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Today we are taking a look at a 300W pure sine wave inverter which was provided for free by banggood.com for the purpose of this video. First we take a look at it’s output on the oscilloscope and then we continue with a teardown of the inverter.
Link to inverter voltlog.com/y/2ycr4
Link to aluminium screw tray voltlog.com/y/gi3pc
Link to EG8010 ASIC Modules voltlog.com/y/4f9ta

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Комментарии : 81   
@DrexProjects
@DrexProjects 7 лет назад
Thanks for the honest opinion of the product. Always a pleasure to watch your videos.
@voltlog
@voltlog 7 лет назад
thank you!
@crocellian2972
@crocellian2972 7 лет назад
Nice to see honest video. We all have temporary lapses of understanding. Young people need to be ok with that.
@trevortrevortsr2
@trevortrevortsr2 4 года назад
I learned so much from this video - sir you are a star
@jean-paulisambart2444
@jean-paulisambart2444 7 лет назад
You could use the FFT fonction of the scope to get an idea of the purity of the sine wave
@voltlog
@voltlog 7 лет назад
Ok, I will do a future video, taking a look at that.
@pirateman1966
@pirateman1966 6 лет назад
I did buy one of those sine-wave modules, but mine has the IR2113 instead of the IR2110. Never got around playing with it since my plate is already full with project. I will keep it for the time (if and when) I build a 1-2KW inverter for my cabin. Thanks for yet another great video.
@voltlog
@voltlog 6 лет назад
no problem!
@JickLibot
@JickLibot 4 года назад
Thank you for the detailed review! Did you connect the probe directly to the output of the inverter?
@Balakrishna_ABK
@Balakrishna_ABK 5 лет назад
Hello VoltLog, can you provide the link of datasheet/ schematic of this inverter
@Mryazici
@Mryazici 4 года назад
Hello can the low voltage warning be set to 11 volts instead o the 10.5 volts ?
@arvinbaba
@arvinbaba 9 месяцев назад
What kind of Toroidal core do they use on output LC filter?
@bengrobben2582
@bengrobben2582 3 года назад
would it be possible to change the input voltage from 12 to 24v? thanks :-)
@VivekMishra_1904
@VivekMishra_1904 5 лет назад
nice video sir, i don't have any knowledge about power inverter can you tell me which type of inverter will be suitable for submersible water pump 1hp and what should be watts.thanks
@steffenbuettner4294
@steffenbuettner4294 4 года назад
Great analysis! So they’re using a half-bridge topology for the dc dc converter. Interesting...
@rolandruiz1972
@rolandruiz1972 4 года назад
plsss i need your help. ihave 2000w inverter souer brand and i want to adjust the voltage cut off it shutdown on 10.5v and i want to adjust it 9.5v because im using alum battery it has lower resting voltage:(
@simontay4851
@simontay4851 6 лет назад
For a high current 12V source, use a lead acid car battery. If you have a car, connect it to the battery with engine running.
@voltlog
@voltlog 6 лет назад
yup, other people suggested that too and I did try the inverter on a car battery while running my dremel tool and it did alright. Since then I have also bought a beefy 12V power supply which will be features in a future video.
@SuperFredAZ
@SuperFredAZ 6 лет назад
Very nice presentation.
@JohnClulow
@JohnClulow 6 лет назад
Nice, thorough examination and analysis. Given the quality of the sine wave, seems like a good deal. If the USB current is a big deal, maybe someone could add a heat sink to the 7805. Looks like enough room for that. I used your link and see they do offer a 110VAC version at only $38. Got a 1 star review from one reviewer who said it only delivered 230W at 1.0 power factor and 13.9VDC. $38 isn't too bad for this quality of sine wave though. Think I'll get one. Thanks for your review.
@voltlog
@voltlog 6 лет назад
There are also control modules available on Ebay & Aliexpress if you feel like building the converter yourself. If not, a ready made one should be ok if it's not pushed to it's limits.
@abdussamed107
@abdussamed107 4 года назад
Why does it get rectified to dc after conversion to 390v ac. Why doing dc to ac to dc to ac instead of just dc to ac and filtering?
@segerlestari2786
@segerlestari2786 4 года назад
tolong inventerku 300w pure sine wave buat kulkas ga mau ngankat apanya yaa
@pacocable
@pacocable 6 лет назад
Very good video my friend. I like. Can you tell me the link for inductor ac? Thank you very much
@alanesq1
@alanesq1 6 лет назад
This video just set me wondering if there would be any merit in using one of these instead of an isolating transformer when working on mains powered equipment? Isolation transformers are very expensive but I already have an inverter
@voltlog
@voltlog 6 лет назад
That is actually a pretty interesting idea, it should work well. Thanks for the tip.
