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VCM Muzzler - long term review (5 years 70,000 miles) 

Andrew Wang
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7/06/2023 Mileage Update 121,652 (Nothing new to report).
A review of the VCM Muzzler II installed on my 2014 Honda Odyssey after 5 years and over 70,000 miles of use. Honda's VCM (Variable Cylinder Management) operates by shutting down the engine from 6 cylinders to 4 cylinders, then to 3 cylinders, to improve fuel efficiency. VCM can cause issues with your engine such as foul spark plugs, oil consumption, and bad engine mounts. VCM Muzzler solves that by keeping the Honda 3.5L V6 (J35) in 6 cylinder mode.
Update review at 100,000 miles • 100,000 miles with VCM...
Update review at 120,000 miles • VCM Muzzler II review ...
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How to install VCM Muzzler II. • How To Install VCMuzzler
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@alanbloom9507
@alanbloom9507 Месяц назад
I have VCM Muzzler on my 2012 Honda Pilot. I installed it in 2015 in have over 100,000 mile on the vehicle now and it works great . As Andrew said I forgot about it.
@Mrdubomb
@Mrdubomb 2 года назад
I need to buy Mr. Verbatim a beer. What a great contribution to society this invention has been.
@gregnixon1296
@gregnixon1296 4 года назад
I disabled my VCM several years ago with a Muzzler. My excessive oil consumption stopped right away. Night and day. I have had annual emissions tests since then without any problems. Honda should offer a disable button on their vehicles so people have the choice of using this feature or not.
@penelopeLovesYou
@penelopeLovesYou 3 года назад
Newer Civic has eco button on 4 cylinder
@billpizzifred5769
@billpizzifred5769 3 года назад
@@penelopeLovesYou 4 cylinders don't utilize VCM--- only Honda's with 6 cylinder engines... it disables either Cylinder 1, 2, 3 or 3 & 4 when in it drops in eco mode (there is no button like on my Accord-- it goes into eco automatically during low power conditions) ..... I changed my Spark Plugs on my 2011 Odyssey at 215,000 miles (had been previously done at 125,000).... the #4 cylinder spark plug was all fouled up-- had caused a CEL with code P0303 (Cylinder 3 misfire).... 1, 2, 3 sparkplugs were lightly fouled... 5, and 6 looked great (these cylinders are never disabled by the VCM)--- I purchased VCM Muzzler last October--- no problems..... 227,000 miles on vehicle now-- I have not inspected the plugs since then but will soon.
@wiimaster2847
@wiimaster2847 2 года назад
@@penelopeLovesYou That button is for ECON mode, there's a difference. Either way, 4 cylinders don't have VCM. V6 models have the ECON button as well, but it's not a VCM button.
@wiimaster2847
@wiimaster2847 2 года назад
Honda can't offer a button to disable it as that would negate the benefit of having it. The EPA is why they need to have it.
@christianposten6699
@christianposten6699 2 года назад
Heck even my 2015 Kia Rio has an eco shut off button and it’s just a basic edition with no power windows or locks 🤣
@Lugnut64052
@Lugnut64052 Год назад
I installed one on a 2009 Honda Pilot, which was fouling out the #1 spark plug about ever 15,000 miles. It cured the problem, and it's been on there so long I've pretty much forgotten all about it. Worked great!
@davidson46100
@davidson46100 3 месяца назад
I have a 2011 Honda Pilot. I went to a 5000 mile oil change interval with full synthetic or synthetic blend oil for high mileage engines, and regular use of Redline Fuel treatment using 5 oz per tank about every other tank or so, or I put name brand detergent gasoline in it. The plugs run clean and the piston tops are much cleaner. I put a scope down through the spark plug holes during oil change to inspect. At 122,000 miles the pistons and plugs run cleaner then when I bought it at 66,000 miles. To be honest it didn't use oil, but it did foul the plugs a couple of time before I changed the plugs at 96,000 miles. On the current maintenance routine it has not errored or fouled a plug at all in 25,000 miles.
@sheliadavis4752
@sheliadavis4752 4 года назад
Thanks for the information about your VCM experience.
@MrAccordman
@MrAccordman 3 года назад
Thank you for this video Mr Wang. This video was professionally done and explained about vcm.
@deangallo5158
@deangallo5158 3 месяца назад
Best thing I ever did for my Odyssey. Mileage dropped about three MPG and the rumbling disappeared, well worth the mod.
@rustywrench100
@rustywrench100 Год назад
Thanks Andrew, for an extremely concise and informative video! I've recently purchased a 2018 Pilot EX and definitely leaning towards doing this hack because I generally keep my cars until their only value is for recycling lol. We also currently own a 2003 Pilot with 253K miles and it still runs strong, although it's finally succumbing to body cancer(located in northern IL). The '03 is our local beater and as a retired ASE Master tech maintaining my own vehicles, I keep the '03 ("The Beast") in safe/sound shape. Lord willing, the '18 will serve us as well as the beast has🙏
@DBRGB
@DBRGB Год назад
Thank you for the explanation of the VCM muzzled and mpg results. When choosing between high maintenance and motor damage, over lower mpg with lower maintenance costs and less damage to your investment, I think you made the correct choice. In the long run, paying a little more in mpg is better than ruining your investment. Smart choice. Thank you for sharing this valuable information. Good work.
@Mike-lt6sj
@Mike-lt6sj Год назад
I had a vcm tuner I installed on a 15 accord coupe and drove it for 6 years and 130,000 miles. No issues with the car at all, and my best mpg was 35.8. Vcm doesn't save gas, it damages the engine and keeps hippies happy.
@TrackSol
@TrackSol 2 года назад
Thank you for your excellent feedback!
@bradstoybox8811
@bradstoybox8811 4 года назад
I had one sitting in a drawer in my desk that I meant to install but never got around to it till today! It took only a few minutes to put this on my 2011 HFP Accord and now I need to take a nice long drive to see how it functions. Thanks for posting this video!
@bradstoybox8811
@bradstoybox8811 4 года назад
Well I started with the Blue resistor as recommended and all seemed fine but when I came to a stop the ECO light would come on almost immediately. Ambient temps here were running around 34 C or 93 F so it's pretty toasty with high humidity so i guess that wasn't unexpected. I switched to the brown resistor to see if it works better today. Supposed to be 35 C today so it will be a good test.
@792bnz
@792bnz Год назад
​@@bradstoybox8811 I'm a little late but if you get ktuner, no lights on the dash and governer delete
@teknotech
@teknotech 4 года назад
Thanks for posting this, Andrew. I also have a 2014 Odyssey, and have not experienced any of the downsides to VCM that people have talked about. But I may still want to install it for preventative measures. My van has always gone into and out of ECO mode very smoothly. Thanks again for your efforts!
@squidusn71
@squidusn71 4 года назад
It's a complicated system that one shouldn't mess with when it's functioning properly...just my 2ct.
@redlense4
@redlense4 Год назад
@teknotech My experience has been the same with my 2015 Odyssey. It's been totally smooth into and out of ECO mode. Just out of curiosity, what type of engine oil do you normally use?
@frazer9
@frazer9 Год назад
@@squidusn71 you're high
@RonOsbourne
@RonOsbourne Год назад
@@frazer9 i use olive oil in my car LOL
@lucybrenton149
@lucybrenton149 3 месяца назад
@@redlense4I have a 2012 Odyssey and just bought one of these to install. I have been getting a flashing engine light and is throwing codes for cylinder 1 and 3 misfires. It runs rough. Hoping this fixes it.
@jaysonstewart596
@jaysonstewart596 2 года назад
We just bought a VCM tuner; appreciate your feedback on "tricking" the VCM.
