Vampiric Bloodline | Precon Upgrade Guide | Commander | EDH | Budget | Cut-Rate Commander

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Cut-Rate Commander - Precon Upgrade Guide for Vampiric Bloodline
Starting off the Channels first Precon Upgrade guide, we'll be taking a look at the Vampiric Bloodline Precon from Innistrad Crimson Vow and its patriarch - Strefan, Maurer Progenitor.
Playing to Strefan's strength of generating blood tokens as damage is taken then using that blood to cheat his vampire brood into play - this build will aim to maximize the value of that by tweaking this precon into a more big evasive vampire build with a splash of +1/+1 counter generation. More big vampire (or swapping our some of the existing ones for more potent picks) will get us more value out of our commanders vampire summoning, in addition to keeping the blood flowing to summon even more vamps as they get over blockers for direct damage. And by adding +1/+1 counters to the mix, which some vampires already have an affinity for, we'll be able to upgrade our smaller vamps into real threats and big vampires to terrifying ones. And of course, we'll need to make sure that Strefan lives to continue spawning his progeny, so protect sources will need to be implemented to make sure Strefan lives and keep the blood flowing until our opponents are bled dry.
Let me know if the comments below if you agree with my choices and/or what you would add to the deck instead. Also, let me know know who you would like to see next by voting on in the comments on the three choices of commander listed at the end of the video.
Decklist - www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/4420...
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@GrazzetMTG 2 года назад

Be sure to Like, Comment and Subscribe if you liked the video and would like me to make content like this in the future. Also, let me know if you like this shorter form video format for Precons, as since this is the channels first one any feedback would be appreciated! Thanks!

@samuellaframboise3147 2 месяца назад

Hey Grazzet! Just a quick question. I am a fairly new MTG player and I really like to upgrade my precons following your guideline. They have been working pretty well. I was wondering, since I like to put the extra budget into them, which cards should I cut to put the upgrades in? I know this is an old precon, but I need your help, please. Thank you very much and keep up the amazing work!!

@Lionthehawaiian 2 года назад

This has been the most helpful form of video I’ve seen for upgrading precons because you showcase the entirety of what you take out followed by exactly what you’d replace it with following a very solid budget! Much appreciated for your insight to deck building and looking forward to more! Definitely subscribing after watching this.

@GrazzetMTG 2 года назад

Glad you're enjoying my style of deck techs and thanks for the sub!

@powderkek8072 2 года назад

This is such a great idea! I'm glad to see precons getting some love. One small idea could be doing something similar to 'here's all the cards we are taking out and putting in, and here's why.' I saw you give explanations of the changes, which is great, I know a good portion would like the quick and dirty, so to speak.

@GrazzetMTG 2 года назад

Thanks for for the feedback! Would you be referring to a more quick overview of the card types I would be cutting (such as the Madness focused cards and the aristocrats pieces in the build for example) before I go into specific details in the cuts and upgrades sections?

@powderkek8072 2 года назад

@@GrazzetMTG I think that would work great! The idea is to show people that there are different engines that they can go, and that this is just one of them!

@ItsBocephus Год назад

Dude your videos are fuckin awesome I love how you’re concise and also explain everything that needs to be known, even in these older vids.

@rhonir3209 2 года назад

You sir just earned a new sub. I’m new to MTG and tried to create a commander deck from scratch around vampires and blood (because I love the theme). It worked okay but lacked some major refinement. You just gave me all the ideas and cards I needed to get it to the next level! Thanks a lot, stay healthy and all the best from Germany!

@benrichardson5662 8 месяцев назад

I've got a few suggestions, some of which didn't exist when this video was made. Ingenious Artillerist and Mirkwood Bats aren't vampires but they provide damage as Blood tokens are generated. Inspiring Statuary let's the blood tokens help cast things, t Ghirapur Aether Grid lets them contribute damage.

@luxray4911 2 года назад

Yesss more of these please King. I don't have enough cards to do your normal cut rate stuff so precon upgrades is what I do

@GrazzetMTG 2 года назад

Glad you enjoyed it!

@jaytarrant 2 года назад

Great video, everything seemed really professional. Love the deck idea and great suggestions for upgrades too

@GrazzetMTG 2 года назад

Glad you enjoyed the build and the video format! Thanks!

