Borg Cube vs The Death Star | Star Trek vs Star Wars: Who Would Win 

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the moment borg assimilates storm-troopers they are Doomed! now every drone in universe will never ever hit a target!

Depends on if the Borg are able to send boarders. The cube is doomed, but if they get the chance you are likely to see an assimilated death star.

Such fun. This basically comes down to timing: can the Death Star overwhelm the cube quickly enough to prevent assimilation? If it’s just down to fire power, then yes, it probably could. But would the crew of the Death Star REACT quickly enough? Based on the rules set out for this engagement the Empire just see an unfamiliar space vessel approach their huge space station that they consider to be invincible. They DO NOT see a threat. They do not engage the main weapon, or launch fighters or raise shields. They might try to use their tractor beam to hold the cube for further inspection / interrogation. The Borg on the other hand have a singular purpose and make no assumptions. They see the Death Star, scan it immediately and then send a drone to interface with its systems to find out if it is worth assimilating. That is that start and end of this battle. If the Borg are allowed to complete their assessment of the DS, then they will have all the information they need to overcome it. If the Imperial crew of the DS can somehow react quickly enough to prevent it then they may be able to win. It’s not a battle decided by the ships, but by tactics and attitude.

The main strength of the Borg is assimilation, they don't destroy they strive for perfection for the Collective. With a complement of approximately 130,000 drones, if the battle was going against them they could beam half of them to the Death Star and begin the assimilation of personnel and technology, losing only a handful of drones before their personal shields adapt to Imperial sidearms and rifles and with no Sith onboard there would be no weapons that would pose a threat to them. The Borg may lose the Cube but the battle would be theirs as, once on the Death Star, the Imperials wouldn't stand a chance and the battle station would soon service the Collective.

The Death Star's main weapon is located at a very specific point in its configuration, probably covering about 0.75-1.5/360 degrees, when the focused beam width is compared against the coverage of the full sphere. It can't fire through itself, obviously. Therefore, the maneuverability of the sphere is very important, especially its ability to turn around the central axis. This is something we have no idea of, whereas we know about the comparable size (and somewhat predictable maneuvering capabilities) of the Borg cube. In this case, the Death Star is a bazooka and the Borg cube is a wasp, that is going to give you a pretty fatal allergic reaction, unless your aim is dead on.

the borg cube vs the stargate replicators is what i want to see compared :)

Way late to the party but a Borg cube was 'only' 3 km tall/wide not 3000 km (I had to look it up).

You goofed. You said the borg cube was 3000km × 3000km x 3000km. Its actually meters, not kilometers.

4:52 Just a fun fact, No borg cube would need any crew to repair themselves, all borg technology is based on nanotechnology and the smallest piece of a ship can potentially repair itself into a full cube, and can also assimilate an entire world.

There is one thing that you missed. And that is that the reason Starfleet won the engagement at sector 001 is that being used to Borg combat strategies at that point they knew to rotate modulations of shields and weapons. So it was a matter of tactics not the size of the fleet. On the other hand there is no canon example of blaster/turbo laser tech having different weapon frequencies. Just different orders of magnitude. The proding of the imperial commanders (via TIE fighters) could render the Superlaser moot if it's modulation is the same as the TIEs. No assimilation would be needed, just their ability to adapt

The borg cube isn't fast? That thing is transwarp-capable!

The Death Stars primary weapon is meant for destroying large objects like planets but not so much for targeting fast moving ships. Even a Borg Cube is highly maneuverable and would simply stay out of the super lasers way. The Death star is too clumsy to match the Borg Cube movement. Borg are essentially a fast adapting 'species' (although they are technically half machine/half humanoid). After a few hits from those turbo lasers they would have adapted to those weapons rendering all those turbo lasers ineffective. The 10,000 tie fighters would meet the same faith. Yes, they can shoot at the cube, but probably with the same kind of weapons, to which the Borg easily can adapt. Now remember when the Borg first came into contact with the Enterprise D, they easily managed to beam one drone through the Enterprise shields. Since the Death Star has barely any shields it would be easy for the cube to beam over a few hundred drones which then will assimilate the entire Death Star crew. End result : The Borg wins.

If the Deathstar got a shot on the Borg cube with the super laser it would be a short fight but the Borg would drop out of warp within beaming range and beam a massive boarding party before it fired a shot. The Borg would then be able to assimilate the entire deathstar crew within two days and would assilate the deathstar itself into their collective technology.

The impulse-drive of the borg cube is surprisingly strong. I think the cube could easily avoid the deathstar's superlaser. And: after the drones had adapted to the imperial weapons, they could easily assimilate the whole deathstar-crew.

