Vladimir Lenin and the Communist War On Religion | B2W: ZEITGEIST! I E.15 - Spring 1922 

It's too bad you never got to talk about the Rif War.

dad joke...groan, courage mes braves, don't let anyone stop you from going there!

Did the Communists try to appropriate certain customs of the Russian Orthodox Church for their own personality cults?

The Churches influence was already in decline before the 1900s, it's why the spread of witchcraft became so popular while the Church even forbid women from having divorces.

Jędrzej Śniadecki was dead by 1840.

Credit to writers too

Thanks to both of you! These videos are very much a team project. Editors should also get a special shout out.

i could really imaginate him in a tv documentary, although this channel has kinda replaced those programs

@@lubu2960 Sheesh!

When he veered off the rails with the vitamin D, I lost the plot.

And second transformation was almost as destructive as the first. Only after a 30 years of capitalism we still don't see progress, freedom, and money.

@@anthonyjameson7129 I think it's not real capitalism.

@@hoangkimviet8545 why not? I don't think we so different from Brazil, India, or Mexico - so called " developing" countries.

@@hoangkimviet8545 lmao

@@anthonyjameson7129 Because of this status, it's not real capitalism.

Looks like it's inspired by Japanese wood-prints, Monet and van Gogh. Spectacular!

With that Navy blue shirt. It really complements it

What about the .5 ?

Looking it up, it appears that he made his observations about rickets in 1822, so that's just a flub on Indy/TimeGhost's part.

Thank you for the support!

@@TimeGhost No. thank you for the awesome content throughout the past few years! I cannot describe how much I enjoy watching all of the videos you guys put out.

Heard that his cocktails were to die for

@@MorningGI0ry The finns coined the term as a piss take against him during the Winter War.

Maybe on the wwii channel

You can find photos online of him in Moscow during the Gorbachev years. Amazing...

Well, he was even Premier from 1937 to 1941, so yes, he was very influential.

I thought people can oractice religion in private? Plus theres theres the great Buddhist statues built by the gov in indo china?

@@AmanKumarPadhy Christians and muslims are being persecuted heavily in China. Bibles and Qurans are being rewritten to preach CCP doctrine.

@@AmanKumarPadhy stop simping for the CCP

​@@AmanKumarPadhy Home churches are not technically allowed. There are government sanctioned places of worship but in general you're freedom to believe is cicumscempt to a state sponsored priest or preacher and NO rights to maintain either parishioner privacy. This sounds modern and good until you remember they have prisoner reeducation camps still in operation. It isn't as though crimes are being contested by an impartial judiciary but that the narrative surrounding any and all crimes must always prop up the state, the ccp, and communism. There is no such thing as the right to freely practice your beliefs or interpreting/ learning, in an objective manner, the history of the gospels or other religions. Where we have entire schools dedicated to apologetics and history of religious beliefs in the west, such institution for any faith practice do not and cannot exsist in China. To further illustrate my point let's consider another monitheistic group,Weiger muslims. They have been unduly interred and blamed by Chinese authorities (good luck finding the actual causes) of everything from terrorism to refusing to educate their children to be "proper" Chinese citizens. (Nevermind that their school system area is massively underfunded and the people, who are unlikely to renounce their faith to join the ccp, are wholly disbarred from the type of money and educational oppourtunity through funding that state officials children have direct access to. Gaming the system, to beat out other kids in their test based university placement system means those with the most money wins) being used for organ harvesting. (Non-consensual donors) and whose children are actively being forced into schools not unlike the mission schools in the U.S and Canada. The ones who infamously broke down all family bonds, robbed parents of their children as an excuse to civilize and educate them, and then had the audacity to claim that sepating children from their parents and culture was somehow "saving "them. In a horrible way, atheist China has and will do exactly what they denigrated the major Christian religions from doing.

Either his work was published posthumously or we’ll have to report Lindy to the authorities.

Well they are the TimeGHOST Army after all...

They were found and published after his death.

@@richardkammerer2814 off to gulag

Alcohol should be illegal.

stalin was actually softer on religion than Lenin, in ww2 he brought back the orthodox church

@@ideologyideology2021 that sounds strange, I mean when it come to communism religion doesn’t come to mind. I guess religion is considered okay throughout the existence of USSR?

@@arjusarauis9901 Another way to control the masses.

@@jesuschrist872 have a drink, it'll take the edge off from that nasty crucifixion you went through.

That's a bit before our time period. We do cover Swedish politics briefly in this episode ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-SDQ56YS7Mc0.html and we likely will again at some point. Not least because it's Indy's chosen home.

I can reconmend the channel "how to drink" for your historical drinking needs

when COVID is over open an actual bar with timeghost branding

I think this would be a really good idea

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@@garrysekelli6776 he'd be cooler than Sam, Coach or Woody!

I heard he eased restrictions on faith after the opening of barberossa. But only because for much of the population the war was seen as a holy war for mother Russia and he was willing to capitalize on that. But IDK if it's true or not. The ghost of "godless communism" scare makes it hard to get a good idea of what they actually did.

