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Elly! You are a superstar. This is everything I try to explain to people. I have found the documents by WWF and Greenpeace who are explaining that boycotting could actually result in more damage to our environment - but they are not as loud to scream about this as they were when they first raised the issue. Not only does Palm give a bigger yield of oil, the palm also has a longer production life than most other vegetable oil crops so less land is required and less regrowth. I know that many plantations "bought" their RSPO certificates when it was first introduced but I believe much of that has now been stamped out though there are still farms that don't have the certificate. There are also many other countries that now grow Palm including in Africa - I'd love to see the company "Palm done Right" here. We also have a large plantation here in North Queensland and I wish they would sell to Australia but they export it. People would be surprised at just how much Palm they consume. It is sold as frying oil to fast food shops so chances are, people are eating it without knowing. I had a man have a go at me once while his daughter was eating a Nutella filled donut - I told him to check the jar next time he was in the supermarket. I was surprised a few years ago when I learned biofuel had palm as this would conflict the reasons people chose it. I do find it funny that people do hang on to one topic without thinking of the bigger picture. How many people consider how much land was cleared to build their house, the roads they drive on or even the land cleared to build a vineyard so they can have a glass of wine. It's definitely a tricky subject but I think you have covered it well.
Thank you so much Keeley, wow, great points and I agree with you 100%!! I feel like I only scratched the surface with this video. Sounds like you know a lot about it and have had to defend your use of it over the years. Great to hear your thoughts, thanks again.
@@EllysEverydaySoapMaking I researched for over a year before deciding on my recipe. Given I was already making lotions and creams it didn't make sense to be against palm in my soap. Many emulsifiers and thickeners in cream making are either natural and palm derived, or synthetic and palm free. I had to make a choice there and decided I wanted natural over synthetic. Definitely not an easy decision and lots of defending.
I take my hat off to you. The only defending I have to do is in a video here and there. Good for you Keeley. You're reasonable and balanced in your decision making. Nothing is perfect unfortunately.
Well said. That is a well thought-out response and shows that informed choices can be made, not only in 'specialist' undertakings like home-made soap making but also in a wider application to everyday life choices in other realms, such as in cooking, clothing, home heating, vehicle choices and more.
Palm oil cultivation helps locals provide for their families & bring in steady income. I stopped using palm oil after hearing the controversy however, this video was confirmation as to why I would like to use it again. Thank you Elly for sharing your perspective.
Oh love this.... i am Nigerian.. we produce palm oil and use lots of it.. i had done a video on 100% palm oil soap weeks ago.. am glad to have you do this one. Very informative.
Palm oil serves a good purpose. Like everything else we need to make wise, educated choices. I choose to not use palm oil in my soaps but only because I live in Texas. I am up to my armpits in cattle. I have access to really good, grass-fed, pasture raised, long horn tallow on the hoof. It makes more sense for me to use what lives here local to me. It makes sense to me.
Elly!! thanks for bringing up this topic. I live in Guatemala, in Central America. We used to be a country called the Land of Eternal Spring, but the climate has changed so much... In my country we have the jungle of Petén (where Tikal, the Mayan city, is) and this jungle used to be a lung of the world, they used to say, but it has been corrupted and severely deforested irresponsibly for the precious and extremely hard woods there and to plant palm plants to produce oil. And the government does nothing, only receive illegal money as a bribe to allow the looting of the jungle and the planting of palm plants. It is very sad to live in such a beautiful country like mine, with years of corrupt governments. As a people we hope that this will soon change, God willing. Recently, I bought a pound of Mazola shortening (on the label it says palm oil) just to test a batch of soap and be able to check its texture, hardness, properties, and I think it will be the only one I will ever buy. And yes, it really is very cheap, like 1.30 american dollars per pound, but the cost behind it is very high if it is not RSPO and here in Guatemala we do not have RSPO palm oil as far as I know. I love your channel, your recipes, your way of life (I try to live very similar to the way you do when cooking, dressing or making, and I think a lot like you, and I live in a semi-rural part of my town) Very grateful to you for so much knowledge!! A hug!!
Deforestation because they razed the jungle to plant the palm plant. In the process they eliminated many native plant species and left many animals without habitat. In addition to poaching some wild cats, exotic birds and many others and stealing the precious woods, we call it here because of its extreme hardness (from a variety of trees! converting palm cultivation into an extension monoculture).
Thank you so much Karin, I love that you care about this, as we all should. The situation is far from perfect, no matter what we do, but staying aware and making the best choices we can is a good thing.
