This is a clip from the full sermon Unlocking the mysteries of Genesis | Voddie Baucham ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-WKh5TQKojWY.html ❤️❤️❤️Read this❤️❤️❤️ THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST What is the gospel? The word gospel literally means “good news” and occurs 93 times in the Bible, exclusively in the New Testament. In Greek, it is the word euaggelion, from which we get our English words evangelist, evangel, and evangelical. The gospel is, broadly speaking, the whole of Scripture; more narrowly, the gospel is the good news concerning Christ and the way of salvation. The key to understanding the gospel is to know why it’s good news. To do that, we must start with the bad news. The Old Testament Law was given to Israel during the time of Moses (Deuteronomy 5:1). The Law can be thought of as a measuring stick, and sin is anything that falls short of “perfect” according to that standard. The righteous requirement of the Law is so stringent that no human being could possibly follow it perfectly, in letter or in spirit. Despite our “goodness” or “badness” relative to each other, we are all in the same spiritual boat-we have sinned, and the punishment for sin is death, i.e. separation from God, the source of life (Romans 3:23). In order for us to go to heaven, God’s dwelling place and the realm of life and light, sin must be somehow removed or paid for. The Law established the fact that cleansing from sin can only happen through the bloody sacrifice of an innocent life (Hebrews 9:22). The gospel involves Jesus’ death on the cross as the sin offering to fulfill the Law’s righteous requirement (Romans 8:3-4; Hebrews 10:5-10). Under the Law, animal sacrifices were offered year after year as a reminder of sin and a symbol of the coming sacrifice of Christ (Hebrews 10:3-4). When Christ offered Himself at Calvary, that symbol became a reality for all who would believe (Hebrews 10:11-18). The work of atonement is finished now, and that’s good news. The gospel also involves Jesus’ resurrection on the third day. “He was delivered over to death for our sins and was raised to life for our justification” (Romans 4:25). The fact that Jesus conquered sin and death (sin’s penalty) is good news, indeed. The fact that He offers to share that victory with us is the greatest news of all (John 14:19). The elements of the gospel are clearly stated in 1 Corinthians 15:3-6, a key passage concerning the good news of God: “For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, and that he appeared to Cephas, and then to the Twelve. After that, he appeared to more than five hundred of the brothers and sisters at the same time, most of whom are still living.” Notice, first, that Paul “received” the gospel and then “passed it on”; this is a divine message, not a man-made invention. Second, the gospel is “of first importance.” Everywhere the apostles went, they preached the crucifixion and resurrection of Christ. Third, the message of the gospel is accompanied by proofs: Christ died for our sins (proved by His burial), and He rose again the third day (proved by the eyewitnesses). Fourth, all this was done “according to the Scriptures”; the theme of the whole Bible is the salvation of mankind through Christ. The Bible is the gospel. “I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God that brings salvation to everyone who believes: first to the Jew, then to the Gentile” (Romans 1:16). The gospel is a bold message, and we are not ashamed of proclaiming it. It is a powerful message, because it is God’s good news. It is a saving message, the only thing that can truly reform the human heart. It is a universal message, for Jews and Gentiles both. And the gospel is received by faith; salvation is the gift of God (Ephesians 2:8-9). The gospel is the good news that God loves the world enough to give His only Son to die for our sin (John 3:16). The gospel is good news because our salvation and eternal life and home in heaven are guaranteed through Christ (John 14:1-4). “He has given us new birth into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, and into an inheritance that can never perish, spoil or fade. This inheritance is kept in heaven for you” (1 Peter 1:3-4). The gospel is good news when we understand that we do not (and cannot) earn our salvation; the work of redemption and justification is complete, having been finished on the cross (John 19:30). Jesus is the propitiation for our sins (1 John 2:2). The gospel is the good news that we, who were once enemies of God, have been reconciled by the blood of Christ and adopted into the family of God (Romans 5:10; John 1:12). “See what great love the Father has lavished on us, that we should be called children of God! And that is what we are!” (1 John 3:1). The gospel is the good news that “there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus” (Romans 8:1). To reject the gospel is to embrace the bad news. Condemnation before God is the result of a lack of faith in the Son of God, God’s only provision for salvation. “For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son” (John 3:17-18). God has given a doomed world good news: the Gospel of Jesus Christ! The Gospel, only bible verses. heartcrymissionary.com/books/the-gospel-of-jesus-christ-tract/
I know what a idiot. I DONT CARE ABOUT THIS! I personally don’t believe in god, but if I did I would not care about what others think about me being gay. GET THE F OVER IT! SOME PEOPLE ARE GAY, LIKE ME I AM A GIRL WHO LOVES GIRLS AND YALL CANT CHANGE THAT FACT! I wish y’all would learn to love someone for who they are, we were born like this it isn’t a choice
Tell me about it. Talking about gods commandments. They always seem to miss the parts where he orders genocide or just strait up does it himself. Or the bits where he tells men to kill the men and children except the women and girls, then can get all slave rapey with them.
How do you know you're following god and not just another false prophet? And if the world is against you, then you might consider this. "If everyone you meet is an a$$hole, then it's very possible that you're the a$$hole and not everyone else."