@nickpietras6321
@nickpietras6321 4 года назад
thank you for the information, planning on installing on my 2016 odyssey
@65mustanggeorge
@65mustanggeorge 3 года назад
2012 accord exl 90000 miles no issues no oil fouling or burning car runs like the day I bought it muzzler is the way to go !!!!👍
@jerrymiller8984
@jerrymiller8984 5 месяцев назад
Best review I have watched! Thank goodness for the vcm
@andrewwang3900
@andrewwang3900 5 месяцев назад
Two more. 1. At 100k miles. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xt_L_EztFuw.htmlsi=biBaLFv4MDEW7iGQ 2. At 120k miles ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-0vJxYxZLxlY.htmlsi=Hc33bZMj87HXy8mP
@danbo98042
@danbo98042 3 года назад
Thank You Andrew!
@greedomccan4595
@greedomccan4595 2 года назад
I installed this on my 2019 ridgeline let me just say I love it ...it's lot more responsive when you wanna pass some one on the hwy and at a stop. Gas mileage about the the same on my dailey commute. I ve had it for month now and very impressed with the results..
@vanshpatel7755
@vanshpatel7755 Год назад
Which Muzzler did you use
@lannyhoward25
@lannyhoward25 4 года назад
I added the vim muzzled ll to my 2009 Honda Odyssey several months ago. I was shocked at the positive, instant difference it made. No more random shudders and hard jerking at road speed. No difference in fuel mileage, but a very noticeable improvement in response and power! I’m very happy I installed the muzzler ll. It took less than 5 minutes. No more eco mode light coming on and off, just a very smooth drive.
@Bobcatspiritdude
@Bobcatspiritdude 2 года назад
How much did it cost? Thanks
@josegonzales815
@josegonzales815 2 года назад
Did you have two remaining wires? Do they just hang alone?
@mugensohc2.271
@mugensohc2.271 2 года назад
@@josegonzales815 yes they hang there I took mys and bought small zip ties and zip them up as clean as possible. I forgot why they like that .
@josegonzales815
@josegonzales815 2 года назад
@@mugensohc2.271 thank you!
@jesseplz
@jesseplz Год назад
Same I paid $140 for it
@martinradtke5181
@martinradtke5181 4 года назад
Andrew thank you for the long term report. I have a 2015 Odessey EX-L that left me stranded in the Upper Michigan (Hancock - Keeweenaw Peninsula) last week. I do all my own meticulous maintenance....and was shocked to see "Engine Check Light" go on at 68K miles. Worse....it's out of warranty AND closest Honda dealership was almost 100 miles away. AND the small dealership was booked 2 weeks out. The next closest dealership was Sault St Marie. Fortunately our friends recommended Northern Driveline Transmission shop for diagnosis & repair. P0303 showed badly fouled carboned up sparkplug at #2 cylinder. Part of porcelain was missing. Northern Driveline mechanics were superb; frankly I was relieved to find competent mechanics. The R&R the plug with Autolite ....this is GM / Ford / Dodge country. FYI I'm an old time Shade Tree home mechanic. After a lot of research....I'm replacing all plugs and PCV and running some fuel cleaner. I'm buying this kit. My only regret was I should have bought the Toyota Sienna...
@andrewwang3900
@andrewwang3900 4 года назад
Thanks for sharing your story. I have 89K miles now, and would like to replace all of my plugs too, even with the VCM Muzzler on. However, I want to see how long it would last, and provide another update video that "I made it" to the schedule maintenance interval on OEM plugs, with the VCM off. I think that would be the conclusive test that VCM Muzzler is a great device in the long term.
@strangerland9791
@strangerland9791 3 года назад
Sienna comes with it's own baggage from my understanding (I hear rear bank spark plug change is like 2-3 hour affair among other things). The issue here is that while VCM is engaged, all 4 valves close shut while piston still goes up and down creating vacuum inside the chamber causing oil to be sucked into the chamber. If it is short while, then minimal oil that bypassed the piston rings will burn, BUT if VCM is engaged long enough, there will be enough oil inside the chamber to be burned eventually causing plug to foul up and at worst case, the piston ring gets damaged causing excessive oil consumption and will need to be rebuilt for a lot of $$.
@LJManagementLLC
@LJManagementLLC 4 месяца назад
in the end, VCM muzzler should be installed. Right ?
@Dmitry-DS
@Dmitry-DS 3 года назад
Thank you, that was a great video!
@ERone43
@ERone43 4 месяца назад
Thank you for this video!!!!
@andrewwang3900
@andrewwang3900 4 месяца назад
Check out my two other updates on the VCM Muzzler. Link in the description.
@OLong-fv8vq
@OLong-fv8vq Год назад
Thank you Andrew! I was about to avoid buying a Honda Pilot because of issues I've heard the VCM engine. Now it's back on the list along with the they highlander, and I like the Highlanders interior much better than the Toyota. The other issue is that the Toyota has a timing chain which I never have to worry about ideally and buying these vehicles used means that I automatically have a $1,000- $2,000 dollar service bill changing a timing belt with the Hondas have. Again thank you thank you, nice video
@trinhnguyen1887
@trinhnguyen1887 2 года назад
I installed VCM Muzzler Gen 2 on my 2008 Odyssey EX-L in June 2015 with 60 K miles on the odometer. I never removed the device after installation and no auto mechanic made any mention of it. 6 years later the van is at 95 K miles and I am happy with this device. As others reported, the ECO light turns on occasionally if car is idling for a while in hot weather. The van never shows any sign of engine overheating after installing the device ( and I reside in Central Texas ). I replaced my 6 spark plugs recently at 95K miles and all the plugs were bone dry. Maybe the VCM Muzzler prevents the plug fouling on my Odyssey, I am not sure. But in other aspects such as engine vibration and hesitation I can say the van drives smoothly with all 6 cylinders producing power at all times. I am getting about 18 mpg city and 24 mpg highway, pretty much the same as before VCM Muzzler installation. And perhaps my engine mounts will last longer since there is much less vibrations with VCM Muzzler in place. Thanks verbatim for such a clever invention.
@HellBird1
@HellBird1 4 месяца назад
Where did you purchase your VCM muzzler?
@mohamedmoselhy397
@mohamedmoselhy397 4 года назад
Thanks man, that was so helpful.
@oAddictz
@oAddictz 3 года назад
If you're hesitant, don't be. I bought a 2010 Honda Accord V6 and had not even put 5k miles and already two trips to the shop, both trips, misfires. Sitting at 103,sum miles. Today was my first day of installing the part and already feel a difference. Less vibration and no more jerking when coming to a stop (thought it was my transmission.) Maybe now I won't trade my car in 😂
@oAddictz
@oAddictz 3 года назад
(Update: one week later, noticed my needle on the rpms slightly above 1000 during a cold start. After about a half hour of driving it sits between 500-1000 rpms on idle)
@markman090
@markman090 Год назад
I hate that jerking stuff, especially in the winter. I feel like I'm in less control when its constantly going in and out of this crappy low power mode. its expensive for me to buy in canada but i think ill get the vcmtuner II
@izziereal2010
@izziereal2010 3 года назад
Hello Andrew, thank you for this review. I purchased one for my '06 Odyssey. I must say, it has been working great for the past 3 months. My van runs smoother than before. It is very easy to install and to change the resistors as the outside temperature changes. Looking forward to another update in the near future. Thanks.
@OGGamingJedi
@OGGamingJedi 2 года назад
How do you buy 1 I have been looking for one for my odyssey with no luck
@OGGamingJedi
@OGGamingJedi 2 года назад
And what do you mean easy to change the resistors? Do you have to take it off ever winter?
