Had a bunch of questions regarding roaming / portability. From the FAQ it looks as though Verizon locks the service to your address and does not allow you to roam around with the gateway like you would with a hotspot.
i hope they add roaming/portability soon. i take my t mobile gateway everywhere up and down the east coat. i connect it to dc in the car or connect it to an ac power-station. works great 90% of the time. i average about 200mbps down and like 150mbps up. been about 1 year hasn't failed me yet. just want to add some redundancy since i work and travel.
It shouldn’t be locked to an address. I relocated from Vegas to central FL about 6 months ago and have been using my same equipment and setup without any problems.
I have the Verizon home internet as a backup to my Spectrum cable internet here in Bradenton, FL. Verizon launched it here in December 2022. I get 300 Mbps Download and 20 upload. At first it only worked in my master bedroom on 5g. Verizon updated a ton of towers around me and now I pickup C-Band throughout my condo on my iPhone 14 Pro. I moved the unit to the guest room which has my desk and it is connected via Ethernet to my Synolgy multi lan router. I can set it as primary or secondary. I get 500 mbps download and 20 up on my Spectrum cable modem. As a Verizon wireless customer this is a bargain for a backup internet connection. Verizon had anther gateway router that they offer to those who are close to a MM Wave tower.
It's a great service if you're not an online gamer. At least this gives us a tool to get forever promo rates on cable or fiber. Just cancel your wireline service for a month and use 5G home internet while you wait to be considered a new customer. This is truly disruptive to the cable cartel.
I live in NC, and Verizon is really marketing heavily here in the Charlotte area with the Home 5G. Right now, I'm getting about 320 down on my iPhone 13 Pro Max. That said, for now, I'm gonna stay with Spectrum. It's a tad faster, and currently isn't "broken" - I don't have many issues with it. Thanks for the take, Lon! I'll keep this handy if and when I start wanting to switch.
I have had this for 1 month now so far. It works just fine. Is it as fast as my old cable plan... no. But it gets the job. Done really well. The price is fine compared to the old cable plan.
I have T-Mobile 5G Home Internet, and they slotted me into the system on a Small Business plan, and I'm getting much faster speeds than my old cable plan from BreezeLine cable($93 a month for 160Mbps/25Mbps after taxes, and BS fees), and I'm pulling down 600Mbps+/150Mbps+ according to Open Speed Test and ping times of 22ms - 40ms, so I'll be sticking with it for $50 a month, as it's more than enough for daily internet usage, and casual gaming.
The gateway is capped depending on the plan, the basic plan is capped at ~300Mbps down and 20Mbps up, while the plus plan is uncapped and will get whatever a phone will get. I currently use the basic plan which is $50 per month if you do not have a verizon plan. While the Verizon gateway lacks a proper transparent bridge mode, it does offer an IP passthrough mode which avoids the double NAT that the DMZ setting would cause.
I have had this service for 6 months and it's been the best internet I've ever had. I get ping times less than 20 ms regularly with loaded pings under 100 regularly. This service is NOT deprioritized. This is commonly confused with the tmobile 5g internet which IS deprioritized to the bottom. Verizon manages their network much differently than tmobile. There are tests out there that support this. Also, with Verizon I get a public (although dynamic) IP, but it stays the same as long as I don't reboot the cube.
We were one of the first Verizon 5G business internet customers in FL. We hooked it up to the surveillance system at one of our shopping centers where we actually have a Verizon mmWave tower in our parking lot! The speeds were insane BUT! it was terribly unreliable. After a storm I frequently had to power cycle the system. In a few instances the tower would be down for a few days at a time. Overall I cannot recommend VZ's 5G business internet.
For prioritization, Verizon has 2 prioritization tiers: QCI 9 (low tier), and 8 (high tier). The 5G Ultrawide network (aka mid-/high-band 5G) has only one prioritization. 5G HI runs at the same priority as other devices on the UW network. The speeds are capped to 300 Mbps as per the plan on the 5G HI device, which is not the same as prioritization. Prioritization is more related to latency and buffer bloat. Also, if your mobile plan has support for 5G UW, then your prioritization when on the UW network won't change based on how much data you use. When on regular low-band 5G (5G Nationwide) and LTE, your "Premium Data" allotment will count and prioritization is a factor.
I wonder what his unit was connecting with - the ping rates were swinging wildly no matter what I tested indicating that there was some prioritization going on.
@@LonSeidman That's not necessarily prioritization. It could be the firmware or hardware of the unit, cells, etc. There's a lot of factors that play into it. Serious prioritization looks like a few hundred ms of ping & bufferbloat when having full bars and little interference.