Truth sometimes can burn some people's way of thinking and provide dignity. I hate how the word "pride" has become cursed.. i never really liked rainbows but now, i hate the meaning (human society meaning, in reality its light in a weather phenomenon)
@@iacoponefurio1915 Love is not perverted sex, you're the one who brought that up. I don't know why you don't know this already but Love and sex are different. And if you actually look again at Romans 1 you'll notice that it's describing a pagan sex cult. There is some gay sex but if the men are having natural relations with women they're not gay. And it definitely never mentions homosexuality, that's a different concept.
@@Grokfordok your right the bible never mentioned homosexuality it mentioned sodomites. Let's go back to Greek. Oh wait sodomites means man on man intercourse😂
can any of you say homosexuality is wrong without bringing religion in? I'm curious. EDIT: You guys cant grasp the the idea that not everyone is gonna be gay and no one is gonna turn you gay to end the human race chill LMFAOO.
It’s not religion … it’s the True Living Word ! But here you go , If you put 20 men on a island and let them live out there lives without woman on it. Guess what happens…. There won’t be no children to live on .
@@ShoJubuz it's natural because it happens?? not just our species but others too. not to mention other sexualities that have been in nature for eons. pull up on some biology and you'll learn about it. the only unnatural thing is homophobia because no other species gives a damn.
@@infinite4809He’s Not lying The rainbow is not gay or lesbian it’s gods promise not to flood the earth again so he’s achaully right the rainbow is gods promise
I’m gay and also Christian, and it’s cool to see your comment. I don’t get how I was already born a sin and can’t be a part of God’s kingdom for just being the way he made me.
@G e r r a The reality is, the Bible doesn’t answer every question 100% clearly. In the video he made good points, but there are also so many times where God professes his limitless and unconditional love for us saying he is for us not against us and loads of verses telling us to love like God. The Bible can be misinterpreted, but it’s made pretty clear that God is our father who loves all of us the same. I’ve been told that when we get to Heaven, we may be surprised by some of the people we see there.
@@cashewphoenix2158 this!! People want to use any verse they see as evidence but really, who knows? The Bible has been translated time and time again and that leads to a lot of misinterpretation.
I love it when I come across videos like these! The world is so messed up and people’s minds are so clouded by their sin that it’s hard to find people who are actually speaking truth and sense ❤
One night a man hada dream. He was walking along the beach with the Lord. Across the sky flashed scenes from his life. For each scene, he noticed two sets of footprints in the sand; one belonged to him, the other to the Lord. At the lowest and saddest times in his life he noticed there was only one set of footprints. He questioned the Lord about it. "Lord, you promised to be with mealways. But during the most troublesome times in my life, there is only one set of footprints, I don't understand why when I needed you most you would leave me." The Lord replied, "I love you and would never leave you. During your times of trial and suffering, when you see only one set of footprints, it was then that I carried you,"
Honestly. And people think they're doing the right thing by saying this. The best thing they can do if they don't support it is to leave the community alone. They're going through too much already as a minority.
@@evanr5871 to be homophobic means to be afraid of homosexuals, which most people aren't. Vast majority of people wouldn't care what yall did if you didn't shove it down our throats
@@davidnewhart2533 Feel free to reference my previous comments if you feel like making ignorant statements. .... 1. "It's a violation of the created order" False, homosexuality is a part of the created order, it is a part of thousands of animals species and exists in ever recorded period of history and in all societies(Homophobic societies being the outlier). While it is may be true that homosexuality didn't exist in the garden, neither did cities, or children. This does not make them a moral evil. 1.b "It's not how we were made" It certainly is how some people are made. "unnatural desire is a contradiction in terms" 2. "It denounces procreation categorically" First of all, no. The lack of ability to procreate or the choice not to is not a total rejection of procreation as a concept. But even supposing that it were. simply.. not reproducing is not a crime, a sin or even a problem in most cases. Jesus, the perfect man, had no children. Neither did Paul or a great many other important figures in scripture and church history. Furthermore, many Queer people are able, willing and in fact eager to raise children. Many do so via adoption(which certain Christians oppose despite the supposed moral necessity of having children) but others have their own biological children, usually through a donor relative. Though of course technology already exists to produce gametes from genetic samples, being essentially a cure for infertility and a solution to this apparently oh so important issue of Queer childlessness. 3. "It blasphemes the illustration" This sounds like the first point but in stronger terms; stronger terms which are even more easy to discount. God is a God of Love(1 John 4:8) how then is Love, a thing against which there is no law(Galatians 5:22-23) a blasphemy against his "illustration"? What is this illustration anyways? It sounds like a convenient construct that you get to decide the bounds of. 3.b "This is especially true when we understand the illustration of Christ and his bride the church" That's not really an illustration as much as it is an analogy. If you take it literally that just means that Christ is going to be marrying lots of people(male and female) or Christ is going to be marrying an abstract concept which has no gender. Either way gender seems rather irrelevant here. 4. "It denies the very need for sanctification" This is just made up. Nowhere in any mainstream understanding of same-sex orientations or Love does anyon make the claim that it makes them perfect. Queer people need to repent just as much as straight people it's just that their Love is not something to repent of. Queer Christians can and do exist. 