@izziereal2010
@izziereal2010 2 года назад
@@OGGamingJedi The resistors that come with the device can be switched and they each cover certain maximum temperatures before they are not effective depending how hot or cold it is outside. The temperature outside also affects the temperature of your engine. Later after my comment, I learned that you can attach the white resistor to the Muzzler and the ECO typically doesn't turn on, unless it's 110 degrees or more outside. If course, check your coolant from time to time since the Muzzler purposely decreases the car temperature to prevent the ECO feature to turn on.
@akhtarsoomro3400
@akhtarsoomro3400 3 года назад
I appreciated very good information thanks
@lightningfisher8177
@lightningfisher8177 4 года назад
THANKS BROTHER!
@factionfx
@factionfx 4 года назад
thank you for the video!
@acespades6958
@acespades6958 3 года назад
Great video thanx so much
@textaylor312
@textaylor312 2 года назад
Thank you for providing this. A reliable Honda mechanic had suggested this to me to get rid of a meddlesome P3497 error code that periodically appears on a V6 Accord - and then, only during highway driving. I've never had a problem with engine mounts or oil consumption. It's a car frankly that we need to replace as it has now gone over 200K, but I would love to milk for a year until the car sale craziness stops. I am always hesitant to add something to a vehicle that's not suggested by the manufacturer. However, the periodic error code has made the car unreliable for highway driving as the car performs very poorly once the engine light appears. Let the car cool, clear the code and it runs fine again. Unfortunately, the VCM Muzzler II is out of stock due to the idiocy of COVID shutdowns, so I will be trying a different brand (S-VCM controller) that also gets good reviews. I feel much better about adding this component to my vehicle after seeing this review. People like you are a godsend to taking the time to review products for their reliability. Much appreciated!
@andrewwang3900
@andrewwang3900 2 года назад
Thank you. FYI, here is the 100k miles update. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xt_L_EztFuw.html
@VisosTravel
@VisosTravel 3 года назад
I just ordered mine. We been replacing spark plugs every 6 months and having check engine light and vcm light on. hopefully this will fix old of that. Great review.
@elcabezon85
@elcabezon85 3 года назад
Post yours results after you installed
@VisosTravel
@VisosTravel 3 года назад
@@elcabezon85 changed spark plugs of course the number 3 was bad. Then put the vcm Muzzler with red resistor and the car feels better than new. Fantastic!!! Fyi make sure engine is cold or the readings wont work and you may have to play around with different resistors. I got to exited when I got it so I put the red one with Engine warm. The e o light was still coming on. So I changed it to the brown then I got an engine emissions check engine light. Finally I waited for car to be cold installed the red again and so far after a week no issues at all.
@Juliansamaa
@Juliansamaa 3 года назад
When you took it off, was the engine hot ? If so, did you get other warning codes on your dash ? I had taken mines off prior to service but the engine wasn’t cold and I have VSA and other electrical units pop up on my dash now (16 Accord)
@dekideki9519
@dekideki9519 4 года назад
I installed my yesterday on Honda accord 2008 v6 VCM muzzler 2, no problem and no more ECO light for now im happy 😀!!!
@aseemagarwal6040
@aseemagarwal6040 3 года назад
Eco light still off?
@dekideki9519
@dekideki9519 3 года назад
Yes!!!
@aseemagarwal6040
@aseemagarwal6040 3 года назад
@@dekideki9519 Do the radiator fans kick in? Because the muzzler alters the temperature sent to the ecu..
@rafatorres1420rt
@rafatorres1420rt 3 года назад
@@aseemagarwal6040 I got the same question , I just bought the vcmTUNER
@aseemagarwal6040
@aseemagarwal6040 3 года назад
@@rafatorres1420rt Install it and then check.. please let us know what happened
@tinachavez8712
@tinachavez8712 3 года назад
Top notch review..Thank you so much, Sir.
@ghc7910
@ghc7910 3 года назад
Great video ! I have a 2012 with 112k miles on it is it not worth buying this late in the game ? Wife wants to drive this thing until it hits 300k miles on it I just don’t want to more harm than good.
@tinachavez8712
@tinachavez8712 3 года назад
@@ghc7910 It cant cause any harm..We have a 2010 Accord 3.5 with 134,000 and it been fouling 2 plugs every year and using at least 2 quarts between oil changes..The VCM is a bad design by Honda..For 100 I just bought 1 couple days ago..We will see what happens..If it even helps somewhat it will be well worth it.
@rafatorres1420rt
@rafatorres1420rt 3 года назад
@@tinachavez8712 so want updates after installing it on the accord?
@michaellorenson2997
@michaellorenson2997 Год назад
Excellent, thanks
@vicever08
@vicever08 3 года назад
I did not know VCM until my odyssey started to vibrate at cruising speed, I installed VCM Muzzler it worked and smoothed car. But the engine mounts were already damaged and caused CVJ leaking. Fixing all the problems costs more than the car's worth. I fixed the problem by driving a new car without VCM.
@A1K3NFISHING
@A1K3NFISHING 3 года назад
Very helpful. Just bought my wife a 2013 Honda Pilot. She loves it. But was upset about its response. This settles it and makes me feel more comfortable attaching the muzzler. Thank you.
@Ecuador006
@Ecuador006 2 года назад
@@elessin7 it was all talk no action
@daveclark8337
@daveclark8337 4 года назад
I just removed my VCM delete because I need to get my 2010 Accord smogged soon. I probably could've left it in, but better safe than sorry. I forgot how much worse the car runs with the VCM 'working'. Even on the freeway, the engine feels so jerky and unresponsive compared to when it's turned off.
@blandry021
@blandry021 2 года назад
I'm buying a new Ridgeline 2022,(currently own 2011) and had questions about VCM controller, and your video answered them all and some I didn't think about. Having it on for 5 years is also a good test, recommendation. Thanks.
@andrewwang3900
@andrewwang3900 2 года назад
Here is my 100,000 mile update. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xt_L_EztFuw.html
@danjoe22
@danjoe22 4 года назад
Andrew - got my VCM muzzler installed. So far no dash board codes, ECO indicator has not lit. Only symptom I had was some oil consumption and two fouled plug occurrences so if no more of that I will know the muzzler worked. Thanks for your help and support.
@andrewwang3900
@andrewwang3900 4 года назад
Glad to hear that. Keep on motoring.
@aseemagarwal6040
@aseemagarwal6040 3 года назад
What happened now?
@danjoe22
@danjoe22 3 года назад
@@aseemagarwal6040 No problems since vcm muzzler installed. Car is not driven as much since covid, but oil consumption is gone and car runs great.
@aseemagarwal6040
@aseemagarwal6040 3 года назад
@@danjoe22 And what about the cooling fans? If the muzzler give incorrect reading to the ecu the fans will not kick in or does they? Is there any overheating problem?
@danjoe22
@danjoe22 3 года назад
@@aseemagarwal6040 I have had no overheating problem. The muzzler alters the temperature sent to the ecu slightly, just enough to keep the eco from kicking in. In fact, the eco system can come on momentarily from time to time. Otherwise the cooling system still functions as normal. Even before I installed the muzzler the fans rarely, if ever kicked in. The honda v6 engine has an efficient cooling system. The fans are just a back up.
@abubakargarbashehu9850
@abubakargarbashehu9850 4 года назад
Between 3.5 Vtec and 3.5 I-Vtec VCM Which one is better in Honda Pilot 2006-2008 models? Thank you.
@socratesvela8285
@socratesvela8285 2 года назад
I re-ringed under Honda care at 55K, today at 118k I have to re-ring, but this time, I have to pay $3000. The eco is definitely not worth it if I have to pay $3000 every 50k miles. I have a 2012 Odyssey. I will pay the re-ring job and will install a muzzler. Thank you so much for their video.