@collinkendall1275 Год назад

I started watching Grazzet vids when Battle for Baldur’s Gate came out. I’ve inherited this deck since then, and was quite pleasantly surprised to find a video for it! Thanks G!

@GrazzetMTG Год назад

Happy to heart your enjoying the content and thanks for sticking around for so long and helping the channel grow!

@Galchoo1 2 года назад

*in a heavy Romanian Aristocratic accent* Ah, a surprise to be sure, but a very welcome one! I really like this spin on the traditional Cut-Rate Formula, as it wonderfully gives your content that small bit of spice. The build will definitely go through testing on my end, and it will be quite the tasty treat, so good job! And this is where I would have said which precon I would pick in the vote... IF I HAD ONE!!! Jokes aside, consider putting a vote here as well, as the voting part of each video was one of the main factors that got me hooked to your content. That engagement can be a hell of a drug sometimes, I tell ya! Day 116 of waiting for Grazzet's face reveal. How exactly do you test out decks? Because you did mention that a certain Mono-Black Legendary I Will Not Spoil was underperforming during your testing, and I got curious. Though, if you'd prefer to keep your testing methods a Coffee Donator-only secret or something similar, I won't mind.

@GrazzetMTG 2 года назад

Glad you enjoyed the new video format type! I likely will consider putting a vote here if I do more the the future for maybe voting on which precon I should cover next, but seeing as we only have one other in this set we'll just have to wait for the next one! As far as testing - I primarily use Table Top Simulator to test out decks with my playgroup - seeing as it perfectly lets me proxy all the cards and cuts down on shuffling time for quicker games. Certainly does have all the bells and whistles as MTG Online or Arena, but its as close to playing with physical cards as you can get while playing digitally (in my opinion).

@Vtrjfrost 2 года назад

These videos are fantastic. Thanks!!

@GrazzetMTG 2 года назад

Glad you enjoy them and thanks for the kind words!

@pablocastillo5396 2 года назад

I love this new series of Cut Rate Upgrades, there are some pretty damn goon precons this last year, from strixhaven to DND and the zombies guy from midnight hunt. Very excited to see some of these builds Grazzet Style.

@GrazzetMTG 2 года назад

Glad you enjoyed it! I don't think I'll be tackling the older precons but moving forward I'll likely be using with format (maybe tweaking it a little) to do upgrade guides for the future commander precons.

@Paul24mny 2 года назад

Loving the expansion into precon upgrades, and can’t wait to see what direction you take with spirit squadron

@GrazzetMTG 2 года назад

Glad you enjoyed it and we'll see if we can tackle the Spirit Squadron Precon soon!

@danielsalazar4642 Год назад

Amazing video thank you so much

@GrazzetMTG Год назад

Glad you enjoyed it!

@doctoralzheimersacademiama 2 года назад

Great Video!

@GrazzetMTG 2 года назад

Glad you enjoyed it!

@doctoralzheimersacademiama 2 года назад

@@GrazzetMTG Yes! Nicely structured, very systematic and convincing!

@chrishogan9143 2 года назад

I love a good precon update and I like that you set the monetary limit rather than a specific number of cards/or a specific type of cards. I think it kept it fresh and made the upgrade interesting across the board. I'd love to see which direction you take the spirit precon too! I'm a sucker for these.

@GrazzetMTG 2 года назад

Glad you enjoyed the build and thanks for the feedback! I'll see what I can do for the Spirit Squadron Precon, but it could be a bit before I have the time to tackle it... We'll have to see.

@jarihusso1750 2 года назад

Good job. I already linked this to my "enemy" for upgrades. That fiend won the last game but new devious cards are always fun.

@GrazzetMTG 2 года назад

Glad you enjoy the build and I hope your frenemy enjoys the content as well! Thanks for sharing it!

@xtincantanx 2 года назад

Excellent! You did the best job breaking down what the plan is and why. I’ll definitely be trying this one out. When will you start offering some merch?!

@GrazzetMTG 2 года назад

Glad you enjoyed it! No merch plans any time soon - but it may be worth considering once the channel gets a bit bigger - we'll have to see!