Once Borg Drones beam onto the Death Star the battle is over.

I think the Death Star definitely wins against a Borg Cube, at least the first time. However, unless the Superlaser was already charged I doubt it wins before the borg get at least some drones on board and begin the assimilation. The real question to me, is if after the battle the Empire is able to remove the infestation before the Death Star becomes the Borg Death Star.

I agree with your prediction that the Death Star would defeat the Borg cube. BUT, I believe the Borg would win in the end! How? Before their cube is destroyed I'm sure that the Borg would have transported some of their crew on board the Death Star. Once on board, it would take the Imperial crew some time to realise what has happened (evidence - see Star Trek: First Contact). By the time the Imperial crew would realise that the Borg had boarded, it would be too late. The Death Star would be assimilated and the Borg would win, be it at the cost of their cube.

Show of hands, how many people pissed themselves a little at the thought of an assimilated Death Star?

alas, we are overlooking the huge advantage the borg have. a transporter. borg sends over thousands of drones to fck up the death star and it's over. blasters won't stop them and they take control of the death star. let's do this matchup again.

The Borg: “There are no Sith lords on the Death Star, they’re only led by some blue skinned admiral, this battle is ours!”

WINNER: The Borg! ... ... But NOT the Cube! ... ... There is no doubt the Death Star would blow up a single Borg Cube in one shot, because the Borg would not be able to adapt. However, the Borg would definitely win. The Borg would Transport their Drones aboard the Death Star. A small number of Drones would die when hit with the lasers from the Imperial Troopers. However, after the Drones aboard the Death Star adapt, the Borg would then star assimilating the Troopers. The Cube would be destroyed, but the Borg would easily win from the inside and the Death Star would be successfully assimilated. The loss of a Cube for a gain of Death Star is something the Borg will do every time.

Which one has the high ground

I feel like the Borg have a distinct disadvantage because they're from a franchise that is primarily specializes in weekly TV series. Quite frankly they have a lot more opportunities to be portrayed incorrectly, and a lot more opportunities to encounter outliers that make them seem much weaker than they are.

Borg Drones are not "mindless" drones. They're the Collective Mind of the Borg, organized into subroutines that operate the ship & orchestrate assimilation. The whole time the ships are fighting, thousands of Borg are beaming onboard & assimilating crew & Death Star systems. The Death Star flies off "triumphant", but is oddly silent when it reaches its destination. As the Imperials attempt to make contact, they're greeted with: "We are the Borg. Resistance is futile." Full assault by amped up energy weapons no Imperial ship has; & mass assault by weirdly-modified TIE fighters that simply ignore weapons hits after the first few kills...

The Borg Cube is WAYYYY to agile for the Death Stars Super Laser to even hit!

The scenario I see, is the Death Star rapidly dispatching the Borg cube, then they celebrate, maybe pour through the wreckage to see what they were up against. Then Stormtroopers start going missing. By the time the Imperials realize that there is a Borg nest around their reactor, it may be too late. Thousands of stormtroopers and crew might have been assimilated, before they realize what's happening. Star wars blasters are likely not as powerful as Star Trek phasers. The only weapon of comparable power would be that disintegration rifle used by some bounty hunters like Boba Fett (referenced but not shown) and the Mandalorian. The Borg would likely adapt easily to Imperial blasters, I don't think the Imperials would have the mindset to figure out what's happening, and to adjust the the modulations of their weapons, for a while. This means many more Stormtroopers would get assimilated, before the Imperials wise up. If they can't get a Sith Lord to the Death Star, very fast, The Death Star would likely be completely assimilated, unless the crew order it's self destruction. For the Empire and the Galaxy as a whole, a whole new bucket of bad. How bad may be determined by whether Borgified force users can still use the force, provide force use to the entire collective, or if not, whether that can be imparted to the Borg queen, or higher ranking Borg. Even if Borg can't use the force, the ex Death Star, now turned to a giant Borg sphere would be extremely dangerous and would be a huge threat, not only the Empire, but the Rebel Alliance, and everyone else in the galaxy. And of course, if they relay the information back to the Borg in Star Trek's galaxy, things get even worse, here.

The Borg would beam over and begin assimilation immediately.

*Posted before watching* Personal opinion: The death star blows up the cube... and gets assimilated as the scout drones the cube beamed over start slowly taking over the ship, First Contact style.

