Orks: 10 Boyz, 10 Gretchin, 5 Tankbustas (need new sculpts and also probably more useful in 10th), 1 Trukk, 1 Weirdboy (needs new sculpt), 1 Warboss. That's about 440 points and would be near the 35% off at $160 that GW seems to target
I swear that Chaos Daemons in 40k are just being used as a front to sell people on AoS. Make the 40k book unfun and make the AoS versions look as attractive as possible. It worked on me at least.
Kinda off topic for this channel, but this Combat Patrol also gives you almost 1000 points of Khorne Daemons for Warhammer: The Old World. Two would not give you a PERFECT 2000 points army (you can and should fill up the remaining points with magic items), but it is not unreasonable either.
It's such a shame boarding patrols are already announced to be temporary considering they're honestly a better price point to get your friends in to the game
Boarding Patrol boxes were explicitly "one and done" releases. So some of the lesser ones are, at the time of writing, still available at or below MSRP, but most of the really good ones are already gone unless you pay eBay prices (which makes no sense, since they're no longer much of a discount if you do).
The sad thing is Imperial Knights had an AMAZING box set at christmas: "Chainbreaker Lance". One Knight Questoris, and two pairs of Armigers A Questoris is usually £100 A pair of armigers is £50 The box set was £130. It's an AMAZING box, cannot recommend enough if it gets redone next christmas
I mean yeah, most of the battleforces were a huge deal if you either wanted to start, or didn’t have the character with it If you could lay a hand on them.
Yeah, the Boarding Patrol sets were nice. Both because they're slightly cheaper - effectively the replacement for Start Collecting - and because they could include alternative sets of units from the same army. (Ex: Drukhari having Kabalites + Incubi in the Combat Patrol, and Wyches in the Boarding Patrol.) It's a crying shame they're limited time buys.
for those wondering the Boarding Patrol boxes ARE limited time. Once they are gone they are gone. Combat Patrol boxes are the ones they say will not be changing in the future and with them basically saying that Boarding Patrol will be supported for a while into 10th edition yeah those boxes aint long for this world.
@@420alphaomega the ghost keel is fine, not the best option but its expected when crisis suits are the cheapest units per point in TAU (80 USD for 3X45 with 0 guns, its usually 240+ for the full unit not including drones). It could have been way worse lets be honest.
My local games store ordered me the Sister's boarding patrol instead of the combat patrol on accident. Didn't even know the boarding patrol existed at that point. Saw the box and what it had, loved it, had him order me the combat patrol and got both. Best mistake of all time.
I like the pairing of the thousand sons combat and boarding patrol, it gives you a good mix of what they offer, pick up a box of sorcerers and Ahriman after that and you're sorted for a good army
Sorry you guys delayed this video to come out for Boarding Patrols, when there has been every indication they are a limited run and will not be making more of them. The Farsight one especially got me, cause yall were like "get the farsight one" like anyone could! And not like scalpers bought them all the moment they were released.
@@commandercostas I hadnt heard anything about that, i do know boarding patrol is being supported to some extend? But listbuilding isn't based on the boxes the same way that Combat Patrols Boxes will apparently get their own gamemode
As someone who bought a box of Termagants and Hormagaunts like 15 years ago for like £20 and hasn't painted them, looking at casually putting together a cool Tyranid army mainly for set dressing now is terrifying in price
I really like this idea, it's nice to have a breakdown of what's the best budget option. Unfortunately (Edit: Boarding Patrols) are a limited thing from what I recall :( I do think it's a shame and they should re-print them just due to popularity alone.
The genestealers combat patrol is such good value its actually insane. Like that box makes building genestealers on the cheaper side compared to some other armies
Funny thing about chaos spawn proxy. Recently bought a board game, can't recall the name but it's western themed where you and other players delve into a mine and there are eldritch horrors and monsters you fight along the way. In the box are these models that are eldritch abominations that are perfect for Chaos Spawn Proxy as long as you can give them 50mm bases instead of 35. Which I'm definitely going to paint as emperors children and it was perfect timing because I just needed to find a way to dump 75pts into my list. The board game was like 110$ or something? But it has six of those abominations in it so it's technically a huge deal.
Ahhh yes, isn't it great when a company overcharges so much that buying board games with tons of stuff in them for a single part of them is still a better deal then buying that one GW product
another great video! Love the edits and pacing. I actually WATCH the video instead of just listening like most podcasts! Keep up the great work, gents!
