Latin american natives were famous to wash her hair and body everyday and be quite clean in general, using combs and natural products to make their hair smoother
@@vladimirlenin843 one of the tallest Viking runes ever found took weeks to climb to and then translate. The hard-won translation? “This is very high up!” One could almost expect a lol” at the end left by this ancient troller. The thing is, People have always been people. People have always had senses of humor, and laughed at things, and made silly comments. I hate viewing history from a high horse.
Scene really captures how similar humans are, even if they are literal continents apart. Things like smile, laughter, cry of a child are the same in every culture, no matter how separated
We’re all just animals with advanced language We love cuddles and playing and shiny things There’s a lot of universality in humanity as a whole, our seeds are all the same, our environments grow us into different trees
BUT...Vikings were arrogant, impertinent and aggressive to Native Americans. Contrary to the nonsense in the video the movie "Pathfinder" is a good movie about them. Shows what nefarious slaughterers they were. They also scornfully called Native Americans "Skraelinger", which means something like "weaklings". Their pitiful settlement attempts failed because they were unable to get along peacefully with the Native Americans and because they fought among themselves. So they failed simply out of stupidity. Calling them barbarians is an insult to the barbarians! They hunted humans and were rapists, murderers and bandits. They were the worst torturers! The historical Viking sagas describe in detail the course of this ritual, an act of unprecedented cruelty. In the "blood eagle"(Blutaar) torture method, victims are kept alive throughout the ordeal while their ribs are fractured on the side of their back. The ribs were then spread apart to expose the victim's lungs. Then the two lungs were set up like wings. Therefore "blood eagle", because the sight reminded the Viking torturers of bleeding eagles. They were the worst murderers! On their raids they mercilessly murdered women and children. Prisoners were also sacrificed to their bloodthirsty god Odin. They were immeasurably greedy for prey and were ready for that to murder mercilessly. The Arab merchant Ahmad Ibn Fadlān who was with the Vikings in 922 writes about a chieftain funeral. It was a slave girl with the dead chief burned with. These killers! They also burned a dog, a horse, a cow and chickens. Before they murdered the slave girl, they raped her, and not just one bandit raped her. The whole horde raped her! The slaughtered the slave girl downright after the mass rape. Like the animals! She lay next to the body of the disgusting Chief. These barbarians, murderers! Ibn Fadlān describes the murder of the slave girl this way: Then the slave girl was pulled into the tent by an old woman named angel of death and the men started to beat on their shields with sticks. Six men entered the tent to have intercourse with the girl, after which they laid her onto her master's bed beside him. Two men grabbed her hands, and two men her wrists. The angel of death looped a rope around her neck and while two men pulled the rope, the old woman stabbed the girl between her ribs with a knife. The poor girl, the only positive she did not have to live with this scum anymore. Ibn Fadlān describes the Vikings as "perfect" physical specimens and the hygiene of the Rūsiyyah as disgusting and shameless, especially regarding to sex (which they perform openly even in groups), and considers them vulgar and unsophisticated. Each is tattooed from "the tips of his toes to his neck" with dark blue or dark green "designs". They are the filthiest of all Allah’s creatures: they do not purify themselves after excreting or urinating or wash themselves when in a state of ritual impurity after coitus and do not even wash their hands after meals. They are called by Ibn Fadlān as the dirtiest creatures of God! They are portrayed absolutely wrong in the movie "The 13th Warrior". After all as unhygenic and actually disgusting, but otherwise completely wrongly presented. The usual Viking cult, disgusting propaganda! The Vikings achieved nothing lasting other than colonizing Iceland. WOW! What a great achievement! Instead of settling in North America, these incompetent idiots settled on Greenland, where they became extinct. According to the Viking myth, they should have been the best mariners of the epoch around the year 1000 AD! Ridiculous. The Irish showed them the way to Iceland. From Iceland to Greenland lasted only a few days across the open sea. From Greenland to Newfoundland (North America), took also only a few days across the open sea. These idiots have discovered a new continent and couldn't use their knowledge for anything. In fact they prefered to settle in Greenland where they ended up starving and fleeing! The movie "Pathfinder" is the exception to the usual Viking myth. That is a good movie about them. Shows what nefarious slaughterers they were. The Vikings were definitely not the best mariners because the best mariners of that time were the Polynesians who explored the Pacific. The Vikings mostly stayed close to the coast and mainly orientated themselves on landmarks. Voyages across the open sea were the exceptions, like expeditions into unknown waters. The Vikings were in fact the opposite of the Polynesians who colonized the islands of the entire Pacific in the same epoch. For the the great Polynesians, voyages across the open sea were a matter of course like expeditions into unknown waters. Incidentally, the boats of the Polynesian were also much better suited for sailing than the boats of the Vikings, which is why the Polynesian were able to sail much longer distances than the Vikings. Which can be explained by the fact that the primitive Viking boats, actually were mainly rowing boats with only auxiliary sails, were just that were badly suited for sailing. The Drua ships of the Polynesian used to colonize the myriad of Pacific islands, on the other hand, were excellent sailing ships with superior crab claw sails that were ideally suited to sailing long distances across the open sea. So the Polynesians were the greatest mariners of this epoch around the year 1000 AD and certainly not the Vikings. The Vikings were by no means excellent fighters, as the myths say about them. They lost about 50% of their battles. That's really not an impressive record. By the way, in contrast to the Vikings, the Slavs colonized half of Europe, because the Slavs did not enslave anyone and relied on cooperation and assimilation of other peoples and not like the Vikings, where there was only violence,enslavement and enmity. Yes In fact, the Slavs did not engage in slavery. According to the 6th-century manual of war "Strategikon" by Byzantine Emperor Maurice the Slavs were a hospitable people and did not keep prisoners indefinitely "but lay down a certain period after which they can decide for themselves if they want to return to their former homelands or to stay amongst the Slavs as free men and friends." Byzantine chroniclers noted that Roman prisoners captured by the Slavs could soon become free members of Slavic society if they wished. So slavs were the only ones who even assimilated Romans and not just captured soldiers but the population of entire conquered territories. That is why today there are very many Slavs and only very few Scandinavian descendants of the Vikings in comparison. That is why half of Europe is populated by Slavs and the descendants of the Vikings live in the same relatively small area as 1000 years ago compared to the large area of the Slavs. So Slavs were so successful in the assimilation of other peoples because they weren't as barbaric as the Vikings.
