Vampire: the Masquerade - The Embrace (Lore)

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This video deals with mature topics, viewer discretion advised.
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We delve deeper into Vampire the Masquerade lore as we observe the many aspects of the embrace; from how one may be selected to receive it, to the process itself, and the aftermath.
For this video I've decided to contextualize things by having the video revolve around the messed-up power dynamic far too common in the world of darkness. I'd love to hear if you guys think that this way of explaining the lore a good approach, or if I should just stick to a more clinical, analytical type of storytelling.
Again, if you spot any inconsistencies or inaccuracies in my videos, let me know in the comments. RU-vid doesn't allow annotations anymore, but I'll make a pinned post with any corrections.
Originally I was going to cover much more in this video, but squeezing in both the Embrace, as well as the Traditions, turned out to be detrimental to both of them, so the traditions will be covered in my next video.
After that we'll be talking about clans and patreons will be able to vote on which clans they want me to cover first,, although we will limit ourselves to the Camarilla at first.
Finally, I did get around to purchasing the V5 books, so there may well be videos in the near future where I discuss them, particularly out of a lore perspective.
Thanks for watching!
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Комментарии : 76

@rosvlinds 3 года назад

so, vampirism is basically depression + substance addiction

@ThePrimogen 3 года назад

I mean... yeah. Yeah that's actually really accurate!

@CCgivemeawedgy 2 года назад

Don't forget Cynicism, Narcissism, Megalomania, Psycopathy, Sociopathy, Personality Disorders and an extra cherry on top of Lust/Gluttony/Greed Indulgence... And many more!

@cyrolocker1229 2 года назад

@@CCgivemeawedgy So symptoms of substance abuse and depression symptoms

@vampiricagorist6979 2 года назад

Basically yeah. We’re all gloomy crackheads.

@kibbo86 2 года назад

@@CCgivemeawedgy So, it's like being 19?

@simonward-thoms7564 5 лет назад

Another great video, the embrace is such a vital part of a character as you stated and creating a kindred without understanding how he became to be is a huge flaw that plenty of players make. As an example my first kindred was embraced by his brother so that his brother wouldn't have to face eternity alone. A kind sentiment in theory but this was actually really selfish. It was a lot more complicated than that but you get the idea.

@ThePrimogen 5 лет назад

Your example of an embrace is spot on; every embrace has a story behind it and it's often tragic, even if it wasn't intended to be. Great example of how something can be terrible, even with the best of intentions. Thanks for watching!

@jackieanderson9408 2 года назад

She destroys the artist social life and still hasn't decided to turn him is crazy 🤣😂😂😂

@realkosherpork9223 5 лет назад

Just commenting to boost this video in the algorithm.

@ThePrimogen 5 лет назад

Thank you! 😊

@izstrella 4 года назад

Commenting again too to boost

@CommissarMitch Год назад

In my first Vampires game I did play a similar character to this one. He was an IT prodigy from rural Sweden who's career skyrocketed. By the time he was 30 he was the funder and CeO of a 6-digit company he created himself focusing on tech support. He was born in 1976, meaning the company in queation survived the Dot Com bubble and by 2006 was the big one. It should be noted the game took place in 2019, but he was turned in 2015 after a Brujah vampire beat him up and turned him. Yes, an IT expert becoming Clan Brujah. Yes it was part of the comedic irony of his existence.

@arno_groenewald 4 года назад

Do you know of the Princes of Darkness in Crusader Kings 3. This is a Masquerade mod based on the greater world of the Masquerade. With you knowledge of the Lore, it would seem that you might enjoy it.

@ThePrimogen 4 года назад

I know of it but sadly I have yet to play it! I think I should give it a shot though!

@RedFeralWolf 4 года назад

I’m looking to join my first game and I’m trying to soak up all the info that I can about the game. Thank you for putting this info out here. I intend to play a Ravnos so learning what I can about the power structures will be really important sense my character will want to gain as much power as he can.

@ThePrimogen 3 года назад

Glad I could help! Hope you found a game!

@Huddyvonschland 5 лет назад

Omg, favorite video of yours I've seen so far. The best way to describe The Embrace! Please never stop making these videos!

@ThePrimogen 5 лет назад

Thank you so much :) It's my favorite too, but it took a while for it to take off, it's definitely more different than the others of my videos, I wanted to make it a more personal thing than just clinically analyzing the Embrace.