You forgot to account for transporters. If even one Borg drone transported inside the Death Star, the whole station could be assimilated. When the Borg are outgunned, that's how they fight. Transporter technology doesn't exist in the Star Wars universe. The Death Star would have no defense against it.

The Death Star's main laser is only on one side. All the Cube has to do: attack on the opposite side.

Worf: "Ramming speed!" Death Star Commander: Ramming speed

Were you comparing the standard Borg cube to the Death Star? The Borg have a Tactical Cube which is more heavily armored and has more powerful weapons than the standard cube. I'd love to see how a tactical cube stands up against the death Star.

At 2:48 You say the borg cube was 3000 km wide. Which version are you referring too? most Borg cubes were just 3 Kilometers wide high and long according to most sources I have seen.

The cube gets within transporter range. At least a few drones beam over. The cube is destroyed. The Borg still win.

This is no contest, Borg cube wins. "Lasers" end of story.

Borg cube is 3km by 3km by 3km. You said it was 3,000km

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I agree that the Death star wins most of the time due to the superlaser, but if it misses or isn't charged and the borg manage to board with more than a couple drones the Borg will win. NOT by destroying the death star, but assimilating it.

Death Star wins, Empire loses. While the laser is charging to destroy the cube in a single shot while delivering their standard ultimatum, one drone beams aboard, and starts assimilating the space station.

Borg beam over to Death Star. Death Star assimilated. Oh boy....

You neglected one major factor that works in the Borg's favor. The Borg can teleport their drones on board instantly and miles away. This is a technology that doesn't even exist in Star Wars, meaning they likely would have no defense to it. I agree the Borg Cube as far as the ship goes would likely be destroyed by the station's defense before they could overcome them, but without a Sith presence to counter the Borg boarding parties, I think they would eventually assimilate the entire station. And THAT is a terrifying thought indeed. O.o Because then resistance will truly be futile. One other scenario that occurs to me. You are right about all those turbo lasers the Death Star has but everybody seems to forget those are spread across the entire surface!! It's a huge station, not all of it's defense systems can fire on the same target at the same time, and the closer you get to it the less lasers can target you. If the Cube could get close enough it could theoretically destroy the turbo lasers on that section of the Station's surface and keep their orbit synchronized to the turning of the station, keeping the Cube over that cleared section. Then all it has to worry about are the Tie-Fighters which would do some initial damage, certainly, but they would adapt. That leaves the question, could a thousand Tie-Fighters chop through a Borg Cube before the drones assimilated the entire station? And if a Borg assimilates a Stormtrooper, do they all take a hit to their accuracy? Food for thought.

You just need to beam one borg down to the cube to assimilate everyone. Star Wars won't do well with beaming tech. Or just beam a bomb to the reactor core.

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borg: "Hmm.. We haven't encountered these guys before, but let's assume that huge weapon-looking thing on the death star is bad, and let's not fly in front of it."

Have we forgotten one technological aspect of ship on ship combat here? Boarding via teleporter. This is a legitimate form of naval combat and wasn't listed. It only takes one drone, ONE, to transport over and then its game over.

I am curious what happens when Borg drones start transporting onto the Death Star. I can see your average storm trooper being much of a match for Borg drones.

Borg cube has warp capability. It could warp in @ close range, and collide with the death star at a manageable speed embedding itself into the Death star. The drones would quickly assimilate the death star. Maybe not upon first encounter, but definitely after.

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By the time the Death Star aims a weapon , borg will have transported borg onto their station. Borg will at that point win as they take over the entire crew

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I would have to disagree with your conclusion. First, the Death Star is hardly maneuverable at all. The entire final act of New Hope took place while it was getting into position to fire on the rebel base. It had to gradually settle into a planetary orbit and wait for gravity to do its thing. This tells me that it barely has any power to move at sub-light speeds. A Cube, on the other hand, has shown an ability to enter and exit warp speed (a tech not available to the Empire) with ease and to quickly maneuver at sub-light speeds. Second, the Borg engage to assimilate, not destroy. They don't simply cruise up to a space station and open fire. (Yes, they fired on Federation outpost in Best of Both Worlds, but that was to lure Picard out for capture.) The Empire doesn't either (they captured the Falcon...) So, there would be a standoff. The Empire would either tractor the ship in (if it had a port big enough) or send ships to investigate. Either way, the Borg would immediately be assimilating every Imperial person they came in contact with. The knowledge of those assimilated personnel would immediately become available to the Borg. The layout of the Death Star, its capabilities, everything would become part of the Borg's collective knowledge within a few hours of their first encounter. Third, the Death Star has no shields. Without shields, the Borg could transport onto the Death Star with ease. One Cube contains anywhere from 69,000 to 129,000 drones. Transporting 30,000 drones aboard in strategic locations would immediately overwhelm any Imperial response. And, within a few hours, every person on the Death Star would be Borg. Yep, even Darth Vader would be a Borg since the Borg would have the tactical expertise to know to fire simultaneous at every point of his body so he couldn't swipe away all of the blasts. So, now the Borg have the Force. Finally, now that the Borg have the most powerful weapon in the Galaxy, all the knowledge of the Empire's greatest engineers, technicians, and fighters, and the power of the Dark Side, they would quickly assimilate the remainder of the Galaxy. In short, the Empire is not equipped to deal with the Borg.