This is hands down the coolest portrayal of Native Americans I’ve ever seen, and it’s probably the most accurate when you think about it because settlers traded with Native Americans early on. Most portrayals I feel like Native Americans are suspicious right out the gate, hostile with an animalistic skiddishness, grunting to each other like cavemen or yelling as they charge into battle just to get murked by boomsticks. In this, they display the proper home team advantage for lack of a better way to put it. They’re the ones in control here. They know it. But they choose to have mercy for the people showing up. They’re cool and collected. I love the guy breaking the arrow, his display of emotional intelligence. I love all the beautiful ornate outfits the women are wearing. I love that their leader is a woman because there were matriarchal tribes but you never see those. I love that she’s generous, well-spoken and kind. We know that Native Americans had an *actual civilization* before white people showed up but I don’t think I ever fully realized until now how little that’s actually portrayed. I’ve never even seen this show but I was glued to the screen.
White Settlers/Colonizers are Native Americans, these are just native savages. This wasn't America until it was industrialized, built up, and called America by The Creators, whom were White Conquerors.
It's not nearly as accurate as modern feminist leftoid females like you would easily believe. They aren't advanced like Vikings would be, they wouldn't have shown mercy even to the babies, they'd have likely cannibalized the group, and they wouldn't look as cool or fresh or painted as they do here. Also, I haven't watched this hollyweird revisionist show, but The Vikings are poorly equipped here, kind of insulting. I'd rather see how some native savages would lose against a superior Viking Raid Party.
There were many VERY DIFFERENT native savage tribes, they murdered each other all the time, most did not have female leaders and were not "matriarchal tribes". So that explains why there wasn't much crt/esg/dei pandering before it became so funded and mainstream.
@@CorruptDemocratsJ6 I dont disagree with the fact that there were extremely warpath driven tribes but there were a litany of tribes that were mostly agrarian and peaceful. Many of them were on coastal areas due to the abundance of food and it would certainly be possible that most of the original tribes Europeans encountered were more peaceful. Otherwise, I would have to believe they would have been slaughtered without the chance to make a foothold on the American continent
Yeah I guess that makes sense. Breaking the tools that create war- shattering the instruments of death. Probably means they wont shoot this arrow at you
did you know the real viking expedition had a cow with them, first encounters with the natives were friendly and there was some trading of food and items between them, soon afterwards the natives attacked the vikings and friendly relations stopped. its possible the vikings traded milk from their cow and since the natives were lactose intolerant they tought they had been poisened after drinking the milk. It's definitely not confirmed, but an interesting theory as to why they suddenly attacked the vikings.
I don’t know much about the relationships between the Vikings and Native Americans but it is very interesting that the Native Americans on the West Coast have much more Japanese type look to them with the folded eyelids and wide cheekbones whereas the Native Americans on the East Coast have almost more European look to them. It would suggest something happened that changed the way Native Americans looked on the different coasts.
@@latsnojokelee6434 There actually is an explanation for at least some of that, it's due to how and when they came to the America's. Most Native American's came over the land bridge formed due to low sea levels because of the Ice Age. They came up through Asia, and such across through Siberia onto the land bridge to Alaska, and down through. Of course, there's also evidence that many, especially those of Hawaii and South America actually came by boat, there are definite Polynesian influences there.
Natives: so yall pale folks wanna be chill? Vikings: eh why not *Few hundred years later* Natives: so yall new pale folks wanna be chill? Europeans: *N* *O*
dude you are joking, but that was my first thought - why is that guy in a suit ? hol up... which timeline is it? Maybe thats just one of the white americans... but no its too soon a suit I was confused
Good show of how two peoples who can't communicate directly, can still interact with each other. We do have universal signs. Laying down weapons, open hands, gestures to say you a welcome. And, often, when others laugh, we do, because we understand there was a joke.... even if it may have been at our expense...cool thing about people is how much we understand among each other, without words
The only verified and reconstructed Viking settlement is in L’Anse aux Meadows in northern Newfoundland. It is astonishing and worth the visit. DNA tracing indicates that Vikings did interbreed with local Beothuk Indians. They lived in wood and sod lodges. The settlement was established 100’s of years before Columbus. Vikings had an unfortunate habit of not recording their achievements so much is guess work.
@@TheStrangerTom most sagas are written hundreds of years later. SO verified truth is hard to find. And sagas are exaggerated anyways, so not that reliable either
@@rhythmray7429 I wouldn't be so sure. I mean, the fact that they were written later doesn't in and on itself mean that they are inaccurate (they were passed down through oral tradition, after all). So the time to say they are exaggarated or incorrect comes when there is evidence for it (which of course happens). But I didn't claim the sagas were one hundred percent accurate, I just responded to the comment - the guy above said it's a pity the Vikings had habit to not leave any accounts of their exploits, which simply isn't true and I pointed it out.
@@TheStrangerTom vikings hardly did left anything by themselves. most of their records comes from the church, which they probably looted. there is a reason the common stereotype of vikings is that they love to loot, raid, pillage and kill
@@rhythmray7429 What about all the saga's? Those may have been recorded by Christian writers (though definitely not from the 'churches they looted'), but they were passed downto them through oral tradition, so they are essentially Viking (meaning Nordic, of course) creation. My point stands.
I mean if there was 2 culture that could get along back then it's Vikings and Natives. Both are pretty free spirited. That must have been an epic meeting.
So many shows about the Viking people and its culture, and that's great. But when are they making one too for the Native Americans? They have rich histories too. That would be amazing to watch.
In my opinion: By far, the indigenous peoples of America, from Canada to South America, have the most interesting culture, their story and way of life needs to be told, and told accurately on the big screen
First of all, it was a reference to "I'm a simple man." Second of all, WTF does a computer and phone have to do with being native? Sounds like you're very ignorant of who natives are today.@@iankearns774
@@lemythologia4315 No mention of naive here at all. "Simple native with a computer or mobile phone? Not really." My point was that simple natives dont have computers or phones.
