VFW HQ Attacks Veteran Online - Special Guest The Fat Electrician 

how are you already here

Smart man.

​@@HurDUR3000AC probably let him preview it before he posted it as public.

Hot damn how was your birthday the other day chubby sparkie fella?

Going to go with time traveling electrician from Iowa.

Keep doing the good work brother! Keep yourself humble as you have been... don't allow some butt hurt individuals rain on your parade...

Keep up the great work. I had challenges with the VFW years ago when I was trying to get my Gulf War Syndrome claim processed. I headed away from them at flank speed.

You keep being you brother. You help the community and we all know it.

We've got your back brother, this is bullshit!

You're doing The Lord's work.

Spirit of the age will always show its hand.

Bingo

And crying about being marginalised.

Those who don't reproduce lose ideologically. Sit back and enjoy.

@@TheKittehboi You too?

Hey stop that

you can't cry wolf

@@AngryCops free country

​@@the2pointo292lmfao, we wish

The VA is literally a socialist healthcare system

Yup, there's your problem!

Most factual statement here

Aka rich men North of Richmond

Sloshing around in the petri dish tends to raise the odds of moral illness.

Yea lots of White people in DC totally not a snarky 300lb ladondra behind that account

Or……because theirs not enough veterans they have to have other customers so they can continue to do their charity work? Ever think of that?

@@Meh-hr7gq 🤣🤣🤣 not the case around here, or there ... Used to be full of Veterans until they hired her and she brought her friends from the last bar she ran under ... Now those same Veterans go elsewhere .. And again, they do not provide any Veteran services or help.

The "Veterans Of Foreign Wars" who started it have all died out, and like most things, when their "Founders Disappear, Rapidly Turned To Crap. For proof, Look at Walmart Today, and Walmart when Sam Walton was running things

@@Meh-hr7gq If they "Don't have enough Veterans" there is a Reason, and it ain't because there is a shortage of Veterans after a 10 year War, followed Closely by a 20 Year War, with "The Powers That Ought Not To Be" Digging Hard to get another War in the Pipeline......You don't think it's because they Give Two Craps about Ukraine, Or Hate Russia, Do You? It's All Because "War Is Big Business, and Very Profitable"", plus there are ever so many opportunity for "Fast Tracking" the Money making Grift, by all sorts of "Bad Actors"(Nefarious Defense Contractors and Greedy Politicians, and Lobbyists, who have never heard a "Shot Fired In Anger' or been Down Range of anything more Dangerous than the office Espresso Machine. It was True 50+ years ago during "My War" in Veeeetnaaam, Republic of, and it's even more true Today. Hell, we gotta fed all them Millions of Dislegal Alien Critters, that are already Bitching about and Demanding "More and Better Freebies, That Can Never End", else they'll Pout and Show Out, by blocking Commerce, Traffic and free movement, Steal everything that ain't nailed down, and Destroy the Rest. Not to mention all the Violent Crimes that have Miraculously Increased, since they started their little "Invasion" funded, Promoted, and Enabled by a Certain Political Party that has been Screaming that they are all about "Helping, Every Day, Working Americans" ever since Lincoln and A Bunch Of Yankee Boys, made them Turn Their Slaves Loose, Back In The day. It was in all the Papers, unless I disremember?

Sounds like a ... what do they call it... scam operation.

Thank you for helping!! ❤

Thank you for helping them

Because the VFW has been bought. Its just a mouthpiece for washington bureaucrats. VFW stands for Vlue Falcons of Washington.

They VFW has incentive in shit not getting fixed... why they have always maintained the status quo, and been opposed to most all the improvements in claims processing reform.

I used the American Legion in my town to apply for re-evaluation after being retired for 20 years. My initial paperwork was done through the DAV. I retired before before the current Separation Health Assessment system.

Because them helping is work. And they just wanna paycheck. Taking about higher ups as ik that most of lower and on ground people wanna help.

The VA would be way easier if when they denied you that told you what needed fixed and/or changed to award the benefit. Take me I'm filing for smc s I haven't left my home in over 2 years I cant work I have a doctor say that. I'm guessing it's the word "won't" not can't that caused em to deny my claim. I won't leave my home cuz when I do I have constant panic attacks. If the VA just explained when they deny your claim what evidence you need these bad organizations wouldn't have a leg to stand on

It's funny cuz my unit's third party is lacking funding to actually conduct annual check ins..

The C&P process is corrupt. After 50 years I’m going through it at present. When a loon like Pocahontas is bringing up this corruption in Congress, you know how bad this process really is. Even Dimocraps recognize it. Elizabeth Warren aka “Pocahontas “ is demanding action?