4.c "God calls this an abomination" No, patently false. Homosexuality is never mentioned in scripture, only homoeroticism. And the passage you are referring to is from Levitical Law, which Christians do not follow. Even if that weren't the case the passages (Leviticus 18:22 & 20:13) are dubiously translated at best. And even if we took them at their English version of face value it doesn't prohbit homosexuality, it doesn't even prohibit all types of homoeroticism. So we're several layers deep into absurdities. 5. "It is the only sin... for which God destroyed cities with fire and brimstone" That is not in scripture. We know nothing of the day to day events of Gomorrah and both cities were condemned before the angels even arrived(Genesis 18). What's more nothing homosexual occurred. There was an attempted gang rape(likely xenophobic in nature) against two non-male angels. Even if they had been successful you can't make angels conform to human genders and you can't make condemntation of gang rape into a commentary on gender. It just doesn't work that way. The closest possible reference to this event outside of Genesis is Jude 1:7 which describes a part of their sin(there were many sins associated with the cities) as pursuing "strange flesh" or in the Greek "heteras sarkos", heteras here meaning different or opposite; it also sharing its root with heterosexual. So in reality, if this is a commentary on the attempted rape after all, the problem was not the similarities between the two parties but their differences. 5.b "It's unique, it's not like other sins." Pure speculation, even if homosexuality were a sin its far from the only sin of Sodom and Gomorrah, but I find it very interesting that you're saying that homosexuality is worse than rape and that is is a sin that surpasses the sufficiency of grace.. which is a biblical heresy.. Seems like an odd choice. 5.c "Not all sins are called abominations" Actually nothing in the Bible is called an "abomination" that translation has been inaccurate for centuries due to linguistic drift. However if you want to compare homosexuality(actually not homosexuality but perhaps a specific type of homoeroticism) to other things mentioned with that same word you'd have to include: Hebrews and Egyptians eating together(Genesis 43:32) Looting a conquered city(Deuteronomy 7:25) Sacrificing an imperfect animals(Deuteronomy 17:1) Marrying again if your first wife is divorced or widowed from another man(Deuteronomy 24:4) Dishonest measurments(Deuteronomy 25:16) Intercultural marriage?(Ezra 9:1) Lying(Proverbs 12:22) Scoffers(Proverbs 24:9) I don't think that the Hebrew word here is as siginificant as you might think, tha's probably why it's been corrected in English translations for the better part of a century. .... Nothing in this video is stated in the Bible it's barely influenced by the Bible. It's not even misunderstanding it's personal rhetoric.
@@Grokfordeveryone who reads the bible and is an actual Christian knows Voddie is true and accurate. Romans 1 God has given you over to your despicable unclean lust
@@Grokfordyou are an evil liar destined for hell unless God turns you from the dishonest fake path you are on. Defiling yourself and claiming day is night 🙄
Have you ever lied, looked with lust, used God's name in vain, or stolen? You are guilty of breaking God's law and sentenced to Hell. Repent of every sin the bible names and put your faith in Christ for salvation and eternal life!
“There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.” (Galatians 3:28) “God has shown me that I should not call anyone impure or unclean.” (Acts 10:28) before spreading discriminatory rhetoric and preaching onto others hate and falseness, consider God’s message to all christian’s and how he believes we should act to others. The natural order you speak of you would break regularly, you are quick to condemn homosexuality yet if a slate was blown off of a house to hit someone on the head you would call out to them to move even though the natural order would be for them to endure that pain.
@@Momonga32 In the American Standard Version and the NIV, Leviticus 18. 20 is about "unlawful" sexual relations, just sayin'. Still, I don't want to seem critical of your opinion, after all one could still cite Leviticus 18. 22 (New Living Translation), where homosexuality is referred to as a sin.
@@Momonga32 from the looks of your profile and instagram you seem quite prideful of your physical attributes so to quote 1 Timothy 4:8 “For physical exercise is of limited value, but godliness is valuable in every way, holding promise for the present life and for the one to come.” practice having godly and loving values towards others as shown in the new testament rather than the more objective old testament in which leviticus resides in. Gods law changes as does the time. further supporting this in the 10 commandments adultery is seen as a sin yet in John 8 jesus prevents the stoning of a prostitute and as son of God and the messiah surely he is not wrong?
@@karime3295 Read my Bible, Got a degree in it, this man is speaking pure nonsense. There is no “illustration” of human sexuality there is nothing necessary about procreation and treating the metaphor of the church as Bride as literal is ridiculous especially when you’re arguing against polygamy and same-sex relationships
@@Grokford it's funny because the bible says that the church is the bride of christ so there is nothing ridicules,this dogma is part of the christinan faith and it proves that you are lying
Never does the Bible state that cities were destroyed because of the practice of homosexuality. Not once. Go read the Bible. The prophet Ezekiel states exactly why Sodom was destroyed in 16:49, 50 “Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.” Weird. Not even a mention of homosexuality. Proverbs 6, however, contains a list of things God hates. Homosexuality is not listed, but a lying tongue is. So, maybe stop lying about what the Bible says.
This is probably the only Voddie Bauchman video I've seen that has a lot of unbelievers in the comment section. That's good news. A lot of people here will definitely get angry. But may God have mercy that their ears may be opened by God.. No truth is pleasant at the beginning, but it will set you free. The world hated Jesus Christ first and so His followers will too be hated.
1. Violation of the created order - it's not how we were made 2. Denounces procreation, categorically 3. It blasphemes the illustration. Especially true with Christ and His bride the church. 4. It denies the very need for sanctification when God calls it an abomination and we call it righteous.