@@iankearns774 Simplicity comes from balancing your 'needs' and 'wants' in life. Having a computer or a cell phone, doesnt mean you are also the type who goes clubbing every weekend and spends 75% of your income on shoes, clothes, or new cars and lives a life to impress the members of the opposite sex! Maybe it is you who needs to re-evaluate your life, my guy!
That and I also find fascinating how human minds no matter where in the world know how to make weapons like swords or bows and arrows. It is ingrained.
@@FakeAssHandsomeMcGee_ The bow and arrow and spear predate the spreading of humans across all continents. We spread roughly 70,000 - 100,000 years ago and the bow and arrow was made roughly 72,000 - 60,000 years ago.
If you read the sagas and what allegedly happened historically, the Amerindians attacked the Norse; after the Norse gifted them a bull (an animal this tribe was unfamiliar with) and the bull gored someone which they considered a bad omen.
This is common when different cultures encounter each other. Hernan Cortez, the credited conqueror of Mexico, gave a crossbow as a peace symbol to a powerful rival tribe of the Aztecs. The natives saw this as an act of war and attacked the Spaniards. Eventually they made peace and joined forces against the Aztecs.
I would trade my white privilege, my luxurious lifestyle, my wealth, my happiness And even my own life... Just to spend a day with these natives and have the honor of eating with them if I get the chance... And after that day passes, I would die happy knowing that I met the most peaceful people in history 🙂
@@KeKcP not here to disrespect... but at least im being realistic enough to acknowledge that it exists... And yes my friend.. I'm bringing it up,.... Would you have preferred if I didn't acknowledge it by not mentioning it and not say anything about it???.... Like I said, I would give everything up, my wealth, my happiness, my healthy life style... And my privilege... just to be their guest for a day... Tell me, how many rich whites do you know who would do the same? Exactly... Don't get me wrong, I do care what happened to the natives more than you know... They didn't deserve what was coming to them... And there's nothing we could do to atone or make up for what happened to them.... I hope I didn't mean to offend you my friend...
I just love how this depicts two cultures getting along without the use of words, instead sharing in common human interactions; breaking the arrow and offering it on the ground to symbolise peace, a mother of one tribe holding and comforting the child of another is a great example.
It's all so fascinating but I doubt the Vikings/Scandinavians would be acting so nice like modern people. I rather picture a bunch of naked tattooed blonde blue eyed men, completely warlike, coming to conquer, rape, pillage. That's how Vikings were described.
I just want game where you primarily play as the native in a turn based game. Cultural ties are turned into 1 state for simplicity sakes, along with using every material you can use for the soldiers to have
It’s funny how not a single person in the comment section knows that the Vikings and natives didn’t get along as well as the show showed, and they went to war over the land 😂
How is it like those white men murdering your ancestors until they were small enough to limit your country to a small piece of land called a "reservation"?
I never felt so nervous with uncertainty when I watched the scenes with Natives. This is a first contact situation, you never know you could start a war with one seemly-harmless bad gesture.
@@GAZAMAN93X I’d say, no. It’s a good movie but I don’t see how can there be a sequel. You remember the ending, the Human race defeated the Martians and they all sing with animals in the background like if it were a Disney movie. Again, it’s a good movie but it’s kind of wacky. If they make a sequel, I’ll bet they’ll make even more wacky in ways I can’t imagine.
The Native Americans were in a whole continent and we get so little of them on tv. Look how cool it would be! Not the shock of them for seeing Europeans but the shock of Europeans by interacting with them. Here in Brasil the french and native had an alliance in Rio de Janeiro, imagine how much could be written about it.
We are writing more and more history. But of they stop redoing stories there could be so much more. I also love the ancient egyptian culture. Would love to see more movies, stories as whole describing their culture.
@@thiagorodrigues5211 Hmm thats like saying aficria and europe are same contient. They are not. But all contients contect to each other in the end. Because we all belong to one planet
@@nicholerubes2959 it's like saying Britannia is not Europe because it's not connected. It's why both have America in their names. We're all americans due to that
Random but I personally think the world would be better if we didn’t live off of the fruits of native Americans suffering in the past. I wish that white people would give the country back by filling Congress with natives and making a native a president. It would be the biggest hearted thing they could do. But instead they want to hold on to what their ancestors stole.
@@sulliandwhatnot I disagree, I do think we should recognize the past and what we’ve done, I think the reservation system is terrible in most places, but I don’t think natives should be given power just by virtue of them being native. We did conquer this land after all, it isn’t theirs anymore.
My uncle used to tell me stories he was passed down by generations of the "bearded men". He said they were peaceful and we traded with them and learned to coexist with one another. Even intermarriage happened with one another, he used to tell of natives with blond and colored eyes back in the day. There's even proof of vikings making it all the way to Manitoba, the proof is stones/rocks found with viking runes card onto them
It's kinda interesting that a culture known to raid and pillage villages got along with the natives then years later a more "civilized" culture came along and raided their whole land
Well, let's see: Indications are that I have two female Native American ancestors on my father's side (about 5 and 6 generations ago; one Cherokee from Tennessee, and one Sioux from Minnesota); and, I have blue eyes, very light skin, and very-dark blonde hair; so..... [but, I identify as a PROUD *WHITE* man; not an IOTA of Indian-wannabe in me]
I don't know where this was filmed but they picked an fine spot to shoot these scenes which include many old growth trees. Such primeval forests dominated much of eastern North America at the time of course. It's nice change from filming in historically logged sites.
This series is genius, I love watching the how in the beginning of the series, the interaction between pagan Vikings and Christians, both English and Scandinavian, and this final interaction with Native Americans, just fascinating!
Living in an interconnected global world, where information is disseminated and translated at a ludicrous speeds, can you imagine what it was like for two vastly different cultures to meet like this. It must have been amazing and terrifying at the same time. Maybe its just me.
@@anativeamerican3140 it’s in the final season. The last couple episodes. It’s only like 10 minutes of screen time but they speak it on tv. Shout out from Ojibway territory brother!
@@anativeamerican3140 that’s why I wanted to watch it also. I heard they were going to be featuring a tribe and it would be a guess until it aired live on TV.
Natives: Hey guys. Let's be friends Vikings: Sure Centuries later... Natives: Hey guys, let's be friends British, Spanish and French: How does that make us any money?