In some areas sensitive, diverse habitats are cleared for palm oil plantations. The diversity of species that were once there cannot live on palm trees alone.
Such a hot topic. I use rspo palm oil in my Soaps and it improves the quality of the soap. You explained how the industry works well and the farming of palm. I'm a believer that palm is still a vegan product but others don't have the same view due to deforestation. Land and habitat was cleared many centuries ago for farming but the difference now is we know how to do it sustainably. Land will continue to be cleared even just for housing and infrastructure. Like you said, if we stop using palm, it just also means we then need expand in other supply chains. I too have educated people that palm oil is used in everything we consume and is usually listed as vegetable oil.
I like palm oil. I would rather support people who are growing and harvesting palm oil than the deforestation for hearts of palm. I actually bought some red palm oil! I was just starting and my soap came out fantastic, except it came out Turmeric yellow! It's beautiful!
Hi Elly. I'm from Malaysia and palm oil really our main oil here for cooking and other things and it is also the cheapest oil here and the palm oil here is in liquid oil. I learn to make soap from your channel. I use the soapcalc to get the recipe and I make it using palm oil and it turns out wonderful. Thank you Elly.
Yes Nurul Hidayah is right. I live in Malaysia too and really, we cannot escape palm oil. It's used by most of our hawkers and in our restaurants. It is also more affordable for Malaysian citizens. Some of us may not be able to afford the more expensive cooking oils. And because palm oil has a high smoke point and no cholesterol, it is the best affordable oil to use for Malaysian cuisine which involves a lot of frying. I want to believe (and pray) that the large palm oil companies here in Malaysia are getting better at their sustainability practises. Elly, think this is my first time commenting here. I do love your channel and your approach to soap making. I have been making soap for several years and enjoy watching your videos to reinforce what I have learnt before. We have a very similar soap making style and vibe. Sometimes I don't feel very confident about the way I go about making mine, and seeing you make and talk about it helps me realise I am going in the right direction. Plus your videos are just so calming to watch. Thank you very much.
Hi, greetings from Colombia! The liquid palm oil I found here is palmolein... is that the same as what you have in Malaysia? For soap making it seems to have the same qualities as palm oil... I have just started using it, but it seems to be wonderful in soap!!
Hi Didi, yes we have the same palm olein in Malaysia. It's available in all our supermarkets. We all just refer to it as palm oil and I don't think people here even realise there is a difference 😅. It's in a liquid state all the time.
What a coincidence that you should talk of Palm Oil! I was cooking dinner, and ran out of olive oil. In fact, I had no way of finishing the dinner preparation. Then, I remembered that I had sustainable palm oil shelved away with my soap making supplies. 🙂Though a bit greasy for my taste, it got the job done. Thank you for your boldness in sharing on a touchy subject!
This was extremely helpful. I found your channel and I’m grateful for it as I have been wanting to make soap for the past 20 years and I finally have the opportunity to start. And this is exactly a question that I had. My daughter commented about palm oil, and we both left our discussion wanting to each do more research. I appreciate you speaking about questioning all of our ingredients in all aspects of our lives. I believe that it really is a balance. I also believe that supporting sustainable products is more helpful than avoiding them altogether because there is always a side effect. I had decided to start with a Castile soap, but I do wonder about the carbon footprint of any olive oil I would be using. I live in the United States. For all I know, there may be sustainable oils right in my own backyard so I will continue to do research but I’m thrilled with your channel. So informative, so practical. Love it love it love it and thank you.
Very well presented and factual, the pros and cons of Palm oil laid bare. I personally love the feel of soaps made with Palm oil. It gives the bars a creamier lather and harder bar. What's not to like? I also only buy sustainable Palm oil from reliable soap suppliers in New Zealand. Thanks for such an awesome presentation. 👌
Thanks so much Barbara, I'm very pleased you enjoyed the video. It's such a shame there are so many problems with many of our ingredients, I agree it makes beautiful soap.
What an excellent presentation! Your kind heart sings to us as you pick your words so kindly! I look forward to see how you showing the way to use it. Just love your attention to details! Thank you for sharing because I always learn something useful!!