@sardaclan1
@sardaclan1 7 лет назад
good review but on a side note isn't a to-220 package 7805 rated for 1.5A so depending on the input voltage will determine how quick it reaches thermal shut down?
@voltlog
@voltlog 7 лет назад
1.5A with adequate cooling not free standing like in this case, but what you said it's true.
@notyoung
@notyoung 4 года назад
I have 2000 watt and 500 watt pure sine wave inverters from Reliable Electric (Ebay) and both units deliver a cleaner sine wave than the elctric co-op that provides commercial power to our area.
@vengug7303
@vengug7303 Год назад
Hello Sir Thanks for sharing.... If possible to share the output inductor value and specifications of the core and wire details please... More helpful
@bbreeuwer4577
@bbreeuwer4577 7 лет назад
The IRF (Infineon) components are pretty good. Only the thermal design is pretty bad. I wonder how this thing will last over time actually. edit: Modulation freq of 23.4kHz is also not something to be very happy with
@peterxyz3541
@peterxyz3541 5 лет назад
Thanks. Good info. 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@andrewpilk
@andrewpilk 7 лет назад
Do you know what frequency the output MOSFETS are being driven at?
@voltlog
@voltlog 7 лет назад
I think I'll do a follow-up video where I probe the output mosfets so we can get a better look at how their driven.
@GeomicroSolution
@GeomicroSolution 6 лет назад
AndyP egs8010 23,4khz
@codebeard
@codebeard 7 лет назад
What's the mechanism for making the output sinusoidal here? Is it just the inductor after the H-bridge with a 50Hz square wave? Or is the chip switching the mosfets in a more complicated way? I would have thought if it were that simple then why wouldn't every inverter put an inductor in series with the output. I would be interested to see the mosfet behaviour on the scope if you think other viewers would also be interested.
@voltlog
@voltlog 7 лет назад
something more complicated than a square wave, otherwise they wouldn't get that perfect looking sine wave. Sounds like a good idea for the next video, probing those output mosfets with the scope.
@cmuller1441
@cmuller1441 7 лет назад
VoltLog To achieve high efficiency mosfets must be used in on or off and spend as little time as possible in between and the worse would be to use them in a linear mode. The 4 output mosfets form a H bridge. The controller sends a variable pwm signal to control them. The LC filter at the output removes high frequency from the output. Note that 50Hz is quite slow compared to typical switching frequencies (order of magnitude 100KHz) So by varying the duty cycle continuously you get your sin wave. It's the same method used in 1 bit dac or class D audio amplifiers
@vaio232
@vaio232 5 лет назад
how is 390vDC stepped down to 220vac? do they use fb at beginning to vary 390v to 220dc? and use H bridge SPWM to form AC?
@TheRadioShop
@TheRadioShop 7 лет назад
Thanks for an honest opinion and tear down of this product. I am always a little concerned with high voltage stuff from China. They do look like they are getting better and one day may be the go to source for electronics.
@voltlog
@voltlog 7 лет назад
Thank you for watching!
@ufohunter3688
@ufohunter3688 7 лет назад
Any chance of a full schematic to study? I love SMPS and inverters and study them every chance I get, to learn new tricks.
@voltlog
@voltlog 7 лет назад
Unfortunately there is no schematic for this inverter...
@ElmerFuddGun
@ElmerFuddGun 7 лет назад
You can find a good quality "12V" high current PS without resorting to using a computer PS. They are often used for amateur radio and many have a variable output from about 5 to 16 volts with current capability of 25A+ continuous with surge of 30A+. And with low noise. If you need some suggestions let me know.
@voltlog
@voltlog 7 лет назад
I'm pretty sure I can easily find a good quality high power 12V power supply these days but nothing can beat the price of a used server power supply which goes for around $15 on ebay.
@olivierhouben
@olivierhouben 6 лет назад
very good
@antraciet
@antraciet 7 лет назад
Very nice review ! And you have respect for your tools, because you cleaned it. I liked that.
@voltlog
@voltlog 7 лет назад
Thank you! Yes I respect my tools & equipment and I like to keep them clean.
@fredlllll
@fredlllll 7 лет назад
do you think such a module can be bought on aliexpress? would be cool if we could just slap our own big mosfets on there and create higher power versions also i finally started making videos. at least a few :P on my Electronic Savage channel
@electronicsavage5526
@electronicsavage5526 7 лет назад
thats me :P
@voltlog
@voltlog 7 лет назад
the module is vailable on the usual two: ebay and aliexpress, just search for eg8010, I've also placed a link in the description
@voltlog
@voltlog 7 лет назад
the EG8010 module even supports an LCD "EG8010’s LCD communication control protocol supports ST7920 LCD modules such as 12832" so you can easily get info like output voltage, current, frequency and temp.