The Monopose Sisters in the Combat patrol are also nice for making lots of sisters look visually distinct. allthough the models in the box are single pose, theyre in different poses from the almost monopose models in the regular sisters kit. if you want to run 30+ sisters like I do, having some visual variety is nice. otherwise youd see the same poses crop up 3 or more times
I’m actually tempted to start a small custodies force. Sorta wish I’d bought the xmas box. I think if the boarding patrol had Wardens and was £10 more expensive, it’d be perfect
I know that this is very much "broad advice" episode, but man, I unironically love every model in the Necron Combat Patrol. Tomb Blades are my new find in my Necron collection that I like, and unless I am forced not to, I will always take at least 10 Tesla Immortals in any list. I think that getting two of the Combat Patrols with Mephrit is actually a pretty insane list, and maybe setting up 10-20 immortals and making Deathmarks once you get tired of Immortals is the way to go. Kitbashing a couple Overlords is what I ended up doing, making both a Scythe+Orb and Staff of Light+Orb variant that I can throw on my CCB. Only issue is that rules wise, both of the Scythe versions are not good, but with 10th on the way, and the Doom Scythe being pretty good in a Mephrit list, I think that can be overlooked for now. Again, if you are a Canoptek/Destroyer enjoyer, the Patrol is just an insta pass, but I think that saying it's a bad box isn't entirely true.
For space marines what i did is back in the day bought the Recruit Edition and now i picked up the Elite Edition before the new edition hits. From what we saw is very unlikely we will get many duplicates beetween the old boxes and the new ones vs tyranids so taking advantage of those huge discounts the edition boxes offer was a no brainer for me.
So I bought the Eldar boarding patrol, (for kill team mostly) you can take corsairs in Craftworlds armies and they aren't terrible but they don't fill obligatory slots in armies unless the army is all corsairs.
The bikes for Votann are almost an auto take, so it makes sense to me to grab one cp, with the bp, then buy two land fortresses and then more bikes and you’re good.
Started to get into Sisters of Battle and managed to find a Boarding Patrol at a decent discount. Sad to see that the Boarding Patrols were limited runs since it looks like the Boarding Patrols were better than the combat patrols in most of the cases.
that aberrant with the little guy next to him made me think about factions that have silly little guys. whatever that was is the genestealer one. imperium has cherubs. thousand sons has brimstone horrors. orks has grots of course. that would be a crazy, grading every factions x.
As someone who by now owns 6 Necron combat patrols (I love the models and they're very much playable in opr) I find it very entertaining every time you start talking about how much you hate this box. :D
I have no issue with the box but dang putting together to tomb blades the first time was so fiddly, trying to fit the heads between the body and the orb is so frustrating.
As an AOS Tzeentch player, i have 60 Tzaangor. they throw em in everything, but i love the models. I have been trying to make them work so much, but in Tzeentch they're just not good. In the beasts of chaos last book they were great (you ran 30 blocks of them). but it still kinda blows that in Tzeentch they have never been great, but theyre much better in the new book than the old, but just dont work that well with the army.
when it comes to the tau, I'd recommend one of each box to someone starting. To someone who wants to get into tau and is ok with kitbashing, just buy two to three of the boarding patrol-> build one farsight proper, cut the sword off the second and build it as a generic commander, the third is your choice, either trade it for an etherial or sell it or kitbash it into some other suit. Crisis are situational but they are incredibly versitile, and usually earn their points back. The ghostkeel will struggle to do so and the stealth suits might, if you play on tables with excessive cover and always shoot at chaff.
Looking back on this video just a few months later as a new tau player and remembering when the tau boarding patrol sold out in less than 5 minutes and is now nearly 300 bucks everywhere. It was a sizable oof when all I had was a pathfinder team and some stealth suits.
This is not a recent issue. 40k is infamous for being scalper's feeding ground. The most obvious example is the recent Leviathan box that was sold out in literal seconds. People showed they click buy as soon as it's available, placed in their cart and when checked out it's sold out. Then later listed on Amazon or Ebay for ludicrous prices. What's sad is GW doesn't care. Because it doesn't affect their profits; items were flying off the shelves so why do I, a business, have to care if I'm selling stuff too fast? Honestly I envy those that has a Games Workshop retail nearby, because I don't have that luxury.
As someone who bought the Custodes Christmas set, and also wanted to get into Grey Knights I just bought one of each of those boxes per the recommendation here. Now my goal is to get them painted up so that I have a 1000 point army to loan a friend I want to try to get into the game when tenth drops, and we can learn both together. Hopefully he will enjoy it enough to branch into one on his own.