@lorayaht.lenore6646
@lorayaht.lenore6646 Год назад
whats re-ring
@socratesvela8285
@socratesvela8285 Год назад
@@lorayaht.lenore6646 replacing piston rings
@antonioperez9087
@antonioperez9087 4 года назад
I am getting the svcm for my 2012 Honda Pilot just bought the Pilot like 3 months ago I didn’t know about this. I don’t fill any problem driving the car but I am putting it on my car. I wonder if the dealer or someone else did the pistons rings already it has 125000 miles on it?
@lp2733
@lp2733 4 года назад
Andrew, Thanks for posting your 5 year assessment of the Verbatim VCMUZZLER. I agree with everything you have said about the Muzzler. I own a 2017 Ridgeline and I’ve had my VCMUZZLER from Verbatim installed since the vehicle was new. Never had to return to the dealer for warranty work so it stays installed In my case, I hated the what I call the rumble strip vibrations when the VCM engaged. I live in Southern Florida where summers are hot and winters are warm. After trial and error with the different color resistors I found the Red resistor to work best in my vehicle. In the last 2 years of use I’ve had 2 error messages (check emissions). I think the computer in my 2017, finds it and calls it out... Both times it has occurred right at first start up of the day. There is no affect on the vehicle as I have driven it with the error message and fixed after my return home. The fix is simple clear the code by disconnecting the positive connection of the battery, code clears and that’s it. For me it has not been a problem, even with these 2 codes. Again thanks for sharing your post. 👍
@andrewwang3900
@andrewwang3900 4 года назад
Thanks for sharing your experience. And Ridgeline is want I want next - because of the J35 V6 and 6 speed auto combo.
@whitestang65
@whitestang65 3 года назад
Also south florida here, recent used odyssey purchase. Any issues at all besides those emissions codes? Looking to buy one asap.
@lamina666
@lamina666 4 года назад
Thanks for the video Andrew. I think I'm going to install this on my 2012 Pilot.
@elcabezon85
@elcabezon85 3 года назад
I just bought 1 pilot 2 week ago with 120k miles and thinking of buying one
@lamina666
@lamina666 3 года назад
@@elcabezon85 Do it. Been absolutely fine for me. VCM kicked on once or twice since I've had it, but only after idling in a drive-through line or something like that. Well worth the money.
@emdavid30
@emdavid30 3 года назад
Does a mechanic shop install a vcm muzzle ?
@lamina666
@lamina666 3 года назад
@@emdavid30 I don't see why a mechanic shop wouldn't install one with the included instructions. It's so easy though. Took me less than 10 minutes and I'm not a mechanic. You don't even need a wrench to do it.
@emdavid30
@emdavid30 3 года назад
@@lamina666 Where did you purchase your muzzler from ? Do your eco light still come on after you install the muzzler
@awongutume
@awongutume 2 года назад
Hello Andrew, great vlog! On behalf of the many users, much appreciated. A concern though, have you or any of your followers reported a check engine light as a result of it's use? If so, what code was it and are they still driving with it on or does it go away?
@andrewwang3900
@andrewwang3900 2 года назад
I've never had a check engine light using the VCM Muzzler. I used to blue one. Some will replace resister depending on the season, such as red. My experience has been with the blue one, so no check engine light for me. I've heard/read others who experienced check engine light with the red. There are more colors now for the resisters. I only have the choice of red or blue when I got mine.
@charlesrussell7090
@charlesrussell7090 2 года назад
thanks for the info.
@TheRockacer22
@TheRockacer22 3 года назад
Believe it or not this may sound crazy but with my driving habits the vcm muzzler actually gave me better mileage in my pilot ( from 21 hwy to 26). I have a suspicion this is because the 4 cylinder mode of the pilot has a harder time cruising on the highway and maintain speed than the 6 cylinder thus my rpms sit higher and more fuel is burned.
@aseemagarwal6040
@aseemagarwal6040 3 года назад
At what milage u put the muzzler?
@TheRockacer22
@TheRockacer22 3 года назад
@@aseemagarwal6040 I had put the muzzler at 120k mileage. But, if I were you I'd put it on asap. It gets rid of oil burning problem on these engines as well as the spark plugs fouling early problem. That's how I found out about this, my sparks plugs were fouling every 3 months leading to misfires, the vcm muzzler cleared it right up.
@aseemagarwal6040
@aseemagarwal6040 3 года назад
@@TheRockacer22 Thanks for replying Man! Oil burning problem gone completely? Actually I am buying a used accord 09 with just 20k miles on it. Will be putting the Muzzler asap 🔥
@EEStopXplore
@EEStopXplore 2 года назад
This is very possible if the car has clean injectors and you use Lucas feul injectors cleaner.
@cryeredd7563
@cryeredd7563 8 месяцев назад
also, in town there is more engine breaking w the vacuum on the 3 cylinders, meaning you have to get back on the gas a bit to coast in town as well
@SuperAngelles
@SuperAngelles 3 года назад
Hello Mr. Wang thank you for this very informative video. ONE MAJOR QUESTION Sir. Does installing the VCM Muffler VOID the Honda Factory warranty? I just purchased a 2019 Pilot EX for the Mrs and she totally loves it. She does complain about something odd when she drives it which brought me to this video after two month of research. So again does the VCM Muffler VOID Hondas Factory Warranty? As we keep our cars very long term I purchased the Honda Extended Warranty. So you all know I myself and still driving an 02 Accord LX 2.4L with 5 speed manual tranny. Why? She is the best car I have Ever owned, although as of a year ago mechanical things are just now breaking down in her and I'm replacing these parts as they appear.
@andrewwang3900
@andrewwang3900 3 года назад
Anything added that's not OEM (or OEM replacement) can void warranty. However, if that is a concern, just unplug it before you take it back to the dealership for warranty work.
@whatsitlike6392
@whatsitlike6392 5 месяцев назад
I'm at 112,000 miles. Just installed Muzzler. I've gone through two sets of spark plugs, miss fire error several times and over a quart of oil consumption between oil changes. I sure hope this helps and I'm not too late. I saw you can ruin rings. Fingers crossed. Of course, I'm beyond the time for Honda to pay due to the law suite.
@joewilliamson8456
@joewilliamson8456 3 года назад
Andrew, my issue seems to be the vibration issue due to the VCM and not necessarily fouling plugs. Our 2006 Odyssey has over 150,000 miles on it but runs great. We have been experiencing increased vibration not only at idle but very noticeable at higher speeds when the ECO mode kicks in. Being that engine mounts are so expensive unless you buy aftermarket ones (and I have not seen many positive reviews for using aftermarket) I am thinking of trying this before I spend $1000+ for mounts on a car worth $3-4000 and a weekend day ripping old mounts out. My only issue is not knowing if the mounts are already ruined from the past 14 years of driving before putting this in to resolve the issue??? Recommendations?
@andrewwang3900
@andrewwang3900 3 года назад
I agree that the engine mounts may need replacing. $100 (I don't know how much VCM Muzzler cost now) is better than $1,000+. Tough decision considering the value of the van. I guess it will be your decision on how long you wish to continue driving it.
@marcusl594
@marcusl594 3 года назад
@andrew wang - it's dependent upon the coolant temperature so my question is have you ever gotten the engine hot enough where the Eco mode with the vcm still finds a way to turn on?
@andrewwang3900
@andrewwang3900 3 года назад
Yes, like sitting in bumper to bumper traffic on a 110 degree summer day. The ECO light will come on for a few seconds then turns off again. I use the blue resistor. The red resistor blocks it further. I don't feel I need that with my driving conditions. I also read that the red may trigger a check engine light, at times. Never had a check engine light with the blue resistor. I believe the VCM Muzzler now comes with 5 resistors. Mine package came with only two back then.