Hey buddy big daddy gubment has to get their dirty laundry washed too lol.

Yeah it's funny but the doctors the VA outsourced for me actually helped me more than the VA doctors did. They actually listened to what I had to say, looked over the evidence, talked to me about it, asked questions that mattered and really helped me with the claim process by doing their job first. They treated me like a human being and wanted to hear what I had to say! Without the VA outsourcing to these doctors I do not think I'd have gotten the rating I have and I would still be playing the VA's game. What the VA needs to do is when you file a claim and they go over your entire record they need to tell you what else is in your file that you need to file a claim for. The VA goes over your entire record every time you file a claim so if you file 4 individual claims the VA will go over your record 4 times and say you have 2 other issues that you need to file for, instead of telling you hey these 2 issues need to be filed for as well, they just act like those issues do not exist and never tell you a thing. That needs to change. The VA claims to help Veterans but they will screw you over any chance they get and that's complete bs.

I went to the American Legion in our town to apply for re-evaluation almost 20 years after retirement. They we very helpful, informative and through. Most of my evaluations were conducted by VA doctors and 2 by contract PA/NPs.

Agreed but i think everyone involved is on the same team here. Lets not eat each other and focus our energy to help vets.

I also used one after 10 years and got a rating I had been fighting for the whole time.

"You shouldn't have to pay" LITERALLY nobody is saying vets should have to pay (except the sharks), it is such a fucking strawman of a platform to run on. No, they shouldn't but guess who is making them _want_ to pay, nay _need_ to pay? That's right, the VFW and their shitty bureaucratic process they apply to the simplest claims. How's about this: you tell vets what hospitals they are pre-approved to go to and then have them defer the payment until you can evaluate the claim. I mean they shouldn't have to pay right? Then just fucking tell them were they can go to get their effectively free health care for minor things or things that are time-sensitive. It isn't that hard, that is literally how most insurance companies operate, they tell you where you can go for essentially no-questions asked coverage and tell you going elsewhere or having certain procedures will require evaluation for approval. I have no idea (I mean I do, we all do, but I am being hyperbolic here) why they cave gone 125 fucking years without implementing at least some of these basic practices in private health insurance. I get it, they are a government institute but they aren't working for the public, they are working for veterans (and immediate families/dependents of veterans). It isn't like medicaid/obamacare where they don't necessarily know who the fuck you are and need to make sure you are not trying to get something you are not entitled to. If veterans "should not have to pay" then why the fuck are you making them pay WITH THEIR TIME? You know, the thing they already gave up years of for their country and now you make some wait YEARS to receive their benefits when they apply for them. Make no mistake, bad actor VFWs are the bad guys. (as stated in the video not all local VFWs are like this, but the main branches/HQs almost all are. I know my boss, who's wife is a vet so he is on her benefits, has had nothing but good things to say about the VA here)

PREACHHHHH!

Reason I didn't join the VFW. I'm 55 years old and when I walked in the door, I was the youngest person in the room by a long shot. I thought I was in a nursing home. No hate against those patrons. My point is if they want younger members, maybe do things that appeal to younger people.

My ( now deceased) Father a WW2 Veteran was denied membership because he served with the US Merchant Marine 1942-1945. Battle of the Atlantic. Dad made a total of 22 Convoy Runs across the North Atlantic dodging Hitler's "Wolfpacks" and survived. Even after the WW2 Mariners received full Combat Vet status in the 1980s ( Honorable Discharge administerd by the US Coast Guard , WW2 Campaign Medals etc) the VFW still denied them membership. But they'll accept me, a Army Vet who never saw a shot fired in anger but because I have a Korea Defense Medal from my two tours there with the Army, I can join...uh..hell no.

@@bkpickell They turned their back on Vietnam veterans because Vietnam "wasnt a real war"

The posts are alright, cheap beer, but there is a serious sense that they look down on GWOT veterans. Being 29 walking into one feels like I’m volunteering for a nursing home

I've heard too many times that veterans were told, "You're war is not my war" while not even looking at them to acknowledge their presence, when trying to connect at the VFW.

Ay you hit the trifecta helping people on all sides ya did good man

I can't join the army due to having half a working heart so I just tried to be a nurse and an expert in trauma care. If war does break out in my country I'm automatically in an army hospital. You can be ready to serve without serving

Now depending on location their turning away Gwot veterans

I got you some crayons and mre cheese.

@@nissan300ztt thanks. It's breaktime and I'm hungry.