Thanks for this video. I agree that as long as it's done as ethically as possible, it's the best we can do in most circumstances, other than applying pressure to get better labelling
I was totally absorbed in this (for me) very educational video Elly. When I began making soap 3 years ago I purchased some palm oil and used it but never bought more because of the controversy and also judgmental comments I read towards some soap makers who used it, and liked it. I have since done research myself on this touchy subject and am changing my views, even more so after your "must watch" video with much more information than I took the time to search for myself. Your calm, well thought out presentation on the why and why not, and delving into all the habitat and sustainability issues on using palm oil, I feel much better informed on making the decision to use it again in my soap. Thank you Elly for all the hours of time time you put into showing us all sides on this soapy topic! 🐾🥰
There are always a few haters. I agree, most soap makers I know are wonderful people who care and enjoy learning and appreciating other perspectives. Some of the soap making groups on FB are just awful. I'm very glad to have a safe, supportive place of my own now.
Me encanta tu explicación, no tenía ni idea del aceite de palma 🌴, estoy haciendo jabón y lo voy a incorporar, gracias muy buena clase, saludos desde Argentina.
You are always good. Infact I was going through some documentaries on palm oil yesterday. Thanks for doing such a great job in explaining the pros and cons. ❤
That was very informative Elly, thanks. It must have taken a lot of time researching (and organising notes) to produce that. I can attest to the fabulous members group, I'm so glad I joined! 😊 Looking forward to part 2, while I work out where I sit on this particular topic.
Great video yet again Elly. Yes and as you state there are so many similarities between Palm Oil and Tallow. The acid profile and the hardness/longevity /stability are so similar. I source my tallow from a grass fed regenerative farm in NSW.
I think your presentation was wonderful. What caught my attention most was.... your honesty... people don't want to use palm oil in soap, but then maybe lose sight of things they consume that contain palm oil. Personally, I have concerns about animal habitat loss. Again... I so appreciate you and what you do. Putting it out there in an honest fashion is commendable. ❤
Thank you for being so thorough and thoughtful about such a complex subject.👏 I never used palm oil for the first few years I made soap, but the past year or two have tried it in a few recipes that I really like. I bought the culinary Spectrum "organic all-vegetable shortening" available here in the US: it is 100% palm oil, Fair Trade, RSPO, and Rainforest Alliance-certified. I hope that means that the farmers have better working conditions and get a fairer price for their oil, and feel it important to support those who are trying to produce more sustainably. A bonus is that this shortening is "no stir" and ready to use. I'm not in the least tempted to cook with it, though! I'm still happy with my palm-free recipes and don't know how long palm oil will be on my shelf, but it's been nice to have a choice and try different formulas. However, as a small-batch maker who doesn't sell, I don't have the cost constraints of someone who depends on soap making for a living. Always there are trade-offs and complications!
Absolutely. Well said! You and I have similar views about it and similar circumstances. There are many factors to consider depending on individual circumstances.
Very informative video, many thanks for this. I will source sustainable Palm oil for soap now and feel better equipped for any questions I may get asked about it! Although nowhere near the point to start selling it, yet. Thanks so much Elly, looking forward to part 2! X
Thank you for this, l try to live by wants and needs in my consuming of any products. And quite often feel overwhelmed by how much choice and accessibility to butters/oils and fats we have, and in my soap making l have realised to make a beautiful soap it's just not needed! I am grateful for this earth, and all its abundance l try to limit my wants and I would rather see that land returned back to its natural habitat. I know that's not likely I don't feel comfortable with monoculture on such a large scale. Again thank you, l really do appreciate your honesty and knowledge ❤
Got to give it to ya, great approach and research done to discuss this controversial oil. Palm isnt going away, it is in lots of products. Banning it would as you highlighted only mean another oil needed and potentially just create another problem. Absolutely fantastic work put into this vid Elly. Really intelligent and thought provoking. 🤔🤔🤔Much appreciated. 😜😜😜
Great video! Thanks for the nuanced explanation and emphasis on examining all our consumer choices rather than oversimplifying morality. I think there are probably issues with production of many common soap ingredients, including cacao butter, coconut oil, and other products that may not be fair trade or sustainable... not to mention the footprint of internationally shipping all these products. We all need to learn more about where things come from and make better choices, but it doesn't have to be all or nothing. It's possible to reduce consumption, or try to purchase from more ethical suppliers, regardless of what we're buying.
Hey friend. I hung around to the end. Thanks for the research and your perspective. I started hot process soapmaking with the "Holy trinity" of oils, coconut, palm and olive. I use Manteca instead of palm now. I kind of find that to be gross, but palm is so expensive in comparison. So 6 of one, half a dozen of another. My recipe makes a wonderful bar. I have never had time to do the research. Thanks for your take.
@@EllysEverydaySoapMaking very welcome! I always enjoy your natural herb additives and how simply charming your soaps turn out!! The rosemary from the garden, a little while back was wonderful!!