Spanish weren't predators as the British, French and even Portuguese and Dutch. The Imperial Indies Laws ensured the existence of millions of Native subject during 3 centuries.
I mean they didn't have written history so not like we'll know much about them other than word of mouth from native descendants and written reports from Europeans
Actually, many of the histories of Indigenous peoples are told through oral histories. Almost no histories are written down in our culture, but are presented to us over stories that span hours, or even days. A lot of history of Indigenous people are "lost" to the history books, but are well alive in all of us today.
@@scholaroftheworldalternatehist It is crazy how you make it seem that without the books, EUROPEANS would know nothing of our history, but all you have to do is ask ANY indigenous person about history and we can share. You rely too much on the works of European men (who know nothing) instead of asking people for primary sources.
@@geoffdeputat4196 Many indigenous communities will not share their oral history and other traditions with outsiders as they view such info as sacred. I get your point, but it is not as easy as asking someone a lot of the time.
A bunch of unarmed Vikings with no shields. Riiiiiiiiiiiiight. They're not a war band, but there is zero chance they would go unarmored or without their shields.
If only the Vikings settled in huge numbers in North America, and intermarried with a lot of Native Americans, it would’ve changed the course of history. Imagine if most Native Americans have a bit of Scandinavian blood in their genes, that would make them resistant to the diseases brought by the English and Spanish in the New World. 80% of the Natives died because of smallpox alone. If that 80% didn’t perished, it will be a hell difficult for the colonists to subdue the indigenous population.
@Coco Austin but those countries did way worse to them. They enslaved the natives, killed them, kidnapped them, betrayed them, made a lot of tribes and cultures go extinct. What they did was pure evil compared to whatever the Vikings did
It would be beautiful. Big burly forest folk over 6' . It's even better the more you think: the natives are similar to people from the Far East of Siberia. The Viki from the West. It's like a coming full circle, literally. I wonder how the genes for red hair and facial hair would have played out in the mix.
So you'd rather them be living like farmers and nomads instead? They would have never advanced because they had no advantages like horses to get resources to places faster. Every nation or country mad in north america failed because they didn't have the right things to supply them and maintain them. The only reason North America is the way it is now is because of the Europeans coming in the first place. sooner or later they would be conquered it would be just a matter of time.
It's what I love Soo much about hand paintings n caves they had no concept of a mark n the dirt , but they enjoyed themselves and put it on the walls of their home's so others might experience pleasure,Than the pain it took them t put bread on the table ,All artists over the world 🌍 know this a Picture speaks a thousand words!
While a cool scene, that is not how it's recorded as going. The word Skrælings is what Vikings called Native Americans and it means Screamers. First contact was violent and while there were friendly relations eventually, the Vikings left for a multitude of reasons including the Native Tribes not getting along with the Vikings very well.
The natives were spooked by the sheep they brought one time. Screamers haha, before battle they would howl and it was terrifying. God i love native culture
@@originalgangsterloc There are actually accounts of one of, quite possible the first, time they met. Involves Vikings finding a dozen or so Native Americans hiding under a boat and then promptly killing all but one of them. The Vikings later get attacked and flee to their boats, but that's the earliest one recorded.
This is a beautiful scene in so many ways. First the shots of the nature: huge trees, the light, the strange sounds: we are in a new world. Then the tense moment of meeting, and the strong act of leadership shown by the young man who breaks the arrow. The meeting with the female leader in the tent, and she knows how to use gestures, smiles and words to defuse the situation. Finally the moments where the ice breaks: the native American woman who comforts the Viking baby and the curious girl who makes everyone laugh when she pulls on the Viking's beard. As an aside: I am a Dutch man and I once traveled in Tanzania. It seems most Tanzanians do not have as much body hair as we do. So a young girl in a bus was mighty curious about my arm hair, and she enthousiastically started pulling on it! 😂 It was the start of a great friendship for the many hours we sat together in that bus. This memory makes me love the scene with the girl and the Viking's beard even more.
I found the choice of scenery to be rather disappointing. The landscape of Newfoundland (or what the Vikings referred to as "Vinland") is absolutely nothing like this. Our trees are a fraction of the height shown in Vikings, the wind is far too harsh and rampant for them to reach such a height. It was obvious to me they just opted for a European location rather than the true place where the gathering would have happened. But other than that, the architecture and clothing are authentic to our understanding of Beothuk culture. But I tried to not let these inconsistencies distract me from feeling the curiosity and wonder of coming across a new land and people for the first time and how they would have had to work around the obvious language gap through humour and exchanging simple words.
@@nathangillingham5734 most of the show was filmed in Canada. There were sets they used not far from my hometown in northern Ontario, near the Great Lakes. It's a far cry from Newfoundland to be sure, but it wasn't Europe.
@@egobruiserrVikings, this is definitely closer to the end of the series. Its amazing if u havent watched. First season or 2 did have a tiny budget but the story is great
It never works. You meet new peoples you kill em, and kill em quick. And take thier stuff. Before they do it to you. It's the way us twisted humans are. You dont see animals treating eachother the way we do. The reason god created humans is because the earth lacked a layer of plastic.
didn't work out then either. there was no love lost between the vikings and the natives. this is revisionist history. terrible way for the series to end.
I want a series from a pre-Columbian north American perspective. It’d be difficult for cultures that had no written records, but I’m sure some tribal consultants could help make a compelling story.
Pretty sure it would show things were not all as kumbaya among the Native Americans as we are generally told. They were not one big happy family and ONE with nature!
There are lots of pre-Columbian stories. And, for that matter, there are lots of stories from prehistoric Europe that also are not turned into scripts, and I'm sure that's true of stories all around the world. I know that in Ireland and Wales the old stories are rich, some compiled over thousands of years, and full of wisdom, and I'm sure other cultures have hidden treasures of similar value. Such a waste!
@@kingforaday8725 Why do all of you, pretend to have some veil into cultures you know nothing of? When we were still treated as less than *openly* , the media in movies ONLY portrayed us as bloodthirsty savages.
