I own a 2010 Vision Tour and bought it used 2 years ago. In South Dakota, both our Indian dealers and a number of independents know Victory well and how to work on them. It appears that Victory has caught on with the younger riders and they sell as soon as they are listed. My own take as both a tall rider and a senior rider is that they are an amazing motorcycle. Not to much tech, but all the tech you really need. They are economical to operate, easy to maintain and repair, and reliable as all get out, very comfortable. My Vision was the only bike I found that fit right out of the box and at 6' 5" and 280lbs that is incredible indeed. Any mods you want to make are out convenience, not necessity. The fit and finish are not up to Harley or current standards, but the Victory runs while the Harley is in the shop. A number of parts manufacturers are committed to producing parts for the Victory line well into the future. I believe, like many Iconic bikes of the past, that parts will be available well past 2027. I love my Victory because it has soul and speaks to me. It tells me what it likes and doesn't like. Soul is priceless! I may get a second motorcycle, but my Victory will always be my first love.
Great additional input Vincent. Having Indian dealers near you that continue to support them is great. I think knowing the situation in your area is important for that buy decision as experience does appear to vary greatly depending on where you are. I do know what you mean on the fit and finish side of things. I think they would have gotten there with a few more years and continued investment. That is one area the current Indian and Harley bikes have made strides in. Most of the fit and finish items have nothing to do with drive train though so it makes for a bike that has a few quirks, but runs like a champ. In regard to the after-market stepping up, I hope you are right as I have no intention on getting rid of my Victory. Thanks for the comments!
As a former owner of 3 victory bikes I also have been riding for over 38 years and never had a Harley that needed to be in the shop. Never left stranded by a Harley or Victory. The longest wait on parts was trying to track down a set of fork seals for a victory jackpot in 2019. Victories promise of 10 years parts support is a sham.
@@Twincam808Not exactly. While Polaris does/did own both, I think all but one engine was scrapped and is on one of the Scouts. I think Arlen Ness was the main designer for Victory bikes. The main designer for Indian is Harley 😂
Disingenuous to say Harleys are always in the shop. Thats an old trope from the days of AMF thats still around because it’s always cool to make fun of the king. I’ve owned 3 HD’s without any issues what so ever.
So comfortable for taller riders! That is one reason I simply won't get rid of this bike. The footboards also are perfect for those with large shoe sizes. Thanks for watching!
Ive just sold my 2017 Victory Magnum Stealth. Having owned and driven it, i can honestly say that it was the best motorcycle i have ever owned!! And I've owned several Harley baggers! I sold this bike because they became a collectors item and i got MORE than i paid for it!! I recently competed in the Police Motorcycle Competition and did very well in spite of having a longer wheel base, a set back seat (forcing the rider to be seated well back of optimum, and in the hands of a new rider, I was quite proud of my performance! IMOH I believe if you keep you Vic in good shape, it should fetch a higher price in the future!
That is very possible. I think the collectors aspect and the supportability aspect are tugging at each other. It will be interesting to see which wins longer term! BTW, congrats on doing well in that police competition. I've watched some of those online and the courses I've seen are super fun to watch and people make it look easy!
@chasingredlineofficial 2 places are a definite, San Bernardino, my mom lived there when she a girl. She passed 3 years ago.. And San Diego, I want to watch the sun set and ride the coast line. I live in VA and have never been that far. Texas and South Dakota is my furthest.
@@darrellandes8831 I'm sorry to hear about your mom. Sounds like quite the adventure. Enjoy my friend and be safe out there! Those sunsets are hard to beat.
Totally agree with your take(s) ... I'm 6'3 and when I sat on a Cross Country Tour in the showroom (in Australia) when they were new ... it felt comfortable without any modifications ... in fact most of their range I sat on and they all felt so comfortable ... I regretfully went for a Harley Road King and even though I changed out bars, seats etc and it still never felt quite right ... all these years later I'm now looking at a Victory again ... lesson learned ...
@@chasingredlineofficial It's a creative outlet and a hobby at this point. I'm 4 years from quitting the rat race and would love to grow and monetize at some point. No dreams of grandeur. Just a healthy activity and something to keep me active.
Nice vid! I have a 13 XCT also. 155k miles so far ! I still love all of her imperfections. it's her personality that comes out when im twisting the throttle on the twisty Mountain roads, and I love it!
Excellent review! 😃 I have a 2016 XCT , Wife and I absolutely love it! I have the Lloydz air filter, RCX Slipon exhaust and Cobra power tuner and the bike really hauls ass! Like you said, no shortage of power. How are the kicker speakers working out for you? I did install the Alpine speakers from Witchdoctors in the front fairing only. Also added some Boom mat around the speakers to fill in the gaps and direct the sound forward. They sound much, much better than the stock speakers and higher output without getting into an amp. I have my fader set to mostly all front speakers, The rear speakers just don`t add anything. Keep the Victory going as long as you can, 44,000 miles on mine, Enjoy! 😎
Thanks man! I didn't add an amp either so the kicker speakers don't add much for volume but made a big difference in clarity. You have better presentation throughout the lows, mids, and highs. It would really benefit from an amp but I didn't do that. Glad you and your wife are loving the XCT. Thanks for tuning in!
