks incredibly bush league. When I saw this story I was like “holy shit something about this seems familiar but I’ve never heard of Titan.” Well it was familiar. It used to be called Cyclops II and I specifically remember that name. Crazy when something comes full circle. Very rarely does something you think is a death trap ever get confirmed to be a death trap
@RideAcrossTheRiver
@RideAcrossTheRiver 10 месяцев назад
I like how you compare that 'star ship' to OceanGate--lots of similarity there! But you're wrong to call the group 'explorers'. They were expensive tourists in the hands of a sociopath and visiting a gravesite. The boy along for the ride expressed trepidation about the whole thing.
@RideAcrossTheRiver
@RideAcrossTheRiver 10 месяцев назад
@@stacer1962 What?
@Moouse44
@Moouse44 10 месяцев назад
Wait ah minute sociopath, I heard that Mr Rush of Ocean Gate his wife was a descendant of a person that died on the titanic. I felt spooked out when I heard that! Let me check again! Rip to those people.
@RideAcrossTheRiver
@RideAcrossTheRiver 10 месяцев назад
@@Moouse44 Sociopath--what? Also, how can a man and his wife be descended from one person?
@ImSoCoolChyren2
@ImSoCoolChyren2 10 месяцев назад
Think he means. Stockton Bush's WIFE is a descendant.
@Kimber123
@Kimber123 9 месяцев назад
Actually, it was the boy's mother who was supposed to go with her husband, but gave her seat to her son b/c he wanted to go so badly. The story that the boy didn't want to go is just plain erroneous.
@Keepingthefaith72
@Keepingthefaith72 6 месяцев назад
I missed the part where the US Navy revealed the terrifying truth Does anyone know what it was .....?
@rebecculousrk
@rebecculousrk 3 месяца назад
Hindsight is 20/20 as they say, but given all the concerns expressed by so many well-qualified people, to have risked lives and launched this submersible was insanely irresponsible. I suspect they all had to sign waivers releasing OceanGate from liability, but Stockton Rush's estate, and/or OceanGate should be held responsible for these deaths.
@johnnyg3166
@johnnyg3166 10 месяцев назад
US Navy heard a noise consistent with the noise of an implosion. But the Navy could not state that the implosion sound was from the titan. That had to be verified. It could be possible that the sound came from some other source. Therefore, the search and rescue efforts continued until 1. The oxygen supply went well past the 96 hour mark with no possibility the titan passengers would still be alive or 2. The implosion sound has been verified to be the titan imploding. If the search and rescue were called off on the base of just an implosion sound, and that was not the titan, then it would have been possible that the titan surfaced but the passengers suffocated anyways because the search had been called off. The navy doesn’t guess.
@Unknown17
@Unknown17 10 месяцев назад
They're lying to us. You can't tell me they heard this sound but couldn't tell where it was coming from. What good would any listening device be if it couldn't detect where the sound came from? You can continue the search just to "cover all the bases" without telling a preposterous lie.
@johnnyg3166
@johnnyg3166 10 месяцев назад
@@Unknown17 they heard the sound consistent with the noise of an implosion. But they can’t say yep the titan imploded because they don’t know for sure. The navy may not have been aware that there were dives on the titanic that day. So, until the titan is confirmed imploded, the search would, and should, continue.
@andrewmontgomery8428
@andrewmontgomery8428 10 месяцев назад
I saw a comment on another video somewhere that really summed up Stockton Rush. Though he was wealthy by layman standards, he really wasn’t wealthy enough to really pursue this type of endeavor. Hence, that’s part of the reason he was constantly cutting corners and doing everything on the cheap. He could not afford to really be in this field.
@Smedley1947
@Smedley1947 10 месяцев назад
According to the interwebs , his net worth was only 12 million, so yes , he really was engaging in a pursuit out of his price point.
@enigmawyoming5201
@enigmawyoming5201 2 месяца назад
Thank you for providing my “white noise” I can listen to while going to sleep. Thanks to you, I can delete my $7.99/year subscription of ocean waves on the beach.
@dannyspl
@dannyspl 26 дней назад
Many have agreed the Titanic disaster could have been avoided if the ocean liner simply would have struck the iceberg head on instead of trying to turn not knowing how deep the iceberg and how far out the underside protruded that damaged the ship. The forward bulkhead would have collapsed but the ship would have remained stable and floated due to its design.