@@victormsika1538 I am a Christian and I have a degree in Biblical studies. But apart from the fact that he mostly doesn't reference scripture, he also uses a lot of rhetorical fluff that means nothing/ Let's look at some of his claims: "Violation of the created order" According to whom? Who decides what the created order even is, and who decides what constitutes a "violation". Nature is not a legal code, you don't violate anyone or anything by being different. "it's not how we were made " This is purely opinion, but even if it were true so what? We weren't made to wear clothes either. Our tongue wasn't made to lick envelopes but we do. This is speculative and irrelevant. "Denounces procreation, categorically" Being unable to procreate is not the same thing as rejecting it, that's stupid. The elderly are not "denouncing" acrobatics, they just can't do it. And this is especially ridiculous because some Queer couples can have their own biological children and many more want to. Meanwhile many people knowingly enter long-term monogamous relationships with people that they know are infertile. They're not denouncing procreation, they're just no prioritizing it. and "categorically" is just one of those words that makes something sound stronger without actually meaning anything. "It blasphemes the illustration." How is "Blaspheming" any different from "violating" and how is "illustration" anything but a poetic term for a created order? He's repeating himself. Better yet, how is this claim any more relevant or less subjective than the previous. "Especially true with Christ and His bride the church. " This is irrelevant. The Church is not a female and the marriage is not literal. If the marriage were literal than Jesus would be marrying millions of people, many of whom are not female either. It does not make any sense in this conversation. "It denies the very need for sanctification" Denying that something in particular is a sin(i.e. dancing, cards, women wearing pants) is not remotely the same as denying the concept of sin in general. This point is stupid or dishonest. "when God calls it an abomination and we call it righteous." This is untrue, "abomination" itself is a mistranslation, and in case the Bible never mentions homosexuality, it only briefly mentions male-male sexuality, and never with a universal condemnation. Meanwhile Love is defined stated to be a fruit of the spirit(Galatians 5:22-23) and the nature of God(1 John 4:8). Love is a moral good above reproach, to defend that fact is not a denial of the gospel and it's dishonest to imply otherwise.
Voddie Baucham hits the nail on the head every time! He so brave and courageous to be so obedient! I love him, I love Christ that I see in him! I wish all of our pastors and preachers were just like him. Thank you Father God for doing your good work through Voddie Baucham!
1. Violation of created order 2. Denounces procreation 3. Disregards illustrations 4. Denies sanctification Interesting argument from the church as a unique abomination. The one that sticks out most is denying sanctification seems to be the only one that political space for debate. Denying the need to seek a morally approval lifestyle leads to societal withering.
"Am I now trying to win the approval of human beings, or of God? Or am I trying to please people? If I were still trying to please people, I would not be a servant of Christ." Galatians 1:10
The bible is a massive gay story book based on two men named Adam and Steve, they tried procreating it didn’t work so a woman was made just for a kid then Adam can go back to Steve. On the other hand Eve started to feel lonely so God made Eve a lady friend named Stacey and life’s been one big orgy story since. Then Jesus was gay as he had no children and had not had sex with women so he knew he didn’t have much to live for he then died for us and 2000 years on and we are doing him proud
You’re such a greatest liar. Even the devil will be shocked with what you’re saying 😂😂😂. In the garden of Eden there was a man and a woman called Adam and Eve. And Jesus was never gay. You’re such a blasphemer and you’ll never get away with it
You see, God did not create homosexuality. Sin did. Sin comes from Satan, the incarnation of evil itself. God fights Satan's creation by sending out preachers like this. Hope this helps ❤
@@Grokford Nope, penguins did not stumble upon original sin. That is simply nature. Are you assuming that we humans also have to lay eggs, such as penguins do?
@@RavanoxYT It’s a comparison, we can talk about Bonobos if you prefer. They live in bisexual polygamous groups(which wouldn’t be the worst thing) but that’s not the point, the point is that nature is a part of God’s design no matter how fallen. And homosexuality exists in nearly every social species and then some, you might be able to attribute that to some sort of corruption but how would that account for things inherent to a species survival? The idea that pre-marital sex is a sin means that all sexual species are in a constant state of sin because there is no marriage. Bees have three sexes, some mushrooms have hundreds, some lizards, fish and insects have only one. Meanwhile many species switch sex at various points in their lives. These are all things that not only occur, but are necessary for the world to be. Which either means that some evil has denatured creation to such a point where these creatures aren’t even the same thing anymore or God had planned for it all along. If this world is fundamentally altered by evil then we owe it no loyalty, And if God built something into the world, it can not be an inherent evil. Queer people exist, they have always existed, this is not some bug, it’s a part of this world.
@@Grokford My problem is not with homosexuality as a whole, it's about going against nature. You mentioned animals in nature that use homosexuality only for survival, which is understandable as it's God's design. God's design for humans according to anatomy is male and female. Cant do anything about that. Let's also talk about your point on pre marital sex. We have this rule in order to make sure that both adults will love each other for the rest of their life, and not just have sex and leave the baby and the mother behind. This rule keeps us from lusting, it's not officially in the Bible but the Bible does state that if your hand caused you to sin, cut it off, which is what that rule does.
@@Glotch Focusing on yourself is the best thing you can do because offending an entire community and giving reasons why they shouldn't exist when God made us for a reason is wrong on so many levels.
@@Gillybeanx I don’t think you understand, your life is not yours, literally. It was bought and paid for at a price. Someone had to put in the work to make you, and that someone is God. You owe him everything, your servitude, your attention, everything. And he has rules for you to follow, and if you don’t follow them, then you will be in hell for eternity. And no one is coming to help you at that point. So repent NOW before it’s too late.