LMAO & Semper Fi, Always

@@nissan300ztt Hey Now! Don't go Doggin MRE Cheese. Just imagine how many cases of "The Runs" they have prevented....sometimes Permanently?

Respect lol

Because they know nothing will happen. They only understand loss of money or physical harm.

Like EVERY member of the Federal Government Bureaucracy.

I'd stand by that

POB

Chuck has spoken.

AC specifically mentioned that Veteran with a Sign has gotten zero Pats on the Back for what he's doing.

Seconded

Veterans Guardian did the same for me after multiple VSOs ignored me.

Same, i also went with vet ben guide. they have a high turnover so i kept getting different reps but only took like 8 months and some of that was waiting on the medical appointment. definitely worth.

Likewise, the VA pooch screwed my claim for a few years and the Legion was sitting on replies and cared less about what to do next. So I dumped the Legion and used a rep my brother in law recommended and it was like getting artillery support AND a few A-10’s attacking the claim and it went from 70% to 90% then 4 months later, 100% permanent. Yes, it was well worth the couple grand and I’m very grateful for how they improved my life.

Same deal

@@echohunter4199 I’m sure they did the issue is if they are sharks nothing can be done should it be a crapshoot ?

Any news?

Not defending the VFW for the treatment of Zach at all but my Dad joined as a Vietnam vet when he got back in '69. I don't remember if he joined that year but he was a member in at least the early 70s.

@@cdj4572 I'm glad to hear that your dad found a local that was welcoming. For many, they found signs on the doors "VietNam Vets not welcome". Sadly, a lot of the greatest generation and Korean vets didn't see Nam as a "foreign war". I am very grateful for how the veteran community has come together over the last few decades, but the "Welcome Home" that most Nam Vets received was disgraceful. I saw first hand how my father and uncles were treated, that was still going on when I entered active duty in 89... Groups like the VVA in the 80s are what helped turn the tide. Much love to all the vets out there, our generation stands on the shoulders of giants. Semper Fi!

I hired a lawyer to handle my VA appeal, yes it cost me 25% of the lump sum for back payments owed to me, but to me it was worth it. Never go with anyone who wants a cut of your monthly payments, that's bullshit.

​@@davh73my SSI lawyer took 35%, so 25% for dealing with usa.gov was a good deal

Yes they did. The VFW also has this attitude of looking down on GWOT vets (not all posts of course, there’s a diamond in the rough sometimes). It’s difficult to join if you didn’t fight in a “war” last official war was in the 1940s…. Especially if you’re not Army or air force because the “time in conflict” requirement, Naval and Marine Corps missions typically aren’t occupy the same area for extended period of times type of missions. So Sailors and Marines with tons of Sea Time in hot zones but because the typical amount of time in one theater is less than 180 days. You are not eligible for membership. Only exception is if you participated in a campaign. There’s a reason why VFW memberships are plummeting as the old guard dies but American Legion and American Veterans (AMVETS) memberships has steadily risen.

Hey now. All true Marines know the Red crayons taste like cherry!

@@nissan300ztt the grape one is up there too

@@jsgun316 ive heard!

Did someone say Green crayons?

Makes me wonder if the VFW allowed themselves to be infiltrated by Russian agents like the NRA and RNC did? Yes, I have the receipts to prove NRA and RNC did. Sex and cash contributions buys a lot of loyalty in DC.

SO MUCH THIS. Original receipt NRA was great, current NRA is degrading weapons safety in America.

Testify, Brother @potatoradio !

I agree, NRA, doesn't sponsor veterans, No VET discount @ any function, join "LOWES" instead !

Definitely went hard R.....never go hard R

Drop that name?

@@directsoldier6028 I'm curious too, my Uncle was old before he saw his 'nam money. Just wondering how early these services were around.

yeah hook a brother up with the name man 😅

@@directsoldier6028 Veteran's Benefits out of San Diego, CA

@@weaponizedrationale6691 Veteran's Benefits out of San Diego, CA

I hope things have improved for you since. I'll never understand people like that who manipulate and take advantage of those suffering from mental health issues.

​@@killianlile173People with mental health issues are easy to manipulate, that's why they prey on them. I've met too many people like that sadly, not just people who have hurt me but also everyone I know.

@@killianlile173 The prey is easy, the consequences are minimal at most, and the perpetrator has no principles. Evil is shockingly easy to understand, my dude, it's just selfish desire acting without moral character.

I remember back in 2001 volunteering at a VFW for a veterans day meal. There was one old woman who I think was the chair told veterans they couldn't get a meal unless they paid their VFW dues. There were some that got angry, one even said "Here, he can have mine and I paid my dues".