@kalarPhaYar
@kalarPhaYar 4 года назад
Thank you so much. I was wondering of the jerk when VCM kicked in as transmission problem. Since it tricks engine temperature sensor into reading low, any effect on radiator fan?
@andrewwang3900
@andrewwang3900 4 года назад
No issue with the fan or when it kicks in. IIRC, the temp reading is about 7 degrees difference. Temp can affect the engine block (cracking). No issue for me, so far, after 75k+ miles. And I've not read anyone having that issue.
@freedompioneer4311
@freedompioneer4311 2 года назад
My exact question!! I assumed I may have a "transmission judder feeling" but is it just the VCM doing things because I feel this even when the eco light isn't turning off or on.. 🤔🤔
@milesfifer171
@milesfifer171 4 года назад
Thanks for this video. You said it all. Honda did VCM to meet EPA standards, it's not and I say NOT good at all for a long term engine, this VCMuzzler is the best thing you can do for this engine. So if you want your engine to last and run good for a long time this thing is a must. Their are forum's out their explaining the damage VCM does and how it works. I remember back in the day when GM made a V8 that had cylinders cut out at running speed, what a pile that was.
@scottamy6496
@scottamy6496 2 года назад
GM still has that to this day in their vehicles and it's just as horrible as it was back in the day, I have it disabled on my 2017 Silverado and it's much better without this crap, just like it is in a Honda
@johnpavon799
@johnpavon799 7 месяцев назад
I have a 2009 Honda Odessey the problem is the Left bank acts as a compressor no spark or valve action, they should have added a compression release.
@adamUDavies
@adamUDavies 3 года назад
I have installed the new s-vcm on both of my Honda 3.5 So far no oil consumption anymore 👍
@bwdowling
@bwdowling 3 года назад
What years are they?
@bobcajunwon9552
@bobcajunwon9552 4 года назад
Considering for a 2013 Accord. Wouldn't it be simpler to have the VCM feature turned off by tuning the PCM computer? I had this done for a GM V8 to prevent V4 (DOD) mode.
@andrewwang3900
@andrewwang3900 4 года назад
I did not follow the development process of the VCM muzzler or know why it could not be controlled by the PCM. I just bought it, and enjoy the fruits of their hard work.
@henrylee2964
@henrylee2964 3 года назад
Thanks' Andrew.. I wish i slaw your video sooner.. I have a 2005 odyssey; 123K miles. It has premature oil burning issue no cylinder 1; 2; 3. 2 engine mounts failures and spark plug fouling. Where can is purchase the VCM muzzler II? Please let me know. I want to extend the life of my engine..
@andrewwang3900
@andrewwang3900 3 года назад
www.odyclub.com/threads/vcm-a-better-way-to-disable.234113/. Also check to make sure your engine has VCM. Back then IIRC, only the higher trim models have them.
@3henry214
@3henry214 Год назад
I was completely unaware of my 2013 V6 Accord having VCM until it developed a bad vibration at 84,000 miles, and car would literally growl at me when sitting and idling at a stop light. The diagnosis was that the active engine mounts on it were shot and needed replacement, which is quite expensive. These active engine mounts are electrically adjusted by the computer to counteract the increased (unbalanced) engine vibration that occurs when the cylinders deactivate. Coupled with the known spark fouling and oil consumption issues, it was a no brainier for me to disable the VCM in my 2023 Ridgeline. I'll gladly trade a few less mpg's for increased reliability.
@JonAPOListudyo
@JonAPOListudyo 3 года назад
Hello! Thanks for this post. Where can I get one of these muzzlers? Do you know if there are newer versions out there or different brands that are street legal and okay to leave on for smog checks? I live in california. Thanks in advance 🙏
@andrewwang3900
@andrewwang3900 3 года назад
You can get them by contacting the person (Verbatim) that made it www.odyclub.com/threads/vcm-a-better-way-to-disable.234113/ There are a few different versions out there now. But I have no experience with it.
@rocket2811
@rocket2811 2 года назад
Latest VCM-tuner 2 is made compliant for California
@Vic_SF415
@Vic_SF415 3 года назад
Do you have a link on where to buy for my 2011 Honda Odyssey? Would greatly appreciate.
@adamUDavies
@adamUDavies 3 года назад
I installed the new s-vcm on both of my Honda 3.5 So far they work great , no more oil consumption. Takes less than 10min to install. Goggle s-vcm for Honda 3.5 Under $100
@Highsteel21
@Highsteel21 2 года назад
My van has white smoke and rough idol. Now it hardly runs. The VCM light came on with a triangle next to it. It’s the head gasket blown or can I install the muzzled and will it run again?
@andrewwang3900
@andrewwang3900 2 года назад
Perhaps a mechanic should take a look. I don't think the VCM Muzzler will help at this point.
@kieferonline
@kieferonline Год назад
Great video. Question: After installing the VCM Muzzler, you experienced no more spark plug fouling, right? More general question: Im curious about the spark plug fouling. They seem like they're easy to change oneself--could that be cheaper than all the extra gas used when using the Muzzler?
@andrewwang3900
@andrewwang3900 Год назад
No, not exactly. I did not have the VCM Muzzler on both 09 Odyssey and 10 Accord (V6) and both experienced the same foul spark plugs and check engine light. The VCM Muzzler is on my 2014 Odyssey since new,so no foul spark plugs, oil consumption, check engine light, vibration, or other issues. Currently at 121k+ miles. I did change out the spark plugs (at 100k miles) because of maintenance. Could you just change out the plugs at, let’s say 50-60k miles? Yes, you would avoid the fouling plugs, but may still experience the other issues cause by the VCM.
@_RedsTech_
@_RedsTech_ 3 года назад
My 06 Honda Accord V6 doesn't have an ECO light. Plus I did not see a VCMuzzler compatible with my make/model/year. Does that mean my car is not equipped with VCM?
@ryansmyly658
@ryansmyly658 3 года назад
Yours doesn't have VCM. VCM is used in 2008-2017 accord and 2005-2007 accord hybrid.
@jeromecabang977
@jeromecabang977 4 года назад
Hello, before i ordered, quick question is it possible to foul any spark plugs?
@andrewwang3900
@andrewwang3900 4 года назад
It would be the other way around, that it would prevent the plugs from fouling. If your plug are old/used, you may want to change them for a "fresh start."
@gregorymcdaniel2249
@gregorymcdaniel2249 2 года назад
Where can I buy this product for my 2013 Pilot???
@DarrenJWPeng
@DarrenJWPeng 3 года назад
Hi andrew, is the vcm muzzler safe for long distance driving? I travel from Sf to LA about 800-900miles round trip one or twice a month. Thanks for the video. 2012 Honda Odyssey with only 37k miles
@andrewwang3900
@andrewwang3900 3 года назад
Yes, most of my road trips are 800+ miles one way. No issue. You will loose a few mpg because all 6 cylinders are on all the time.
@freedompioneer4311
@freedompioneer4311 2 года назад
The VCM was designed exactly for long distance driving to save gas mileage so why do you consider this modification?? Curious 🤔
@davidderfus3462
@davidderfus3462 3 года назад
I think Honda’s are just about the most moded cars in the country, just look at all the tuners for Accord, Civic. I’m pretty sure they have seen EVERYTHING, and this device is no secret to Them. I think I am going to give it a try.
@troynguyen319
@troynguyen319 Год назад
After the dealer wanted to replace my piston rings (15 Odyssey) I started researching and found that possible the VCM has caused this. I plan on adding the VCM muzzler but is it too late and too much damage has already been done to the engine?