@@Gillybeanx Nobody said they shouldn’t exist, they said they shouldn’t act like they do (in rebellion against the Most High.) God made us all for a purpose, but as Romans 9 says, the end purpose for some is to be destroyed in judgement.
@ThiccBaby I don't follow the world blindly I use my common fucking sense, I don't do drugs, I don't smoke anything, don't drink, all that is nasty to me and you think everyone who doesn't follow god is bound to go down that path? All I wanna do is live a quiet life with a wife and take care of cats.
@@watamelyn hahahaha funny, tho living without God or believing him is like driving a car without fuel. Your life is good but would be even more better if you taste on christ love , there is the way you feel so live. Even when the world puts u down u feel more powerful than the world. There's something special in christ my friend, am telling you.✌️
Who is speaking? Where are they speaking? When is this taking place? What are they talking about? How does this apply to me? Why is this important? #context
True love is love, but loving stealing because you enjoy doing it doesn't make it ryt, and being told by someone that it's not good to steal it's not judging the thief, it's just saying that's not good.
@@Captaindmitri no one is forcing religion on to you 😂 this is a Voddie Baucham sermon. This is a Christian video 😂😂 repent for the kingdom of Christ is at hand
Homosexuality has been a thing before the Bible was created. One might think that the religion itself was created to make it sinful among other things.
@@BJORN-rx4jz bro god literally has my back all the way if God is real then I was meant for this world no matter is qualified to be god's speaker then me
My thing is nobody literally chooses to be gay or queer it literally how u feel just like another str8 person feels a connection to the opposite sex if I could choose to be straight I totally will cause being told I’m an abomination is something I did not choose or ask for why can’t Christian’s se that? It not going against God cause it not anyone intention to offend him over something u can’t change what literally within u
So I guess the same goes for serial killers? They didnt chose to be that way so I guess for them killing is righteous? He is only speaking the truth. Whether Christian or not.
@@peytonmiller4061 you can't compare those two things sexuality isn't chosen whereas serial killers have a number of other built up issues just accept people for who they are stop saying what someone is as "wrong" because they aren't wrong your just ignorant
@@peytonmiller4061 literally no. people choose to kill someone they don’t choose to be gay they just are. And how dare you put homosexuality on the same level as serial killing. Like we are not hurting anyone just leave us be
@@peytonmiller4061 comparing serial killers to being gay is just far fetch and not even accurate u can litterally choose to not take someone life but u can’t control who u love and what ur heart has a genuine connection for
This guy: "It blasphemes the illustration of Christ and his bride the church." Me: sure but the church is ran by the pope and more often then not the pope is male, meaning the pope would be Christ's husband and as Christ is male that is a homosexual relationship.
When the bible says "Love the Lord", it doesn't mean it in a lustful or a husband sort of way. It means love him as if he is a shepherd and your the sheep.
@@funnemonke2 The one where drag queens & Essex Ken dolls are given the status of the biggest role models in the common media for our children to learn off, normal people have been bought & bullied out of having a voice, they want humanity to destroy itself because their the ones profiting the most from it.
Because the woke agenda is contaminating this world with its poison. But I have hopes that every single person with this ideology gets saved one day and comes to salvage Jesus Christ.
@ shènɡ jīnɡ If to sin is to consciously inflict harm on others and to harm ourselves, then we can affirm that homosexuality is no sin, because when lived with love it harms no one. The sin is homophobia, because to discriminate, reject, scorn, disdain, hate, and even go so far as to kill is to harm and harm greatly. To discriminate against another human being, created by God and loved by God, for being the way they are, for feeling what they feel, is a sin.
@ shènɡ jīnɡ People who believe that everything those ancient Biblical texts say is the mandate of God and for that reason we must reject homosexuals and homosexuality should also, for example, forbid women who are menstruating to enter a church or the site of a religious celebration, because that’s also prescribed in Leviticus. Why do we no longer do this, although it’s written in the Bible? Because we also realize that the norm is outmoded, ancient, the expression of a culture we’ve moved beyond, and which distorted women’s privacy and negated their human rights.
@ shènɡ jīnɡ murder is wrong because their's a victim involved. Homosexuality is not a disease, it's not a choice and it doesn't harm anybody if it's in a consentual, adult relationship, so why would god be homophobic? If you are born homosexual, why would god wants you to be alone for your whole life or live a life of deception? Homosexual persons are persecuted and surpressed in a lot of places, the church shouldn't be such a place!
The Definition of the word 'Natural': existing in or derived from nature; not made or caused by humankind. Homosexuality isn't a choice though and it does occur in nature, so therefore is natural.
I keep seeing people in the comments that are not Christian and do not agree what so ever with this video and are just going around arguing with other people about how the video is wrong. People! If you hate this so much then why are you staying here complaining about it? It is ok state your mind but some of these people are just arguing and complaining when it is weird that they watched the video in the first place. Feel free to explain why you are here.
I can only agree whole heartily with what he preached but my interest as well with those who at this writing have given it a "thumbs down". It is much higher that the like and old airman say “If you’re taking flak, you’re over the target.” Voddie was over the target.