The V-92 cruiser is the ONLY Victory ive seen any legitimate complaints about, mainly because they were the first bikes and part of a learning curve for Polaris. My Vegas has 34k and runs like a monster unleashed even with 20 years on her.
I honestly think Victory was a bit ahead of it’s time. I would loved to have seen how they developed to this point with more tech and how they made it a point to look different from everything else. All Polaris does now is copy HD. If you can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em I suppose.
Glad you love it! Be sure to let us all know how your continued riding goes, whether you experience any issues, and how your support experience is. Hopefully you go many, many years without missing a beat! Thanks for watching!
I had a few Victory motorcycles , 2007 Arlen Ness Jackpot, 2015 Cross Country Tour & 2016 Victory Magnum, all were awesome bikes. sold all 3 of them in March 2021 as the parts and accessories were becoming harder to obtain and the aftermarket has pretty much dried up. Sold all 3 during the hight of Covid for ridiculous prices, ended up another Harley & buying a new 2021 Harley Street Glide. There are things i miss about the Magnum or CCT like the long floor boards but when it comes to maneuverability Harley handles better and not so long. currently i have a 2009 Harley Rocker C, 2014 Harley Dyna Wide Glide & 2021 Harley Street Glide. Ive also owned a couple Indian over the years but the Indian's and Victory's all got sold, Harley is where i am at and i told think i will be going back to Indian anytime soon.
Thanks for the comments. You've had quite the list of bikes. The floor boards are definitely a highlight but also understand the longer wheel base. It has never really bothered me though as the highway stability is improved slightly. While the parts are somewhat available from OEM still (some are not), the accessories market is for sure spotty and you have to dig several places to find what you want. Enjoy the Harley life!
I have a 2004 Vegas with the only mods being a Mustang seat and a Victory windshield. I have over 65000 mile on it and it has been very reliable and comfortable on long rides. I usually get 50 mpg and the 92 cubic inch engine has more than enough power. The clutch cable and drive belt both broke once which was annoying, but other than that only tires, oil and brake pads replaced. I do all my own maintenance and I have to say that they could have made it easier to service the rear wheel, tire,brake as it is a total pain in the ass to change out. I have loved it and it has definitely been the best motorcycle I have owned. I have a new Moto Guzzi and I have to decide whether or not to keep the Victory or sell it.
Yeah, that is the large question for the community on whether to keep the things. I'm choosing to ride mine until it won't go any longer. Primarily due to the cost of a more recent alternative. To get something remotely close on a new bike would cost me far more than I stand to lose if I eventually get to a problem I can't fix on the Vic. Paying $30k to add an infotainment system and a little more displacement isn't enough to get me to switch. Would you replace the Vegas or just downsize to just the Guzzi?
You're talking about wind buffeting are you talking about adding triple tree lowers or bar lowers? Thank you for the great review!! Coming off an 09 HD Ultra classic and looking at a 2015 Cross Country ABS not the touring model. I wonder if it has cruise control? Thanks again?!
Hey there! I actually did an entire video on buffeting on the cross country. Be sure to check that one out and I talk about my wind journey with this bike and lessons learned. Hopefully it gives you some ideas of what to expect or try. That cross country should have cruise so you should be good there. Just test all the button panels for cruise and radio control. Come back and share if you end up buying one and what your experience is! Safe riding!
I also own a 2015 Vision . I believe I have about 16,000 mi on it . I’ve had it since it had about 10,000 mi . I like it pretty well . Very comfortable, fun bike , better without the tour pack on it .
I ride a vegas now, but would consider the xc as a more touring bike if that sort of riding is in my future. Seem to be very reliable, and parts still available. The only other option that comes to mind is the Indian challenger or pursuit.
Gotta love the Vegas! The Challenger/Pursuit is a hell of a bike and legend has it the PowerPlus 108 was originally planned to be the Freedom 108 for Victory (most will say it is fact). Both great bikes. For me, a lot comes down to cost to value and the XC is a really good bang for buck currently. Will be interested what you land on when you are ready for something new.
Good video; very informative and helpful to potential owners. I have owned 2014 Victory Cross Country for a few years, and would not part with it, but I have to say that did regret buying it when I first bought it. I am 6ft tall, and while ergonomically, it is a good fit, the wind buffeting at highway speeds was unbearable. You mentioned trying a number of windshields before you found the right one; I would say that for the Cross Country (maybe not the XC Tour), buying an aftermarket windshield is not a choice, unless you are short and don't ride fast. Madstad windshelds and brackets are very popular. The key is to get a windshield that is high enough so that you can see over the top, and some brackets to push the windshield away a bit from the fairing. The resulting pressure equalisation lowers the buffeting effect. Installing fork lowers as well completes the solution.