I would like to suggest this video be used in teaching students how to put together a thorough and balanced discussion on a controversial topic such as the use of palm oil. Excellent presentation Elly. I learnt heaps myself.
@@-PORK-CHOP- I’m sure as both Elly and Soyandshea acknowledge there’s lots more involved however I still hold that this was an attempt at a balanced look at a controversial topic. I knew the use of palm oil was widespread. I didn’t know that growing equivalent yielding crops would require much more land use for instance. I didn’t know that palm oil was the closest in semblance to animal fats. I still stand with my comment. Like Elly, I have to add, I believe there’s a bigger picture when it comes to our responsibility in living sustainably. By the way, your comment agrees with my statement about this being a controversial topic. And, I do still have a lot more to learn.
Great video Elly!! I also did lots of research when I first started making soap to find the most ethical way to use this product. You make some amazingly valid points about being precious about not using it in soaps yet buying so many products at the supermarket that are full of them and most likely not ethically obtained. Love this video. Your hair is looking lovely too. 😊❤x kind regards. Cassandra Hill
Thanks Cassandra! That means a lot. Thanks for your comment about my hair. Oh geez I struggle to get it to behave!!! I am enjoying going grey to be honest. It's freeing, and I think it suits me 😄
@@EllysEverydaySoapMaking it does suit you indeed, with that gentle wave too. I adore grey hair. I am actually longing to go grey but cannot find any grey hairs! I hope you are having a good week so far. 😊
This was really informative and great learned and gaining many more information about palm oil.l am happy you spoke about it.♥️i really love palm oil in my Soap Making 💯❤️
Wow Awesome Elly you are so informative - I love Palm oil I use for Soap makings & lots used in cookies plus palm oil helped me lose weight too..Eat less meat be healthy use more Palm oil or any veggies oils is good for health and excellent for skin too
Thank you for your research and thoughtful commentary. I agree we all need to do our part and avoid certain products including palm oil. However, in many countries with lax laws on labeling, there's no way to know for sure if palm oil is in the product. Also there are some people who are allergic to oils such as coconut or avocado. We may all try to avoid it the best we can but I think it's virtually impossible to completely avoid palm oil.
This was a great video, but I can understand your being hesitant to produce it. I do use palm oil because, like you said, it's everywhere and it isn't going away. I always buy it from reputable suppliers that obtain it in a sustainable manner, even though it does cost more. Thank you for this video.
You've shed a lot of light on this topic. I appreciate you doing that. I'm a soap maker and I've been trying to avoid palm, knowing just how impossible it is to avoid, even ingredients like waxes and surfactants are "naturally derived" from palm. Its been a significant challenge in the development of my formulas. You've been a tremendous help to that too, btw. Honestly, Your links to the wwf, and also your conversation about consumerism and things like processed foods and fast fashion being the bigger evils, as big business will consume palm at a mightier rate than any of us small batch soap makers... As long as we do our part in not buying heavily packaged, overly processed foods and don't buy new tee shirts every 3 months, I think our choices and impacts might be greater than avoiding the bucket of palm.... especially if its a credible RSPO source. I know some articles state that RSPO is a hack, and plantations only behave when the inspection takes place... but I don't know how much of that is propaganda. Honestly you've allowed me a new perspective to consider in buying my ingredients. Thanks for making this video. I know this was a bit of a risk, because I know how hot this conversation can be sometime among soapers.
Oh thank you, I really appreciate your comment and I think you've summarised my thoughts about it all perfectly. One of the reasons it's so hard to look closely at our choices around the use of palm is that it brings up other issues in our consumption behaviour - most people really don't want to take an honest look at that. I'm far from perfect myself, and I know I've got some problematic blind spots, but I'm trying to be honest and do the right thing. I think that's an example worth sharing in itself. Thanks again, really loved your comment :)
Awareness and education are all we can do to try and better our personal footprints. Our trends will continue to slowly evoke change in consumerism. I'm so star struck you replied to my comment! You're like, the first person I reference when I need to learn a new trick or troubleshoot my formulas... your channel and blog are so insanely informative and helpful! Thank you for posting videos when you can, they're a treat to watch and super informative. ❤
Oh wow Elly, that was an excellent, excellent video and you are spot on with saying that if we ban/don’t use palm oil, another crop will fill the demand for vegetable oil and that crop could be many times worse than palm oil, such a good point. You also made a huge point with living thoughtfully in your own home, between composting my “wet” items, and re using the unavoidable zip lock bags some products come in……I think I only put my garbage bag out once every 6 months because very little goes in it 😂. I really had to laugh when you talked about your clothes, I am still wearing some from nearly 20 years ago when we moved up from Tasmania ( left the cold clothes behind). I have a front loading wash machine, which is so gentle on clothes, use my own home made powder ( your recipe) and my clothes are still in great condition ! I also find many good quality clothes in op shops rather than retail shops, so yeah…..I really enjoyed this video and glad you mentioned tallow too , especially if your local butcher will give you some cheap. Looking forward to part 2. 😊💜
Hi Elly! I just discovered your channel and I am so looking forward to watch all your other videos. I wanted to ask you aside this video on palm oil do you have a video about the use of essential oils in soaps? As it seems that there is a controversy.