I personally would like to add my two cents to the fight and a couple of details you overlooked. One the Torpedoes that were used to destroy the borg cubes during the the final Voyager episode came from the future from a far more advanced Federation. 2nd it's true that the fleet at sector 0 0 1 completely demolished that borg Cube however you have to remember Picard had a strong link to the collective still. and was able to pinpoint the cube's weakness and destroy it within a matter of seconds. Had nothing to do with their sheer firepower. Now when it comes to fire superiority yes the Death Star could destroy the borg Cube in one-hit assuming of course it can catch it. I don't believe the death-stars tractor beams would be much effective against a borg cube maybe for a couple minutes but not long enough for the Death Star too faced the cube directly. Eventually their Shields would modulate to escape the tractor beam. even if the Death Star did have enough time to destroy the ship I think it's important to note that they would likely transport all of their drums on the Death Star. Generally the borg have between 60,000 to 120,000 drones. and the Death Star only has a personnel around 600,000 and 100000 of them are stormtroopers. Personally I don't believe the firepower of the Tie fighters nor the turrets on the Death Star surface would do any damage to the cube. I know you said you don't want to get into fire power when it comes to different franchises but in reality the firepower and shielding's in Star Trek are far more Superior. Even if they were effective I don't believe it would last very long. And we also have to keep in mind that the Borg Cube are very maneuverable in combat, they're really not as slow as you claim they are and they have deadly weapons, specially for tactical cubes. They also have transport capabilities. And scanning capabilities. Eventually the death star's weakness would be discovered real fast. In truth the real Victor of this battle is the Borg. Lastly it's true each of the individual drones do not have any sense of independency however the say that they're mindless is kind of a false statement. because they are a collective consciousness of many individuals and they can coordinate and they are very smart. I wouldn't lowball them like that

The borg would beam aboard and completely incapacitate the death star's crew.

I know this is an old video, but the point I would like to make is, after the Borg have made their initial scan of the Death Star, all they have to do is use the destruction of the cube as a destraction while they beam themselves on board and then it will be over. Even if it was possible, the Death Star would be too much of a prize for the Borg to want to destroy.

For as detailed as this video was, I'm shocked you didn't even mention transporters. Warp in, beam a few hundred quantum torpedoes into the Death Star, warp out. It would only take a few seconds. Or better yet, beam in drones instead of weapons. Come back in a few days and enjoy their brand new Borg Death Star.

A few points: The borg had trouble adapting to species 8472 because they were unable to assimilate them due to their biology. With borg, once they assimilate you, you are screwed. A cube would be much smaller than the Death Star, so would it be able to aim it's laser quicker than the Cube could manoeuvre? I really can't see anyone in the Star Wars universe saying: "Admiral, they have adapted to our weapons. Shall we rotate weapon modulation?" Incidentally, this is how the Feds do so much damage to the Cube in the battle of Sector 001, not due to being overwhelmed. This was because Star Fleet's only weapon against the borg was guile and more importantly, the ability to change the frequency of their energy weapons. In the battle of Wolf 359, a Borg cube effortlessly destroyed 38(?) Federation STAR SHIPS (not little fighters) without being overwhelmed. I just don't think that the Tie fighters would have enough power to keep the pressure on the Borg. As for the turbo lasers on the DS, seems like they are point blank range. Kind of pointless actually. I don't know, not well illustrated in the movie. The borg wouldn't be able to do direct damage, though. I think when it comes down to it, IF the DS is able to hit with it's planet killer, the Empire would win. If the borg are able to assimilate anything or better, get drones on-board the DS, they would win. After all, in the unlikely event that any storm troopers were able to hit any drones, after a few shots the Borg would adapt and that would be that. If you had a sith lord on the DS, it might be a different story though, as Borg are useless against melee and of course against the force.

The borg: finds and assimilates thrawn. Lil palpabean: well shit.

