Vingegaard WAITS After Tadej Pogacar Descent Crash | Tour de France 2022 Stage 18 

El juego limpio no se mide en el hecho de esperar y de darle la mano al rival sino en el hecho de correr limpio, sin doping, y este par van cargados hasta el cuello.

@@jorgeamado4899 everyone is doping

@@jorgeamado4899 Without doping, you will never get an entertainment like this. The kind of drug they are taking is legal though so stop with the bullshit complaints.

@@jorgeamado4899 youre talking shit

@@tudidingsapparel7197 - How would you know who is taking legal vs. illegal drugs? Are you inspecting all the teams daily?

Wout's a beast, but remember last year, where he won the Ventoux stage, a TT and the sprint in paris, now that's an other worldly hattrick!

@Петро Ґ yup. Not a great team player over 18 stages.

Agreed. Sepp Kuss has been a proper soldier as well.

100%. I wonder what his total watts/kg would look like over the entire tour. Guaranteed he's put out more total power/kg than anybody else in the tour, perhaps double.

Former Danish tour winner and Team Saxobank owner texted one of the Danish commentators that WVA is so insanely good that a team should be built around him as the captain and he could win 6+ stages of the Tour easily. Jonas is lucky to have him for sure.

They've both been showing a lot of good sportsmanship to each other. It's clear that they want to win off of pure cycling, not any dirty tricks. The dirtiest thing I've seen was Vingegaard teaming up to exhaust Pogacar, but that was a part of the game, not anything underhanded. It was brutal to watch but no more than a good passing combo in a soccer game or a good hit in a football game.

100% 🤍

@@Crayshack what's dirties on teaming up to drop someone? If u think that's dirty then complain to the officials that team play is dirty, this things happens all of the time and there's not a bit of a dirt in it

@@dib487 That's what he's saying. You're putting too much in his comment.

@@dib487 I don't mean dirty as in unfair. I meant dirty more in that they were being tough on him. Might be a bit of a linguistic quirk, but to me dirty doesn't necessarily mean unsporting.

Agreed - it's wonderful to see real sportsmanship and love of racing. I'll admit to crying on several occasions this TDF. Healthy drama :)

Together those 3 have a third of the Tour stage wins and all jerseys

Agreed. This has been the best Tour in many years, and the new generation of riders is just what this beautiful sport needed!.

In today’s world of sport, that slow down move by Vingegaard after the Pogacar crash was the classiest thing I’ve seen in years! He probably would have got caught but that kid is class. Even his interviews are unassuming, honest and humble.

@@dpixvid what i really love about both of them, they can acknowledge the performances of the other without talking them down

Doping for 1 thing

@@bikes7777 When you can't accept some cyclist just are better

@@Scorpion-jv7pc of course, but given the decades long ongoing history of seeing 1 super strong rider after another get popped, can you blame me for being suspicious?

@@bikes7777Yes you can be suspicious, but you can’t accuse any rider of it. Definitely not the two best. It’s such a disgusting accusation. Innocent until proven guilty

@@bikes7777 Yes. I can blame you for peddling agitation propaganda. There is no doping regime that can be hidden while making any athlete all that much better than the next. There are no "super athlete" drug regimes. And even in the days before the extensive testing the ones that made you "super" were just as likely to kill you within a few years. The most obvious dopers of all are never even mentioned by you dogmatic critics.

@Петро Ґ ?

@Петро Ґ You're as silly as the country in your avatar.

He didn't drop pagacar

This dude is replying in every comment thread bashing Wout. Thinking that might just be MvDP's throwaway account. Jokes aside, WvA is nowhere near a "primadonna" as you keep referring to him. He's incredibly talented AND selfless. He's the only person in this race who's good enough to have a genuine chance at winning any stage he wants to.. him being that much better than everyone else and showing it doesn't make him a "primadonna".

WvA is on more 'weetabix' than the rest of the peloton combined. NOT a climber, has already solo attacked and stayed away, on his own, for hundreds of km in the tour, and on Saturday's stage, went as soon as the flag dropped, rode at such a pace (50kph) that no one else could even stay on his wheel, stayed away on his own for 20 plus km, but did that and any of his other tour exertions tire him, certainly not, got himself in every break thereafter, stayed away ALL day, dropped specialist climbers over 2 HC's and a Cat 1 and STILL had enough left in the tank to break (a by now sore and bruised) Pogacar up the last ascent as well. Riis took the piss out of the race and the field in 96 with his EPO but WvA with his 'weetabix' is taking the shit out of it/them as well.