Hi, thank you! I do have this one that covers EO blending and amount guidelines that I use. I love EO's in my soap! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JkcjC3wV0ZA.html
Great video Elly! I would love to see a more in depth look at the production of Palm Oil that is sustainably sourced. This could help show people what efforts go in to producing the product and what companies are doing so properly. Perhaps a future collaboration with you and Ann Reardon from How to Cook That ;)
Thanks Heather. Sounds like a great idea, but time is limited and I do what I can. Probably a bit beyond me at this stage. Just wanted to share this though, and hope people do more of their own research/learning.
Am through 25 secs in the video and am writing this , had been waiting for the longest time for this video,and yippe finally its here. Will give other comments later😅😊
There are so many amazing reasons to use palm oil. it can not be GMO'd. it needs no processing. the palm kernel can be used for bubbles and the fruit used for creamyness and nice bubbles. it's truly amazing, more fruit can be grown on one tree than most other trees. actually using less square acreage than coconut and others. In my humble opinion ommiting palm oil has people using avocado and almond oils that are devestating entire countries, ex mexico...... palm oil literally brought millions of people out of poverty and starvation. 80% of the palm oil is used in third world countries. I'm so amazed by your beautiful mind. you are absolutely amazing and i am so so grateful that you made a true video about palm oil
Fantastic presentation. There are also many small independent palm plantations, 2-3 hectares, started by small communities/families attempting to raise their standards of life. These independent plantation now provide children's education that was not available before, local food and clothing shops and most importantly a living wage (in terms of the plantations geographic location). These families are now able to read and write and feed themselves, buy not supporting RSPO you could be cancelling this self sustaining community of the basics we all take for granted and I just don't want to be responsible for depriving small communities of these basics. In my own opinion soap without palm oil is never as good as soap that does, palm oil in soap has to many qualities that make a noticeable difference that can not be replicated.
What a load of rubbish, you can make fantastic Palm Free soap, you have convinced yourself it's an essential ingredient when it's not, if you know how to make soap properly, you can easily formulate it to give the properties you want.
@EllysEverydaySoapMaking I really appreciate knowing there are good people out there who are like minded and good people. Sometimes it's taxing feeling like I'm stuck in the Twilight Zone where people but hearing you was very refreshing.
Hi Elly. Very good information. When making the 2nd part of the video if you could address the “ no stir” version of palm oil please. I buy that for convenience and always wonder what has been done to it to make it no stir. Thanks!
I've used New Directions for a bundle of pump bottles, can't say the experience was great. My order eventually arrived and their email response team service was bad enough to never order from them again. I'm glad I did a bulk order so as to not need to order again!
Huey Bluey I will never purchase anything from them again either, it's a shame they treat their paying customers so poorly. It seems not much has improved between your experience and mine!
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@@HelensStudio54 Hi Huey, we can only apologise for your poor experience you had back then. We're happy to hear what happened though as it's never too late to hear feedback. Our product range has certainly evolved and grown over the 2 decades since you've last worked with us as well and we've had lots of positive responses to our diverse and growing range over the years. We would invite you to still reach out, as we're only to happy to hear you out and learn from what happened so we can avoid repeating our mistakes as our customers, their experience with us and our products is extremely important to all of us here: whether it happened 20 years ago, or yesterday. If you're willing to give us another go, let us know and we'll work with you to ensure we meet the high standards we set for ourselves.
Please excuse my ignorance, but I thought I was going to learn about benefits and disadvantages of palm oil in regard to soap making. If you can please make a video to teach us about the pros and cons of palm oil in the soaps we make would be greatly appreciated.
There are no disadvantages to it, other than what I covered. As a soap making ingredient it is fantastic in every way. The problems with it are environmental, economical, social and ethical.