I thought Christianity was just loving each other no matter what but then this happens💀 Edit:guys I’m trying to say this in the nicest way possible but no one asked abt ur bible study 😀 Edit2: I understand that y’all are fine with the sinner but not the sin itself. I’m not even super religious and don’t rlly believe in god or anything and Ik what y’all are gonna say “if you don’t believe in god then you’re going to hell!!!” But Idc abt stuff I don’t believe in. Sorry if this offends anyone.
The difference is we don’t hate the sinner, we hate the sin. John chapter 4 verse 20 says “If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?” We are all sinners and we all need to be saved. Romans says the wages of sin is death. We live in total depravity in today’s society. John 3:16 “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” Jesus said “I am the way, the truth, and the life. There is no way unto the father but only through me” repent for your sins for the kingdom of god is at hand.
@@followerofjesuschrist4530 God is dead. Just on the bychance he was real he committed so many murders. Killed the entire world for doing too many bad things. Because people made a golden calf he killed 3000 of them and then had Moses melt the golden calf and had people drink it
We do, but there's a difference between love and approval. A good parent loves their child no matter what, but will not always approve of their behavior (temper tantrums, stealing, bullying others, etc). There seems to be this idea that love and kindness is always nice. It's not. Let's say you have a friend that started to lose so much weight that they look like a walking skeleton and they comment to you one day that they still have weight to lose, would you pat them on the back and encourage them, or would you tell them that they need help, that they're killing themselves? Love tells you what you need to hear, it builds up. Niceness tells you what you want to hear, it's a poor imitation of love, it can't build up, it can only puff up. As Christ followers we would be lying if we said God approves of homosexuality, we would be telling you what you want to hear, we would be patting you on the back as you wither away. We love you and we want you to live and to know a peace and comfort that's, quite frankly, indescribable. It's so beautiful. That's why actual Christians, not those who say they are but act otherwise, say and stand by what this video says. It's biblical, from Old Testament to New Testament. But we can't and don't want to force it on you, it's your decision, and while we can accept your decisions, we can't always approve of them. We still love you though.
@@AbtTensho why are you arguing about this all this stuff was made thousands of years ago you think the same laws and principles apply to people in 2022 just because the Bible says this does not matter if God cared he would eliminate every thought of even being gay from entering people's minds that is if he is even real.
@@Davidmar92 Not really, there are many non religious spaces in the wolrd where people actually have lives of their own to take care of instead of thinking about gay people.
@@Davidmar92 And hereis the thing your whole argument only makes any sense if I believe in the same god as you do, and I don't. So I don't really care how you think you imaginary pal "made marrige" because I will not play pretend with you, wether you like it or not.
@@RavanoxYTIt is, because your desire to "save" them comes from a narcisistic belief that you are better and more "saved" than other people just because of your religion. I know you try to tell people you love them, but your "love" is toxic and deceitful.
@@pedrofernandes2466 No, this isnt narcissistic. In fact, atheists are narcissistic because they make themselves the own God of their life, meaning they have no rules and are only bound to the laws of Earth: and the laws of Earth almost always originate from God and his people.
@@pedrofernandes2466 Our love sint toxic and deceitful, explain to me how trying to guide people to the right path, being completely kind to them, and not doing anything wrong to them is toxicity and lying.
Christians just love to look at the parts of the Bible that make them feel good and forget about the parts that talk about loving and not judging others
If you’re referring to “love thy neighbor as you do thyself” it is a part of Leviticus. And Leviticus 18:22 says “when man lies with man as he does with a woman, it is an abomination” so please just read the Bible in its entirety before speaking on it like you are well versed. Clearly you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about
The funny thing about the three of you quoting the Bible is that it's been mistranslated several times. Oh and if some scrolls are to be believed it's also about tripping on drugs so there's that.
I am not gay myself but I have many friends who are they think about killing themselves. Because people always tell them that they're going to hell. That is not cool. God loves everybody and you all forget that and I don't know why.
@Martian_XX Yes, idk anything. I am a dumb 14 yo ik that, but I also know that people are nice if you are nice to them first, and it's awful to see people who are gay. Just getting hated on for no reason.
God loves everyone, you're right. But he loves serial killers. Serial killers go against his word, and his laws,but he still loves them. Does that mean serial killers go to Heaven?
@@RavanoxYT no atleast i hope they dont but, i am saying dont be mean to gay people cuz as a person most of them are nice now you should be nice to everyone but we are all human so we dont
@@guitarsquad5428 we aren't being mean. We are saying they will go to hell, just as murderers do because both murderers and gay people don't follow Gods word. We are simply telling them that we want them to go to Heaven and live with God and all their loved ones in peace. Is that hate?
@@au8363 I wish I was Jesus back in those days I would silence all those who opposed me I would be the king and use my power to help the people of the world instead of dying for the sins of others I would destroy those who were trying to kill me and become the ruler of everything
Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God. “All things are lawful for me,” but not all things are helpful. “All things are lawful for me,” but I will not be dominated by anything. 1 Corinthians 6:9-12 ESV
Ah yea the righteous God, the jealous, genocidal, rape condoning, slavery ridden, psychopathically righteous God. Sure let's all take a morality lesson from a genocidal maniac.
