Vance and Hines Super Q Baffles in Shortshots Pipes • Install and Comparison

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I wanted to take the loud top-end crack noise out of my Vance and Hines Shortshots pipes that are installed on my Harley-Davidson FXBB Softail Street Bob, so I set about switching out the stock baffles for the V&H 'Super Q' super quiet baffles (Part 21912).
I'm a novice when it comes to doing mods on my Harley but I jumped in boots and all. If I can change the baffles in my pipes, I think anyone can!
In this video I compare decibel readings between the Shortshots' stock baffles and the Vance and Hines 'Super Q' Baffles and give my initial thoughts on the volume reduction.
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@MisterKiwiRider 3 года назад

UPDATE: Adding these baffles will greatly reduce the noise emitted but will limit the performance of your engine and because the engine will have to work harder to compensate, fuel consumption will increase.

@highoctanegarage4301 3 года назад

So I’ve heard mixed reviews, some say it will help with performance because of back pressure and now your saying it affects it?🤔

@MisterKiwiRider 3 года назад

@@highoctanegarage4301 I read and watched those same reviews before I tried them too. I guess I can't speak to anyone else's experience but for me they stiffled exceleration and because I had to pull harder on the throttle to make up for that, fuel economy was in the toilet. For me the theory of back pressure equalling performance sounded good but the reality didn't live up to it, at least on my stock engine

@Martin-bh1nx 2 года назад

Hey. Great vid! Was it correct to leave the plastic on the baffle when innstalling? Thx👍

@MisterKiwiRider 2 года назад

@@Martin-bh1nx yes, the plastic is intended to be left on for instalation

@TeensierPython Год назад

Engines don’t like back pressure. I don’t know why people keep thinking that.

@martinXY 3 года назад

My neigbours love my shortshots. They wave at me with their fists as I ride fast. At night, they turn on their house lights to say 'hi', and babies cry me a special greeting.

@MisterKiwiRider 3 года назад

Haha, aww, well that's very lovely of them. What a nice neighborhood 😁👌

@aussietj1 2 года назад

mine set of V&H's staggers set off car alarms......

@martinXY 2 года назад

@@aussietj1 hahaha. mine do, too, in multi-storey car parks. Makes my day :-)

@SPARTRANS 2 года назад

I have short shots on the 114 fatboy,, looks good , but fuck there loud,, I can hear the neighbours moan from 3 houses away 🤣🤣🤣, small rural community

@rayurlich 2 года назад

Comedy gold. 😄

@chrisroberts1129 Год назад

Good to see an honest presentation by a down to earth guy.

@MisterKiwiRider Год назад

Cheers 🤟😎

@harriperkio5773 Месяц назад

Some years ago I made 'inside tube' 500mm long from SS net, with 3-4mm holes and wrapped with ceramic wool... The noice came down around+20-27db, depending on length of the tube.. I could not feel any difference on the power.. yet neighbors were extremely happy..

@ThrottleDownunder 3 года назад

It's " baffling" .......how much I love your vids

@MisterKiwiRider 3 года назад

Haha, thank you brother 👊😎

@calimilk1113 2 года назад

Great job!! I agree heat shields are a pain in the ass!!! Thanks for posting!!!

@solfpv2713 Год назад

Thanks for the vid. love the way my short shots sound in the city, but not on the highway.

@Mr.McStache 3 года назад

As a paid mechanic I meddle along every day lol. You said all there is to do now is place the heat shield I just laughed. Good job

@MisterKiwiRider 3 года назад

Haha! Those bloody heat shields were the worst brother. I cut out all the swearing 🤬🔥🤬🔥🤬🔥😂

@Crowbar381 2 года назад

With all the variations in colour on the pipes, it actually looks fantastic, hardcore and just plain cool with the heat shields off

@MisterKiwiRider 2 года назад

Good idea!

@edgar.almeida 3 года назад

I bought a bike with some StraightShots. I also got the Super Q for them since my right ear once ringed for a month after a concert. Now I don't take any risks. Ear plugs in concerts and baffles on the exhaust. I also don't like to be a pain to the neighbours when I go out super early or late night. Sometimes I want to hear the Vance&Hines sound as it should be, but too much trouble to be changing the baffles everytime, so I just let it be. Maybe someday I'll invest on some 'dr jekill and mr hyde' exhaust with the valve so I can easily switch from loud to quiet.

