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VCI Hobby, Axis Flying and EVERY Hypetrain Motor Tested! 

Chris Rosser
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Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
0:33 Bench review
4:36 Open door testing!
5:26 Measured KV
6:41 Thrust
7:54 Efficiency
8:59 Torque
11:29 Response
13:07 Summary Scores
14:28 Analysis
15:25 Throttle feel is not only about the motor

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Комментарии : 71   
@bentoogood
@bentoogood 2 месяца назад
Would love to see a video comparing a lot of the cheap branded Aliexpress motors. Like 'Surpass Hobby', 'ReadytoSky' etc. The ones that are half if not a quarter of the price of a lot of branded motors and see if they are any good! 👍
@LowetheTechGuy
@LowetheTechGuy 28 дней назад
I know for 1/10th scale touring RC cars they are ok in the beginner classes but not in the higher classes.
@DroidAssembly
@DroidAssembly 5 дней назад
probably a reason he doesn't review them
@LowetheTechGuy
@LowetheTechGuy 5 дней назад
@@DroidAssembly correct, my buddy is a pro tc car racer/engine builder and the only good motors aren't cheap. Anything half the price of something good will be have the quality and durability. Pointless
@chrisbee5481
@chrisbee5481 2 месяца назад
Can you tell us which motors are made by which manufacturor? Like HGLRC, foxeer, speedybee, aos, fpvcycle, ummagawd and many more are all made by rcinpower. Seems like the rotorriot hypertrain, webleed, oddityrc and many more are made by VCI. Axisflying split from t-motor as a seperate brand. I think those motors are also still made by t-motor. The pyrodrone motors are made by brotherhobby. Most eachine and low budget motors found on the big chinese vendors are made by flashhobby. It's a jungle out there, but maybe you can bring some light into the darkness. Basically knowing some of these facts might help to judge the quality, knowing which big manufacturor is making them. 533 motors made by xnova not to forget. I'd like to know if iflight makes the xing motors themselves.
@FlybyJames
@FlybyJames 2 месяца назад
Great suggestion. I have always wondered who the OEM is for all the different branded motors. How many actual manufacturers are there?
@cinemoriahFPV
@cinemoriahFPV 2 месяца назад
Have you thought about putting a gyro on the test stand to compare the mechanical noise from each motor?
@speedbird300
@speedbird300 2 месяца назад
Accelerometers
@cinemoriahFPV
@cinemoriahFPV 2 месяца назад
​@@speedbird300accelerometers are integrated with most modern gyro packages....
@jamesmason7124
@jamesmason7124 2 месяца назад
Thank you for your hard work, it's appreciated. Anyway you can do a 4 inch long distance motor test with motors like the Flywoo Dave-C-FPV 1404 V2 2750kv or the t-motor or whatever you think would be the best for 4 inch long distance motors
@ohJayFPV
@ohJayFPV 2 месяца назад
Since this is a power/weight comparison, the big thing to consider here is durability. Motors with more material and a bigger air gap, won't rank up as high in this comparison, but have the huge benefit of being more durable.
@LovesM855A1
@LovesM855A1 Месяц назад
Thats FALSE! Where did you get that nonsense….. magnet gap has nothing to do with durability or more material…. Geez
@ohJayFPV
@ohJayFPV Месяц назад
@@LovesM855A1 Lets compare 2 motors. One with a 1mm air gap and one with a 2mm one. Both have exactly 4mm of 7075 aluminium as bell. Both motors take a hit, which deforms the bell by 1mm. The bell of motor 1 will grind on the stator, but the other one can still spin freely. So I would conclude that motor 2 is more durable, or what do you think?
@LovesM855A1
@LovesM855A1 Месяц назад
@@ohJayFPV I think as well built as quality motors are these days with one piece bells made of 7075 t6 alum, and titanium shafts they can take a beating and days of fragile motors are OVER! If you do enough to do what you claim the motor is trash anyways
@ohJayFPV
@ohJayFPV Месяц назад
@@LovesM855A1 That's not the point. Bigger Air Gap = more durable. I bent quite a few bells on quality motors, and instead of having a little more performance I prefer to not repair my quad.
@LovesM855A1
@LovesM855A1 Месяц назад
@@ohJayFPV I disagree and more gap means cheap low quality motors…. You want the gap tight PERIOD…. Run your junk motors Ill stick to top tier…… now go back in your grandmas closet and go to sleep.
@DanZfpv
@DanZfpv 2 месяца назад
Worth mentioning that the VCI Titans use .1 lamination layers. This is supposed to help with efficiency. And may be why it faired better than other motors on the efficiency front.
@keithcarpenter5254
@keithcarpenter5254 2 месяца назад
Thinner lams help reduce eddy.
@tehllama42
@tehllama42 2 месяца назад
I was already an AxisFlying fangirl, but now I'm going to go even harder on enjoying those (especially if I can get them in Supafly colorways).