@Fisher of Men Ministries so 2 thing, 1 the new text talks only about man homosexuality so women are allowed, 2 this is a new English mistranslation done by a homophobe, the first one talks about Sodoma, that if you don't know, wasn't destroyed for just homosexuality but because it was a city devoted to in general, in fact very few people were homosexual in those city, but if you think that they deserved it than I think you also think that giving away your daughters to be raped and than making incest is a good thing, since it's what lot did
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Aye I do believe both! Maybe I was born gay, or maybe I chose to be gay… But it’s not the same “choosing” you’re all thinking about. Here it is…I CHOOSE to be honest and real with myself today! I CHOOSE to not lie and hide myself from my truth for others to be comfortable around me! I CHOOSE to surround myself with people who accept me as a HUMAN being and can see my TRUTH! I CHOOSE HONESTY AND REALNESS!!! People just can’t allow themselves to look around and accept people for who they are. You don’t have to like what I do in life, but you don’t get to dictate what I should or shouldn’t do…that is judgement and not your place. So step aside my brothers and sisters and let God do His handiwork and stop trying to control the wonderful world He’s made for us and the wonderful people in it!!! FOR GODS SAKE!!!
@bobbychika-ezeagu9531 No. I don't have to support bad theology just because they claim to be basing their ideas off the same book. I'm not going to accept pro-slavery, anti-women theology just because it comes with a Christian label. That's demented.
I have just realized something . It says in the Old Testament( the same one that says stuff about homosexuality) that you aren’t to become too full ( can’t remember the word) also that you srent to eat crustaceans. So Christian’s most of the time , are pick and choose believes
@@panboi7490 why wouldn't an important person/teacher lie in school? During the nazi germany times, teachers taught that jews were inferiour. See? Pepole can lie in school about anything. Why couldnt the doctors lie about lgbt?
See I get what youre saying but we are capable of cognitive thought, communication throhgh words and just overall more than your average dog that would hump its reflection thinking it's his sister or smth
Okay, wait. I would like to understand why it is that bad, but, please, don't use any religion stuff to explain this to me. I want neutral and based arguments, if it's not too much to ask for :)
@@cms_kyle6984 I’m not homophobic or that religious but my theory or opinion on why people think it’s bad is because they don’t understand or try to understand it. They hide behind religion as an excuse to spread some hate or feel righteous on something they are stubborn to listen to. A lot of time they prance around the idea that they are doing right by saying that what a person does with their same gender lover in the bedroom is wrong even though it’s none of their business in the first place. They aren’t open minded and they either are so stuck in their beliefs to hear.
Who clued him into "the created order"? How does he know what that is? Homosexuality is fairly common in nature. Is that not the created order? What harm to him are homosexuals doing? How is another human being 's sex life any of his business? And, the bigger question, WHY is he so interested in what other people are doing in their bedrooms?? I don't care who my neighbor is sleeping with, as long as its consensual and legal. I'm certainly not obsessed with it, as he obviously is!
The created order can be found in the Bible and it is the way in which God intended the world to be. Homosexuality is a violation of this order, as it says here: “For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are *contrary to nature* ; and the men likewise gave up *natural relations* with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.” Romans 1:26-27 ESV It’s clear that these verses point towards the fact that homosexuality is against the natural design God created for humans. As for homosexuality in nature, the created order for animals is not the same order given to us humans. Just because other organisms partake in homosexual behaviors doesn’t mean we should too. I mean some animals eat their young, that doesn’t mean we should do it too. The Bible makes it clear that humans and animals are fundamentally created differently in the sense that we are created in the image of God, with an innate sense of morality, while animals are not. Therefore we cannot look at the behavior of animals if we want to know what is right or not, we have to look at the Word of God. The reason many Christians are so concerned about homosexuality is because it (like all sin) will lead someone to hell if left untreated. Because Christians care so much about people getting saved, they speak the truth of the Bible and expose what is sinful. This is exactly what Jesus did.
@@tyrannosaurusrex8183 "The created order can be found in the Bible" According to whose interpretation? "and it is the way in which God intended the world to be." So nude childless vegans. Or is the Garden not God's intent for this world? "Homosexuality is a violation of this order, as it says here: " It doesn't actually. It never mentions homosexuality, in fact it specifies that the men were heterosexual or something similar. I'm not sure what you call a man who naturally has relations with women, but I wouldn't call him a homosexual. "It’s clear that these verses point towards the fact that homosexuality.." "Clear" is one of those words, it's almost entirely unhelpful in disagreements and more than likely just insults the people you're talking to. "As for homosexuality in nature, the created order for animals is not the same order given to us humans. " That may be, but it doesn't remove the question as to why homosexuality exists in animals(part of the natural order if you will) if it's not part of God's plan. "we are created in the image of God, with an innate sense of morality" If you believe that humans have innate morality then the question I have to pose is why is it that homophobia is historically the exception rather than the rule? And why is it that even in homophobic societies people still arise who have no problem with homosexuality. People don't act this way about murder, they don't even act this way about slavery which existed for most of human history. Those who try to justify it almost always try to justify it by denaturing it. It's not murder, it's not the violation and control of another human will, it's shepherding the feeble and giving them work. "The reason many Christians are so concerned about homosexuality is because it (like all sin) will lead someone to hell if left untreated. " That's the excuse sure, but that's not the reason. The reason is disgust. People aren't grossed out by a lie, people aren't appalled at tax fraud. But homophobic people almost universally have an involuntary disgust response. Which is why homosexuality is not just one sin among many others; for them homosexuality is a moral cancer, a societal threat. Never mind the grace of God these people usually want homosexuality to be eliminated and then they want to never have to think about it again. " they speak the truth of the Bible and expose what is sinful. " No. they premise the acceptance of their moral stances as an artificial pre-requisite on the free grace of God. They are creating a barrier for those whom they disagree with, they are gatekeeping the gospel. " This is exactly what Jesus did." Which I shouldn't have to tell you, is the opposite of what Jesus did.