@danblades16 2 года назад

Great production and content, as usual! Wondering what people think about adding a few picks of mine: Juri, Master of Revue: Could get really big with the blood tokens and does damage when it dies to any target. Faith of the Devoted. it's 3c and only 10 cents, does plenty of work in EDH format. Chaos Warp, 3 mana instant to trade a blood token for a (likely) permanent that goes on to the battlefield, or in a pinch, a removal. Reckless Fireweaver, 2C to ping each opponent for 1 damage every time an artifact enters the playing field under your control. Usually 3-4 damage per turn with our Commander out.

@GrazzetMTG 2 года назад

Glad you enjoyed it and here are my thoughts on the cards you mentioned: Juri, Master of Revue - feels more at home in a aristocrats build since this deck will usually be going over blockers than killing them. Faith of the Devoted - this would be great if the we took the deck in a more madness direction but in this build is sadly doesn't work (but can work if you decide to keep the self discarding cards in the core build). Chaos Warp - Great card and would be a great addition - only reason its not in this build is due to having us go over budget, but I would add it in a heartbeat! Reckless Fireweaver - decent card that can get us value as we create blood but in this build I would rather see cards that ping our opponents to generate more blood early if your going this route - such as Blisterspit Gremlin and Spear Spewer. Still, not a bad payoff if you're going all in on blood production.

@2ndai385 2 года назад

Subbed

@GrazzetMTG 2 года назад

Thanks for the support!

@samuellaframboise3147 2 месяца назад

@AdamKaiser1 2 года назад

Surprise Video! Woo

@GrazzetMTG 2 года назад

Glad to hear that you enjoyed the extra video!

@odisseas2570 2 года назад

I'll start with saying i enjoyed the upgrade. However, i had to watch it twice :D First time I was listening to this one while browsing, and i got confused a lot of times on if a card is in the deck or it's being added. Maybe do only ins/outs? That will drastically change the runtime though. Keep up the good work!

@GrazzetMTG 2 года назад

Thanks for the feedback and glad you enjoyed it! I have considered just doing what cards to keep and what to add but figured I should at least give a brief mention to some cards that were cut that may seem odd (like expensive cards, new cards, and cards that would fit the game-plan I'm going for but simply weren't good enough) - to both answer any questions regarding cuts in the video and providing some additional info from what other deck tech upgrades may provide. Still, I'm certainly not married to the idea, so I may play around with it or maybe even leave it up to a vote to see if I should keep it or not... We'll have to see.

@Noremak_Notrap Месяц назад

what cuts would you take out for the 5 upgrade cards?

@nathannetsom5278 Год назад

Which card i have to replace if i’m going to add sorin?

@Filshizzle 2 года назад

Great idea to mix up your series for upgrading new precons, especially to get them focused on a single theme (i.e. tribal) so the synergy is greater from the get-go. Curious to see how you'll buff the Spirits precon as that was widely considered underwhelming, should you choose to go that route.

@GrazzetMTG 2 года назад

Glad you enjoyed the build! We'll have to see if I can tackle the other precon - hoping I can but it may take a bit before its released since these take a bit to put together. Hopefully I can get it out soon though!

@RickarRickani Год назад

In the Innistrad planshift DnD overlay of the Curse of Strahd, Strahd von Zarovich is called Stefan Maurer. So indirectly you are playing a Strahd deck then right? :P

@jasonmckeogh7376 2 года назад

Sweet precon upgrades! Does this mean you’ll do the other decks?

@GrazzetMTG 2 года назад

Glad you enjoyed it! I'll certainly see if I can get the Spirit Squardon Precon deck done within the next week or 2 but we'll have to see if this becomes a regular thing or not.

@danhobbs9831 2 года назад

Hey man loved this video, just subscribed. Just got confused in one part of the video when you said that the token of molten echoes gets exiled before it has a chance to swing. Could you explain how? I’m new to the game and I’ve read the card like 20 times and still don’t get it. Checked Reddit on this but couldn’t find anything. Thanks in advance!

@GrazzetMTG 2 года назад

Glad you enjoyed the build and welcome to the channel! Regarding Strefan, Maurer Progenitor and Molten Echoes, this is what would happen. We would declare an attack, sacing the blood token and summoning a vampire from our hand for free. Molten Echo's see's this and creates a token copy of the vampire we just summoned, but since we already declared attackers the token won't be able to attack that turn - so it will end up getting exiled at end of turn for nothing. Hope that helps! It still still works if we summon our vampires normally, just not when we use Strefan's ability to cheat them out.