@EthanKristopherHartley 3 года назад

An interesting view of the embrace of a Toreador. You might cover this in your clan lore for them, but my understanding was that the artists in particular find the embrace (after the fact) exhilarating. Being able to view the world with preternatural vision, to see the beauty that surrounds us through a whole new set of senses.

@ThePrimogen 3 года назад

Thank you! Absolutely, the first while post-embrace is most likely a highly productive and energetic period for the Toreador, but many, many of them lose the creative spark after a while, undeath draining them of the same urgency that drive mortals to create.

@obamawtrump8432 2 года назад

I have loved vampire the masquerade since I was 14. Unfortunately. I have never been able to meet people willing to play. If anyone would like to play it online with discord and dice etc. I have been writing a scenario for long time. But would also be up for just being player. Or point me in the direction of some place i can meet people to play with. Please don't my mind name. I'm not a trump supporter. Just a stupid name. Hope someone are interested. Or can help.

@toddweese4060 4 года назад

Before I die I want to hear about a sire/childe relationship that was actually healthy and genuine (or at least as genuine as Cainites can be).

@ThePrimogen 3 года назад

I think there's definitely a possibility for it, but if you look at Interview with a Vampire, for example, you can see how even a positive relationship will eventually be poisoned and go bitter. I personally think it's part of the Vampire deal for Sires and Childer to eventually fall out, with clans like the Gangrel probably handling it way better than, say, the Toreador or Brujah. But I'm definitely not opposed to good relationships, I just think vampires by their nature just aren't capable of the same kind of love giving as humans are.

@monkeybusiness673 Год назад

I recently rewatched "True Blood" and the Relationship between Eric Northman and his progeny is pretty much that. Understanding, respect, even love, and a long lasting mutually beneficial partnership. The end of it is more sad and melancholy than bitter; so there is definitely room for that.

@briankachelman 4 года назад

This is exactly what I'm looking for!!! Thank you!!! I'll be watching all videos!!! I've been playing since 1995 and have loved VTM ever since!!! I'm going in order and didn't comment. Sorry about that. But I can't wait for Tremere lore!!! I've always played the blood warlock vampires!!!

@ThePrimogen 4 года назад

I'm glad you enjoy it! No need to comment on every video if you don't feel like it, I'm happy I can contribute! :D

@briankachelman 4 года назад

@@ThePrimogen do you know of any groups doing online tabletop? I know it's off topic from your lore stuff. But I just really want to start playing again!!!

@marcusclarke5628 3 года назад

Completed the game sadly won't be doing it again loved it however played gangrel love your videos though

@ThePrimogen 3 года назад

You mean Bloodlines? Sorry to hear you won't be playing it again!

@izstrella 4 года назад

Ooh, there is so much more to the embrace experience than one may assume. Thank you!

@ThePrimogen 4 года назад

Indeed! Every embrace is unique and can certainly be traumatizing in many different ways. No matter how it happens, however, it is an experience no vampire will ever forget.

@frankparker1191 4 года назад

If you truly enjoy a Kine and feel that they help make the world a better place, then for heavens sake DO NOT embrace such a lovely work of art. I usually embrace my rivals future prospects before they get the chance, just out of spite. Its as good a reason to ruin a Kines life as any, also it makes me feel rather good.

@ThePrimogen 4 года назад

Ahh, but what would Kindred Society be without the spur of the moment embraces that permanently drive a wedge between the Sire, who cannot understand why their object of affection *won't be theirs* and the childer who are horrified at what they have become.

@frankparker1191 4 года назад

It reminds me of those broody Kindred Elders that stock teenage girls, and expect they are going to have meaningful relationships. You are hundreds of years old and you expect to make a deep connection with some valley girl, were you kicked in the head by a Methuselah or something to that effect? That is what I would like to ask those weirdos.

@mylesvenn185 2 года назад

@@frankparker1191 Are we talking about Twilight?

@maxschreck9988 5 лет назад

Dope! I have been eagerly waiting fir your next video.

@ThePrimogen 5 лет назад

Hope the wait was worth it! Thank you very much for checking it out! :D

@smilevsky 4 года назад

This is really good video for getting the mood of the game right, for sure a must-see for newcomers. Did you write the story yourself or is it from Toreador clanbook?