I would imagine that if a Borg cube was able to dodge the first shot by the super laser, they would then obviously know just how dangerous the Death Star was. I don't believe for a second that ANY amount of defensive adaptions by the Borg cube would allow it to survive a direct hit from the Death Star; even at a lower power setting, there's simply too much energy being pumped out for any shielding to be able to withstand. That said, I think it would be fairly easy for the Borg to shoot a hole or two into the Death Star's shielding long enough to beam in some drones, at which point things could get very interesting. I'd imagine the drones would very quickly be able to infiltrate, scan, and transmit back a lot of information about the Death Star as well as beginning an assimilation campaign that could mean that even if the cube was destroyed, there would still be the potential for the Death Star to be assimilated.

If you're going with the assumption that neither side has encountered the other before, the Empire isn't going to simply open up with its superlaser at full planet-killer intensity - they won't see the need. Most likely they'll view the Borg cube as a prize, and start bombarding it with turbolaser fire to disable its defenses, before sending boarding parties to conquer its presumed crew. By that time, the Borg will have finished their initial scouting-drone exploration of the Death Star and fully examined its capabilities. They're now aware of the superlaser, and will move to avoid it. Even if the Empire see the cube as an immediate threat and use the superlaser, they'll likely elect to fire a single-reactor-only blast, which will blow apart the cube but not vaporise it. That will give the Borg the leeway to launch their sphere ship, or transport directly to the Death Star, and once they form a collective on board, the eventual full assimilation of the Death Star is inevitable.

Borg Cube gets destroyed, but a group of drones manages to transport onto the Death Star first. The drones adapt to Imperial weapons. They assimilate the crew and ship over the course of a few weeks. The Death Star becomes part of the collective. Resistance is futile.

Best way to win as the cube: get lucky enough to appear somewhere other than within the death star's firing arc. Then approach with full speed and defense up, and adapt to the turbolasers so that it can last long enough to ram the death star and board it. Or, if Star Wars shields don't block teleport, then just send everyone aboard (including any non-drones they may or may not have, though I don't seem to recall borg using small vehicles much) as soon as you get a transport lock and let the borg cube's control AI just fuddle around being a nuisance for as long as it can while the drones and whatever else gets teleported aboard generally just becomes a nightmare for everyone aboard the soon to be Borg Death Sphere. Though it honestly would not surprise me if they didn't just outright dismantle the superlaser and use its components (namely, the rare parts like those khyber crystals) to make a bunch of smaller, weaker superlasers that they have pointing all over the place so that it can shoot capital ship one-shotting beams in ALL directions. Destroying planets is stupid after all. Can't assimilate what we blow up. Better to just be able to shoot everywhere, and to be able to do so at variable power levels so we can figure out just what % of the total weapon's power we need to just blow up enough of a ship to capture and examine the rest. Also, who left this stupid straight reactor exhaust port leading all the way to the surface all nice and exposed at the end of a trench?! Or was that their failsafe in case someone ever captured their shiny sphere and they needed to destroy it? Well tough beans. We fixed it.

I think the deathstar would destroy the cube, but the borg would beam done drones on board assimilatting the crew of the deathstar.

You vastly underestimated the cube's maneuverability compared to the death star. As long as it stayed out of its small firing ranger it could take it over through other means.

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For the most part I agree with you. The most effective, and likely Borg strategy, based on previous observation is that the Borg would scan the Death Star on approach and analyze the Death Star's technology. They would also transport drones on to the Death Star to interface with selected systems directly. Since the Empire has no transporter technology this would catch them by surprise and give the Borg an initial advantage. If the commander of the Death Star powers up the super laser at the first sighting of the Borg Cube and fires they win. But as you pointed out the Death Star's super laser requires time to power up. If the Borg starts shooting first the Borg may have time to transport drones on board and begin assimilating storm troopers and technical personnel. The Borg would not destroy the Death Star, but instead take it over, adding it's technological distinction to their own. Picture a Borg Death Star showing up at Wolf 359 commanded by Locutus. LOL

The Borg always scan to find out what they are up against, the first thing they do is take out the main weapon with fire power or beaming over to destroy the control centre so the weapon cannot be fired. The other deathstar weapons won't do enough damage faster than the cube can repair itself. The Borg cube would adapt their shielding to the other deathstar weapons very quickly and then it is a straight fight. Once the Borg get on board the drones will adapt shielding and the stormtrooper weapons will be useless. Why destroy when you can a simulate the deathstar.

Assimilated Death Star (Borg Unimatrix Sphere), that would be cool.