Yes - during the war some of the restrictions were lifted to boost morale of soldiers (as it was mainly rural population susceptible to spiritual practics) and then it helped to get some connections with foreign powers through clerical diplomacy. There are also huge amout of legends and myths about Churches and Icons that saved people during war.

It is my understanding that after the war these restrictions were put back (but slightly less heavy)

@@ab-lymphocite5464 Khrushchev did that

@@yomama9538 Thanks for the info!

and today it's not even hated in the more atheist countries, like the Nordic countries, it's just ignored, and people who take it seriously are treated as borderline silly

@@theamici Which is even crueler, to treat the incarnation of the godman and his death and resurrection with a yawn. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-mmxGyPjM__g.html I have no experience of what the Church is like in Scandinavia, but I’ve heard that Sweden has more Latin masses than Portugal and that even though it is small it consists of people who are there because they believe. A light shining in the darkness of post Lutheran hyper materialism. Joyous Easter!

How it worked we know all too well.

Yeah, it takes on a very different tone when you actually look at the proper quote and intent.

And Hitler was a member of the Catholic Church who paid his tithe until the day he died. 😳

It was one of the few ways to get an education then in Georgia...

And Lenin is a cafe intellectual.

@@hscollier no, he did not. Hitler was an apostate.

Creme de cacao in a White Russian is brain candy.

@@moosemaimer But does it have any vitamin D?

This dude abides

The "Enlightener of the West"....I am not Orthodox, but he was indeed a light...

Lol nice

It will mention the fumbling around of humanity, in it's golden age, for trying to forge an even better future. Come now, most of the world is enjoying unrivaled progress, economic prosperity and ever greater scientific discoveries. Sure, it has it's shitty times, but anyone with a degree of history will know, we are living in the best times of human civilization. They might blame us for the problems we postponed to future, such as climate change, but todays politics, from center to the both edges, is a result of the progress we have been making over the last century. And some problems, such as racism, is from the last century we inherited and still trying to resolve. To subscribe to the idea that any age is without a problem, or perfect, is a complete folly. Human progress comes from fumbling around all the time, and by happenstance discovering something that will shape our future.

They will pity the fool...... as we do.

It was the best of times and it was the worst of times

For "дача/dacha" - vacation residence - same "cha" is pronounced as in "CHArt" or UK name "CHArles", and for name "Даша/Dasha (pet form from Дарья/Daria)" - the same "sha" as for "SHArp".

Thanks, Jeff!

Ah. Szel shock :)

I had twice Jędrzej's in my team. Both times they were called JJ. However one of them came with good suggestion. "Yen-J" - it's a bit close to Polish "Jędrzej" sound. I know Indy was living in Czech Republic so if that helps it should sound more or less like "Jendžej". Now the "Śniadecki" part. There is no "ś" in English and Czech, so I cannot help further :P

@@arti8719 Like "sh" but softer. ;)

As a non-us viewer, I really hope we don't

@@leothecat9609 as a US viewer who's favorite sport sacrificed a LOT of players in their primes for both world wars, it'd be nice to know.

@@naciremasti sure, it happened the same in the UK, Russia too... It's more that i prefer this show for stuff other than reading out sports results

more of assimilation of the church by the state

A good point and thanks for the extra clarification. Although when it's a little sidenote like this, it's okay to say it how we did. A bit like "Blake's Jerusalem", the musical setting for "And did those feet"

I know so many neckbearded virgin tankies spewing bigotry from their mom's basement.

You're welcome!

There were early speculative reports of that about Covid last April and May.

This is both true and yet partially false. Open clergy and traditional heirarchical independent bishoprics (ones not engaged with the NKVD) were shut down. The orthodox Russian Church is independent of the Holy Roman Catholic Church due to disagreements of theology from the Council of Nicea, established different theological practices. Papal infallibility, and therefore a centralized authority solely responsible to the Pope, is not a tenant of Orthodox religious practice. Each church has council with one another but doesn't supercede all canonical decisions to a Pope, only the Archbishop of the diocese. Before this, the church retained both its educational, privitized social health care role within the population. Soviet institutions would lack the internal capital and interpersonal authority to make a meaningful impact on caring for the people until after the second world war. Finally, to redress the claim of spies enervating the church, they did and they were put in place to squelch independent meetings and thought unsympathetic to or actively resistive of the deficits in communist led bureaucracy. The communist government, knowing they couldn't wholly afford to alienate the populace, made what most considered a psuedo free church. As mentioned above in the episode, they controlled speech, writing, and practice (veneration of holy relics,consecration of holy the eucharist, and other accoutrements of faith like robes,icons, ect) It is why many missionaries in the west established local evangelical efforts to provide literature and more practical parts of aide to clergy who were incarcerated or put out of work for their inability to comply with government monitoring. They did not want to become snitches on their own congregations.

@@katydid5088 That's very interesting, yes. It's also true that in England, when Henry VIII ordered the closure of monasteries, hospitals, and other Catholic institutions, that "charity in England died." Christian institutions take care of everyday people. Governments don't seem to be very good at that. Governments, however, seem to be really interested in what goes on in confession. But with them there's no absolution, only punishment.

Thanks!

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