I really appreciate your efforts to get the latest info on vibration plates to all your viewers! I was a bit disappointed that Dr. Conviser didn't use the opportunity to share research based facts. He started to sound more like a salesman, referring people to Powerplate's website. You asked him a very specific question (which is probably the one question many of us want an answer to) and he shied away from a direct answer. Too bad, but I know you are determined to get the answers, Dr. Doug, so I'll look forward to your next video.
Dr doug Wil you please do a video on several different manufacturers of vib. plates and how to determine the hz amount needed. I suspect a person with OP of -2.5 would need a different setting for someone with OP of -4.5. Thanks!
Thank you so much! I have been following you for few months and I really appreciate the excellent, educational content in each of your videos. I appreciate the balanced and analytical perspective you present. Thank you and wishing you much success in the new year!
Thank you for this interview. Really well conducted with a great guest. Love that the speaker was able to explain the effects on the muscles and the fact that the LOWER settings are the range to be used. That’s always been my concern with vibration machines and reliance on the user to regulate the machine. Clearly, vibration is a tool when used well, can help people on the health journey. I will be interested to follow up with his study references. Dr Rubin’s work was about how vibration affects the cells that influence bone change, while this guest’s work is about how to harness vibration for exercising well. I’ve learnt a lot about both aspects from qualified and experienced people. Thanks again for this coverage of the topic. Looking forward to Part 3.
Another great conversation regarding WBV. Its a topic that Ive been super interested in since recently hitting 44 years and obviously very concerned about my bone health in the (menopause) years ahead. Thank you Dr. Doug for having such indepth interviews with very knowledgable people on this topic. It is immensely interesting & helpful. Cant wait to watch part 3! Have the popcorn ready. 😊 Regards from sunny South Africa.
I am obsessed with my PowerPlate. I use it barefoot. 1 min on and 1 min off for 10ish minutes several days a week. Along with weight training and other resistance, can’t wait to see results on my next Dexa! Another great interview. Thank you, Dr. Doug!
@@loripolich1253 I’m not sure if I got back to you! 🤦🏻♀️ I have the Personal Power Plate and I don’t go above 35Hz. 1 minute on/1 minute off and repeat. I love it! I can’t wait to see if it does anything. I have been using it at least 5 days a week, around 10 min a day.
Helpful...still question whether Marodyne would have significant effect re: Bone stem cell "differentiation" in an "elderly" person using it 20 minutes/day??? And if so...in what length of time...1 yr?...5 yrs?...10yrs?...time which MAY or MAY NOT be available??? What does NASA actually do to combat bone loss in it's Astronauts???
Thank you for this informative video. When I discussed vibration therapy with my doc, he hadn't heard of it before. He said that any therapy must have clinical trials that show decreased fall and/or fracture rate, not just bone density/quality changes, due to that therapy. Would you say there is enough quality research showing reduced fall/fracture rates in order to recommend the expense of vibration therapy?
Doctors are funny. No study will be done on a large enough scale or for long enough to show reduced fracture rates. The event is too rare to see in a smaller study. I hear this often from doctors and subscribers. They want to wait for the large scale placebo controlled trial before buying. They will have to keep waiting while my patients and myself are vibrating away improving our bone density. We have to use the evidence we have. No one will fund a several hundred million dollar study of this scale. Not enough money to be made.
Doctors are funny. No study will be done on a large enough scale or for long enough to show reduced fracture rates. The event is too rare to see in a smaller study. I hear this often from doctors and subscribers. They want to wait for the large scale placebo controlled trial before buying. They will have to keep waiting while my patients and myself are vibrating away improving our bone density. We have to use the evidence we have. No one will fund a several hundred million dollar study of this scale. Not enough money to be made.
Thanks for this honest answer. I often find that when it comes to supplements, herbs, or any therapy that cannot be monetized sufficiently to justify costly clinical trials, doctors want the above mentioned studies, double blind placebo large scale. But when it comes to pharmaceuticals, promising small studies over a short period of time (while ignoring the data of those pesky side effects) are often enough for them to rx to their guinea pig patients. I just wish VT were a wee bit cheaper. I guess an alternative way to look at this is at best VT it can stave off further bone loss. No small feat. At worse it may be a waste of $$$ and a small waste of time. The same cannot be said of the best/worse case scenarios from pharmaceuticals.
Great information for a subject that has a lot of questions and controversy. I am a power plate user and can now move forward with my bone building program in confidence.
@@loripolich1253 I have the power plate Move. It’s a comfortable good size and I can even move it. Must be about 100 pounds but very stable. Shop around, you will see they are often on sale.
Brilliant. Dr Doug. What happens if someone from another country,like the UK,would love to join your team .How do you manage blood test and other test. Do you have to travel to your country. Like to know how it works. Thanking you on your Amazing videos. You are a very clever Doctor!
Hi! At the moment we have two options for anyone who resides out of the U.S. We have Health Span Nation, Bone Foundations Course and our Free Bone Foundations Masterclass which occurs once a month. You can find links to all of these in the video description!