Sounds like our local vfw

The VFW is a private organization

I was in a VFW where the Korean vets literally disrespected the shit out of the Vietnam vets. I got sick of it and refused to renew my membership and joined the American Legion instead. I don't know why they would allow that. I mean I was in a dubious war too, and I wouldn't have them shit on me that way.

@@lordcastellan4735 I'm sorry that happened to you brother. Welcome home.

My Dad told me a story very similar to yours.

My tinnitus beat sounds like a out of balance dryer. And I just turned 54. VA doesn't care about that or my wrecked back and knees from the flight line.

@@BoSmith7045 I found that there is types of White noise that I can play that will help tinnitus.

It's like that robot in Fallout that says "that sounds like sedition citizen" in a happy voice lol

​@@williamwest9204Best character of that DLC

I think that is the book chute in big mountain, all those ai's all funny. ​@williamwest9204

Nick is Anticommunist Batman...... Hmmmmmm does that make Phil Labonte from all That Remains Robin?

​@@williamwest9204nahhh liberty prime duuude

Yeah, the perpetual pissing contests get old. So does the endless blowing smoke up arses. There's nowhere for normal folks who just want a quiet drink on the cheap for past services rendered.

My local vfw is pretty good about trying to help veterans of any conflict. Would I ever call the head office for help? Fuck no.

I especially feel that way for the Desert Shield/Storm Veterans. I've been told a few times that I wasn't in a real war.

It was that way just after Vietnam. After I was told I as a soldier lost the Vietnam war I walked out.

​@@barryborton6732if only they knew what happened in Vietnam not what the media told them.

This. The language used there is what government stooges always resort to when they know they are in the wrong. Buzz words and self back patting. AC saying there is a cancer in that place is spot on and that reply is absolute evidence of it.

It's like the catch all phrase by someone who doesn't have a good argument to their shitty idea or take. It's an old Marxist trick of getting out of debate they're losing. Label them a racist so that they're spending all their time defending the label instead of taking apart their claim/view etc. It's literally out of Marx's and other Leftist's playbooks. Hegel I think as well and most far Lefties and activist types. I laugh every time now. If it's not "racist" it's some other ist or phobia they claim. It's when you know you won when they pull that out. But to come from a VA is just nuts. I swear some days I feel like I'm in an Outer Limits or a Twilight Zone episode from when I was a little kid. Or like we're in some offshoot existence of the movie Idiocracy or something. Or a mix of them all.

Merica!

not if the law the VFW supports passes.

Not all will help you I contacted quite a few

I don’t get it, myself and others I knew needed help and I went from 20% to 100% P&T in just three months. I’m a crap advocate for myself like many other vets who just press on. VFW should be directing us to them but it’s a conflict of interest it seems.

Yeah I learned this today as well. I'm one of the fortunate ones, but I got a lot of friends who are going through the slog of waiting. Definitely going to be updating then but warning them to be careful.

see, that's the problem... that makes sense. The government can't do makes sense.

You dont need a 3rd party, people want a third party because they have more money than time.

I mean, military health care is trash, so when we get out and attempt to contact yet another gov agency for help, they know we are used to trash.

The Tallahassee office has the highest rate of rejecting claims.

Any FDVA offices you recommend?

Really? I feel like most of the PCMs at the Gainesville clinic acts like I'm an inconvenience between them and going home for the day... A lot of the schedulers too. My physical therapist is cool as hell tho...

You can literally do it yourself you big dummy, ergo it isn’t possible to be a monopoly.

DUUUUUDE! I cannot saw enough good things about Hays County's TX Vets Commission! More than anything else than I have space to praise here, they fully educate their folks. For 10 years, my husband did a better job at being his own advocate than any of the sorry ass Veteran's groups we allowed to "assist" us with his claim until TX Vet Com came to our rescue. They were knowledgeable and treated both of us with dignity. With mine, I used a one-time-fee based company after I was able to battle my way to 30%. TX Vet Com was a god send in bumping up the number even further. I served in the Army 30+ years ago. Try getting personal copies of records or proof of ANYTHING before 1990. The National Archives treated me like I never existed. TX Vet Com was able to get aaaaaall of my records electronically (something no other service could do).

Been fighting the va on claims for a couple years and it's been a nightmare to get anything... any tips to help with the process or where to go, I'm Houston northwest in Texas.