Same and I’ve got 7 more hours of work 🥲worth it for this mornings stage though

Same

Exact same

Hahah same🫣😁

same here😂

crazy unbelievable, like a robot

Not beast mode, full on drug mode. He's ALREADY rode hundreds of km in the tour on his own, and on stage 18 went from the flag, rode at such a pace (50kph) that no one else could even stay on his wheel, stayed away on his own for 20 plus km, but did that and any of his previous tour exertions tire him, certainly not, got himself in every break thereafter, stayed away ALL day, dropped specialist climbers over 2 HC's and a Cat 1 even though he is a SPRINTER and yet STILL had enough left in the tank to break (a by now sore and bruised) Pogacar up the last ascent as well. Riis took the piss out of the race and the field in 96 with his EPO but WvA with his 'weetabix' is taking the shit out of it/them as well. Contrast that with Berg, after his Wednesday exertions for Tadej he couldn't even take the peloton's wheel at the start of the next day. Don't get me wrong, I'm under no illusions, all of the riders are on 'something', but WvA's 'weetabix' is next level stuff. If he'd been allowed to, he'd have won this tdf by hours.

@@user-ui6kv2np8i C O P I U M

it’s called doping, bro

@@bennnzzzz What you're doing is called being a sore loser.

Yeh well we can only hooe to get a rider like him more often, but this is more thr once in 50 years type of rider.

@@Draregkoeliekalie Oh absolutely, but seeing more of these multi-disciplinary cyclist will hopefully lead to riders in the same vein as Wout down the road.

@Петро Ґ No offence to Sagan, who was amazing at his peak, but he's never been close to WvA's ability

@@Draregkoeliekalie MvdP?

@Петро Ґ He was three times world champion cross cycling against MVP and is a better TT-rider and climber than Sagan.

This tour is just wout

@@vcliable WHO ?

So true, Vingegaard would have had said goodbye to him the last kilometers before the finish line no matter what! These steep Mountains belongs to Vingegaard.

There was reason in waiting, he knew Pog would come back onto his wheel and that in their ensuing duel, he could crash himself, don't forget he almost went seconds earlier. By waiting, however, he ensured his sportsmanship would be enough to neutralise any more downhill attacks and thereby ensure he himself finished the descent in 1 piece.

@@user-ui6kv2np8i blah blah blah

@@user-ui6kv2np8i Maybe you right.. But all in all that was great sportsmanship and you cant argument! All other is just suspicious..

It was a tribute to Lance and Ulrich. No one want to be a Contador.

@@cbyod 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@@cbyod Could you explain further what is meant by "being a Contador"? Genuine question coming from a newbie who started following cycling in the last couple of years.

@@cenkcidecio6840 Contador attacked andy shleck after he had problems with his chain

@@cenkcidecio6840 He did not stop/wait when he was in the same position as Vingegaard. He kept going when his rival had a mechanical failure, saying "he did not see him". That was a lie.

This is sport at its best. Both of them fighting like crazy with huge respect for each other. No matter who wins in Paris they both deserve it, and even though I'm danish, I can't help feeling a little sorry for Pog. He has fought so hard and put up such a show for us - he is a true champion. Those two guys are just amazing!

I’m 64, same interest. Though WVA has a big body fighting against gravity, he’s amazing to watch as a team-mate.

You mean 'what a drugged up athlete'. He's ALREADY rode hundreds of km in this tour on his own, and on stage 18 went from the flag, rode at such a pace (50kph) that no one else could even stay on his wheel, stayed away on his own for 20 plus km, but did that and any of his previous tour exertions tire him, certainly not, got himself in every break thereafter, stayed away ALL day, dropped specialist climbers over 2 HC's and a Cat 1 even though he is a SPRINTER and yet STILL had enough left in the tank to break (a by now sore and bruised) Pogacar up the last ascent as well. Riis took the piss out of the race and the field in 96 with his EPO but WvA with his 'weetabix' is taking the shit out of it/them as well. Contrast that with Berg, after his Wednesday exertions for Tadej he couldn't even take the peloton's wheel at the start of the next day. Don't get me wrong, I'm under no illusions, all of the riders are on 'something', but WvA's 'weetabix' is next level stuff. If he'd been allowed to, he'd have won this tdf by hours.

@@user-ui6kv2np8i You seem to know more than the drug testers, perhaps you should offer your assistance to them, rather than repeating the same baseless allegations. As you seem to know it all, could your tell me, who is riding clean this year?