@nzwillie 2 года назад

just installed these a couple of days ago .i lost that nice fast throttle response and alot of power from low and mid once in higher rev range it seems to still rip. made my fxfb from a monsta into a tame beast .i will be taking them off and just keeping them for a wof if needed ,alot quieter and i would say ok sounding but not as nice as the standard baffles imo ,a real shame i was hoping for same sound just a bit quieter ,thanks for the vid my fellow kiwi

@MisterKiwiRider 2 года назад

Thanks Mike. Yes, ultimately I replaced back to stock for similar reasons. all the best 🤙

@TheKingG2010 Год назад

Sounds smoother for sure

@jaccar3211 2 месяца назад

Totally agree had some straight throughs on a sportsters and couldnt take the racket on a long ride, so returned it to standard, stopped all the poping as well.

@metcruza5536 9 месяцев назад

Well done Kiwi...nice vid 👍👍👍

@impoppa9647 3 года назад

Go into your local hearing clinic and get them to make you a set of custom molded noise attenuation ear plugs. Your ears and Cochlea will LOVE you for the rest of your riding days. And in case someone is wondering if just a couple dB makes a big difference, the answer is YES as dB is based on a logarithmic scale and so as you go louder the spread increases drastically. as such to go from 80dB down to 70dB is a huge drop in sound

@Dest74 Год назад

I just use earplug headphone combo. I can't hear jack shit while riding

@Doomzday831 11 месяцев назад

@@Dest74what brand do you use?

@edwardogomez2919 Год назад

Nice review sir. Well done

@MisterKiwiRider Год назад

Thank you kindly

@TonysGarage 3 года назад

Well done👊. I will say the quite baffles help a lot and a tune will also help. Great video guys.

@MisterKiwiRider 3 года назад

Thank you Tony, yes, a tune is definitely in order now 👍

@keithjeep4920 2 года назад

Thank you for the comparison video. I got V&H side shots on my HD iron. The stock baffles on mine are insanely loud. Love the low growl of those super Q's. Sounds great. Definitely gonna put some on mine. 👍👍

@rivera7 2 года назад

Love your vid, thanks for explaining everything. Any update on what you did to fix the power issue these baffles cause in terms of acceleration?

@MisterKiwiRider 2 года назад

Cheers! In the end I removed them. The ultimate finding was that if I wanted to quiet the pipes using baffles I'd have to accept that they throttled the engine and lowered performance. I wasn't happy with that and put the stock ones back in some weeks later.

@calimilk1113 2 года назад

Maybe a fuel pack 3 tuner will adjust for the quite baffles ?

@twilliamsusmc 3 года назад

My question was answered about the plastic wrapping over the insulation. I left it on but wasn't certain. Good enough

@stephanelemarie3961 7 месяцев назад

Merci pour ta vidéo ✌

@maakatipa4613 4 месяца назад

Hey Mate, gidday from a fellow Kiwi living in up state NY. Yeah just got me an intruder 800 for next to nothing, but it has short side cuts with no baffles, so it's pretty efing loud. Still have some ceramic baffle material from when I did up a vintage 1979 Honda Cm400 2 into 1. Was just checking out what other brands guys are using when your vid popped up ! Enjoy life there in God's own , cos I tell you what mate, it's phuking crazy here in the states.

@msg63bretired82 Год назад

Well done.

@PoppaWheelies 3 года назад

I bought a 2014 FatBob with Short shots , no baffles at all. It was fun for a while, but I was sick of decel popping . I ordered quiet baffles also. I installed them last night . Major reduction. It’s not rattling the windows inside the house when it fires up anymore . It was late when I finished so I only ran up the road or mile or too. I did notice right away it didn’t fall on its face after throttle off anymore

@MisterKiwiRider 3 года назад

Awesome, I hope they work out for you in the long run

@OpenRoader 3 года назад

Right tighty, lefty losey??? I thought bolt threads where opposite south of the equator? 🤔🤔🤔😛She sounds great man!

@MisterKiwiRider 3 года назад

Nah, it's only the side of the road we drive on that is "arse about face" down here 😁

@OpenRoader 3 года назад

@@MisterKiwiRider I was up in Scotland a few months back, had to rent a car. It's been about 10 years since I've had to drive on the left (lived in Japan for a few years). I had the car for less than a day before I ran into something LOL. Not as easy as it seems. Ride safe

@briansauer6695 3 года назад

Hahaha! That's the first thing that came to mind when I heard him say it! Greetings from Canada!

@Madcatdave Год назад

looking at a Cvo deluxe with these pipes on it. I'm glad I can quite down alittle because they look great but I don't want it super loud.

@LionFXmedia 2 года назад

with quiet baffles sounds much better in my opinion

@bq5952 2 года назад

Nice video. I wished you held the phone exactly the same way at the 2nd reading . It looks like you are shielding the mic . What app are you using ?