@@yulfine1688 Sorry to hear that, I did mine back in 2014, I was at Lackland AFB

@@Ron_EZ currently stuck with a higher level review that's 1.5 years old, and two other claims that are I think 6 months to a year old. They haven't been updated for a while just sitting in limbo, one is a COD because my service record says honorable but my dd214 says uncharacterized and so that was creating issues so I was told to file so I did. That apparently is holding back my other 2 claims supposedly and I can't get any movement on it.

​@@yulfine1688dude, watch the video... The people VFW hates are THE WAY! REE Medical However, it seems Texas may help. VFW, California, Virginia, Maryland, both Carolinas, Florida, and Kentucky were no help for me. About 14 years later, REE had me sorted in less than 90 days

"Flash out"

BLUF: Cease and desists can be legit, but this isn't a cease and desist That's not fully correct, cease and desists (if written as such, by a lawyer for a specific purpose) by themselves mean nothing, but not following them is 99.9% going to end up with you in court at a minimum spending thousands of dollars defending yourself.

Nah. You have to judge the merits of the request. Asking you to stop promoting a legal business is not legally actionable.

That gave me flashbacks of the whole "quit touching me" phase while riding in cars with siblings. I should have sent my brother a cease and desist letter

There’s a reason VFW memberships are declining as the old guard dies but the American Legion and AMVETS membership has kept up with veteran populations.

After seeing this makes me regret using the vfw.

Thats what Im thinking

It probably isn't that direct. Its probably much more a matter that they all move in the same D.C. circles, getting invited to balls/galas, conferences in nice locations, etc.

Perhaps you should have contacted or joined a different service organization, such as the American Legion. In order to belong to the Veterans of Foreign Wars (VFW), you must have served on Foreign soil during a time of war or conflict. If you never left the United States then you are American Legion material. Go talk to them.

Some posts are shit and some do great deeds for the fellow veterans out there. Sucks that you walked into a shit post. Glad you got shit straight though. Keep up the fight and never give up.

​@h.johnson what does that have to do with how they treated him?

​@h.johnson he didn't say anything about joining, he said they refused to assist with his claim... then, obviously treated him like shit. The fact you're quasi defending that is unfathomable...

Thank you for your service and your willingness to serve. Not all veterans see combat, but the fact that they are willing to be ready when called means alot to the rest of us ❤

Same as it ever was. The Revolutionary War vets had to threaten to overthrow Congress to get their benefits. For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' Chuck him out, the brute!" But it's "Saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot; An' it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' anything you please; An' Tommy ain't a bloomin' fool - you bet that Tommy sees! -Rudyard Kipling, "Tommy"

That's only partially true. Back in the 70s during Vietnam, even the "peaceful" "peace-loving" protestors spat and threw things at them when they came home. Then they ended up poor and on the streets. Veterans of Vietnam were sure as hell mistreated by everyone. Honestly, a shittier part of history.

Whens the last time we fought a war that directly threatens our society?

No idea why my comment was deleted by RU-vid but this is only partially true. When Vietnam was going on Vets were treated like garbage, being spat on by "peace-loving" "peaceful" protestors, something that shouldn't have been allowed. Most of those Vets went on to be left homeless and poor, society had made them outcasts. It was a shitty time in history.

@@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz Gulf war against the Russians when they were positioning themselves in the middle east. We didn't fight them directly but, they were trying to make a tactical move that would have threated our safety in the future. Before that I'd say the Cold war and then before that was WW2.

I can never unsee AngryDoctorCop

That's who i thought it was for a second, had to do a double take! 😆

I didn’t see it till I read this… thank you for that, I think?

@@azmiupnorth2220 doctor angry, phill cop

@@Texasplit Just glad to be of service. *☺️*

Debilitating physical and mental disabilities -- the coolest!

I thought it was ads for the American Legion?

You should see them on the Unsubscribe podcast together “Fat & Angry”

And boy was it fat and angry my guy

@@MikeF_44 Fat & Angry and slightly drunk

I've worked with the angriest electricians possible... trust me, it is not good for mental health hahaha. Always supported vets, had pilots om the family. Another comment for the algorithm. Fight for what you earned!

What till you see Habitually Fat & Angry.

Don't be a Counter-Revolutionary comrade. Now APOLOGIZE for your FASCIST ACTIONS in the Middle East! Uh I'm a Vietnam Veteran THAT'S EVEN WORSE!!!!!

We've called each other comrade since the beginning, over 110 years ago.

I prefer "hey you" or "kameradden" if I'm feeling spicy. I mean if you're gonna goose-step, goose-step with the best. Can we get some Hugo Boss uniforms up in here?

Not sure what was wrong with brothers and sisters in arms, or sir and ma'am.

​@mezmerizer0266 I've never used the word comrade.