@elskid206
@elskid206 10 месяцев назад
How ridiculous it must have been for those professional to be looking for something on the top of the ocean when it was at the bottom. Having spent 5 years in the Coast Guard, there's nothing more frustrating than it be sent on a wild "sub" chase. That rescue operation was nothing but theater.
@markmilan8365
@markmilan8365 10 месяцев назад
a very expensive theater
@doomoo5365
@doomoo5365 10 месяцев назад
But real life training also
@tubee2b
@tubee2b 10 месяцев назад
@@markmilan8365 Like shooting missiles at a balloon.
@HLZBORO738
@HLZBORO738 10 месяцев назад
Looks like the biden administration ordered that they didn't say anything for days because The media had bad stories on the administration.
@sprinkle61
@sprinkle61 10 месяцев назад
@@tubee2b Now we know why China delayed our shipment of giant jet-mounted needles...
@pwu8194
@pwu8194 10 месяцев назад
Actually, it was disclosed the sound detected by the NAVY was passed on to the unified commander of the search and rescue. It was the commander who chose to continue with the search (i.e., to err on the side of caution) until there was proof the sub had imploded.
@AiluropodaPanda
@AiluropodaPanda 10 месяцев назад
That's been bugging me. I read that it was disclosed. It makes sense to me that you'd keep searching until you had confirmation. If they did it early enough, it would make sense that they could have stopped talking about it before it became a media frenzy and just slipped through the cracks. Though there's this other narrative that it was kept secret for some reason. As far as I can tell, that was started by some nutball who read a headline and decided that Biden was trying to redirect media attention from something else by timing the announcement. Now so many people are repeating that they didn't tell anyone.
@strayedarticle2838
@strayedarticle2838 10 месяцев назад
Plus the Coast Guard has a massive annual budget, but they have to use all of it so they can get more next year. They definitely wouldn't pass up a chance to spend taxpayers money.
@strayedarticle2838
@strayedarticle2838 10 месяцев назад
@@djuarakurniawan4738 True.
@Kitsambler
@Kitsambler 10 месяцев назад
... because the sound detected by Navy system was not specific as to cause or location.
@gailmcn
@gailmcn 10 месяцев назад
@@strayedarticle2838 The CG has a very small budget, and not adequate for the thousands of miles of coast and sea that they have to provide services for. one of the worst budgets in the military branches.
@bammersmith5993
@bammersmith5993 9 месяцев назад
Seems to me they would have had a cable hooked to the sub.They would have had a way to talk to the boat by a cable running along the main cable.
@ashleyponiszkis8224
@ashleyponiszkis8224 11 дней назад
It is quite sad that they passed away in Such Devastating circumstances....
@s1acr457
@s1acr457 10 месяцев назад
It probably was safer than crossing the street, if the street was made of lit dynamite with a forecast of raining hand grenades.
@richardduerr9983
@richardduerr9983 10 месяцев назад
Hah!!! My favorite comment so far!!!
@sharondrury5676
@sharondrury5676 10 месяцев назад
😂 I needed a laugh. I have my drink all over me. This is such a sad, unnecessary and expensive waste of time and especially human life. At 78 I would attempt Everest before going in a sub like that one. I do not expect the Navy to tell us that they heard a sound. 🇺🇸
@Reallifeintheblue
@Reallifeintheblue 10 месяцев назад
As a Naval Engineer on Columbia and Virginia Class subs, these subs made out of steal can only go 1600 feet. Ocean Gate had no business sending that joke of a vessel to the depth
@kennethimmeke6309
@kennethimmeke6309 4 месяца назад
They took unnecessary risks to save money, hid the truth about safety, didn't do safety testing, and it cost their lives and the future of the company.
@FrancisMcAnarney
@FrancisMcAnarney 15 дней назад
well, with the tons of pressure pressing inward upon the structure at a depth of 12,000 + feet, one tiny imperfection can be the breaking point for the entire submersible. as multiple dives would allow water and pressure to constantly creep and penetrate deeper and deeper into the fibers, eventually no amount of ballast release could overcome the weight of the craft. it is battery powered and salt water and batteries do not mix. loss of communications was probably the first warning sign that they were in trouble, loss of battery power additionally created loss of propulsion, lights air circulation pumps and navigation systems. multiple deep dives created unobservable stress fractures in the integrity of the craft and it imploded like a fluorescent light bulb.
@lawdawgfair9611
@lawdawgfair9611 10 месяцев назад
I believe it to be an error to say the submersible was lowered into water once on site. It was towed on frame to save money unlike previous trips. Likely jarring the unit for hundreds of miles and possibly weakening it.
