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Virtual DJ Conclusive Test - DVS at Quartz Lock Behaviour - Issues 

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DVS & Timecode not working.
This setup uses:
Windows 11
Reloop KUT
x2 Technics 1210 MkII
Serato Timecode - 33 RPM - Side A
Dell 25" Touch Screen
Audio Setup in this example
SoundStructure C16 x2
Crown CT8150
x1 Active Sub - 800W RMS
x2 JBL Control 1
x2 Kef 6" Ceiling Speakers
Control System
AMX NX3200 using IP for DSP
MT702 Touch panel

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Комментарии : 22   
@katrinazathey6546
@katrinazathey6546 2 дня назад
I had this exact same issue with VirtualDJ DVS. I couldn't solve it and ended up migrating to Serato. I'm glad it's not just me.
@edgararanda8722
@edgararanda8722 10 дней назад
Reinventing the wheel 😂😂😂
@TimWrightDJ
@TimWrightDJ 13 дней назад
Recording ANYTHING off vinyl is never going to give you a steady grid. The platter might be turning at a perfectly constant speed during recording, but the physical properties of vinyl cause so many variables. The record is thicker in places and thinner in others. The 33/45 difference is not insignificant, you're running the needle over two difference physical mediums at different RPMs. It really doesn't prove any VDJ issues at all, it just highlights the issues with using vinyl rips.
@rafcar693
@rafcar693 10 дней назад
I wondered about the amount of drift of recorded vinyl on the 1200's so I conducted an experiment some time ago. What I did was obtain a mint copy of Richie Hawtin's Spastik and recorded it with a quality sound interface (fopcusrite Saffire Pro 40), I then loaded the recording in to one side of Serato and loaded digital copy of Spastik on the other side. From there I synced them from beat one to see how far they would play until they went off beat. The trial lasted till the 7th or 8th minute mark before there was any noticeable drift. The Playback equipment I used where 2 1200's, a Rane 56 and A Rane SL1. I later tried a similar experiment with the same track only that time I used Pioneer XDJ 1000 MK2, a 1200 and Pioneer DJM 900 NXS2. The results that time were similar.
@gavsmith1980
@gavsmith1980 12 дней назад
The quickest way to absolutely rule out it being the TTs is to swap round the channels into the mixer and see if the one previously leading the other, starts to lag behind it. Also, see if it does it with a track you didn’t rip from vinyl, try swapping TT platters, swapping needles, make sure the needle weight is identical, lots of those A/B tests 1 at a time and keep notes of which affected things and how. I do know that on Traktor for example, there’s two different DVS modes, relative and absolute, and in at least one of those, if you were already playing a digital track at, say, +1% pitch, then immediately took over control with a DVS record that was playing at 0% pitch, the track will keep playing at +1%, it’s doing an interpolation between TT pitch and the pitch the software deck was set to beforehand, which might read 0.0 but is actually slightly off 0%. The reason to also test it with non vinyl rips, is because it’s possible you ripped a track when the TT hadn’t warmed up, or was more warmed up than when you tried to play it back with DVS. In my experience it’s pretty much impossible to get anywhere near perfect results, even on quartz lock the DVS pitch fluctuates ever so slightly above and below 0%, giving an average of 0%, but it may not always average to exactly 0% on every single playback, and a needle being dragged over a tune on vinyl will have a different amount of drag than the same needle being dragged over a DVS vinyl.
@rafcar693
@rafcar693 10 дней назад
Try borrowing a 3rd 1200 from a colleague and experiment by alternating between the 3. That experiment could help eliminate any of your 1200's as the source of your problem or it may point to one of your 1200's as the problem.
@GerritTjaardAMarinus
@GerritTjaardAMarinus 14 дней назад
Virtual DJ makes a tiny Time-Shift in the last Quarter of 4 beats. its a bug in the program. You can never get 2 identical copy's using Virtual DJ software !!!
@stacychandler6511
@stacychandler6511 14 дней назад
Thats interesting. I might test that too
@rafcar693
@rafcar693 10 дней назад
That much drift is nearly impossible in absolute mode if everything is working correctly. Do you have doubles (exact same pressing) of any record? If you do, try playing them together on beat from the beginning. If you get drift too soon you have a problem with one of your decks.
@alexeneas
@alexeneas 15 дней назад
Have you had your turntables serviced? The pitch control on both turntables won't be identical, there might be a slight difference in speed, which you won't notice by looking at the dots on the platter. Plus there is a different in 45 & 33rpm...
@stacychandler6511
@stacychandler6511 14 дней назад
I didn't know that. They haven't been serviced. But, I can do the same tests using vinyl to vinyl and mixxx DVS to DVS without issues.
@alexeneas
@alexeneas 14 дней назад
@@stacychandler6511 I think you answered your own question at the end tho... It only happens with VDJ. So i believe VDJ is your problem. Could also be an issue with the pressing of the timecode vinyl, which you won't notice with DVS to DVS... I would say by looking at your turntables, they are in dire need of a service. oiling etc on your decks is definitely needed!
@stacychandler6511
@stacychandler6511 14 дней назад
Ive had them for about 25 years and they were 2nd hand then and I haven't serviced them. You're probably right though. I just haven't had time recently to take them apart and procure the parts. Both tone arm height adjustments have seized, both cue lights are gone and the pitch range is close to +16 With all that honesty out the way though, I manage to beat match by ear vinyl all day and keep it matched without any adjustments for any length of time. Currently its impossible with VDJ. I and others are convinced it's settings related. There's a few more things I need to try before I abandon this completely. I bought a reloop flux so now I can use Serato. I probably won't use VDJ anymore.
@djranx5519
@djranx5519 13 дней назад
Its just a calibration issue bro! It wouldn't stop you from manually keeping it in-the-mix if you were doing a live gig! Would it? Peace✌
@stacychandler6511
@stacychandler6511 13 дней назад
But it does. Sometimes is goes so far off I'm constantly touching the record and pitch. Basically means, I cannot focus on playing width the mixer knobs and such without constantly babysitting the pitch and platter
@djranx5519
@djranx5519 13 дней назад
@@stacychandler6511 It wouldn't be too much of a drama for pro's like myself and many others. Thats all i'm sayin dude.
@stacychandler6511
@stacychandler6511 13 дней назад
Hahahaha. Yeah, I'm more of a bedroom DJ anyway. When you're a pro u gotta play what they like. When you're like me, I play what I like
@tonygardner4077
@tonygardner4077 10 дней назад
you'll never get good measurements using tracks ... use the tools you have available eg. the serato noise map ... or get a record with a 1khz tone on it ... record that, and listen back to it from the vinyl and the recorded track... It's much easier to judge the difference with pure tones
@Jay-od3fh
@Jay-od3fh 14 дней назад
Not a fan of cleaning, yeah? Making my eye twitch seeing all that dirt and filth around your equipment.
@stacychandler6511
@stacychandler6511 14 дней назад
😂😂😂. You should should have seen behind where I was standing. It'd give you a full blown fit.
@rept1le
@rept1le 15 дней назад
Nobody cares
@stacychandler6511
@stacychandler6511 14 дней назад
This was a demo video to demonstrate issues I posted in a forum thread to help me resolve the issue. It wasn't made for you. But thanks for the engagement, you've just boosted the videos reach.
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