Incase anyone from the future is wondering about the World Eater combat patrol. I recommend it as a World Eater. You get lots of berserkers which allow you have lots of small squads or massive squads. A unit if jakhals which are cheap stuff to body block with or hold a home objective. The leader can be built as lord invocatus who's very powerful or a lord on juggernaut. Should you get 2? If you like hordes then you could but you'll have no elite options and personally I think two hqs on juggernauts could be too much even if one is the lord invocatus
For new players thinking about playing Tyranids, please hold off until 10th edition releases. If you want an example, I later picked up (on the 2nd run) a box of Indomitous Necrons, i.e. 20 Necron Warriors, the Dynasty Quadrilogy (Skorpekh Lord, Canoptek Reanimator, Royal Warden and Overlord) not to mention 6 scarab swarms (comes with Warriors kits), Plasmancer with 2 plasmacytes, and 3 Necron Destroyers. All of these monsters are at the very least, decent to be used competitively, they were the brand new sculpts (Necrons hadn't had many new models for years) and when I tried to sell the Necron half, nobody would take it because everybody got their hands on it. I borderline was trying to sell/trade them at my FLGS to other people for $90 and the Necron players said "no thanks". You can still sometimes see people trying to sell what is essentially nearly 1000 points of Necrons for $90. The same thing occurred in 8th edition with the Dark Imperium box set, however unlike with Indomitous, the box was not a limited run and ran for years. Deathguard was so overinflated that even after 9th edition was around the corner, you could find 1,200 point Death Guard armies on sale on ebay for about $150, or the Dark Imperium half for $60-80 USD (free shipping). The upcoming box is going to replace decades old sculpts bringing new life into the hobby, new models, and you will likely receive what should be 800 points or more of Tyranids for even $100 online, making it drastically cheaper and just better value in everyway. If somebody tries to sell it to you for $150, it'll probably be including the new (although free online) 10th edition rulebook that is bound to be included.
For me, personally, Tzaangors are pretty much the coolest thousand sons units out there. Shame they suck and get forced down your throat so much. But they do look very cool
I understand, for points value, the Chaos Spawn might not be great for the dollar value. But that kit is a kitbashers dream, especially if your into to weird chaos mutant stuff.
Whats funny is i got the opposite, someone at my lgs bought the leviathan set for the Tyrinids and i bought the space marines off him for 100$. It was nice for me starting out in the hobby just a few months ago.
As a grey knights player i may reccomend another boarding patrol as crow if you can find a appropriate sized shield makes a wonderful kit bashed draigo or any other character you want a demon killi sword. And hate resin.
I've got two games stores, one is a dedicated wargaming store that's incredibly neche and out of the way but great prices and one right in the middle of the downtown shopping area that upcharges $10-$15 basically for location, new releases and reputation. I mostly shop at the little store but I had to go to the big one to get my leviathan box.
was listening back to this, and its wild how much they didn't really get the Eldar Boarding Patrol. So yeah, as a method to build up a craftworld army, you wouldnt wanna buy multiples and being corsair themed is very slanted. However, in Arks of Omen, because it got rid of the compulsory troops tax, people could run Corsairs as their cheap obsec with good weapons, and Boarding actions was one of the few places you could have a full corsair list because of only needing 500 points. They also included banshees, which right now every Craftworld list is running at least 1 squad of. So the Boarding patrol is actually really nice for someone who didn't get the kill team, and canget two copies of it now in addition to a unit they already would need anyways, and then Jain Zarr on top of that. I am way on a budget so I had to skip it, but that was the most attractive box that they came out in my eyes. So yeah, still good video, its just funny how that one bit feels so off compared to everything else.
I felt like the boarding patrol for csm was pretty good. While I don’t really see myself having too much of a use for Abaddon seeing as how I collect Night Lords, it really helped getting some basic troops to buff out my army which at that point was a Maulerfiend, lord discordant, warp talons, and some terminators.
Love stuff like this. Helps me out so much. Finally getting in / back into the game. Looking at my old stuff, figuring out what I have and what I need yet. Or to help start fresh if I chose to say F it I'm starting over.
I like taking 3 Eldar Combat Patrols and start converting 1/2 the Guardians to Dire Avengers, Convert a Unit of Shining Spears and an Autarch on Jetbike... Its a pretty Nasty list that really only needs a couple small Aspect squads and Falcons to finish rounding out, or Wraithguard if you want to be a little slower but punchier.
So, I'm standing there preparing smoked corn on the cob, and hearing "if you like Khorne" about 8 times in a row made me lose it. I'm gonna play that over when my wife takes a bite.
I think the CSM Combat Patrol is OK if you use the Havocs to Kitbash Heavy Weapons, but as 10th basically says, "You have to run it as is" then it's sort of up to playtesting now with how the Units now work. I agree that to get a great CSM starter list, One Combat Patrol + Boarding Patrol has you sorted.
As someone who's starting by collecting Sisters of Battle... Ooooff. On one hand, the boarding patrol seems solid. 3 full squads of good units. On the other hand, the combat patrol offers a lot of variety, which is very exciting if you want to practice painting, but might not be as useful, since squads come in strange numbers (1 penitent? 2 flagellants? 4 repentias? ) Plus, with the changes to army builds coming with 10th edition I can't predict how useful everything will be anyway.
Pro tip, If you play CSM in 9th and want a good value box to add to your army. Its The thousand sons boarding patrol. Flamer rubrics are arguably better in standard CSM then in their own legion.