Except Pogacar didn't do that when it looked like Vingegaard was going down.

@@patpat8727 Bruh. There's a difference between not crashing and crashing. Jonas didn't drop back enough to necessitate Pog waiting for him to catch up.

@@Nova-dy6fq True, but had the situation been reversed, what do you think the Pog would've done? I reckon he would've piled on the pressure. However, he may think twice if he's in a similar position in the coming days.

@@deldridg I'm not sure what he would have done. I'd like to think he would have waited but as I don't know him personally I don't think I can realistically speculate with any degree of certainty. I know he's generally well liked and respected in the peloton but that's not necessarily a predictor of behavior.

@@Nova-dy6fq Yes, true. In any case, a gesture like that of Vingegaard's raises the sportsmanship bar everywhere. Such a wonderful example, especially to younger cyclists (and other sports of course). Unlike the kind of unsporting acts we are seeing at the hands of certain individuals - ie. one Aussie tennis player in particular! Cheers from Sydney - Dave

and you believe all this he is doing EVERY day without single bad day is possible without cheating?

@@MarshallGA12 Yeah im suspicious of the motordoping

Lmao people just can’t give TJV a break on the doping/cheating thing right? WvA is a worldclass rider, probably the most versitale aswell and it’s a shame people don’t respect that. It’s not like he has never had a bad race It’s such double standards to doubt WvA but give Pog a pass who is imo the best rider atm and in the future (still so young damn). Just to clarify, I DO NOT think either of them cheat

@@landerdhaen5853 but why Van Aert was not good in mountains in 2019 and in 2020 suddenly he was great climber too?

He didn't drop Pagacar, he finished behind him.

@@timdouglas620 even him had not attack Ulrich in that situation

That is what gentlemen do.

@@timdouglas620 Contador rather

You’r so right

That was similar my take of the handshake. “Let’s both neutralise this descent before we kill ourselves, then recommence knocking lumps out of each other on the climb”.

And he had 2 teammates less than a minute back. Sitting up and waiting for Pogacar was a tactically wise move as it ultimately allowed those 2 teammates to latch back on a short while later.

Pogacar shakes his hand to thank him. Then Vingegaard asks if he's okay and Pogacar gives him the thumbs up. Anything else is just pure speculation.

@@DonGroggy fact is Pogacar didnt attack anymore after that handshake. I think it was the decisive moment.

@@DonGroggy NO

Well said - I felt ver similarly. When asked why I "waste my time watching Lycra clad men ride bicycles - it's for moments like today.

especially considering that Pogacar was going so fast in the first place to kinda provoke a mistake from Vingegaard. Had it happened, he wouldn't have waited for him

especially considering that Pogacar was going so fast in the first place to kinda provoke a mistake from Vingegaard. Had it happened, he wouldn't have waited for him

There are tons of good people - they just don't sell news as well as fx stolen elections aso...

@@GuillaumeG-oz3hz How do you know?

It's cause he's vegan.

He isn't a mountain climber and doesn't deserve the jersey. He got most of his points up small ascents or climbs near the start of the day.

@@user-ui6kv2np8i So what?

@@user-ui6kv2np8i Are you new to pro cycling? It's well known that it's not always the best climber that wins the mountains jersey. You have to be smart and plan which days you attack and when.

And some people say that vegans are weak !

But lets not hope that WVA use same methods 🫠

@@Nytaarsfyrvaerkeri That applies for all riders. Let's not hope Pogacar uses the same methods, let's not hope Sagan uses the same methods, ... There is no reason to link just 1 specific rider towards doping without any form of evidence exept the fact that he is just so incredibly good.

Pogacar tried to leave JV behind when he nearly crashed.

@@patpat8727 i dont think he noticed, as i would assume one would not dare to look back while going 60 km/h on a descent

@@srensndergaard2445 fair point.

That's because that green jersey is on more 'weetabix' than the rest of the peloton combined. Just look at yesterday. He's ALREADY rode hundreds of km in this tour on his own, and on stage 18 went from the flag, rode at such a pace (50kph) that no one else could even stay on his wheel, stayed away on his own for 20 plus km, but did that and any of his previous tour exertions tire him, certainly not, got himself in every break thereafter, stayed away ALL day, dropped specialist climbers over 2 HC's and a Cat 1 even though he is a SPRINTER and yet STILL had enough left in the tank to break (a by now sore and bruised) Pogacar up the last ascent as well. Riis took the piss out of the race and the field in 96 with his EPO but WvA with his 'weetabix' is taking the shit out of it/them as well. Contrast that with Berg, after his Wednesday exertions for Tadej he couldn't even take the peloton's wheel at the start of the next day. Don't get me wrong, I'm under no illusions, all of the riders are on 'something', but WvA's 'weetabix' is next level stuff. If he'd been allowed to, he'd have won this tdf by hours.