I have to say, coming from xfinity. Honestly I can not tell the difference unless I run a speed test. Xfinity is faster, but in everyday life I could not tell the difference. Would recommend.
I have been using similar kind of service in my home country and had I actually been kinda wondering whether other countries have the same service and whether they deliver better service than the one I'm receiving right now. Glad to know we both have greedy mobile operators.
I have the home internet and have issues with being low priority. The nearest cell tower is about half a mile away but is right next to the interstate. On normal days and times the speed is very good,however on the weekends especially on Sunday afternoons and evenings traffic is at a standstill. This is i95 in Virginia. When this happens my internet slows down to the point of being virtually non existent. I understand the need to prioritize services for the people who are traveling but for the home internet to be worthwhile they need to build more cellular towers. Just my experience.
Yeah i notice that too, i am pretty close to the tower in my area, the problem is there is only one that i am in range of, when the tower is open it works great but soon as it starts to pick up some traffic its a dramatic shift like
Hey lon I use the metro by T-Mobile at home internet modem here in my camper van I run it on a 12 v to USB C PD car adapter cause the socket is wired to my 600 ah lithium battery setup in my camper van I see about 200 to 500 Mbps average down and 120 to 200 up
We use ours for gaming, it does fine. I'm kind of like your friend and the tower is a football kick away. I went with the plus plan it usually runs about 500ish down 25ish up. We had spectrum that was 84.99 a month for 300down/10up and had signal issues with them since we moved here (2018) but sadly only other option was AT&t with 25down 5up until recently with the 5g Verizon. It's worth it's weight in gold for us considering the options we have and the pricing. On that note the At&t 25down is only 29.99 but 25 down for a family of 3 is like everyone piling in a clown car.
I noticed in my whole area. I have the T-Mobile home Internet. Ping times on phone or home gateway is 5,ms or less. Now RU-vid videos start immediately with no delay. I had to make changes in the wifi settings. 2.4 on channel 6 and 5 on channel 48. The rest the router takes care of. You want the second wifi 5 channel to be on 161. I do have wifi 6 on it also.
I'm hoping to get Verizon home 5G soon. Currently on T-Mobile, but am having headaches due to their use of a CGNAT. According to the Verizon coverage map, my area is completely covered in C Band spectrum now so I'm hopeful they'll be offering home internet soon on my side of town.
some isp offers 5g as backup connexion when you r main one is issued. it might be an expensive option but very useful when you're a freelancer or a youtuber.
Here in Illinois it runs fine. But I notice one thing I might bring to my fans. Sometimes I have to turn it on and off because my devices disconnect during the morning? Does anyone here know why that would be?
I tried so hard with 5G here in the UK. using a Zyxel 5G router with external antenna. I also found that a router was slower than both my 5g phones. problems with contention though and also frequent IP switching made me give up and switch to Starlink
Hi from Michigan - Good stuff - I have not yet cut the cord to my ComCast internet but I did cut the cord to their cable TV services. I use DirectTV Stream on 3 TVs with their refurbished boxes. All is well. My phones are with Verizon - Great video - Thanks 🚂
My mother occasionally forgets that we've had this conversation lol. She periodically asks me about the T-Mobile home internet service; and I have to remind her that we live in the woods in a small south Jersey town that NO cell companies ever heard of which is why we need Wi-Fi calling lol.
I've been looking into this for my parents. They live in Phoenix and use CenturyLink. But because of where they live their max speeds are 40mbps and they have frequent connectivity issues due to the age of the wiring going to their neighborhood. Price wise, it looks like it'd be $5 more a month to switch.
Has anyone hacked, like they did for the T-Mobile 5G similar unit, allowing for an external antenna. I live out in the woods too and even though I am at a high altitude, T-Mobile and Verizon only come in at about 2-3bars on cell phones. I would also think this type of antenna would be more reliable than wired internet and also during power outage but adding a battery backup. I have use my cell phone as a hotspot when I lose internet or have a power outage. I hope the competition crushes the local cable companies.
We switched back in late May and it has been a struggle. Live in the Augusta GA area and a tower is within a half mile. ( we can see it from my son's bedroom window ) A lot of lag with gaming and we pay for the plus plan which is suppose to be between 300 to 1Gig speeds. We were told we would be lucky to get 300 down, we get 150 to 180 down on average, sometimes a lot slower. On our second gateway, the first one shut down and died in about two months. ( can't swap out at a store, they have to send you one in the mail, up to three days to get ) This one hasn't been any better, three to four times a week resetting it because its locking up. Maybe it's this area, but we are close to cancelling it and going to another provider.
Thanks Lon. Great video. I convinced my Dad to try out Verizon 5G home internet, and finally stop doing business with the awful and overpriced Cox Communications.