All it would take would be a few drones getting beamed on-board the Death Star, and the whole thing would be assimilated within a matter of hours... Sure, the Death Star wins the battle, but looses the war ;-).

I remember seeing once, that the Death Star was designed as a mining machine. And was easily adapted as a war machine. The main laser was to reduce a planet to manageable size pieces for refining for valuable materials.

The forces a person would feel near the exterior of the sphere if it turned quick are mind boggling. Imagine if our moon did 1 rotation around its axis in a minute....

You got this completely wrong! Borg will never need to assimilate the Death Star. It has simply an over sized laser. Lasers and Plasma weapons are outdated even by standards of mid 22 century of Star Trek. Let alone 24 century. An over sized laser wont be a surprise weapon. 9/10 to Borg Cube. In Star Trek universe they don't need a Death Star because most ships are capable of Apocalyptic bombardment.

I think the borg would just scan the death star and torp the vent. KABOOM!

From range, the death star would probably win every time. Best way for the Borg to win would be to warp in extremely close, so that the death star couldn't target it with the superlaser, and couldn't bring more than a handful of turbolasers to bear against the cube. From there, the cube only has to weaken the death stars shields enough to transport the drones onboard. The Stormtroopers onboard wouldn't only get a few shots before the drones adapted. The only chance the Garrison would have of repelling the drones would be if Vader or Sidious were present. While the drones could possibly adapt to lightsaber strikes, they'd have no chance against force abilities Bay the way, one thing you forgot to mention is that the Borg Cube's weapons are also adaptable, being able to bypass most defensive systems. Also, at sector 001, the Federation was employing Akira, Defiant, Saber, Steamrunner, and Sovereign class's vessels, which were specifically designed to combat the Borg. That's why the cube wasn't nearly as effective as it was at Wolf 359

I know this video is old, but I'm bored so I'm going to comment anyways. I personally think the Borg would win. I think the biggest error made in your assessment was to compare the movement and rotational speed of something the size of a Borg cube to something the size of a small moon. Since the Death Star as a fixed point with which to fire it's laser it makes it very unlikely that the Death Star could touch the Borg cube with it's Super Laser. That weapon is practically a non-issue. As far as overwhelming the Borg cube with sheer firepower...that's really iffy. The clip you showed is of federation starships blasting the Borg cube and actually doing damage. Well Federation Starships know to change the frequency of their phasers to penetrate Borg shielding for a time. You get a lot of Starships doing that at the same time and the Borg shielding likely cannot compensate because it would have to rotate it's frequency too quickly. So it's likely not raw damage that is getting through the Borg shielding as much as it is the shots it cannot rotate fast enough to negate. As far as offensive capabilities are concerned...you're right about the Borg cube not being able to destroy a Death Star in any kind of timely manner. It would instead lock on it's tractor beam, activate it's cutting laser. Once it synced up to the Death Star's shield frequency, it would start teleporting their drones onto the Death Star and without any real reinforcements, that would be it. Storm Troopers would be no match for Borg Drones after the first few shots. So the Borg Drones would just walk over the Storm Troopers, take the ship and that would be the end of it. It would take weeks if not months to assimilate the whole thing, but that would be the only issue. The comparatively laughable firepower and impact of ti fighters would have very little impact on the battle.

Not saying your wrong here but I think you are forgetting a few advantages the borg would have over the Death Star 1) The Borg's hive mind or possible Queen's leadership. 2) The cubes high powered and long range sensors giving (at least a small chance) the Borg the ability to find the flaws in the Death Star before engaging and making them fully aware of the Death Star's primary weapon's possible capabilities . 3) and possibly the most powerful advantage of the Borg have over the Death Star. The Borg have long range transporter technology. With such a large target and long range, it would not be that hard to transport scouts (as in Q who) only in several locations on the surface from long distance (not needing to breath) or inside the Death Star in a strafing run. Worse comes to worse, they pull a 'First Contact' and transport, assimilate, sabotage, and destroy from with in before the engagement truly begins. Just a thought.