@joltax
@joltax 2 месяца назад
Amazing level of detail in your tests
@xfOL.
@xfOL. 2 месяца назад
cool and interesting test as always! thanks a lot
@JohnIn2SonAZ
@JohnIn2SonAZ 2 месяца назад
Excellent work Chris.
@ddegn
@ddegn 2 месяца назад
Excellent video. Thank you.
@FPV_Chris
@FPV_Chris 2 месяца назад
Thank you very much for all of the information again! Looking really forward to see the BTFL 4.5 guide video, if 4.5 will be ever released.
@GeKoFPV
@GeKoFPV 2 месяца назад
Hi Chris, very interesting! Is there any possibility that the Split magnet design would benefit from Fettec/Kiss ESC sinusoidal commutation more-so than a regular magnet shape? Maybe I am thinking about it the wrong way, but wouldn't a slightly skewed magnet field be better driven by a 'smoother' commutation method? Finally, is there any benefit to lowered electrical noise in the case of a scewed magnet? Wouldnt the back-EMF be weaker?
@Crownleyian
@Crownleyian Месяц назад
Love your work mate absolutely legendary stuff! My eyes thank you for the grey background on your graphics the white background kills me every time. 😅
@butcher
@butcher 2 месяца назад
What an awesome analysis and the thumbnail image is hilarious :D :D
@k4x4map46
@k4x4map46 2 месяца назад
nice referenceable info!! thanks!!
@LowetheTechGuy
@LowetheTechGuy 28 дней назад
I could be wrong but I feel like some of these motors would perform better with a different prop. Such as the Bubby motor, I would love to see the results with a 4" or 3.5" prop on it. I don't think every motor should use the same prop. It's like trying a v-8, v-6 and 4-cyl all in a heavy vehicle or all in a light vehicle. Some will perform better in heavy and some in light vehicles. I think that some motors specifically require a particular prop for optimum performance.
@JuicySmullietFPV
@JuicySmullietFPV 2 месяца назад
This is the video I’ve been waiting for. I’ve been eyeing those VCI motors since they came out thinking their unibell design may be more durable than the split bell of Axis (especially in the economy line). I wish we could test durability.
@yat3659
@yat3659 2 месяца назад
Shouldn't the Responsiveness scores be scaled by measured KV? Or/and by power draw?
@neilfpv
@neilfpv 2 месяца назад
The FPV Cycle 25mm 1870kv data is very interesting and very appealing! Thanks Chris!
@LS-xb2fh
@LS-xb2fh 2 месяца назад
I would love to see a comparison of the bEMF waveforms of the two fpvcycle motors.
@ericseidel4940
@ericseidel4940 2 месяца назад
ENGINEERING QUESTION (good idea for testing/video?) Pursuing the goal of long range/best efficiency/lower power draw, is it better to : 1 - 4S battery, full throttle. 2 - 6S battery, same propeller, reduced throttle 3 - 4S battery, bigger diameter prop, reduced throttle. Motor/esc stay the same. Prop is chosen low pitch & have the best efficiency in 1rst case. Throttle is managed to get EXACTLY the same traction in the other cases. Interresting to know if esc frequency can change the result and maybe other parameters I don't see ? Many thanks in advance.
@frankyfrench5279
@frankyfrench5279 2 месяца назад
thanks for testing, in future test could you please include the efficiency curves for the motors as function of RPM ? As efficiency is far from a linear curve and very important on flight time and cinematic cruize.
@gusDoTebyaDoebus
@gusDoTebyaDoebus 2 месяца назад
I would like to see the testing of the rcinpower bison 22.507 engine. It consumes only 20 amps with a thrust of 1.6 kg
@DriftaholiC
@DriftaholiC 2 месяца назад
Hmm, for freestyle I usually like the most responsive motor but choose a low pitch prop even a slightly smaller prop like a 4934 for response and low throttle control. I even went 8s to try to amplify the torque response. I kinda keel like the weak motor crowd could do the same with just a lower kv but keeping with a big stator. Though, I'm not nearly the caliber of pilot represented here.
@ChrisRosser
@ChrisRosser 2 месяца назад
Have you tried throttle expo?
@fpvkevlar8101
@fpvkevlar8101 2 месяца назад
Should test the black bird V3 2725 Kv Axisflying.
@keithcarpenter5254
@keithcarpenter5254 2 месяца назад
Why was your motor not included as a standard comparator? Edit. Obviously commented before the end! 😅😊 Top job.