@fredlllll
@fredlllll 7 лет назад
i hope i will remember them when i want to build such a thing
@cmuller1441
@cmuller1441 7 лет назад
use the 12v output of a pc psu...
@voltlog
@voltlog 7 лет назад
I didn't have any on hand.. but I will get myself one of those server power supplies.
@blackbrayn
@blackbrayn 7 лет назад
VoltLog *laptop fan detected.
@ElmerFuddGun
@ElmerFuddGun 7 лет назад
0:07 - only 7 seconds in when you said "pure sine wave inverter" and I saw the poor hand drawn "sine wave" on the box I was "nope, not quality". If they can't produce a good image of a sine wave what else have they cut corners on? Many quality manufacturing issues and I am surprised by the slow 3 second voltage ramp up. And with reasonable filtering the 7805 shouldn't have 500mV of noise. That's just nuts! I would have liked to have seen the input of the 7805 on the scope and I wonder what voltage it is being provided. I'm guessing it is straight from the "battery" source so the 7805 has to drop 7+ volts. No wonder it is cutting out so quickly.
@voltlog
@voltlog 7 лет назад
yup, you're pretty much right, they've cut allot of corners on this product. I'm not sure on the slow ramp-up but it might be a feature not a bug.
@tengelgeer
@tengelgeer 7 лет назад
If you don't have any filtering on, why is your oscilloscope so terribly terribly slow?
@voltlog
@voltlog 7 лет назад
what do you mean, the scope is not slow ?!
@tengelgeer
@tengelgeer 7 лет назад
If you zoom out it takes so long to see the signal again :/ Even when you're still zoomed in like at 4:00. Maybe I'm exaggerating now I look at it again 0:-) But I would say it should be able to update faster. :D Sorry!
@voltlog
@voltlog 7 лет назад
that delay is probably caused by the fact that I was adjusting the horizontal continuously during those few seconds and maybe because of the 6-7 Mpoints memory depth (it was on auto)
@tengelgeer
@tengelgeer 7 лет назад
(Y) Sorry, my brain is a bit cooked from writing a thesis all day...
@johncherry108
@johncherry108 7 лет назад
I was a little amused when you said the universal output socket would work with US, European, *even* Australian... Is the Australian plug considered somehow strange?
@voltlog
@voltlog 7 лет назад
not necessarily, maybe just a poor choice of words on my side.
@simontay4851
@simontay4851 6 лет назад
Don't forget UK as well.
@DeeegerD
@DeeegerD 7 лет назад
Use your car battery ;) Used to use a 1000W inverter when I drove transport trucks. Enough to run a small microwave, tv, etc... However had to be careful because even with 3 truck heavy duty batteries these will run your battery down quickly if not careful.
@voltlog
@voltlog 7 лет назад
I thought about buying a car battery, the cheapest I could find was around 50 euros, but then i wouldn't use it for anything else so I would just be polluting the environment with no good reason.. A server power supply is cheaper and I could use it for other projects as well.
@23RaySan
@23RaySan 7 лет назад
I think the output current of 500mA on the USB jack is ok, because USB is just specified up to 500mA. But man, the ripple of the USB output is just awful.
@voltlog
@voltlog 7 лет назад
unfortunately it's 500mA only for a limited time until the regulator gets into thermal protection.
@23RaySan
@23RaySan 7 лет назад
ok, i agree with you. That sucks. Then you cant evenly charge a phone or something with it. Ever thought about apllying a little heatsink to it? I've ran into a similar problem a few weeks ago. I've had a buck converter chip which ran a little bit hot so i glued a little sheet of aluminium onto it. I know, its crude but it did the job :)
@vaio232
@vaio232 5 лет назад
this is bad solution, 7805 is very inefficient converter... proper solution was to have buck converter at the end.
@MCsCreations
@MCsCreations 7 лет назад
Really interesting. Maybe even the horrible Brazilian socket would fit there.
@voltlog
@voltlog 7 лет назад
looks like it would fit
@TrentSterling
@TrentSterling 7 лет назад
I gotta get me some of that flux cleaner. Too many dirty PCBs from the floor in China.
@voltlog
@voltlog 7 лет назад
Yup, pretty useful to have some flux cleaner.
@jaa93997
@jaa93997 7 лет назад
you're missing 10 Hz there buddy 😂 (JK)
@voltlog
@voltlog 7 лет назад
:-)
@ionbalas7667
@ionbalas7667 7 лет назад
In Europe is 50Hz 230V
@thomasjaszewski64
@thomasjaszewski64 7 лет назад
Cheap, $38 from USA warehouse. Hmmmmm...
@SudiptaMandalsuri
@SudiptaMandalsuri 6 лет назад
too much useless talking
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