@ThePrimogen 4 года назад

Thank you! I'm really happy you enjoyed it, I wrote this story myself. It... got a lukewarm response initially so I decided to drop this style of storytelling, but I think I'll give it another shot soon.

@Arrizabalagus 3 года назад

This was really good!

@magmaghost3410 4 года назад

is this first edition, revised or both? I was looking for an old book to buy online about this game, (that i use to play by the way) and the book covers for both can be deceiving. This is a good playlist by the way

@ThePrimogen 4 года назад

This is valid for 1st to 5th edition. My videos mostly describe the setting from 1st to 4th (V20) edition. Revised is Third Edition. If you want the most accurate lore BEFORE V5, I recommend getting Revised and V20

@magmaghost3410 4 года назад

took me a minute but now I understand, if I want to relive revised its also good to get the 20th anniversary addition to go along with revised

@ThePrimogen 4 года назад

@@magmaghost3410 20th Anniversary Edition doesn't cover much of the meta plot, and the Revised-era clanbooks will give you much more information than V20 does. You can say that V20 provides breadth and Revised depth. If you want access to more rules, power and clans, I would go V20. If you want to read up more on the Lore I would recommend Revised or 2nd Edition.

@simonward244 4 года назад

Nice work I enjoyed it as always. Thanks

@ThePrimogen 3 года назад

Glad to hear it!

@bwy553 Год назад

7:56 or you might just follow the wrong guy home from the bar…

@Ipwn0 5 лет назад

Great videos.

@ThePrimogen 5 лет назад

Hi! Glad you like them! :D New one coming up on tuesday!

@Sole_Samurai 3 года назад

this is a gold mine for catching up on the bloodhunt lore hole I have thrown myself into, thank you!

@Caiowars20 5 лет назад

I loved your video

@ThePrimogen 5 лет назад

Thanks!

@kurlykrenins Год назад

Loving these videos.. Also I swear I heard VtM redemption music towards the end

@brockkelly4841 9 месяцев назад

I like playing spite embraces.

@-MacCloud- Год назад

Destiny!? That's a games name.

@lorddaffy 5 лет назад

Good video :) very interesting

@ThePrimogen 5 лет назад

Hey, I'm glad you liked it! Thanks for stopping by!

@lorddaffy 5 лет назад

@@ThePrimogen keep em coming ;)

@ThePrimogen 5 лет назад

You betcha! Considering upping things to a video a week, I have too many ideas! :D

@lorddaffy 5 лет назад

@@ThePrimogen cool stuff :) im gonna watch em.

@Demolitiondude 5 лет назад

I thought Jeanette was malkavian.

@ThePrimogen 5 лет назад

She is! I don't think I mentioned her in this video?

@Demolitiondude 5 лет назад

@@ThePrimogen several times. As a Toreador primogin.

@ThePrimogen 5 лет назад

@@Demolitiondude Oh this isn't that Jeanette. This is a completely made up character. I basically took gw.geneanet.org/sdenais?lang=fr&iz=1832&p=jean+antoine&n=de+mun+de+cardeilhac and changed the gender.

@Demolitiondude 5 лет назад

@@ThePrimogen ok. I know Jeanette fashions herself as Toreador. So thought I'd ask.

@ThePrimogen 5 лет назад

@@Demolitiondude I could've picked a better name in hindsight, I can see where the confusion came from! Thanks for subscribing! :D

@-MacCloud- Год назад

Destiny!? That's a girls name.

@tooth656 4 года назад

I really appreciate this straightforward digestible format. I've played VTM bloodlines many years ago and only recently grew interested in the table top version. This is just my opinion, but I don't see the need to pander to sensitivities with a trigger warning of sorts. The world of darkness is cruel and brutal, a haunting reflection of our reality and human nature. One should already infer they aren't in the kiddy pool any longer before wanting to be offended by the subject matter. Vampires are a personification of wanton savagery barely masked by polite ceremony. Victors don't ask, they take. Woe to the vanquished. Rights only exist for the ones with the strength to enforce it. No room for moral policing or grandstanding. Unfortunately modern outrage culture and the new guard of White Wolf don't seem to understand that, and forcibly try to sanitise it.