@himoffthequakeroatbox4320
@himoffthequakeroatbox4320 10 месяцев назад
Film I saw showed it on a raft, that sank and tipped it in.
@StephenShawCanada
@StephenShawCanada 10 месяцев назад
Any jostling it experienced while being towed is nothing in comparison to the pressures it experienced at depth.
@lawdawgfair9611
@lawdawgfair9611 10 месяцев назад
@@StephenShawCanada certainly. Compression wear and tear might be the mode of failure but vibrating will weaken just about anything over time.
@daviddesousa3178
@daviddesousa3178 9 месяцев назад
​@lawdawgfair9611 yup. The vibration alone can and most certainly cause some problems.
@linanicolia1363
@linanicolia1363 7 месяцев назад
Good observation. Did not help !
@roybarger4179
@roybarger4179 10 месяцев назад
Having had the unpleasant task (being a Coast Guard Chief Petty Officer) of interacting with family of deceased individuals) the balance between communicating reality with expressing compassion is not an easy task. It was known earlier that it was likely hopeless, but to suddenly extinguish the loved one's hope would have been a cruelty. They needed a little time to process the probability.
@xavierminchello8431
@xavierminchello8431 10 месяцев назад
I WOULD HAVE TOLD LOVED ONES THE TITAN WENT “ POP GOES THE WEASEL “
@sparsh415
@sparsh415 10 месяцев назад
@@xavierminchello8431 Immature comment. You must be very young and haven`t experienced death yet.
@Justsomebodyelse235
@Justsomebodyelse235 10 месяцев назад
@@xavierminchello8431People like you need the tree giving you air to be chopped down.
@Suelynngrr
@Suelynngrr 10 месяцев назад
I think it is more cruel to drag out the possibilities than to define what actually happened. At least family members would have been spared the agony of imagining what their loved ones may have been experiencing down there. The drama was excruciating!
@rhemmiel
@rhemmiel 6 месяцев назад
Now that makes sense!
@72nortoncommando
@72nortoncommando 4 месяца назад
Anymore information regarding relating decent rate..being way to fast and ascending rate critically slower any possibilities? was water intrusion a possibility from the start? Why wasn’t decent rate a concern with Rush or the crew topside?
@duncanidaho2097
@duncanidaho2097 2 месяца назад
Wrong. The Navy may use game controllers for periscope servo motor, never for directional control of a vessel. Many corners were cut by the nutcase Rush.
@armusc757
@armusc757 10 месяцев назад
A rich man's hubris cost lives. A terrible lack of humility causes lifelong pain for so many.😔
@coleuk8817
@coleuk8817 10 месяцев назад
One aspect of this that seems to have captured less attention is the fact that those on board Titan had no way of getting out of the craft from the inside. So even if it had miraculously floated back to the surface somewhere, they would have been totally reliant on rescuers finding it and undoing the external bolts to open the nose and release them before oxygen supplies ran out. Perishing that way would arguably have been even more horrific.
@beverleymason9038
@beverleymason9038 10 месяцев назад
One of the bolts wasn't even secured properly, in a previous trip, it has been revealed.
@MrsGlynn07
@MrsGlynn07 10 месяцев назад
And there wasn’t even a beacon to help locate them in this event!
@dboozer4
@dboozer4 10 месяцев назад
Imagine a fire breaking out on that thing...
@weekendwarrior3420
@weekendwarrior3420 10 месяцев назад
Big deal. People on an airplane have no way to escape either if something happens in-flight.
@Neelysmusic
@Neelysmusic 10 месяцев назад
Do you think they would tell us even now if more horrific events did in fact happen? I don't. I think the whole truth isn't really out there. Probably won't be.
@matthewlittle480
@matthewlittle480 16 дней назад
Ocean gate could/should have done a better job and used better materials in the construction of the Cyclops III. It sounds as if corners were cut, leading to serious safety issues. Seeing that the ocean environment is much more complex than space, outside agencies should be the ones certifying and classifying submersibles. OSHA should have been involved from the start, and more intense scrutiny should have been focused on the design and depth operating range.
@nongreaterthnHE
@nongreaterthnHE 6 месяцев назад
How ironic and sad that just like the Titanic, the sub was was rushed in construction and voyage in order to fit a time agenda.