@andrewwang3900
@andrewwang3900 Год назад
The damage has been done. Your best bet may be to install the VCM Muzzler after you get the ring issue fixed. Depending on your mileage, you may want to change the spark plus too. Sorry to read that the damage had already occurred.
@travelinben1966
@travelinben1966 2 года назад
I’m getting a 22 Ridgeline, and I don’t know if it has VCM or not.If it does, there’s nothing I can do until the warranty is up.At that point,I’ll consider a device like this.Thank you.
@andrewwang3900
@andrewwang3900 2 года назад
2022 Ridgelines have the same J35 V6 with VCM. It would be your decision if you wish to disable the VCM or not, from the start, when the vehicle is new. VCM issues can pop up around 60k miles, like it did for me, when the engine warranty about to end.
@josegonzales815
@josegonzales815 2 года назад
I get my 09 pilot from the Honda dealer shop tomorrow morning. 4K worth of repairs. Luckily warranty I bought with it is going to cover it! I’m just out $100 deductible and plugs. Car was about dead!Dealer said 4 of my piston rings were faulty. Went through two sets of plugs. Prior. An egr valve. An alternator. Consuming 1qt of oil every 2.5 weeks! I was livid! Can’t wait to get this muzzler.
@andrewwang3900
@andrewwang3900 2 года назад
Good time to add a vcm muzzler after they fixed everything.
@josegonzales815
@josegonzales815 2 года назад
@@andrewwang3900 yes I agree! Love this pilot a lot! I want it for my kids. I have a 05 accord lx with 300k on it. Love my Honda’s.
@josegonzales815
@josegonzales815 2 года назад
Drove the 09 pilot for about a week everything seem to run a good until I guess five or six days later had a check engine light come on dealership receipt said they replace piston rings on cylinders one through four. And the AutoZone code reader says I have a misfire on cylinder two and three. What a joy!
@andrewwang3900
@andrewwang3900 2 года назад
Sorry to hear this.
@josegonzales815
@josegonzales815 2 года назад
@@andrewwang3900 got the car back they said they forgot to do the valve adjustment…..? Idk…. Now the wife says yesterday the car is acting weird and making noise… do you have the link for the muzzler? I ordered one but still haven’t received a tracking number! I’m freaking out a bit.
@acura1384ify
@acura1384ify Год назад
Hey sr ..can you explain how to use the resistor colors? Or why diferent resistor colors .cus some times eco light turns on ..and i like to see if changin the color resistor eco light goes away..here in nc climate is 90f degres..is sumer season..
@andrewwang3900
@andrewwang3900 Год назад
I only have two, blue and red, I use the blue only and it has work for me. My eco light does come on occasionally, then quickly goes away as the vehicle start moving. IMO, it’s ok for the VCM to kick in once in a while, to keep parts lubricated. You can change the resistor and try it if you wish. Now, there are 5 resistors I think. The seller can probably explain it better the difference between them.
@stanflahaut1893
@stanflahaut1893 2 года назад
Does the VCM Muzzler II allow for full coolant temperature monitoring?
@andrewwang3900
@andrewwang3900 2 года назад
I don't know. Perhaps the answer is listed here www.odyclub.com/threads/vcm-a-better-way-to-disable.234113/ or search the discussion forum.
@scottjones9747
@scottjones9747 3 года назад
Andrew, just watched your video after installing my VCM Advanced II. I have a 2014 Odyssey EX and the transmission juddering was driving me nuts (main reason for the VCM install). Have you noticed a decrease or increase in the juddering during your 75K miles? I have had Honda flash the transmission with the latest update and have completed a transmission fluid change. Those helped for about 20K but now it is coming back. Maybe I just need to change the fluid every 20K. Interested in your experience. Thank you for your time. Scott
@andrewwang3900
@andrewwang3900 3 года назад
I did not have any transmission issue before and after the installation of the VCM Muzzler. Shifts felt the same over the years. So my experience is different than yours. Honda automatic transmissions have never been the strong point historically being that it's a non planetary gear design. You may want to try 3X ATF drain & fill and see if that solve your juddering issue. Honda's TSB does call for 3X when there is a transmission issue. 3X should replace almost 100% of the ATF.
@Sergei__v
@Sergei__v 3 года назад
Dirty spark plugs affect transmission shifts a lot. As soon as I replaced the spark plugs at 102 000, the shifts became a lot smoother and more instant. VCM tuner can do the same after you burn off all the oil from the dirty spark plugs. Changing ATF at 40K is a highly recommended as well.
@geraldo9965
@geraldo9965 5 месяцев назад
I have used the transmission additive, LubeGard, red bottle, as directed, for over 20 years in my Honda transmissions, a 2001, now with 200k miles, a 2006, now with 240K miles, and a 2014 with 87K miles, with NO operational problems, even on the notoriously unreliable 4-speed in the 2001. LubeGard also has a shudder-fix product, for stubborn symptoms. I have also had the first generation Muzzler on the 2014 since nearly new, with no operational troubles. My actual mpg figures are the same as stock, by actual calculation, not by the always optimistic computer readings. Try all this! You will like the results👍👍👍!
@ahyungrocks5509
@ahyungrocks5509 9 месяцев назад
Hi Andrew, The VCM Muzzler II is not available due to IC shortage. Looks like it won't be available until possibly til the end of the year or sometimes next year. However the Muzzler I is currently available. Do you recommend getting the version I? (believe they are $90)
@andrewwang3900
@andrewwang3900 9 месяцев назад
I have no experience with the “original” version.
@alexpaul6383
@alexpaul6383 4 года назад
I have a 2015 Accord coupe v6 automatic (40k miles). I’ve been experiencing a vibration sound that only occurs between 2k-3k rpm when the engine is up to temp, light throttle is applied and kept constant , and I’m in 3rd gear (or 4th, 5th, 6th but never in 1st or 2nd). However it goes away the throttle is applied harder. When I do this it makes a medium to low pop sound and everything is normal again. This vibration never occurs during harder acceleration. Could this VCM be my problem by causing vibration on my engine mounts due to engine imbalance from deactivated cylinders?
@jimbark4642
@jimbark4642 3 года назад
Yes
@wiimaster2847
@wiimaster2847 2 года назад
Do you see the ECO light turn on when this is happening?
@alexpaul6383
@alexpaul6383 2 года назад
@@wiimaster2847 No. I've had the vcm muzzler on for about a year now. works fine for normal driving. If I've been pushing the car and its hot, vcm will start to kick on again.
@wiimaster2847
@wiimaster2847 2 года назад
@@alexpaul6383 that's normal for the passive muzzlers. If you want it always off get the VCMTuner II
@iMay_562
@iMay_562 Год назад
question, I just replaced the coils and plugs a month ago. Engine light came back. If i install a vcm muzzler will it help me with this issue or is it too late?
@andrewwang3900
@andrewwang3900 Год назад
A check engine light could be many things. Use a scanner tool to read the code to see why it’s coming on. VCM Muzzler will not turn off the check engine light. It can prevent it from getting worst, if other damage had already happened.
@andrewdimas_
@andrewdimas_ Год назад
How late is too late to install the SVCM/muzzler? My Pilot is at 94,500mi, gave me code P0303 two days ago. Changed cylinder 3 plug and coil, now it’s fine again.
@andrewwang3900
@andrewwang3900 Год назад
The fact that you had to replace 3 plugs may mean some damage has been done. I would replace the other 3 plugs too so you have a fresh start sort of speaking. I would still get a VCM Muzzzler to prevent anymore damage.