One aspect of the argument which I don't think you've considered: when Starfleet overwhelmed the Borg Cube with numbers, they added variableness to their attack and defences: random frequencies of energy blasts, and same with shields. The Empire would be unaware of this strategy, and after being hit by numerous fighters, bombers, and being held in place by the Death Stars tractor beam for some time, the Borg would have adapted. After adapting, the Borg would send a scout team aboard the Death Star to begin assimilating crew. Again, a number of drones would likely be taken out by handheld blasters, but they would assimilate to that, and blasters would no longer be effective. The Death Star command staff hears reports about the fight suddenly being ineffective, and that there is an invasion force aboard. He orders to fire the main weapon on the alien craft and calls back their TIE forces, while sending more numbers to fend off the invaders. The Borg detect that the TIEs retreat while drones aboard the Death Star encounter greater resistance. Then they detect the Death Star changing course to aim its large dish at the Cube, and detect energy aboard the Death Star building up in that area. Not having encountered this particular weapon before, but knowing basic military strategy, logic, and weaponry, they quickly figure out that something big and nasty would happen if that weapon should fire. They beam drones aboard the Death Star in those areas to investigate. These drones quickly overwhelm the firing crews and begin to interface with the consoles, shutting down the firing mechanisms.

Found your channel recently and I really like your content! I agree with much of what you've said here but I think there's one major point I disagree with. I don't think the Death Star could ever hit the Borg cube with its main planet-buster weapon, unless the cube was first disabled. Yes the Borg are not particularly maneuverable against Starfleet ships, but that's because its bigger than them. In this case, the tables are turned and to a much larger degree. The Death Star would never be able to rotate quick enough to lock onto the Cube unless it was dead in space because it's...well, the size of a moon. :) I totally agree at full power, with the cube dead in space, it would obliterate it. That said, I think that's a big game changer. Unless the Death Star can do enough damage to disable the cube quick enough, the borg start to gain a huge advantage because the longer the battle goes on, the more time they have to assimilate to their tech. Not sure a single cube could ever destroy it, but perhaps they could get past their shielding and start putting drones aboard.

One cube can be taken out by the DS1. However, DS1 vs two borg cubes is over powering. Once the Super Laser is used the Borg will adapt to the weapon. Lets not forget that the Enterprise D used the deflector dish as an uber death ray. However, since Picard knew the intricate details of the weapon it was made useless.

The Borg would locate the exhaust port with a handful of scan and then blow it up. Or just beam thousands of drones on board, then the Cube itself doesn't matter. Star Wars hand weapons aren't reconfigurable like Trek phasers. A couple of volleys from Stormtroopers and every drone would be immune to personal weapons fire. That ends poorly for the Empire.

i think you are right about ship vs ship here, but i think its also very likely some borg would transport onto the deathstar and would very quickly assimilate the entire crew. even a single borg would be almost certain victory. the borg wont care that their cube was destroyed, they will eventually possess the deathstar itself.

The borg could simply land on the death star, it doesnt seem to have a full shield preventing this thus enabling the borg to invade through the hull and assimilate the crew, just like they did in "first contact". And even if they get killed, the remaining borg forces (other cubes) would at least get some adaption data so sooner or later the death star would be overwhelmed.

I've always held that if the Death Star hit with their first shot they'd destroy a Borg cube, but if they missed then the Borg would have scanned the superlaser shot and maybe been able to defend against it: Starfleet constantly rotates phaser frequencies when fighting the Borg, I doubt the Empire can do that with the Death Star.

The Borg have assimilated thousands of star systems and species, I highly doubt anything the Empire has is new to them. The cube can have 78% destroyed and keep going, repairing itself on the move.The Borg have been shown easily transporting drones through every kind of shield. They also have long range missiles that where capable of destroying Federation ships with ease when they crossed Mars orbit. The scene you show of the Federation doing heavy damage to a cube happened after many years of specific development and research, even then if it wasn't for Jean Lucs knowledge from when he was assimilated, they never would have won. The Death star has NONE of that going for it. Unless the Borg cube arrives right after the Deathstar has spent hours charging up it's main weapon and by chance happened to be right in the path of the weapon AND if the Borg hadn't already encountered said weapon in one of the thousands of other civilizations it had already kicked ass of and had defences against it, the Deathstar might stand a small chance of winning.

I know just about everyone already thought or posted something to this effect: Upon encountering the Death Star, the Borg would immediately realize the necessity of assimilating its crew, technology and military power. No need to consult the queen to draw that conclusion. Battling the Death Star is irrelevant as well as futile.