@MisterKiwiRider 2 года назад

I certainly wasn't intentionally shielding the mic. It was a non-scientific reading just to give a sense of any sound difference. It was an app from the Google play store. Likely one of the first free ones that come up when I searched decibel reader 👍

@02bigkev 3 года назад

I had to quiet my exhaust because of ears on long trips, not a Harley or Vance and Hines but the ears love me now...lol

@MisterKiwiRider 3 года назад

Mine will to I'm sure 😁👌

@LamontJackson 3 года назад

Great video but I took my baffles completely out. It’s a Harley, so I want that Harley sound. :)

@MisterKiwiRider 3 года назад

Haha, I hear you 😁👍

@Olizart 3 года назад

I can't help but wonder what dbs you are getting without the baffles. Could you d'load that app and let us know? Cheers mate. ;)

@MisterKiwiRider 3 года назад

@@Olizart With the stock baffles they sit around 75 to 80, without baffles they sit around 85 to 90 and, because decibel measurement isn't an even progression, at that reading they were unbearably loud 👍

@Olizart 3 года назад

@@MisterKiwiRider OK, geez I thought it would have been even more. Whats the legal limit there in NZ? I think it's around 92 here in Austratlia NSW, so it still would have been legal eh. Only asking cos I'm gettin a Wide Glide this weekend with Short Shots (it was friggen load) and done want a defect from the Po Po.

@JTSouthernfried 3 года назад

Heat shields are a huge pain😖 I have the ringing of the ears 100% of the time. It sucks. So while the reasoning for putting these on I get. However.....on a spiritual level I fundamentally disagree with ever making a beautiful machine like that more quiet😁

@pell557 3 года назад

where do you find the part number on the V&H pipes exaust system so I know what model of baffle to buy?

@MisterKiwiRider 3 года назад

I looked up my pipes on the V&H website, which then indicates which baffles will suit that model

@HughBeRiding 3 года назад

Really interesting vid and result. Your ears will love you for it ! Just curious what is the decibel app you were using ?

@MisterKiwiRider 3 года назад

I think it is just called Sound Metre 👍

@anthonylingard7248 3 месяца назад

love the look and the sound of the short shots but i find myself always worrying that my boot is going to melt on the pipe why they made them drop behind the the foot peg and not in front got me baffled

@mikeward2922 2 года назад

So, did you do the tune. I may have missed that if you did. How's the performance now?

@MisterKiwiRider 2 года назад

I actually switched back to the original baffles after advice from the workshop. These quiet baffles just limited the engine far too much

@CantTreadOnMe Год назад

Will I be able to pass NY state inspection with short shots on my Harley 48? Anyone know? I'm worried about it as I just bought a 48 with the VH short shots and intake and taking delivery of it in a couple days and worried about inspection now.

@CantTreadOnMe Год назад

I am in the exact same scenario right now and get my bike in a couple days. Did you pass NY inspection? I have the Python full exhaust and screaming eagle air filter stage 1. I'm so stressed about inspection and don't even think there are baffles in the pipes. How'd it go for you? If u wanna see my bike, it is my thumbnail and in community tab on yt. Please lmk how you did. Hope it went OK for you.

@TheBlueBikeDoyle 3 года назад

I dont know look like you handle the rag on stick like a pro. 👍😁👍👂👍

@MisterKiwiRider 3 года назад

Haha, you're too kind! I have various rags and sticks, maybe I could go professional?

@TheBlueBikeDoyle 3 года назад

@@MisterKiwiRider LOL 😆

@marosjurina1996 3 года назад

Could you compare original HD exhaust with combination of V&H + Super Quiet baffles? Is combination of V&H+Super quiet baffles much more louder than original HD exhaust?

@MisterKiwiRider 3 года назад

Forgive me if I have misunderstood but do you mean one pipe with a Super Q and one with an original baffle at the same time? I wouldn't recommend that. Because the Super Q also baffles the engine, making it work harder, each cylinder would be working at different rates, which would likely be a recipe for disaster.

@marosjurina1996 3 года назад

@@MisterKiwiRider No :) I have now stock Harley exhaust and I would like to replace them by V&H Shortshots + Super quiet baffles. So Im trying t find some info how louder it will be :)

@MisterKiwiRider 3 года назад

@@marosjurina1996 I see. Perhaps if you still have the stock ones on your bike you could do a similar decibel reading and then compare my reading and yours 👍

@marosjurina1996 3 года назад

@@MisterKiwiRider Im still not 100% decided if I will go into these V&H :) But if I will, I will try to make something similar ...

@MisterKiwiRider 3 года назад

@@marosjurina1996 good luck and all the best. Enjoy the ride, whatever you decide 🤟

@MrMurphc13 Год назад

Are the stock baffles installed in the V&H pipes when new?

@MisterKiwiRider Год назад

Yes they are 👍

@MisterKiwiRider Год назад

Apologies my friend, I was reading your recent comment and deleted it by accident >-

@jamespolucha8790 11 месяцев назад

Do the quiet baffles have a plug in the end to stop flow ?