@@user-ui6kv2np8i At this point it's getting quite pathetic

@@Tibovl 100%. I'm under no illusions, all the riders are on something, but CLEARLY whatever mixture he's taking is next level shit.

@@user-ui6kv2np8i Then go tell the drug testers what to look for, baseless, repeated allegations don't convict.

@@user-ui6kv2np8i uhh sure mate, whatever you believe.

Thanks for showing love to Cort as well. By far the "coolest" rider in the peloton in my opinion. On the other hand, WVA showed today and throughout this tour why he is the greatest rider in the world. Vingegaard and Pog has showed us what true sportsmanship is as well as they have taught us to keep fighting for our dreams no matter how tough it might be. Incredible tour this year.

Well whos winning?

A very good one, he did well today.

I agree, a drugged up monster.

Wout is super power 🔋 💪

You must have missed last year’s Mt. Ventoux then…

@@tonyg3091 His performance was on another level, even compared to what he did on Ventoux last year. Today he didn't have a 10' lead at the start of the climb.

Eh, why ruin your quality of life and fight your genetics just so you can engineer your entire year around the TdF, only for the whole plan to fall apart because you forgot to eat one rice cake on stage 11? Wout is awesome for what he is, the most dangerous and capable rider of any team that he is on. I just don't think enough people stop to understand what it means to be a top-level GC contender in the Tour.

You mean best drugged to the eyeballs performance of his career. When this tdf is analysed, the guy's on more 'weetabix' than the rest of the peloton combined. He's ALREADY rode hundreds of km in this tour on his own, and on stage 18 went from the flag, rode at such a pace (50kph) that no one else could even stay on his wheel, stayed away on his own for 20 plus km, but did that and any of his previous tour exertions tire him, certainly not, got himself in every break thereafter, stayed away ALL day, dropped specialist climbers over 2 HC's and a Cat 1 even though he is a SPRINTER and yet STILL had enough left in the tank to break (a by now sore and bruised) Pogacar up the last ascent as well. Riis took the piss out of the race and the field in 96 with his EPO but WvA with his 'weetabix' is taking the shit out of it/them as well. Contrast that with Berg, after his Wednesday exertions for Tadej he couldn't even take the peloton's wheel at the start of the next day. Don't get me wrong, I'm under no illusions, all of the riders are on 'something', but WvA's 'weetabix' is next level stuff. If he'd been allowed to, he'd have won this tdf by hours.

@@user-ui6kv2np8i It’s actually sad how you copy-paste this shit under every comment

Would love LR to become one of the live race commentators. The current team could do with a breath of fresh air.

Include polka dot jersey..

WVA = 💉

He's a bit heavy to gun for GC. The dude's a monster but he is also tall so he cannot get so light. Good climbing perfomrances on stages for sure but he couldn't survive explosive attacks like those of Pogacar up long climbs, it is simply physics sadly

@@WesternUranus wasn’t Indurain a big guy?

@@frankburn6312 Pogacar isn't a small guy either. I don't buy that you have to be small to win. Just if you're not, you have to be damn good. But WVA is damn good. But obviously he's never going to have a chance with Jumbo Visma. But he actually gets paid the most on the team, so he may well stick with them.

@@frankburn6312 Indurain was over 80 kilos, but he outclimbed Pantani on a couple of occasions.

Not sure it's friendship. I think it's more like mutual respect and sportsmanship.

Incredible recovery! Pedal strikes are not fun.......

Yeah Jonas was lucky not to go down, It was the chain that had jumped off due to the uneven road.

or a good cheater, it looked very unnatural

@MarshallGA12 you must be fun at parties

@@harrisonroberts3402 go to watch TDF stages or other races until 2019 and you will see the difference... how they can be so much faster in last 3 years and doing much more attacks and effort every day during the stages than before?

@@MarshallGA12 how / when did he cheat?

He would have won d KOM jersey too, but he let jonas win it, because he is a good teammate.

@for the love of God not likely, not going to beat these young riders