I got my Sisters Combat Patrol for 97.89 from my LGS. All because it sat there for almost a year and a half. I feel like I'm at a pretty good start for collecting them.
Guard doesn't have a boarding patrol but we still have the combat patrol. For those wondering, it's a bit meh. The two troops and command squad are a fantastic solid base that you will need for every guard army, the sentinel is nice to have if you like the model, but you need a squad of three to turn them into a proper menace on the battlefield. The field ordonnance battery is downright bad as an indirect fire option for the guard. The mortars from the heavy weapons teams are a MUCH better option, the basilisk is also better and the manticore is kind of mediocre currently but at least it looks badass. If you add up the prices, just the two troops and command squad add up to the same amount as the combat patrol, so you get a sentinel for free and 2 big cannons that will sit unpainted on your desk for 3 years till GW makes them good. Not great, not terrible, I'll rate it 3.6.
I bought CSM Boarding Patrol. I don't play Warhammer I just paint them. Abaddon looks great, and plus it's got a lot of plastics for a very reasonable price. I do wish I got into the hobby when their Start Collecting box was still around.
As a Adepta Sororitas player I think the Combat patrol is a better value than the Boarding. I look at the Boarding Patrol and I just want to pass. That Rhino and Seraphims are really important to the army list plus that single Penitent Engine/Mortifier means if you get the box with two to get a full squad of instead of buying two boxes and having to ditch one because you can’t have a squad of 4. Also that Chaos Boarding Patrol is an amazing value but you really only want to play as the Black Legion.
One thing i hate about 40k is that for the past few years, I cant find %^& anything. So many things are sold out, then poof back up for a few days in stores or online, and then poof, gone again. It started with Covid but never ended, it's frustrating to go to buy something but I cant find it unless I turn to Ebay and sadly, it's marked up on eBay. This is frustrating. I do like some of the boxes they are making but, I cant find many of the ones I want.
When getting into orks, I got the Combat Patrol, then later someone in my playgroup sold me his old start collecting box, then later I preordered the Boarding Patrol. In theory, that'd have been a great start. Except I also bought like 1500 points worth of smaller boxes in between those three purchases. My wallet hates me.
It should be noted that will simple/straightforward, the world eaters combat patrol has one of the highest potential points counts at over 750+ points in the box
Boarding Patrols are temporary. Grabbing one of those now and a Combat Patrol later is the better idea for value. As for Impulsors, Black Templars love them. They get Multi Meltas on their Impulsors so they don't mind spamming them. Especially since they can stick Sword Brethren in them. For Corsair patrol, they do in fact work with Craftworld Eldar in Boarding Patrol. And honestly most Eldar players use most Eldar factions and don't mind getting all the models for cheap so it's a good value since the models are new and not resin. And you forgot to mention why Flash Gitz were great. They're dressed like Pirates, in a Boarding Actions game format. Perfect.
Hey man kroot are cool, as a kid my dad took me to game store and I saw the kroot and fell in love with them. It’s how I started collecting tau. Even if you don’t like the old Kroot you gotta give the new kill team box credit those new models make me hard
Tau player here. Tau boaridng patrol is better than combat patrol and buying 2 of him is not a terrible idea because you get to kitbash thr wings from a second commander and that leaves you tons of options for commanders off those boxes. That said the combat patrol isnt a bad deal. You want ethereals if you dont run FSE, cadre isnt bad as a tech choice for holding support relics and can be pretty good with enough fire warriors. Stealth suits are great. Those pieces alone mean you basically get a free ghostkeel which, while not insane, is a great hobby model and also fun in casual games
I think I am going to buy the Thousand Sons boarding patrol becuase I live on an island, and shipping costs are crazy here. I'd rather buy 1 box then 3, even if the 3 are a slightly less price.
There is another way to look at this, maybe you can do an episode about it: Are these boxes good to buy an allied detachment - like Eldar & Dark Eldar for each other, Imperial Guard for Space Marines, Sisters and whatever. There are too many possibilities in reality but maybe one of these boxes has some severe advantage and a severe disadvantage that might be cancelled or turned into an advantage by combining different factions...?
I'm watching this vid while painting my 2nd Edition singlepose Space Marines and nothing in the 42 min creates a buying reflex for me. Well, I'm staying true to my pile of shame of 1998 and play true poorhammer. ;)
I think my opinions on Combat Patrols might be shifting when we actually get to see what 10th has in store for the format. I love "precons" in Magic for casual games, so I'm optimistic about being able to play smaller games of 40k with other new people - maybe as a teaching tool too. Plus it gave me a painting goal to finish my Necron patrol.
It sounds like if you're a brand new player, the Adeptis Sororitas Combat Patrol could be a good starting point. Fewer options makes for a simpler starting point. But, I'm new, so it could be different in Warhammer 40k, but I doubt it.