I've been using Verizon 5G Home Internet for about 6 months now. I have it's Wifi shut off and it is "pass-through" mode so my main firewall gets the public IP - no double NAT'ing. It needs a kick in the pants (reboot) once every few weeks it seems. Performance is in the same ballpark as what Lon's friend is seeing - i think they cap the serivce around 320Mb/25Mb (speculation on my part).
That's why I went with T-Mobile, as they don't cap your speed unless the tower is super full, and without any Gateway mods, and the tower being about 3 miles or so from me I'm pulling over 600Mbps down on the high end with average of over 400Mbps.
Nice to see another option. My main question is portability. I live full time in an RV and tend to travel weekly. T-Mobile home internet has been my primary service for 1.5years and works great in most of the places we stay. It’s silly that they do these home internet devices but don’t do a reasonable hotspot plan. I’ll have to look more into this as I’ve been using Visible, a Verizon MVNO, as a backup service.
I have T-Mo 5G home internet and they don't lock your max speed unless the towers are super full, and as of late on an open speed test I've had down speeds of over 600Mbps and over 150Mbps up for $50 a month, and If I switch my family plan to T-Mo it gets even cheaper, but I'm going to see if I can do it with Metro as their family plan is same price for 4 lines as Cricket Wireless with no speed cap, as Cricket caps us to 3Mbps/3Mbps of which we rarely see as of late.
Hulu Live just has issues period which is why I dumped them for RU-vid TV, and I have I have T-MO 5G Home Internet, and I'm about 3 1/2 hours from Atlanta which is where T-MO shows me being at by the IP address, but I was able to go into the RU-vid TV account on my Android phone, and reset my home area back to the Augusta market for my correct local channels, and so far it's been smooth sailing, but if I use something like the Fox Live, or Fox Sports app on my tablet, then it bumps me back to the Atlanta market with no way change it, but my Google Nest devices all correctly get my location when I ask it for things like the weather.
I had sprint then they merged with T Mobile. Really liked them. I was paying 141 a month for unlimited data calls and text. Kinda expensive. Paying 118 for comcast internet. Expensive as well. Just switched to Verizon iPhone 14promax and home internet bundle. We will see how I like their inter e service. If not I will just keep comcast. And return the home internet. Don’t have a contract with that part
Do you receive a public IP address with this service? My only concern is as the service grows, will Verizon oversell this service and allow the speeds to go down to a crawl as they did with their LTE service?
Unlike T-Mobile's 5G Home Internet product, Verizon's does give you a publicly routable IP address. The downside is that it is a dynamic public IP address and changes very frequently, as Lon noted in the video with the Hulu Live issues. As for the speed/deprioritization, I agree with you, and we will have to wait and see what happens down the road.
I have T-MO 5G Home Internet with the tower about 3 miles, or so from me, and even in bad rain, and thunder I've not noticed any change, but I live not had snow, ice, or hail here in my part of the south since I first got it back in Feb, but still cheaper, and faste for the money than any other service in my area.
Speeds seem great, especially compared to what AT&T offers in my area, which is DSL. Our house considered the switch being that we're cellular customers with Verizon, but the more I looked into it, I realized it would be a bad idea for myself, the primary user, a gamer and heavy internet user in my free time. We live in a relatively dense urban area not far from high traffic areas. I couldn't tell you how far away Verizon's nearest tower is to us, but knowing that internet users are bottom of the totem pole, well, that's just a no go for me. If I'm paying for service, I shouldn't be behind anyone in priority unless its emergency services. As another commenter stated, seems like a good option for a failover in case the primary connection has an issue. Other than that, Verizon 5G internet only seems to be a good for people in underserved areas with smaller populations.
Yeah these mobile internet providers work great when the stars align, but when things go bad, they go very bad. I tried out Tmobile since the tower is ~0.5 miles away from me, i have no idea where a verizon 5g tower is all i can locate using their map is a 4g tower but they said they were in my area so idk. When it works it works well, but as soon as there is a disruption i.e. bad weather or congestion its super bad. i was getting 1-5mb download for a day and a half after a brief storm came through and took something out. during normal rain the speeds get cut in half, which wouldnt be that big a deal but the main thing is latency goes up dramatically and that is the worse feeling of all since online gaming is unplayable, even normal browsing suffers.
I worked at Verizon Wireless when we started selling the old 4g iteration that looked like a grey bucket that had to be installed on the roof. That was such a nightmare. I'm far gone from being an employee but I am super skeptical.
Haha the cantenna. The 5G is much more reliable that the old 4G service, although I’ve never had it, but it’s self install and not and eyesore. Been using it for over a year and just got a second box for a second address
Verizon works better in New York right Like At&t and Cox in Florida? I Lived in Long Island NY Verizon and Optimum both work Great Love Optimum more...