Thank you for this information. I have been using vibration on and off for a few years. I bought it for my osteoporosis. 65 years old female. This really helps with circulation and really increases my energy levels. My brain feels much clearer when using it daily for 15-20 minutes at level 30-35. I try to walk most days but have not done strength training or weight lifting. How much time per week do I need to do do strength training?
65 F myself with osteopenia. I’ve been strength training for the last 6 months. I work out 3 times a week but even once a week is said to be helpful. Have you had any success building bone mass since starting the vibration and walking?
Great. 👍 I’ve been trying to figure out what plate I should buy. Hasn’t been easy. I’m glad that you will review the research and share your findings. I purchased a cheaper plate on Amazon that I was told can work at 30 hertz but didn’t know how to verify the amplitude. And because the price is under $500 I wondered. I decided to return it. Episode 3 will help. I’m thankful for the content of your RU-vid channel, Facebook and what I’m learning in the online course. Thanks 🙏
I should have watched this interview before commenting, and using it for the first time since it was very informative to my concerns and my back wouldn’t be hurting right now because I need the chair
@@Dr_DougLucas about a year ago I purchased the lifepro wavermini . Still working great and Joel from lifepro is always available for advice etc. it is 23.7 inches long and I can move it about throughout my house. I also have a peloton and pro rebounder, x3 system and a rowing machine so it isn’t the only thing I use for physical activity. I find it great for balance exercises. It is a sad state they our nation does not offer a WellCare system that could make these things affordable to everyone. This business of being a for profit system is shameful. My brother recently went through a horrible experience due to negligence from the hospital he went to for horrific back pain. The emergency room sent him to a back surgeon who wanted to preform back surgery. The surgeon sent him to physical therapy for a few weeks. One night he was in so much pain he was biting a pencil laying on the floor. His wife took him to another emergency room that was not overwhelmed with patients. There they did ultrasound and other tests and found that he has 4 kidney stones the size of golf balls. He almost damaged his kidneys. I worked at SBU and managed the biomedical research department for over 34 years. When you think something doesn’t add up, ask questions and remember, it is OK to fire the doctor and get another. It is your health, take responsibility for it.
The LIV guys clearly don’t like higher G forces of the PowerPlate, which I just started using at my gym. (30hz, Low setting, knees always flexed ,60 seconds on 60 seconds off for a total of 15 minutes of vibrating using different positions/movements). I am wondering if one could hedge their bet a bit by standing on the platform using the foam pad (or perhaps 2 pads) which appears to attenuate the force?
oops sorry I didn't mean to post twice. We just had a power outage so I thought what I'd written didn't post. Please disregard below post as it's a repeat.
Don't laugh! I use my vibration plate machine to help defeat my occasional constipation! I did that very thing, today! I very rarely have constipation issues, but the other day I ate some bad watermelon which gave me food poisoning. I threw up six times in a row while sitting on the throne until all the red bad watermelon came out, yuck. So the second day after that terrible experience, I had very bad constipation and this is my 100% guaranteed way to move my bowels: one. I have a setup board and I do 10 or more sit-ups to get movement going internally. And once or twice I'll get on my vibration plate machine, but I discovered a way to use it to specifically relieve my constipation. Here's the trick, staying with both feet close together with only half your foot feet on the vibration plate machine. So you are basically teetering on the edge of one side of the plate. I have my vibration plate machine set for an up and down motion. And let me tell you after 2-3 months two three minutes I'm going up and down up and down up and down, you'll be pooping soon! LOL
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I’m very new to this channel. I appreciate this video and all your content. Do you have a video about creatine monohydrate as it refers to osteoporosis? Thank you for your work. 😊😊😊
I have a rod in my femur after a fracture and a pin in my hip, but no plates and only one screw in the rod, would it be safe to use a vibration plate, the surgery was 2 years ago?
Found part 2. 0ooo and part 3...yay Fascinating intro dr d...plus this expert is in my age range too... MUCH APPRECIATE..XX Ps..up a big mountain in Türkiye so no chance of a vibration machine.. Just found you and Ini.s shake a leg videos....
Helpful discussion. I’m 70, with osteoporosis, poor lymphatic drainage in legs, poor balance. No chronic meds. My finance is limited. I selected a lifepro mini. 1G, max 12hz, max 6mm. Using lowest setting the last 4 days, standing, sitting with feet on it, lying down with calves on it. I’m noticing a slight improvement in moving around, with a little less pain. I’m wondering if insurances cover any of these machines, so i could get a better one?
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Why was everyone showed on examples using whole body vibration 30ish looking. Dr said he worked with older population? I believe in this therapy but females all were very young.Why not show older population he works with?
@Dr_douglucas do you know if the Personal PowerPlate or the PowerPlate Move is the best model? Are there benefits to having higher than 35Hz for building bone or other benefits? Thanks you for any insight you have on which is the better choice.
I’m 81 and need something that I can use for exercise, as I’m not able to walk very well, but I’m having trouble with retaining fluid in my legs and feet. I’ve just ordered a small unit to use setting and possibly standing. I’m retired and can’t afford a more expensive unit. I understand the idea you get what you pay for but we seniors have very limited income.