@gasovensforqcult
@gasovensforqcult 10 месяцев назад
I think a bunch of young engineers are going to find it difficult to find engineering jobs with Oceangate on their resumes. Time for grad school and/or a career change
@blantech8978
@blantech8978 10 месяцев назад
Pft they get jobs they were interns lol If every college grad had the shitty place the interned at holding them back a lot of people would have no jobs sigh.. I mean in 5 years no one will give a shit it was just them getting college credits, not like they were the lead tech on it guy used cheap interns for most his labor force lol
@robertbolivarr8363
@robertbolivarr8363 10 месяцев назад
1. The 3 passengers go onboard the Titan coffin by believing the words of Stockton Rush. 2. The passengers go onboard thinking that we are safe having Paul Henry with us. Paul has been there many times to see the Titanic. Me, I don't give a flying A if I'm with Captain America just to see the Titan alone I won't even go in there.
@SnowbordrWRX
@SnowbordrWRX 19 дней назад
What is that that dipped under the water at 11:27? Is that a dolphin or the sub?
@douglasfoster2215
@douglasfoster2215 6 месяцев назад
What a way to go. Hearing the cracking in the rear...jeez.
@demsandlibsareswinecancer4667
@demsandlibsareswinecancer4667 10 месяцев назад
You'll notice that there is not one Navy submarine with a porthole. That is not by chance.
@fivespeed42
@fivespeed42 10 месяцев назад
Still can't wrap my mind around the fact that this thing had no GPS or a beacon of any kind
@TheBkmillerjr
@TheBkmillerjr 2 месяца назад
Bottom Line: Location Data did not affect the result. If it had followed Classing Rules, Navigation and Data standards would have been far more rigorous.
@jasonpoteet4470
@jasonpoteet4470 Месяц назад
Here, here!!! I couldn't agree more!!
@johncoulthrust3859
@johncoulthrust3859 8 месяцев назад
Crazy. This vessel was made in USA, registered in Bahamas, and you telling me none of these countries could have insisted on testing and safety regulations for this sub. International waters? Tell that to the families of these super rich playboys. We always wait till the horse out the stable to bolt the door.
@michaeld5888
@michaeld5888 10 месяцев назад
Was the carbon fibre past its use by date or best before date? In some ways it was truly amazing that this concoction of glue and fine carbon thread lasted the number of dives it did.
@Smedley1947
@Smedley1947 10 месяцев назад
You can tell by the smell if the carbon fiber is past it's pull date. Mr Rush should have known that.
@beeble2003
@beeble2003 10 месяцев назад
Boeing has denied supplying any carbon fibre to either OceanGate or Stockton Rush.
@TheJohnbjunior
@TheJohnbjunior 10 месяцев назад
Carbon fiber bicycle frames crack & break, steel, titanium, not so much.
@byronjensen-vb1xv
@byronjensen-vb1xv 10 месяцев назад
I saw a piece that said the carbon fibre used was bought from an aircraft company that rejected it for airplane construction. Bought at a reduced cost.
@linabasilisk1955
@linabasilisk1955 10 месяцев назад
Mr. Rush had some...unorthodox ideas about how to build and run submarines. He used the wrong materials to build it, he used a wireless controller to operate the entire submarine, and he didn't want experience sub operators (he felt they were too old and he preferred "inspirational" young people). I think Mr. Rush has proved why the orthodox ways are sometimes best. Safety is not an area to skimp on. The trouble with making history is that it can lead to becoming history.
@odochartaighofodonegal2351
@odochartaighofodonegal2351 10 месяцев назад
Humanity's record as it concerns 'test pilots' is dismal- this fact should have proved prohibitive. The outcome was poetically just, especially considering the motivational folly of visiting a mass grave 'for fun'.
@57Jimmy
@57Jimmy 10 месяцев назад
Stockton Rush must have been a Niagara Falls barrel maker in a previous life. Dig deep enough and I bet those barrels failed too.
@direktive4
@direktive4 10 месяцев назад
he spared every expense
@Epic_C
@Epic_C 10 месяцев назад
He was a woke activist that wanted to diversity hire
@Unknown17
@Unknown17 10 месяцев назад
People are always screeching, "Think outside the box! Think outside the box!" Well, boxes exist for a reason. Those "boxes" contain tradition, social norms, experience and safety.
@oliver13809
@oliver13809 7 месяцев назад
I’m amazed that the passengers went for it. All of them were intelligent folk.
@deathlord7918
@deathlord7918 11 дней назад
i remember hearing at the time that the Navy did say they heard "something that could of been an implosion" to stop the search because the navy thinks they heard an implosion would of been a mistake
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