Drones get on DS, adapted to blasters, start assimulting the ship... An assimilated death star is a scary thought, that flaw would surely be fixed

My thought would be that it would play out similarly to Star Trek first contact. Death Star destroys the cube, but not before several borg are beamed to Death Star and start assimilating. Death Star wins early, but loses later

If there were multiple Borg Cubes, the Borg would eventually adapt and be able to successfully defend against the Death Star. It was like this with Transphasic Torpedoes, too. The Federation wanted only a small number of ships to carry Transphasic Torpedoes, because they knew the Borg would eventually adapt if exposed to the weapon too much. It's also important to remember the Borg did successfully defeat Species 8472 after the Federation improved the Borg nanotechnology in a way that made it so the Borg nanotechnology could overpower the immune system of Species 8472.

the sexy pick is obviously the death star however the realistic pick is the cube. the assumption made in the video is that the death star is fully charged and somehow the borg cube is facing it rather than on the opposite side of the station in which it's forced to turn around to get a shot off. Using Star Trek episode Best of Both Worlds Part 2, you see the Borg one shotting Federation defense fighters without missing a beat. We can probably assume that most tie fighters would get swatted in no time. In addition, another major point was omitted in the video - the tie fighters would be launched from the station first and engage the borg. Just from that engagement alone, the Borg would have had an opportunity to adapt to the Imperial Weapon Fire and nullify it. You could make the argument that Tie Fighter/ship weaponry would be similar in technology to what the Death Star uses. Another point to consider is that a weapon does not need to be fired on the borg for it to adapt to it - case in point, Best of Both Worlds Part 2 when the Borg ship just brushed off the Enterprise main disruptor beam. Now, if we go exactly what the video is portraying, Borg ship arrives (facing death star), death star launches fighters, powers up, fighters engage, death star fires, blows up main ship, smaller circle borg cube launches and lands on Death Star. Then we have a Borg Death Star. And another thing to consider, how many borg drones would be needed to land on the Death Star before it caused trouble? One? Two? Thousands wouldn't be needed. All it would take is for one drone to adapt and there's nothing the imperial army can do to stop it.

One of my favorite TNG clips is when the Mars Defense Perimeter is destroyed. Its 3 federation ships that fly at the Borg Cube. And they all get one shotted. The Borg cube then flies though the wreckage like its nothing because they where reduced to dust.

theoretically the budong from farscape is capable of biting into the death star like an apple, you should do a video on that. also on a small note: it was mentioned in star trek TNG that a borg cube can have 70% of its hull destroyed and still be able to regenerate, but unfortunately the series doesnt seem to pay attention to that later on.

I think the Borg Cube would get destroyed. But before it would, they would beam over hundreds of drones and the Death Star would end up becoming a huge Borg sphere.

The super laser is a non threat. In star trek detecting weapons lock and power up is simple. The Borg would be already moving well out of the way as soon as they detect the ridiculous amounts of energy involve in the planet buster powering up.

Death Star would win, obviously. If it didn't get it's super laser in range of the cube, then they would scramble out all of their TIE Fighters, and fire their turbo lasers. The Borgs would have been annihilated, there are also at least two Imperial I-Class Star Destroyers escorting the Death Star. The two Destroyers would take out the Borg cube before they could adapt to the turbo laser fire.

You forget 1 thing: the drones. The borg have been seen beaming through shields, so by the time the borg cube would be shot, they would already have drones in there. Other than normal entering troops, those actually damage the ship by assimilating it and its crew, in other words: it would probably end in a draw with the borg cube destroyed but the death star assimilated - which is a win in the collective's book.

You got it completely wrong. The single most devastating weapon on a Borg cube is it's Nantes. By sending drones to the Death Star they can assimilate with near zero effective resistance. They are also far more maneuverable than the Death Star and can just keep the cube on a side with no Death Star planet laser. They don't even need to stay in the same system to still win. The battle would be over with the Death Star assimilated. Time for assimilation is irrelevant. Resistance is futile.

My thoughts: 1. The first Death Star can't aim fast enough to target normal battleships (This is an improvement of the second Death Star). 2. The Borg wouldn't destroy the Death Star, they would just beam some Drones done in an unprotected area and assimilate the whole station with the Nanodrones. The Cube would have serious trubels staying alive, but it shows near Indestructability when fighting against an enemy it has adepted to. 3. Also only a few hundred Turbolasers could attack the cube at a time, simply because there are always some on the other side. I don't think the Turbolasers shown in the Starwars movies are able to deal any serious damage before the cube adepts

Old vid but a fun one. This sounds like the following scenario. You (the DS) are inside a tank. Powerful armored but relatively slow turning speed on the big gun(PLANET KILLER). A sparrow(BORG) is going trying to land on you and when it does infects you with super syphilis(assimilation). If the sparrow does get to contact its game over. It needs to avoid the big gun like going around flying past and turning around etc. The tanks smaller weapons are based on volume but the sparrow learns after the first couple. Can't see how you don't get the pox in this case...

Through transhumanism And Unnatural Sith magic They were just end up teaming up creating the ultimate death star cube.