Nothing is wrong with homosexuality, but there is something wrong with trying to take way rights from people that don't conform to your idea of right. If you want to talk about sin, how about cherry picking the word of god to fit your twisted views? So follow the bible or not, but don't go around and pick things that only fits your prejudice - hypocrites!!!
@@tamchan27 Yes, he is. This clip focuses on small part of a sermon - he's cherry picking what is to be followed and not. what parts of the old testament should be ignored and what parts followed? Here: let the pastor's prejudice tell you! Do not tell me they follow the bible! They follow the parts that coincides with their views and prejudices. So the bible is the true and word of god? There's a shitload of translation problems and there's whole lot of interpretation in the bible verses and all of them talk about it being the immutable word of god - so that is one issue I have with this, . The hypocrisy in what to follow in the bible is another. Not mentioning other things that conveniently would be major sins , like blending fabrics, cutting your hair, eating unclean animals, and focusing on things that coincidentally agrees with your prejudice - that is cherry picking! They only apply what suits them. I don't hear Christians calling out people blending fabrics( "You shall not wear a fabric made of wool and linen blended together") or eating pigs ""And the pig, because it parts the hoof and is cloven-footed but does not chew the cud, is unclean to you. You shall not eat any of their flesh, and you shall not touch their carcasses; they are unclean to you") . But picking other passages from the bible to deny people rights, is okay? They should follow "You hypocrite, remove the wooden beam from your eye first; then you will see clearly to remove the splinter from your brother’s eye" or “Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you." If they are picking verse why not pick: "Why do you pass judgment on your brother? Or you, why do you despise your brother? For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God; for it is written, “As I live, says the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.” So then each of us will give an account of himself to God. Therefore let us not pass judgment on one another any longer, but rather decide never to put a stumbling block or hindrance in the way of a brother." These people shouldn't call themselves Christians, they should call themselves like bible-psychos. Rant over.
@@etlecho isn't half that not related to lgbt though, like he isn't talking about why god says no gay people and also why god says no blended clothes, he's talking about what god apparently thinks about being lgbt. I'm atheist anyway though
@@tamchan27 For me, it is still cherry picking if you pick parts from parts of the bible and ignore the other instructions of the same part, even if this clip is concerns one issue. He's is saying that these verses is true to live by, but others are not. What else would you call it? That it is a less than one minute clip, and you want be argue the semantics of the clip only concerning one issue, we can do that: he's not mentioning the other in list of verses he quotes. And he's not talking about what god things about LGBTQ+ - he's talking about what he interprets the bible to say. The translations doesn't all say the same either, there are translations that say "Do you not know that unrighteous men will not inherit God's Kingdom? Cherish no delusion here. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor any who are guilty of unnatural crime" Nothing gay here!
@@etlecho he looks like the kinda guy to follow all that shit though, blended clothes and all that. I haven't checked but I bet he has other things on such subjects, but maybe not as heated
It's sad to see such a large community of people whom show hate towards others of their kind... Everybody, no matter their gender, race, or sexuality is still a human. Happy Pride Month, guys, and please learn to *respect* other people no matter what
This is not hate, in fact it shows much more love to say to someone they are in the way to self destruction rather than being silent. As much as a doctor makes a diagnosis and tells the patient rather than staying silent.
@@Gillybeanx i know, it's really sad people get offended in front of truth. In fact that's the reason Jesus was crucified, people loved to live in their sins and didn't wanted someone calling them to repent of their actions cause they had offended the lord of the universe. Sad, that is the truth
@@Alejandro-xz9ct Now's about the time you can listen up. People were clearly made like this for a reason. You're born as someone who's homosexual, nothing can change your mind on your preferences. Some people just can't take that there are different people in the world. You need to just let them live their lives like you would anyone else. Please understand that things like homophobia, racism, and ethnicism are not okay and need to be stopped. You can have your own opinions, and I will try to respect them. But it's 2022, and discrimination needs to stop. This is extremely offensive to me and everyone else in the community, and I hope you can see that.
@@Gillybeanx we aren't made homosexuals, you clearly haven't understand the Christian narrative, the human persists in identifying himself with a certain sexual tendency and that is now what defines us. Just as we don't identify as lying, adulterous, corrupt people. God created us PERFECTLY but the human race fell down, we are the result of that corruption. So NO. God find not made them "homosexuals" just as He didn't made us "corrupt" or "adulterous".... We arefallen and that's why we need the gospel. Stop pushing that nonsensical stuff that they are born that way cause not even science backs it up... it's a sin and people need to repent from it.
Lmao the Bible is stupid, Remember that time Moses left for a long time the the Christians built a golden cow? God killed 3000 of them because they hurt his ego. Plus Moses melt the golden cow and had the people drink it.
OK, so let's take that point and run with it- the big man has taken so much care in the creation of the individual that he knows everyone down to the number of hairs on their head. Could he not have also had a hand in dude liking dudes? To say homosexuality isn't in God's plan yet he knows you down to the hairs on your head is a bit selective.
Not necessarily , we conveniently leave out when we consider creation that we were all born in sin. He made us, but coming into the world we all have our sins and some of us have different sins that we lean towards naturally.