@MisterKiwiRider 11 месяцев назад

Yes, they do. I wound up removing these after a short time due to poor engine performance

@algesbrek5695 3 года назад

Are their quiet baffells that can go in hd 1200 stock pipes

@MisterKiwiRider 3 года назад

I'm pretty sure the stock baffles in them are the quietest you'll find 👍

@davidking226 2 года назад

Have they got louder over time? I heard that the insulation degrades over time.

@MisterKiwiRider 2 года назад

Hi there, unfortunately I never got the chance to find out. The baffles throttled the engine too much for my liking and I went back to the original ones

@zacklou 3 года назад

Kept on wanting to sing Iron Man. 😆

@MisterKiwiRider 3 года назад

😆I didn't pick it until you mentioned it! You're right!

@Sandman0411 4 месяца назад

I onced got pulled over by a cop in a bike, instead of giving me a ticket he wanted to race 😅

@MisterKiwiRider 4 месяца назад

😆👌 Nice!

@majkelandzelo 2 года назад

Totally limited performance in my Nighster 1200. It was impossible to ride anymore, no acceleration at all.

@MisterKiwiRider 2 года назад

Agreed, I removed them only a few weeks later

@luisrivas34 11 месяцев назад

The Main reason about this behavior is because you need to remap the bike, the map for standar and quiet bafles are different, so, if you just change to standar to quiet without remap you will get poor performance.

@Kiwi_Fruit_Fruit 2 года назад

I had only just installed my short shots on my Vstar. Way to loud and my ears are paying the price. They should have the option of quiet baffles for their product. Also on a side note I prefer the old garage days album. Not the new stuff. Metallica were crazy in the early days. I’m referring to the poster on your garage wall. Peace

@allentrevena6841 Год назад

Is that a leather ground sheet?

@MisterKiwiRider Год назад

Nah, just a piece of carpet

@theodavies8754 Месяц назад

Super Q aren't good if you have cams with bigger than stock overlap. On decel reversion popping in the pipes spits back into the inlet/carb. Yes they leave low end torque but it's not good to lug at low revs. 500 miles in will be a lot louder under load. Getting them back out after the plastic has melted is a long job. There is no shortcut to digging the fiberglass out with a hooked wire. GLOVES..... Outside. Really, the glass fibre dust will make everything sparkly for weeks. Next time I would definitely take my advice.

@calimilk1113 2 года назад

Thanks for sharing, yes the heat shields are a pain in the ass!!!!

@MisterKiwiRider 2 года назад

Haha, yes they are!

@johnbodo Год назад

Should adjust engine controler(Fp3, Dyno jet, stb)

@MisterKiwiRider Год назад

Not long after this I removed these baffles, installed stage two and dynoed the engine. Got 100hp out of it. This bike has a new owner now. A young guy who seems to be enjoying it hugely. Cheers to you!

@DailYxDosE 2 года назад

If you don’t ride with earplugs then your ears are gonna suffer from riding even if your exhaust is quiet.

@robg3284 2 года назад

man your baffles came out easy, tried to do mine on my v&h longshots, nope not happening, had to grind bolt head off as it stripped even after a good soaking of wd40 then the baffle would not come out, alot of swearing later, {and i mean alot} found another bolt and put it back together, so old baffles stay

@MisterKiwiRider 2 года назад

Sometimes there's no rhyme or reason. When I took these ones back out it was a two day job with similar problems to you. Ahh, the joys of doing it yourself.

@ardyrides834 Год назад

You must have older pipes on your Bike. Remove the bolts securing the baffles in the pipes. Ride it like that for a while. When you notice the baffles moving out a bit, soak them with a penetrating spray liquid overnight. Then ride it some more. If you really want to remove the baffles, remove the pipes so you can stand them on end. Then spray penetrating in and let them sit overnight.

@robg3284 Год назад

@@ardyrides834 awesome thanks for the info will give it a shot

@bed4958 3 года назад

phone db won't really pick up low end decibels you would need a proper db reading tool

@MisterKiwiRider 3 года назад

Thank you, I appreciate the infor. I figured it wouldnt be overly precise. Just enough to show any difference against its own readings 👍

@bed4958 3 года назад

@@MisterKiwiRider i'm sure with the proper meter it would be a bigger difference.

@SINasTER75 2 года назад

I have the twin slash cut on my '21 sportster and are loud af! I mean, 90dB on idling and 95-105dB on heavy throttle. Seeking to replace them with screamin' eagle street canon because I’m tired of getting tuckets every 3 days and the SE are suposed to be street legal 🤷🏻‍♂️

@MisterKiwiRider 2 года назад

I hope the change works out well for you ✌