@STEDDiEFPV
@STEDDiEFPV Месяц назад
These are not all HypeTrain motors, I was hoping you had the Freestyle 2306 2450Kv on here, but I guess I am the odd one out still flying 4S
@lefunetyjc
@lefunetyjc 2 месяца назад
cool man please test Axisflying Bando motors
@christhorney
@christhorney 2 месяца назад
i run my throttle mid at .22 and expo at .75 or something like that, it gives my throttle curve this funky shape but it feels reallllly good on the sticks, gives me a lot of precision around my hover point for landing and stuff, these pilots who cry about needing to have a "linear" throttle blow my mind, because if your throttle is "linear" then in reality it feels super not linear because the thrust increase from 25% to 50% throttle is much higher than say 50% to 75%, so having the expo actually makes it feel super linear, i wish more people would play with throttle curves
@Inertia888
@Inertia888 2 месяца назад
Flatten out the hover point? It seems obvious, but I'd never even considered it, in the year that I've been flying. I just kind of accepted that holding a steady hover, would be a continual battle between me and my sticks… Looks like I know what I'm doing for the next two days.👍
@christhorney
@christhorney 2 месяца назад
@@Inertia888 i just double checked my throttle settings and i have on my 5inch a 0.25 throttle mid, and .5 expo. On my 3.5inch i have mid at .3 and my expo at .6. I also run scaled throttle limit (not motor limit) at 95%, it makes the quad feel a lot more stable and controllable at full throttle, because the pidloop can command that extra 5% throttle and not have only lowering the motor rpm as a means of stability and control and you really dont notice any loss of thrust, I fly rural areas with huge trees so im always full throttle ripping up and over the trees with movements while im at full throttle and i find it helps a lot to retain control and have a smoother rip, i run that 95% scaled throttle limit on all my quads
@Inertia888
@Inertia888 2 месяца назад
@@christhorney I fly a similar landscape. I have a long and narrow field, about 90meters x 30meters, as a run-up to a patch of tall trees, about 25meters tall on average, and a bunch of older trees in there about 45meters tall. Lots of places to zip around treetops, and play around inside and under the canopy. The speed is fun, and whipping around the tall ones, I have found myself building a natural racetrack. But then slowing down and flying between the vines and thicker undergrowth is a whole different challenge, with its own excitement. It sounds like you've given me a great place to start. Looking forward to playing around with it, as soon as the rain stops. Appreciate the share! Happy Flying!
@ourchannel8215
@ourchannel8215 2 месяца назад
Hi...try making a video about very cheap motor and esc from China...there are many types of esc that there is no brand that does not know the details about it and no one makes a video about it...😊
@smartfpv3992
@smartfpv3992 2 месяца назад
would you pleaaaase ever test the Amax motors?? :)
@burdfamfpv
@burdfamfpv 2 месяца назад
So basically buy your "motors" GOT IT! Lol
@JoaoMarcos-zt1eg
@JoaoMarcos-zt1eg 2 месяца назад
I mean...they are the best 😅
@burdfamfpv
@burdfamfpv 2 месяца назад
Lol I have yet to try them but I've heard good things
@keithcarpenter5254
@keithcarpenter5254 2 месяца назад
Was a good way to show what he'd been saying. Receipts.
@ohJayFPV
@ohJayFPV 2 месяца назад
Who would have thought that his motors rank up the highest in his comparison... There is certainly more to consider like durability for example. Take the data but do your own thinking!
@dfgaJK
@dfgaJK 2 месяца назад
I loved how hard he tried to keep a straight face when recommending his own motor... A slight increase in top lip tension but other than that a good poker face 😂
@GK-dd5ci
@GK-dd5ci 2 месяца назад
What about five33 2207 Champions 2070KV?
@gabyguay6990
@gabyguay6990 2 месяца назад
cool 😃
@christhorney
@christhorney 2 месяца назад
i run vanny v2 1860kv i wish you tested my kv aswell lol :(
@heartofamericafpv5584
@heartofamericafpv5584 2 месяца назад
I think you missed a pilot branded motor to the right of Vanny.
@Fidoh
@Fidoh 2 месяца назад
VCI
@Bigbeardfpv
@Bigbeardfpv 2 месяца назад
Do you like them? If so, why?
@madforit9661
@madforit9661 2 месяца назад
Hi sent you a message about 1404 motor, be obliged if you could answer. Cheers
@breakflight
@breakflight 2 месяца назад
You really need a cursor or pointer so we can track what you are talking about easier.
@deroskar
@deroskar 2 месяца назад
second
@xedoken
@xedoken 2 месяца назад
first
@willbrown8928
@willbrown8928 2 месяца назад
Elev8 FPV has nothing to do with Hypetrain. Elev8 is Cricket's company. @Chris Rosser
@suicidequad
@suicidequad 2 месяца назад
the part on throttle feel is amazing. worth clipping! - btw, i am running supernovas on 8s at 80% now. i am worried about the heat but the responsiveness, torque and specifically the stopping power mid-move is absolute insanity. i love them so far! video coming soon. - if i ran into overheating issues and don't want to lower performance - what motor size/KV would i look for on an 8s 4.9-5,3 inch quad? bigger is better in terms of heat i would asume?
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