@@stevonwhite8933 Right back at ya buddy!!! Why do all of you, pretend to have some veil into cultures you know nothing of? Dont know what you mean by openly???? But I agree TV and movies, mainly westerns, wrongly portrayed most Indians in that fashion. I was a kid back in the heyday of westerns in the 50s and 60s and always wondered why Indians were portrayed in that way. I believe American Indians have more of a claim to "reparations" than any other groups in this country combined!! So are you saying Native Americans didnt slaughter each other even before white folks arrived? They didn't take slaves? They didnt rape and torture? There was a slaughter of innocents of both sides and it became a tit for tat!!! Of course all sides seem to only remember the atrocities that were done to them!
Or absolute lies. Lack of information hasn’t stopped them before, nor has compelling evidence to the opposite. If it ever happens we just have to hope it’s by someone with actual passion.
Good to see indigenous people portrayed in a positive manner. So much of their culture is fascinating and not enough of it is taught in school. I live in rural Pennsylvania which is rich in history, from the Liberty Bell and founding fathers, Valley Forge, William Penns home, Gettysburg, Washingtons Crossing, and the many Inns and towns that were touched by history. Here we are blessed with the knowledge of our past, but so little Native American culture is known in spite of the fact that this part of Pennsylvania was once home to several different tribes. This depiction of history shows that in spite of our differences we can find common ground and that there is something unique about our cultures that we can share and learn from.
Spanish discovered americas not vikings or natives because they did not know where they are they did not make maps of americas they did not make it feasible but spanish did so christopher columbus was a great explorer he discovered americas
I'm Ojibwe, but my father did tell me as a child that there was a time that the ancestors had a friendship with Vikings! I always loved the idea of that and imagined all sorts of scenarios as a kid. Obviously more than just friendship transpired, given that they left eventually due to conflicts and lack of resources and who knows what else, but my dad left that bit out in favor of teaching me that cultural disparity isn't necessarily a reason for conflict (and that Christopher Columbus was depraved bigot). Seeing that idea acted out here is wonderful. This is lovely to watch.
It wasn't always conflict. The Finns were one of the last major groups to immigrate to North America and interacted with the Ojibwe to such an extent that the two groups intermarried and created the "Findians" if you will. Perhaps both peoples got along as they both share a strong oral history tradition, woodcarving, and respect for nature.
Early contact was generally peaceful however later excursions by the Vikings were hindered by combat, as some tribes were more territorial than others. But that didn’t stop some tribes still trading with the ‘men of the great water’ there’s some tribes whom still have shields and axes from their time.
It amazes me how some European groups of people were able to reach the Americas in the 10th century. 600 Years before the full colonisation of the Americas. Fascinates me even as a non-American person.
As a Native American, I’m glad to see that we are portrayed peaceful in this. Edit: Damn… I started a war… Good >:) I know that some tribes were peaceful, others weren’t and there was already war and conquest BEFORE anyone arrived. Also, y’all got trolled hard >:)
Wich is not true at all atleast for aztecs incas and more central south tribes if europe asia etc.. is despicted accuretly every culture should not sugar coat it for brown points, just like the stupid leftist who just say europe slavery, without even mentioning the fact that african rulers give the europeans those slaves selling them to europeans, or that slavery has existed for hundred of years since the ancient age but ofcourse thats not the casé
The fact that every culture in history meeting for the first time always eventually learn each other's language with literally no textbook or anything, and literally so little in common one can get shows how despite how big differences get being simply human will always be a huge frame of reference we can share.
However in any case Vikings were arrogant, impertinent and aggressive to Native Americans. Contrary to the nonsense in the video the movie "Pathfinder" is a good movie about them. Shows what nefarious slaughterers they were. They also scornfully called Native Americans "Skraelinger", which means something like "weaklings". Their pitiful settlement attempts failed because they were unable to get along peacefully with the Native Americans and because they fought among themselves. So they failed simply out of stupidity. Calling them barbarians is an insult to the barbarians! They hunted humans and were rapists, murderers and bandits. They were the worst torturers! The historical Viking sagas describe in detail the course of this ritual, an act of unprecedented cruelty. In the "blood eagle"(Blutaar) torture method, victims are kept alive throughout the ordeal while their ribs are fractured on the side of their back. The ribs were then spread apart to expose the victim's lungs. Then the two lungs were set up like wings. Therefore "blood eagle", because the sight reminded the Viking torturers of bleeding eagles. They were the worst murderers! On their raids they mercilessly murdered women and children. Prisoners were also sacrificed to their bloodthirsty god Odin. They were immeasurably greedy for prey and were ready for that to murder mercilessly. The Arab merchant Ahmad Ibn Fadlān who was with the Vikings in 922 writes about a chieftain funeral. It was a slave girl with the dead chief burned with. These killers! They also burned a dog, a horse, a cow and chickens. Before they murdered the slave girl, they raped her, and not just one bandit raped her. The whole horde raped her! The slaughtered the slave girl downright after the mass rape. Like the animals! She lay next to the body of the disgusting Chief. These barbarians, murderers! Ibn Fadlān describes the murder of the slave girl this way: Then the slave girl was pulled into the tent by an old woman named angel of death and the men started to beat on their shields with sticks. Six men entered the tent to have intercourse with the girl, after which they laid her onto her master's bed beside him. Two men grabbed her hands, and two men her wrists. The angel of death looped a rope around her neck and while two men pulled the rope, the old woman stabbed the girl between her ribs with a knife. The poor girl, the only positive she did not have to live with this scum anymore. Ibn Fadlān describes the Vikings as "perfect" physical specimens and the hygiene of the Rūsiyyah as disgusting and shameless, especially regarding to sex (which they perform openly even in groups), and considers them vulgar and unsophisticated. Each is tattooed from "the tips of his toes to his neck" with dark blue or dark green "designs". They are the filthiest of all Allah’s creatures: they do not purify themselves after excreting or urinating or wash themselves when in a state of ritual impurity after coitus and do not even wash their hands after meals. They are called by Ibn Fadlān as the dirtiest creatures of God! They are portrayed absolutely wrong in the movie "The 13th Warrior". After all as unhygenic and actually disgusting, but otherwise completely wrongly presented. The usual Viking cult, disgusting propaganda! The Vikings achieved nothing lasting other than colonizing Iceland. WOW! What a great achievement! Instead