@danhobbs9831 2 года назад

@@GrazzetMTG ahhhh gotcha, thanks for the great explanation! Still learning some of the more advanced basics like declaring attacks and blockers. I love the style of your videos by the way, no fluff just to the point, very unique from a lot of other magic RU-vidrs. Keep up the awesome work man!

@Tuckejak 2 года назад

Who would you cut for olivia voldaren, crimson bride and vampire nocturnus?

@GrazzetMTG 2 года назад

I would replace Falkenrath Aristocrat > Olivia Voldaren, Sangromancer > Vampire Nocturnus, and Vein Drinker > Olivia, Crimson Bride. That should keep the CMC's exactly the same as well. Hope that helps!

@wearevenom81 2 года назад

Personally I would prefer if the cost of the deck is not used in the budget. I get the point of it and for some I'm sure they are happy, but what I prefer to do when I take these precons is take them from what I brought them at up to a high end deck, for instance I took Prosper when he was released and brought it up to my main deck now and I've done that with a few others in the past. I just feel the thirty dollars here could have been used for better card upgrades. I do like this though and wouldn't mind seeing more of them, of course with the above mentioned changes, again just personal taste but hey, you asked :P

@GrazzetMTG 2 года назад

Thanks for the feedback and for enjoying the content! I did consider just going a straight up $65 dollars in new cards but ultimately decided that in that I would leave it as $65 with the price including the base deck to really make it $65 instead of ending up with a final price somewhere closer to the $90 mark. But maybe I could expand on the Upgrades portion of the video to include some specific price point increases (like $30 more for example) to make is bring it up to $65 in raw upgrades if you have the money to spend. May be something I need to look into..

@wearevenom81 2 года назад

@@GrazzetMTG Yeah I like your videos being as budget as possible, I’ve enjoyed just honestly buying some decks but like this I would appreciate an occasional high cost versions of some decks that are real popular, like a proper upgrade of “here is the cheap, here is how you can make it super strong with an extra fourty-sixty dollars” and show what you would take out

@sparki85 Год назад

I was pretty disappointed with this precon, hopefully this video will change my mind!

@GrazzetMTG Год назад

Hope that it at least piqued your interest!

@UninvitedGhost 2 года назад

You cut feed the swarm from a back/red deck? What enchantment removal do you have?

@GrazzetMTG 2 года назад

That would be Chaos Warp, since its and instant speed removal option that deals with any permanents. I can see an argument for leaving Feed the Swarm in though to have another enchantment removal option, but I prefer my removal to be instant speed or at least attached to creatures whenever possible.

@ellak531 2 года назад

@@GrazzetMTG Hey there! Built the list in the description, but it contains neither Chaos Warp nor the Feed The Swarm, and was this intentional? Love the deck, and was curious about it

@GrazzetMTG 2 года назад

I could have sworn it was in this build but as it turns out I was wrong (I checked the decklist and it wasn't on it). I'm guessing that it was due to its price at the time - but with the reprints that it has gotten since it should really be in here - probably swapping out Urge to Feed for it. My bad!

@ellak531 2 года назад

@@GrazzetMTG Appreciate the response! I wouldn't have noticed it myself, but needed to dig for an answer to a problem enchantment (always need to out Rhystic Study), and discovered late in the game I had no Enchantment removal! They won't get away with it again, and thanks for the update, swapped out the Urge to Feed. Here's to more good games and good videos!

@pattap9033 7 месяцев назад

I am more or less underwhelmed by Bloodlord of Vaasgoth. His Problem is, that he only triggers, when i cast vampires. And this deck does not want to hard cast vampires the most time. It wants to cheat them in by strefan, revival or for example Bolas Citadel. So the bloodlord ist often very pointless even when he gets cheated in by himself. To often he enters just as a 3/3 flyer. To weak and to dependent in my eys.

@rhonir3209 2 года назад

@GrazzetMTG 2 года назад

Glad you enjoyed the build and welcome to the channel! Its good to hear that this build helped get some idea's flowing for your own, since vampires our a pretty popular tribe in our format.