@dmpdesign
@dmpdesign 3 года назад
Thanks for the vid, installing one of these on my pilot to remove the shudder at 40mph, its very annoying and has to be hard on the motor and transmission as it really has a hard time finding the right gear with light throttle etc around town.
@Consolethumbs
@Consolethumbs 3 года назад
Yeah I just ordered a VCM Tuner advanced model for that exact reason also I would much rather have a V6 engine all the time instead of 4 cylinder or even 3.
@dmpdesign
@dmpdesign 3 года назад
@@Consolethumbs Unfortunately this did not resolve my issue, it seems it may be some sort of transmission problem/computer issue. The VCMuzzler is great, it did exactly what it was sold to do, so I recommend getting it, just wish I could understand why my car upshifts early to fourth gear and causes the severe bog/vibration on the transmission in the front. Oh well. I will say this, gas mileage is pure trash (before and after the VCMuzzler) - around 15mpg average and maybe 20ish on the highway now instead of 23-24. Still worth it.
@yoels.
@yoels. 2 года назад
@@dmpdesign honda has a bulletin addreing this issue "light shudder at low RPM at around 25-35 mph" im a used car dealer and 5 ot of 10 hondas I buy has that issue, the remedy that Honda recommends is a 3x transmission flush and reprogram they charge $450 but any decent transmission shop can do it for $250-300 as long as the transmission shifts right all other times that will most likely fix your problem. Good luck
@reyperez3424
@reyperez3424 2 года назад
@@yoels. I think you are correct Something like this started happening to my v6 2014 Accord at 30k miles and got the transmission fluid changed and it was back to smooth as new
@justinyelverton
@justinyelverton 2 года назад
@@dmpdesign may also be a torque converter issue. My 06 crv that I had shuddered in low rpm, and that was the problem.
@fzr1000981
@fzr1000981 Год назад
S-VCM is a superior product
@andrewwang3900
@andrewwang3900 Год назад
No experience with that product.
@romeoroze2357
@romeoroze2357 4 года назад
Any over heating issues or bad engine temp reading ? Just asking if it affects the temp gauge or cooling fan operation? Thing to buy a crosstour .
@andrewwang3900
@andrewwang3900 4 года назад
No issues with bad temp readings or over heating, and I've driven in 117 degrees in the desert and 15 degrees in the frozen cold, no issues. How VCM Muzzler works is by "fooling" the engine in thinking it's about 7 degrees cooler, therefore the VCM does not kick in (because it has not reached optimal temp). So your real engine temp is a bit off. It does not affect cooling or fan operations. I've also change my coolant (yes, it was a bit early) and the color and clarity looks just like new. Color is not an indication, but I'll say it's not stressing out the coolant.
@romeoroze2357
@romeoroze2357 4 года назад
@@andrewwang3900 thanks so much for your response. I really appreciate it. Test driving to buy a crosstour awd. Seems like a simple fix.
@johnmoreno4239
@johnmoreno4239 4 года назад
Romeo Roze hey did you install a muzzle and did you see any issues ?
@vikingrobot4179
@vikingrobot4179 Год назад
Will the 2007+ work with a 2008 Odyssey touring model? It seems the touring model uses alot of different parts than the non touring models. I rarely take my odyssey to the dealer . The last time it was there they tried to sell me a $4000 catalytic converter In which I replaced for $200 and a new 02 sensor for $100.00. I also replaced a bad coil pack in which they could not find out what was causing the misfire on cyl #5. I had a po305 code and the coil was intermittently bad. I thought Mercedes dealerships were rip offs…..Honda sucks.
@andrewwang3900
@andrewwang3900 Год назад
Back then the J35 V6 for the Touring was label J35A7 with VCM, where as the lower trim models (LX, EX) non VCM engines were J35A6. So they will have some different parts. Yes, auto repairs are expensive.
@TruthSpeaker1001
@TruthSpeaker1001 2 года назад
My 2011 Odessy started acting sluggish while I was doing 65mph, then serious vibrations, then it felt like the engine blew out and the check engine light came on. I pulled over and turned off the engine waited 5 minutes and restarted the van, it drove good for a few mins and the vibrations returned. Returned home saw the code researched it, replaced all spark plugs. Plugs 3 and 4 were extremely fouled and a small piece of the ceramic on plug 3 had broken off. I called Honda. They stated although the car only had 65k miles it was 10 years old and was not covered under the lawsuits extended warranty. I purchased the VCM Tuner and so far it’s been 1 year and the van drives great. I needed to buy a vehicle to replace my 2004 Altima SE in December of 2021. purchased a Toyota Highlander Limited the week before Christmas. While deciding on my purchase a friend mentioned how great the Honda Pilot was. I explained that my first Honda gave me VCM problems at only 65k and Honda customer support did not offer any assistance at all and I would most likely never buy another Honda. I hope Honda sees this post. Any Honda purchasers need to install a VCM Muzzler/Tuner etc. ASAP!
@andrewwang3900
@andrewwang3900 2 года назад
Agree. If it’s the J35 V6 (with automatic transmission) owners should disable the VCM.
@ashleyredden2201
@ashleyredden2201 2 года назад
What code was it mine doing same thing and got p3400 code
@BishopsPlace
@BishopsPlace 2 года назад
@@ashleyredden2201 it may have been PO303 or even 2 codes. Once you remove the spark plug(s) you’ll most likely see that they’re fouled.
@ashleyredden2201
@ashleyredden2201 2 года назад
@@BishopsPlace they are like a month ild but i dont guess that means anything
@gs1100ed
@gs1100ed Год назад
What year did Honda introduce VCM? Does my 2003 Odyssey have it?
@andrewwang3900
@andrewwang3900 Год назад
VCM started model year 2005+. I made the blanket statement of “all” to make it easier owners to identify it. That “newer” V6 Hondas have this this type of engine. Thinking about it again, a 20+ year old Honda is still common.
@user-xk9ni7ui9h
@user-xk9ni7ui9h 9 месяцев назад
I would like to know where you got the muzzler at I just bought a 2012 Honda pilot I would like to get one to disable the VCM
@andrewwang3900
@andrewwang3900 9 месяцев назад
www.odyclub.com/threads/vcmuzzler-ii-for-disabling-vcm-faqs.268778/
@luicaba4025
@luicaba4025 4 года назад
Wear can i buy this? My 08 accord acts very weird when switching gears on eco mode but when its not on its perfectly fine!
@andrewwang3900
@andrewwang3900 4 года назад
Follow this thread. www.odyclub.com/threads/vcmuzzler-ii-for-disabling-vcm-faqs.268778/
@freedompioneer4311
@freedompioneer4311 2 года назад
Like a judder feeling on the freeway going into or out of 5 gear??
@russellstone9056
@russellstone9056 4 года назад
Thank you for your video. Please can you tell me which vcm muzzle did you use? I noticed there are ones for sale where you have to change the resistor and there are others where you do not have to. Thank you
@andrewwang3900
@andrewwang3900 4 года назад
I have the VCM Muzzler 2, so it is the one where you can change the resistor. At the time, mine only had a choice of (standard) blue and red. I believe now the Seller offer three, blue, yellow and red. However, I never felt a need to change it, and has been using only the blue IMO, I don't mind the VCM coming on once in a long while, if I'm stuck in traffic during the bloody hot summers. The blue one works for me for all seasons.
@russellstone9056
@russellstone9056 4 года назад
@@andrewwang3900 Thank you so much for the info. You were very helpful my friend.
@scottrinehart8056
@scottrinehart8056 4 года назад
I get an intermittent vibration between 28-30mph. Has stumped the dealership and even replaced the transmission (thankfully under Extended warranty). It doesn’t do it all the time, but consistent enough to be annoying. Does this VCM muzzler seem to be a fix for what I’m experiencing?