of settling in North America, these incompetent idiots settled on Greenland, where they became extinct. According to the Viking myth, they should have been the best mariners of the epoch around the year 1000 AD! Ridiculous. The Irish showed them the way to Iceland. From Iceland to Greenland lasted only a few days across the open sea. From Greenland to Newfoundland (North America), took also only a few days across the open sea. These idiots have discovered a new continent and couldn't use their knowledge for anything. In fact they prefered to settle in Greenland where they ended up starving and fleeing! The movie "Pathfinder" is the exception to the usual Viking myth. That is a good movie about them. Shows what nefarious slaughterers they were. The Vikings were definitely not the best mariners because the best mariners of that time were the Polynesians who explored the Pacific. The Vikings mostly stayed close to the coast and mainly orientated themselves on landmarks. Voyages across the open sea were the exceptions, like expeditions into unknown waters. The Vikings were in fact the opposite of the Polynesians who colonized the islands of the entire Pacific in the same epoch. For the the great Polynesians, voyages across the open sea were a matter of course like expeditions into unknown waters. Incidentally, the boats of the Polynesian were also much better suited for sailing than the boats of the Vikings, which is why the Polynesian were able to sail much longer distances than the Vikings. Which can be explained by the fact that the primitive Viking boats, actually were mainly rowing boats with only auxiliary sails, were just that were badly suited for sailing. The Drua ships of the Polynesian used to colonize the myriad of Pacific islands, on the other hand, were excellent sailing ships with superior crab claw sails that were ideally suited to sailing long distances across the open sea. So the Polynesians were the greatest mariners of this epoch around the year 1000 AD and certainly not the Vikings. The Vikings were by no means excellent fighters, as the myths say about them. They lost about 50% of their battles. That's really not an impressive record. By the way, in contrast to the Vikings, the Slavs colonized half of Europe, because the Slavs did not enslave anyone and relied on cooperation and assimilation of other peoples and not like the Vikings, where there was only violence,enslavement and enmity. Yes In fact, the Slavs did not engage in slavery. According to the 6th-century manual of war "Strategikon" by Byzantine Emperor Maurice the Slavs were a hospitable people and did not keep prisoners indefinitely "but lay down a certain period after which they can decide for themselves if they want to return to their former homelands or to stay amongst the Slavs as free men and friends." Byzantine chroniclers noted that Roman prisoners captured by the Slavs could soon become free members of Slavic society if they wished. So Slavs were the only ones who even assimilated Romans and not just captured soldiers but the population of entire conquered territories. That is why today there are very many Slavs and only very few Scandinavian descendants of the Vikings in comparison. That is why half of Europe is populated by Slavs and the descendants of the Vikings live in the same relatively small area as 1000 years ago compared to the large area of the Slavs. So Slavs were so successful in the assimilation of other peoples because they weren't as barbaric as the Vikings.
Historically no. Leif Erikkson landed in New Foudnland and tried to establish a village, the ruins are there today. this was WAY before columbus. The Indigenous peoples of North America chased him off, along with the fact that they did not know how to cultivate the land. @@adriandeltoro4640
Medieval European historian here Perhaps I am just sensitive or perhaps what I feel is what many others feel too. I can’t help but to cry seeing the laughter of peace amongst these people. No one wants war, it’s a defensive mechanism to protect ourselves and others but only the lost souls truly want it. In a world that has so much pain, so much hurt, so much violence, and so much hate, seeing two very beautiful yet different cultures collide to bring unity and peace together….regardless of religion and other differences they show we are one. How I long for this peace but knowing only after death it shall be given unto me. Haste I say. Haste I pray.
When it comes to the portrayal of the Beothuk, accuracy is incredibly difficult as these peoples have been extinct for almost 200 years. Besides a few common phrases we know absolutely nothing of their language, but there are theories that it was part of the Eastern Algonquain language group. So considering this, their choice of using the Mi'kmaq language (which is also a native language of present-day Newfoundland) made sense to accommodate this knowledge gap. When it comes to Beothuk clothing and attire the portrayal here is quite accurate. They did in fact paint their faces and bodies with red ochre as well as grease and wore clothing made of animal skin. We don't know what time of year Leif Erikson landed in Newfoundland, so their choice in choosing what is presumably summer isn't a huge issue and would most likely make sense considering the harsh conditions in the winter months which made sailing difficult. The housing looks seemingly identical to Beothuk mamateeks so props to them for that. My biggest issue in terms of accuracy has to be the landscape. The trees are WAY too tall for it to resemble anything remotely similar to Newfoundland landscape. We know from archeological discovery that the Vikings landed in the present-day Northern Peninsula of Newfoundland, meaning the terrain should be high plain plateau flatlands with incredibly eroded shorelines, which this scene is obviously lacking. They probably had their reasons to record season 6 in both Norway and Ireland instead, but I think it would have just been better to actually go to the landscape where these events took place. Other than that though, an almost precise portrayal given our current understanding.
Thanks for this info! I suppose travelling to Canada for filming a few scenes would have been an enormous production cost. I think the core of this particular scene is the people, so that's the part they needed to get right.
the actors they chose to play the Beothuk doesn't look accurate at all to me tbh. They are clearly more white than any natives from this area would have been pre-contact
@@xPOWERx-ne1jr I haven't read up on the Beothuk people at all so feel free to correct me, but your statement at least sounds inaccurate. "White" is a man made construct. There are relatively white natives of northern Africa, and if this is even further north in northern north America, then their skin tone in this portrayal absolutely makes sense to me.
What a beautiful interaction between strangers! I'd like to think this is how people greet each other after confirming the there's no threat. It should always be like this.
Despite the obvious language barriers, human nature still has it's play and curiousity sparks. To calmly show the other that a weapon is being either broken or dropped is a worldwide sign of peace. Beautiful film.
@@bunnitomoe3866 But this is a youtube comment section. 1.) Someone writes a comment. 2.) Someone corrects or argues with comment, 3.) Someone else corrects or argues with comment. Every 47 comments two commenters will show mutual agreement and not behave like pedantic little technicants. The throwing of feces is common.
In real life they did there are multiple accounts, and in an alternate reality one can imagine what would have happened if the Vikings created trade routes with the Native Americans.