Hi! We have a few other videos on our channel about exercise. I also recommend attending our free Bone Foundations Masterclass if you have not been to one before. You can learn more at the following link --> www.optimalhumanhealth.com/build-bone
Maybe it's just me, but I get lost with so much medical talk of studies and research. Power Plate is expensive. Would you be able to do a comparison with different machines based on price and performance?
I purchased the plate after watching your video yesterday, and used it for the first time before watching this video, I truly believe I can use it but my fear is that I have a laminectomy and spinal infusion in my lower back L2 and L4 along with a t score of-4.00 spine on my most recent test 2024, I am not on any medication yet also due to watching a video interview you did about prolia at a young age 62, triggering me to seek a specialist Dr Rubin in chapel hill nc who I also was blessed to find the same way I found you, so with that being said, is this a safe option for me? I hope I am lucky enough to get a response 😊I have a small return window 😂
Hi there! Which device did you buy? Ultimately, you’ll have to ask your surgeon. The Marodyne device is much more subtle than the PowerPlate device and delivers less force than walking. You’ll have to run it by your surgeon and likely educate him on the features of the device.
When one expert disagrees with another by saying he can't reproduce the results (8:48 he talks about lower amplitude and ownership bias, hint hint, Dr. Rubin and Marodyne), what results does he mean? Does he have clinical trials showing that the lower amplitude machines like the Marodyne, were not sufficient to stimulate bone density/ quality? This study: Effectiveness of whole-body vibration on bone mineral density in postmenopausal women: a systematic review and meta-analysis of randomized controlled trials states "At this time, considering the high quality of evidence, it is possible to recommend WBV using high frequency (≈ 30 Hz), low magnitude (≈ 0.3 g), and high cumulative dose (≈ 7000 min) to improve lumbar spine aBMD in postmenopausal women. Other parameters, although promising, need to be better investigated, considering, when applicable, the safety of the participants, especially in vibrations with higher magnitudes (≥ 1 g)". I'm not a medical person, but doesn't this seem to be saying that the Marodyne with its lower amplitude is currently the only one they can recommend? Higher amplitudes await further testing? I didn't see Dr. Rubin's name anywhere on the study and under Ethics none are stated. Looking forward to your summary video.
You’ll love it. I spend a lot of time reviewing that paper. Here’s the short. In the meta analysis they group the low and high displacement devices separately. They seem to conclude that the Marodyne device is the only one to recommend but if you dig deep there are only two papers that meet their criteria. One is Rubin’s and the other doesn’t report on hip and spine. That recommendation seems to only be coming from Rubin’s paper. Seems fishy to me. There is an abundance of literature supporting the higher amplitude devices for hip and spine BMD.
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I bought a vibration plate 4 months ago. Yes, it was one of the AFFORDABLE ones. This video information is very educational.... so since I have an affordable plate... should I no longer use it? I'm 72 and a couch potato.... I was hoping I was helping myself... but your guests think if I am unable to afford one of the thousand dollar + units.... use nothing at all.... RICH people need to walk in the REAL WORLD shoe's... So...do I throw my vibration plate in the closet.... how can I find out if it's helping or hurting me.
I doubt seriously you are going to get a helpful response. Both of these guys know that there are very affordable safe vibration plates and they pretend and dance around the other products..unforgivable..This post is like a hour long sales pitch...confusioning everyone with words, words, words..
Hi Barbara, I appreciate @lindakautzman7388s response but strongly disagree. First off, I’m not selling anything. There are words, words, words because it’s an interview. Hard to do without them. My approach here is to give each side the opportunity to discuss their products and chose the best companies to do so. I stand behind the work of professional products like PowerPlate and support their use. There are numerous alternatives on the market but as Jason says you run the risk of getting what you pay for. Inconsistent results and possibly increasing forces which may be harmful. You just don’t know. So, I stick with the brand leaders. And Barbara, I started my career making about $10,000 per year. I know what the real world looks like and what it’s like to live without much. I sympathize with fixed budgets and limited income. That’s why we offer our Bone Foundations course for free and our HSN for $15/month. We are serving the community as best we can in a non subsidized practice.
@@victoriamyers1968 Keep using it. I'm using mine. There are other youtube videos that are helpful.... find them. I use mine for 10 minutes daily... I move around on it to avoid "shaking" my brain. I feel much better using it than not. So keep moving forward and don't let the egg heads scare you!
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Your first speaker is so sloppy in his words and thus in is thinking that I can only look and see iwhat he is emphasizing of what I already know. He is NOT to be believed. SMH He says things that I am certain/know are wrong. 1, 2, He mentions he has nor seen result from lower speed vibration, above 35Hz. at 1 to 2mm. The rocker/teeter-totter machines have some very good studies. His clients like triplanar. He demos it as rotation (on z axis, y axis, x axis) saying leftright, frontback, updown. (These dont have"G's. They have wiggles. I dont know how he measures G's. But he says he doesn't know what the G's mean. Then picks a number that none of the machines he is talking about have. (red herring). The host already said in part one then her is asking about something they dont know. This speaker does not have the patients on directly after joint replacement while in part 1 you say that is the really important time to use them. I am half way through and done with this video.