@andrewwang3900
@andrewwang3900 4 года назад
Hard to say. Wish you the best.
@pigyear88
@pigyear88 3 года назад
@@scottrinehart8056 I have same issue on 2014 Odyssey, from what I read it maybe the torque converter. There maybe service bulletin to flush tranny fluid. I baby the van but still had the issue shortly after the warranty period. If I accelerated faster then sometimes the vibration isn't there.
@jasonmejia5505
@jasonmejia5505 4 года назад
Part # Where to buy this cant see to find it for my 08 Accord
@andrewwang3900
@andrewwang3900 4 года назад
www.odyclub.com/threads/vcm-a-better-way-to-disable.234113/
@davidprice2861
@davidprice2861 3 года назад
It’s just a resistor in series with coolant temp sensor, it tells ecu that normal temperature has not been reached. Cost ? 50 cents plus a bit of shrink tube. Ps 84 Ohms is what I’ve heard for the resistor.
@andrewwang3900
@andrewwang3900 3 года назад
That pretty much sums up what it is.
@DarrenJWPeng
@DarrenJWPeng 3 года назад
Hi andrew, I installed the VCM muzzler last night and test drove the car for the whole day with around 80-95 degrees outside. At the beginning everything looks good no ECO lights on but after I keep driving it for like few hrs then the ECO come back on and off few time around 70-80 miles. Also, come back on and off few time around 20-30 miles. Have you ever experience something like this? Thanks
@andrewwang3900
@andrewwang3900 3 года назад
To clarify, do you mean "miles" as in distance or miles per hour as in speed? Also if you just got the VCM Muzzler II, I believe he include 3 color resisters now. Which color are use using? When I got mine, it only came with two, red and blue. I'm using the blue. I'm at over 90k miles now. If there's one thing I would add as an update is that the ECO light does come on more often now (during the summer this year). when I drive with frequent stops, or after a long traffic light. But ECO goes away once the Ody start moving at speed (cooling off). I don't know if my thermostat is sticking a bit as the vehicle is old(er).
@DarrenJWPeng
@DarrenJWPeng 3 года назад
@@andrewwang3900Hi andrew, miles per hr as in “speed”. I installed with the blue one that already attached when it came. Also, I’m having a 800+ road trip today with vcm muzzler on the first time. I’ll let you know how it turns out. Hopefully car don’t broke down half way. (Knock on wood)
@andrewwang3900
@andrewwang3900 3 года назад
Going back to your question, when cruising 70-80mph, it never comes on in all weather conditions. At 20-30mph, the ECO light comes 1-3 seconds sometimes, during the hot summers, stuck in traffic, etc, then goes away once the car starts moving at speed and "cool down" a bit.
@freedompioneer4311
@freedompioneer4311 2 года назад
@@andrewwang3900 wait What? My eco light comes on even while driving 80mph ... My 08 accord EX-L V6 dosent seem to have any of these issues but I think my car is in need of spark plugs because I believe even for a V6 that I should be getting a little better gas mileage...not sure I assumed I may have a "transmission judder feeling" but is it just the VCM doing things because I feel this even when the eco light isn't turning off or on..mainly on the freeway it's a slight jerk feeling going into 5 gear I think 🤔🤔
@alejandroayala9500
@alejandroayala9500 3 года назад
So it consumes more gasoline if I install the VCM muzzler?
@andrewwang3900
@andrewwang3900 3 года назад
Yes, because your V6 will be running on all 6 cylinders, all the time.
@ronsag65
@ronsag65 Год назад
Good video, i have 2012 Oddysey, who sell VCM muzzler.
@simbarb2
@simbarb2 9 месяцев назад
How do you turn off Eco mode on a Honda Odyssey 2014 touring thank you
@andrewwang3900
@andrewwang3900 9 месяцев назад
You can’t unfortunately. The VCM Muzzler does turn it off, by default. Meaning if VCM is off, you are not in ECO mode.
@robhoffman1244
@robhoffman1244 2 года назад
Where can I order one and the part # would be helpful for a 2012 Honda Odyssey..thank you
@andrewwang3900
@andrewwang3900 2 года назад
www.odyclub.com/threads/vcmuzzler-ii-for-disabling-vcm-faqs.268778/
@kingdomairjmm2911
@kingdomairjmm2911 20 дней назад
Andrew send me the link to purchase the VCM Muzzler 2 TY
@andrewwang3900
@andrewwang3900 18 дней назад
www.odyclub.com/threads/vcmuzzler-ii-for-disabling-vcm-faqs.268778/
@TodaLaCulpaEsmiaLOL
@TodaLaCulpaEsmiaLOL 2 года назад
Where to buy? Please add a link. I have a 2018 Ridgeline RTL-E with 28K miles
@andrewwang3900
@andrewwang3900 2 года назад
www.odyclub.com/threads/vcmuzzler-ii-for-disabling-vcm-faqs.268778/
@fortunatedad7695
@fortunatedad7695 4 года назад
I'm doing an experiment now. I've had the muzzler installed for 6 months now and am going to see what the gas mileage is like. I installed brand new spark plugs before installing the muzzled as well. Because it's been 6 months I forgot how the van ran without the muzzler on and I must say I really don't notice the vcm kicking in but notice the gas mileage go down (at least 2L/100k). So far my impression is just change your spark plugs every 100k and the vcm will not cause issues. I have a 2012 Odyssey with 135k on it (brand new spark plugs went in about 5k ago). Will see if the vcm causes pre mature wear on the spark plugs or not.
@csx9189
@csx9189 4 года назад
Great, keep me updated as I’m soon planning to buy a 2012 pilot
@fortunatedad7695
@fortunatedad7695 4 года назад
@@csx9189 I went back to the muzzler lol. Like I said before, I forgot how the vehicle ran without the muzzler but now I remember why I bought it. It didn't run bad until the van ran for awhile then on low speeds I really feel the vibration and lack is power. Just came back from a vacation and the mileage isn't that much different to be honest. The weird thing is the mileage the computer says aren't even close. When it says 10L per 100k it's 11 or more. Not sure is that's what it would be with the vcm engaged or what? But I drove 750k and used 75L. That was combined city driving and hiway driving in the mountains.
@strangerland9791
@strangerland9791 3 года назад
@@fortunatedad7695 Issue isn't JUST spark plugs though. VCM causes excessive strain on motor mounts as well and the VCM motor mounts are VERY expensive. (upwards of $1k each and you need 2, front and back ones) Spark plugs get fouled because when VCM kicks in all 4 valves stays shut creating a vacuum condition in the combustion chamber sucking in the oil through the piston rings eventually causing the rings to go bad as well requiring rebuild for a lot of $$
@freedompioneer4311
@freedompioneer4311 2 года назад
@@strangerland9791 these issues occur in what model at How many miles? My 08 accord EX-L V6 dosent seem to have any of these issues but I think my car is in need of spark plugs because I believe even for a V6 that I should be getting a little better gas mileage... I assumed I may have a "transmission judder feeling" but is it just the VCM doing things because I feel this even when the eco light isn't turning off or on..mainly on the freeway it's a slight jerk feeling going into 5 gear I think 🤔🤔
@libbykincanon2308
@libbykincanon2308 11 месяцев назад
Which one should we buy? They one I got triggers the overheat sensor. I have 2016 odyssey. 137k The tuner I got worked great for a year. Thanks for suggestion.
@andrewwang3900
@andrewwang3900 11 месяцев назад
I only have experience with VCM Muzzler II. No experience with the other devices.
@libbykincanon2308
@libbykincanon2308 11 месяцев назад
@@andrewwang3900 right which one there are several on sale. Thank you
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