Wonderful matter-of-fact video without environmental hysteria. Sometimes people forget that third world people starving in the middle of land that can yield an income if handled reasonably is pretty arrogant. Buying a useful product at fair prices is better than charity through international organization paying high salaries…. Thank you!
Hi Elly. A couple of years ago we wanted to get into soap making and bought some things we thought we might need ahead of time. One item is a 3L bottle of veg glycerin. We do not know how to use it and receipts with few ingredients are hard to find. We did not realize that glycern soap is made with alcohol. Im in Canada and ingredients are expensive. Can we use veg glycerine in large amt to try to make soap? We have 3 L . Can you make a video on this ingredient? We havent made any soap yet but we are ready now.
Hi, great question! These liquid soap recipes are a great way to use glycerin in soap making. They are the only times I have used it. Liquid Castile Soap Making - 100% olive oil liquid soap recipe ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Q-Ul8NNQZqg.html Easy Liquid Soap Recipe using Rice Bran Oil ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-0Kv-ObTjLHw.html
Hi Elly, thank you for your video 💕 I was thinking about this issue recently, especially using palm oil in toothpaste. What I'm thinking is - how desperate are we to use palm oil? Is it really so vital for our survival? Do we need all those products or can we actually live without it comfortably? What do you think?
I like your thinking Katerina. I think we can definitely live quite comfortably without it! But the reality is our food systems are very reliante on it, so it's not going away anytime soon. Even if we choose not to use it, we still need to support everyone else who does consume it to be aware of the issues and consume in a responsible way.
@@EllysEverydaySoapMakingFood industry is money-making business, sometimes I think trying to make people ill by adding all sorts of things into products, including sugar. I think the aim is to spread knowledge among people, read labels and make a better choice (choose what does not contain palm oil/sugar... because it doesn't need to be added). After all it is our responsibility to save the planet. I will start reading labels more now to transition to palm oil-free soaps, shampoo and toothpaste, at least as much as I can. In that way a change can happen on a larger scale if everyone changes what they consume.
Having seen the destruction of native forests purely for plantations for palm oil what happened and continues to happen in parts of Asia, when we visited in the hills it was utter destruction with the impact being rather the same as in the comment from South America, i could never bring myself to use it knowingly. But it is a decision each person makes for themself.
It's very sad indeed, and pains me too. Thankfully there is growing awareness about it and more pressure to grow it sustainably. This is a problem in lots of regions with various agricultural activities.
In my opinion the best oils or fats we can use is animal fats in the way to honor all the animals parts. And other vegetables oils that have not a big impact in the soil, and habitat.
Hey, I just want to ask you (specially the 'Rich' country). How many acre of Forrest in your country ? (Specially in percentage) Just try to see from other side
Ok. Sure, but I usually use my own glasses when I googling, because I already little trauma when I Use Google (map), I was send to nowhere when I used it 😂
For me, Google is a kind of weapon (like BBC) Back to Palm oil, something that I know, Palm oil is the hardest competitor for others oil, and few hands try to push they competitor with 'that' issues. Is that's palm trees do not produce oxygen ? But, what ever, we use different glasses. ☺️☺️☺️
Thanks for sharing that. We just have to make sure that we are not buying the cheapest of everything at a greater cost to others or the environment. It's a tricky balance!
I like using tallow. I get free grass fed the beef fat from Whole Foods that would otherwise be thrown out in the trash and render it. It's a process, but it is free and it's not going into the landfill.
Oops, so sorry, with your name sitting right in front of me, I STILL spelled it with an "ie", instead of a "y"! SMH! Correction made... mea culpa, Elly! [7.9.2024]
DW do a excellent investigation on palm oil the video can be found here in RU-vid. Unfortunately all the RSPO palm oil and no RSPO palm oil ended in the same bucket when is sold international. Probably the only way to find RSPO palm oil is from buy it directly from the farmers that follows the guidelines and have the RSPO certification. Unfortunately I don't support the use of palm oil and soy because the big deforestation in South America for what it happening on Amazonia Forest and others forest in South America and Central America.
It’s a very cheap oil to produce since the palms can live 20 years! Palm oil is also questionable because of how it’s processed. The oil is refined, bleached and deodorized (RBDPO)using substances that would hide if rancid and wont provide health benefits. I don’t use it for cooking but for soap making. This oil produces empty calories when consumed. If you give margarine to ants, they won’t eat it; however, they would eat butter or other fats. I would not advise anyone to eat it… it’s not healthy…. Our body isn’t design to consume these type of processed “food”