Fun fact. Scandinavians and Native Americans actually share a partial common ancestor called Ancient North Eurasian or ANE. ANE ancestry is found in both groups. ANE people lived in Siberia centuries ago. The world is much smaller than we think. Cross an ocean, and still there are ties between humans, distantly so, but there.
No they don't. Only a very small amount of Sami people share that common ancestor with North Eurasians. Most Scandinavians and the Vikings are Nordic people, who are not related in any way genetically to the Sami and Siberian populations.
@@darrellm9915 Right. In Scandinavia, only the Sami people and the Finns have links with the Siberian languages (Ugro-Uralic group). Norwegians, Swedes and Danes are from the North Germanic language group
Actually, your infromation is off. The truth is that Native Americans are descended from a number of peoples. The land bridge theory is bogus. There were numerous migrations to the Americas. Hell, the Chumash themselves had to hop from island to island until reaching the mainland.
Sorry but the Japanese and Native Americans are more genetically similar than any other demographic you'll find on the planet. They split thousands of years ago.
It would be pretty cool a series about some native american tribes and civilizations series in the same way that vikings did. Aztec, Mayan and Inca stories are very rich with interesting characters like Pachacutec (the first inca to conquer land beyond Cuzco) Nezahualcoyotl (The poet warrior and philosopher king of Texcoco which biography is interesting), Axayacatl (Emperor of the aztecs that made Tenochtitlan a power in mesoamerica), Spearthrower owl (The Teotihuacan ruler who conquered the mayan lands) B'alaj Khan K'awill dinasty vs Yuknoom The Great (Two enemies that made a large war between two mayan kingdoms recordred in mayan scripts), Lady Six Sky (the warrior queen of the mayan city of Naranjo) Or Ce Acatl Quetzalcoatl (The great pacifist toltec king who ruled during a religion war between the cult of Quetzalcoatl and Tezcatlipoca)
You're totally right and the Native Americans were some of the cruelest when it came to war, so there's plenty of material there😂 The only reason they haven't is because of the names, to a broad audience the names would be difficult to remember ( That and most movies about Native Americans are very tasteless so it's a touchy subject lol)
@@legallydisabled I mean that might technically be true. We didn’t know that they declared war amongst themselves many times. Wasn’t it because history had a narrative that native Americans were peaceful. But they weren’t just pure, innocent people who never harmed each other or destroyed nature. That was a weird product of the 1960’s hippy ideology. Any who history is basically a set of socially accepted facts that are based on incomplete information. No judgement just is, but we shouldn’t think of them as like primitive people who could do no wrong and lived in harmony with nature, we shouldn’t say all their inherent traits/ cultural values were like evil or things. Does that make sense?
I would like to watch the series to show how Vikings went to Baghdad to trade their goods, and another one is how they interacted with Andalusians too.
For dramatic purposes Vikings in movies are almost always depicted as barbaric invaders. They were also nomadic traders who bridged the gaps between many cultures world wide through trading and exchange of information and technology. You can trace Viking DNA in N. America, Europe and the Middle East. They were amazing ambassadors.
@comancheVanwormerwell they sailed down the volga and dnieper and were famous for becoming the varangian guard for the byzantine emperors…..they were also somewhat involved in the arab slave trade (as much as any peoples with interactions in the middle east were)…..those are just two ways
This brings to mind how they would learn to really communicate. They could teach others basics of eachothers languages but its the babies that grow up being taught both languages that can really make true communicate possible. They would have been the ones who make communicate possible with any foreign people coming together. There's only so much adults can teach other adults about a language by pointing and gesturing while speaking.
They made do. Trials and mistakes. Trials again. In this kind of first contact situation, the two sides can only truly learn each other's language in-depth through prolonged contact.
However in any case Vikings were arrogant, impertinent and aggressive to Native Americans. Contrary to the nonsense in the video the movie "Pathfinder" is a good movie about them. Shows what nefarious slaughterers they were. They also scornfully called Native Americans "Skraelinger", which means something like "weaklings". Their pitiful settlement attempts failed because they were unable to get along peacefully with the Native Americans and because they fought among themselves. So they failed simply out of stupidity. Calling them barbarians is an insult to the barbarians! They hunted humans and were rapists, murderers and bandits. They were the worst torturers! The historical Viking sagas describe in detail the course of this ritual, an act of unprecedented cruelty. In the "blood eagle"(Blutaar) torture method, victims are kept alive throughout the ordeal while their ribs are fractured on the side of their back. The ribs were then spread apart to expose the victim's lungs. Then the two lungs were set up like wings. Therefore "blood eagle", because the sight reminded the Viking torturers of bleeding eagles. They were the worst murderers! On their raids they mercilessly murdered women and children. Prisoners were also sacrificed to their bloodthirsty god Odin. They were immeasurably greedy for prey and were ready for that to murder mercilessly. The Arab merchant Ahmad Ibn Fadlān who was with the Vikings in 922 writes about a chieftain funeral. It was a slave girl with the dead chief burned with. These killers! They also burned a dog, a horse, a cow and chickens. Before they murdered the slave girl, they raped her, and not just one bandit raped her. The whole horde raped her! The slaughtered the slave girl downright after the mass rape. Like the animals! She lay next to the body of the disgusting Chief. These barbarians, murderers! Ibn Fadlān describes the murder of the slave girl this way: Then the slave girl was pulled into the tent by an old woman named angel of death and the men started to beat on their shields with sticks. Six men entered the tent to have intercourse with the girl, after which they laid her onto her master's bed beside him. Two men grabbed her hands, and two men her wrists. The angel of death looped a rope around her neck and while two men pulled the rope, the old woman stabbed the girl between her ribs with a knife. The poor girl, the only positive she did not have to live with this scum anymore. Ibn Fadlān describes the Vikings as "perfect" physical specimens and the hygiene of the Rūsiyyah as disgusting and shameless, especially regarding to sex (which they perform openly even in groups), and considers them vulgar and unsophisticated. Each is tattooed from "the tips of his toes to his neck" with dark blue or dark green "designs". They are the filthiest of all Allah’s creatures: they do not purify themselves after excreting or urinating or wash themselves when in a state of ritual impurity after coitus and do not even wash their hands after meals. They are called by Ibn Fadlān as the dirtiest creatures