Just ordered one of these hoping to break up with my spectrum service. They suck internet isnt very reliable already. I do gaming but i heard alot of gamers said it works decent.
T-Mobile 5G home internet does not support UPnP for Xbox Live. Most online games will still work but certain things like VoIP and match making could be affected.
I totally agree. I had tmobile, and it sucked for gaming on my Xbox and ps5. Always lagged and gave me issues. I game perfectly fine with no issues now since I switched the Verizon 5G home internet.
We had this for a few days, was promised an easy return if we didn't like it - what a nightmare! They setup my account incorrectly so when I called to cancel they wouldn't allow me and when I went to a store they told me to call. This would be more than fine if you are streaming or working from home occasionally but I can't recommend it since it took me a month to return the gateway and charged me for a month of not using it.
You can use it for media servers. Just keep in mind the upload speed and the bitrate of your media. If you're trying to play a 60 Mbps Bluray file when the max you get is 20 Mbps up, you're going to have to transcode. But most ISPs in the US seem to do about 5-35 Mbps up anyways, so 20 Mbps isn't bad per-se. But as for port forwarding, no issue with that. They don't restrict any ports and it's not a shared IP (no double-NAT / CGNAT).
Maybe for the speed, but when BreezeLine Cable wants to charge me nearly $131 a month before taxes, and fees for 1Gbit for fiber to node, then copper cable to the home(I was paying almost $93 a month for 160Mbps/25Mbps after fees, and taxes), Frontier Communications wants to charge me $78 a month for up to 24Mbps/1Mbps DSL calling it business class, I'll stick with T-Mobile 5G Home internet pulling down 600 Mbps+/150 Mbps+ using open speed test with ping times of 21ms - 40ms for $50 a month, and that's in a somewhat rural town here in S. Carolina, and I have a feeling if I did the Antenna mod to T-MO Gateway either sticking external antennas to my window, or outside on my house, I could hit 1Gbit or more as been reported by a fair number of people testing the service here on YT. So I'd say 5G home internet is a very viable option for many people like myself who had good signal, and are looking to save money, when the wired options in our areas are ripping us off!!
Can confirm this is not good for gaming, especially competitive/fps type games where latency matters. If you casual game where lag doesn't affect the gameplay you may be able to have a OK experience. Also run into problems when downloading or updating games on Steam where the game will download 99.9%, and will just refuse to finish the last 0.1%. Will time out multiple times or take days to finish downloading just a few megabytes (one game was literally just one megabyte to finish), but connect my phone on 4G and would complete in seconds no problem, so it is not a problem with Steam. Also happens sometimes with my Switch, but I PC game mostly so I don't notice it as often. PC is wired to router --> VZW gateway in bridge, plus gateway has good signal (-84 to -90dbm). Last issue I have is that if I max out the bandwidth (download) for too long, my service will cut out after a few minutes and I would have to restart the gateway to get back online. However if you plan on doing web browsing or video streaming you will have a good experience.
I would check the T-Mobile coverage maps, as It use to be total garbage in my area of S. Carolina for almost 2 decades, but now it's become one of the best, as I have their 5G home internet pulling down over 600Mbps with near wired ping times, while my Cricket Wireless service(AT&T) has gotten worse to the point I can barely make a 911 call some days, so I'm looking to move my 4 lines over to Metro for the same money on the TMo network, and I know some people in my town on Verizon towers, and it's okay for calls, and text, but data has been mostly a no go. T-Mobile from my experience seems to be the only one really putting in the hard work in more areas right now to push out 5G, and really improve their network as a whole.
Terrible internet. You never actually get top speed (if it's 300, you average about 50). Worse than that is the *extreme unreliability.* Everyday is an issue.
That upload is terrible, then again im not the intended audience for these things. Im surprised a lot of people are interested however. Something really bad about allowing the cell carriers also be your home internet service just rubs me the wrong way plus net neutrality rules do not apply to wireless carriers so that sucks.
It's junk. It's customer service is junk. It's tech support is junk. It's gateway is junk. My low-mid grade Moto 5G UW Ace is more reliable at staying connected to 5G and 5G UW and providing a 100% uptime Hotspot than their paperweight gateway is. If you like getting up out of your seat to unplug and plug the gateway back in to get it to recconect, then get this. Otherwise, it's unusable junk.
Verizon wireless is terrible. Their 5gUW is no better than 4Glte. And their customer service is atrocious. I spoke with a customer service rep. She of course barely spoke English. Pretending she was losing signal. I could hear her blowing into her phone. Then she hung up. Stay away from Verizon