Thanks David! Great points all around. And you are absolutely right. If left unaddressed, the buffeting can absolutely destroy the experience. I had one ride in particular after removing my hard lowers where it was clear that the buffeting had to go. This was before I added the deflectors and I was about 8 hours away from home when I really came to that realization. The lower deflectors have a pretty large impact. I do think it would be even better if I pushed the shield away from the fairing a tad more similar to what the Madstad does but perhaps not quite that far out. The setup now allows me to go long distance without much trouble at all.
12 highball here, my friend has an 03 HD and is 70 lbs lighter than mine, and has spent a metric ton (22k CAD) of cash on upgrades. Drag raced him at my home track and was consistently only 1 to 1.07 seconds slower. that's on a 5 yr old tire, pipes and an air cleaner. Just got it tuned and made an extra 11hp and 11tq, Butt dyno says she be spicy, next friday night street drags we shall see.....
Let us know how you do! I'll probably be posting some highway pulls of the cross country next to my buddy's 2022 heritage classic. Should be interesting to see how they compare!
@@chasingredlineofficial well allllrighty then! baseline pull, dirtiest Ness stage 1 filter ive ever seen, and a 2 into 1 baffled pipe, 86.13 hp & 97.08 ftlbs @ 5300 rpm.... cleaned the filter completely reflash by MAS Cycle here in BC Canada (THE Man by the way), reflash ecu sprinkle some pixie dust here and there, and made 91.08 hp and 102.77 ftlbs at the new rev limmit of 5900 rpm. thing is, my butt dyno says I gained 40 50 hp... wtf? low actual gain numbers but she frikin flys!!!! its the drivability and sheer grunt all the way through the gears, and the best thing??? she runs WAY cooler, not sure how much but the ole sack says TYTYTY!!!! fun factor ... can confirm!
@@evelkoloski Sounds like a blast! Always fun to pull up against a friend's pile of money and make them sweat when your 10 year old bike runs them down!
I had a cross country and it was a great bike. I really enjoyed the feeling of sitting in it vs on it you mentioned. It was a big letdown when Polaris killed off victory. The Indians do not compare. The fit and finish is not the same and they try to do a lot of the retro stuff when the original Indian died in the 50s. The the names has been bought and sold a few times. I sold it when I saw the aftermarket parts availability, and even people that were willing to fix it started to diminish
Definitely something folks need to consider when purchasing one. We don't have an easy road ahead. Hoping the aftermarket steps up or Polaris surprises us with a strong show of support. Thanks for watching!
I agree with your comment 100 percent. Victory was on its way up when they pulled the plug, sales were bad but so was Harley for that later time period.
For those of you that have had and currently have a Victory, would 77,000 miles on a Cross Country 8 ball be something to stay away from? Found on 250 miles away from me for $4995.00
Hello, from my limited experience and feedback from users on this channel, I wouldn't shy away from it if it has been well maintained. Certain maintenance jobs can be neglected such as fork oil changes, etc. I would try to get an understanding of the maintenance records the individual has kept. The manual shows what should have been done. Any brand will go to crud if allowed to. But, there are plenty of examples with Victories going over 100k miles with little more than standard maintenance. Check out Rylan's channel too. He has several good videos on more common Victory issues.
@@chasingredlineofficial thank you for your reply, unfortunately someone grabbed it up before I could. However, that hasnt stopped me from hunting for another great deal.
Hello! I've heard quite a few folks talk about that issue and I'll honestly say it hasn't bothered me. With that said, I did remove my hard lowers pretty early on which improves airflow while moving. But even at a stop light, I wouldn't say it is problematic.
@@chasingredlineofficial there is a victory, cross country, red/white two-tone for sale near me. I cannot get over how gorgeous that motorcycle is. I have never bought a motorcycle for its looks. I have refused to buy some motorcycles because of their looks.. I guess I’m going to have to take it for a test drive on a hot day and find out for myself if there is a heat issue.. I have owned 4 Moto Guzzi’s.. you would think those motorcycles would put a lot of heat on the rider. They only did that at stops on hot days. I’ve noticed it’s the motorcycles with radiators. They put out much more heat onto the riders… My GL 1800 goldwing did not roast me, neither does my current big bike, a yamaha royal star venture.. I guess I’ll have to test ride it
lol why should buy one ? heard victory is closed and even they give guarantee for spare parts will be there for the next 10 years still its a risk to buy victory motorcycle. ( also a reason i didnt buy last year ).
Totally. I think it really comes down to whether someone wants to put the time and energy into sourcing their own parts and servicing their own bike. If they are, there are some great deals out there on really well kept Victory motorcycles. If someone doesn't want to dedicate that time and effort, Victory probably doesn't make sense even with the cost savings up front. Thanks for watching!
The short answer is no. Polaris promised parts for 10 years after er the 2017 drop dead letter. They never honored it. Break an internal part, you will begin the search of a lifetime.
Harley went woke Guys are exploding Good time to bring victory back Indian doesn’t really do it for me Cool thing about victory they were never woke Everybody look at a victory cross country all they say is that bike is hard AF
2014 Victory highball here, it outperforms my 2013 CVO with a 110 by a large margin. Gets all the comments too. If they brought them back with good styling I would buy one.