of God! They are portrayed absolutely wrong in the movie "The 13th Warrior". After all as unhygenic and actually disgusting, but otherwise completely wrongly presented. The usual Viking cult, disgusting propaganda! The Vikings achieved nothing lasting other than colonizing Iceland. WOW! What a great achievement! Instead of settling in North America, these incompetent idiots settled on Greenland, where they became extinct. According to the Viking myth, they should have been the best mariners of the epoch around the year 1000 AD! Ridiculous. The Irish showed them the way to Iceland. From Iceland to Greenland lasted only a few days across the open sea. From Greenland to Newfoundland (North America), took also only a few days across the open sea. These idiots have discovered a new continent and couldn't use their knowledge for anything. In fact they prefered to settle in Greenland where they ended up starving and fleeing! The movie "Pathfinder" is the exception to the usual Viking myth. That is a good movie about them. Shows what nefarious slaughterers they were. The Vikings were definitely not the best mariners because the best mariners of that time were the Polynesians who explored the Pacific. The Vikings mostly stayed close to the coast and mainly orientated themselves on landmarks. Voyages across the open sea were the exceptions, like expeditions into unknown waters. The Vikings were in fact the opposite of the Polynesians who colonized the islands of the entire Pacific in the same epoch. For the the great Polynesians, voyages across the open sea were a matter of course like expeditions into unknown waters. Incidentally, the boats of the Polynesian were also much better suited for sailing than the boats of the Vikings, which is why the Polynesian were able to sail much longer distances than the Vikings. Which can be explained by the fact that the primitive Viking boats, actually were mainly rowing boats with only auxiliary sails, were just that were badly suited for sailing. The Drua ships of the Polynesian used to colonize the myriad of Pacific islands, on the other hand, were excellent sailing ships with superior crab claw sails that were ideally suited to sailing long distances across the open sea. So the Polynesians were the greatest mariners of this epoch around the year 1000 AD and certainly not the Vikings. The Vikings were by no means excellent fighters, as the myths say about them. They lost about 50% of their battles. That's really not an impressive record. By the way, in contrast to the Vikings, the Slavs colonized half of Europe, because the Slavs did not enslave anyone and relied on cooperation and assimilation of other peoples and not like the Vikings, where there was only violence,enslavement and enmity. Yes In fact, the Slavs did not engage in slavery. According to the 6th-century manual of war "Strategikon" by Byzantine Emperor Maurice the Slavs were a hospitable people and did not keep prisoners indefinitely "but lay down a certain period after which they can decide for themselves if they want to return to their former homelands or to stay amongst the Slavs as free men and friends." Byzantine chroniclers noted that Roman prisoners captured by the Slavs could soon become free members of Slavic society if they wished. So Slavs were the only ones who even assimilated Romans and not just captured soldiers but the population of entire conquered territories. That is why today there are very many Slavs and only very few Scandinavian descendants of the Vikings in comparison. That is why half of Europe is populated by Slavs and the descendants of the Vikings live in the same relatively small area as 1000 years ago compared to the large area of the Slavs. So Slavs were so successful in the assimilation of other peoples because they weren't as barbaric as the Vikings.
I like the way the archers don’t immediately pull back the arrows, they just aim. It feels more realistic, like aiming a gun without putting your finger on the trigger in case you slip.
Second that Native American broke that arrow in half you lost me! You know how long it would take to make one of those arrows?! how hard it is to find a straight piece of wood and then whittle that thing down to a shaft and then fit it to an arrow head perfectly.
nature doesn't make straight pieces of wood. That's why you steam it and straighten it. Yes, it's work making an arrow, but they do get broken and damaged while hunting so they are replaceable.
@@indigenoustruthspeaker3129 your native as well the mestizos are native from a different tribe who traveled further south to Mexico we are both Asians descendents of Atli our cousins are most likely siberians Mongolians and Chinese
Imagine this was a post apocalyptic world and generations of people who have been seperated by oceans finally meet each other. They are more similar than they are different.
There's a mod for Crusader Kings 2 and 3 called "After the End" that sends takes place in the Americas centuries after an apocalyptic event and technology is sent back to the dark ages. Plenty of this exact kind of interaction as both indigenous americans and vikings are on the map.
@King ForADay I was shy and afraid, I also told my mom " what those come from" why they keep bathing in the sun?" It's weird" she told me they came from the north they have no sun there that's why
Correct - and those who arrived to Northern-America where Icelandic, mostly Icelanders that had settled in Greenland. People do not seem to realize that Iceland was a commonwealth under its own rule from 930 to 1262.
@@abouttime5000 Yes!! And in sweden, iceland, finland, faroe islands. AND a little of them in Britain, which explains a little why the art in norse mythology are a little similar to the Celtic's art
This was rivetting to watch. And the body/face point of the American natives was simply beautiful: two-tone, solid markings. Part camouflauge, part personality, part geometry. It made the village look meticulous, civilized, noble, and fierce at the same time. And the detailing on the dwellings, place settings, livestock, and firepit....didnt look boy-scout rough at all: it looked like a lot care and thought went into each thing
@@erikeriks I would agree that's it's definitely unrealistic. Not since dances with wolves or Norsemen have I been convinced it's even remotely accurate pre-history. BUT....i DID enjoy the DIFFERENT angle of native american and viking. These "indians" had a different war paint and a matriarchal society. These vikings were peaceful and civilized. Usually, Indians yell and make war and Vikings are synonymous with "bezerker." It was just something I've not seen before. Similar to the movie, Prey. I didnt like it at all. BUT....i did like that the Predator movie went PRIMITIVE protagonist instead of high-tech protagonist. Aside from that....couldnt care less about the movie. WIsh I hadnt seen it. -
I love this. I am half Native American trying to learn about the culture and also a huge fan of the Vikings show. The fact that it was Ubba who met the natives first was the best possible scenario
That's extremely rare, to be half of anything, for example; it takes a full blooded native to have a child with a non native person to at least claim 1/2 status. Are you documented with a official blood quantum or are you being told that?
@@michaeljandreau7341 I'm beginning to get Klingon brow-ridges and Cardassian eye-sockets [combined-with my extremely light skin, dark-blonde hair, and blue eyes]; so, I'm starting to wonder about myself.....
