@@funkydankspliff It would be great to have him on there , they would be blown away by all the knowledge he has on board set up's and truck designs.. And he rips hard on the board..
Wear them out for a while breaks then in nice. Taking them out to buggy clubs dancing is also the best to break them in, plus you feel great in a new pair of shoes 😁
i remember the wave of vulc shoes that every company started doing around 2007-8, got hard to find decent cupsoles, i would always roll my ankle's in vulc shoe's due to the sharper edges and extra grip feel, you could say i'm a Anti-vulcanizer
Favorite cup sole - Nike SB Dunk. Favorite vulcanized - Adidas Busenitz Vulc. Also really loving the original Vans Kyle Walker pro model which is a hybrid of both.
I do love joslins marana shoes. They fit my foot shape perfectly. They last for a lot longer than any other shoe I've tried. I suppose they do take a bit of time to break in but they still skate well for me fresh outs the box. Vans and some others creat a weird pressure point in my foot when breaking in that causes real pain and makes it difficult to skate and not get hurt compensating for the weird foot pain. Just my two cents on my experience. Love your informative vids
Yeah those are crazy nice. They lasted me months. And I can still skate them now. Definitely one of my top favourites, especially in terms of durability.
I've been on a steady streak of Joslins and Maranas for about 3 years now, absolutely love them. They do have a little less board feel than Vans, but nothing you don't get used to. They do wear down eventually like any other skate shoe, but I've been impressed with the durability.
I loved the early 2000's Accels. The current OG ones aren't the same and feel excessively bulky for the sake of nostalgia. Currently skating some Joslins after seeing a lot of positive recommendations. The break-in period and boardfeel were much better than I expected.
Born in the early 00s so I don't know how they felt, but I wear the current OGs with some thick ass inserts in them. They're the only shoes that can fit my inserts and also keep my knees and feet from hurting from walking in them.
I have OG Accels and they aren't even nearly as bulky as they were back in the day. All of the reissue shoes by Es have been, quite frankly, garbage. They fall apart if you just look at them.
I rode some Duffs back in the old days and they helped me progress faster than other shoes. Didn’t think about it at the time but makes sense. I bought a pair of Adio after my duffs and almost lost all my tricks.
@@deadredeyes the Quattro currently out is amazing, in my opinion, but the Accels, Schemes, and Spartans all have been complete misses. That sole they used on all the reissues and the Silo is just weird. Silo SC and Quattro are the ones to get from Es right now. The Evant skates well, too, but you just gotta look past the weird parts of the sole (unless you like it) and then they're amazing
So grateful for your review have been talking about this with my friend now only i understand after watching your video. Been skating vans the whole time as i prefer having wider sole compared to most other brands which has a slimer profile that tends to be uncomfortable when u skate for a longer period of time.
You and chad caruso are probably the best skateboard content youtubers. Always quality content and straight to the point. Never waisting my time. An you aren’t just using your channel as a marketing gimmick.
my new balance 306’s are one of the best skate shoes i’ve ever had until i they were on their way out. the dainty kickflips after they’ve been well worn resonated with me. overall amazing shoe, when they first came out of the box and i got used to them they were just flicking the board so easily and now i really need to use a lot of effort to make it work because of how worn they are. lasted over a month and i progressed a lot because of how long i had them
@@michaelbalas3024 for me, no. Waffle vulc soles have better grip for transition. Cupsoles have better impact protection and better flick in my opinion.
@@michaelbalas3024 awful flick with cupsole? That's pretty rare. You get consistent, good flick with them. Vulcs give great flick, but not consistent. I'm cupsole in the streets and parks, personally. Good middle ground cupsoles exist that can do well in both areas.
@@kmrskates I'm trying Nikes new cupsole - Force 58. They're not too bad. Could use improvement in some areas. Def think I need to find another cupsole like the Tyshawn’s
Hi Ben. I’m skating vulcanised Adidas super suede and I like that they have quite good impact protection. I also LOVE how they are the same shape as my feet so I don’t slide around the insole. Good video. Have a good day, man
I've been skating hi top cons for about a year now and they're the best. Super easy to break in, great board feel, and the rubber toe cap helps them last!
Another awesome video! You're so right about a cup sole making a board feel older!!! I just got my favorite Romero laced and the first session was fun but my board felt 2 weeks older hahaha. Cheers Ben.
Used to love vulcanized soles but as I've gotten older I definitely prefer the support of a cupsoles nowadays. I recommend the new lakai telfords. Love the flick, ankle support and overall classic look
I felt the Telford sole is too thin :/ I have the Sabbath ones and even with a thicker inse in them, they feel too mushy brand new. :/ The XLK sole on the Atlantic and Proto would be a great idea for Lakai to try on the Telford I'm spoiled with Marana and Joslin models though.
I feel you. I did have to swap out the insoles for some FP elite orthotics. It'd be great to see a high top XLK shoe come out. Glad your liking your Etnies though 😁 I loved my Marana mids. If they had tongue centering straps they'd probably be all I skated haha
I just got my first pair of vulc shoes. I went with the NB Numerics 379’s and I’m stoked on them. I’ve always been a cupsole boy, but these NBs have me hyped on them. I definitely need to get some orthotic insoles though
The fallen troopers are my number 1 currently. They are so damn tough, absolute workhorse of a shoe. I skate bowls so lots of running out. These shoes protect my toes really well.
For me which one I prefer is really dependent on the shoe. I mostly use Vulc but I’ve had a few pairs of cupsoles that I really liked. The adidas city cup was one of my favorite shoes I’ve ever skated. I skated them for a whole summer until I ripped the toe, and that summer I progressed more than I ever had up until that point, that was when I really started to get comfortable and feel confident on my board and I attribute a lot of that to those shoes. I was a big fan of them
Awsome video. That's exactly the same thing I noticed on heels w- the cup. My faverite vulc was probably blazers and Chuck taylors, then for cups, probably dunk or af1. I don't mind nollie heel in vulc slip ons even, but almost avoid heels unless I'm wearing cupsoles. You pretty much nailed it on this one
Just picked up a pair of new balance foys. I’m pretty sure they are vulcanized. Best shoes I’ve had in a while. Like you said, really great board feel and barely any break in period. They cost a pretty penny but I’d buy them again for sure!
ive spent 6 months skating the NB 305 and spend most of the time doing heelflips and ollies and ive yet to put any holes thru the last layer of suede. love what NB is doing
The lakai Atlantic is my favorite shoe of all time. It is the perfect balance of cupsole beefiness but it never feels too bulky. And Vincent Alvarez is the man.
True, Maranas and Joslins are my favorite. I have tried em all, and still switch it up. Maranas/Joslin's or any cupsole built similarly, firm and with a thicc double layer of suede is the way to go for me
Favorite show I ever skated was the Rowley XLT. They shredded up fast but everything felt good on them. I'm still stuck on bigger cupsoles so Accel OGs for me now.
My Crockett's 2 have vulc/cup (wafflecup). One of my favorite shoes. They've lasted me awhile. And I've only skated 2 pairs in the past 2 years. But then again I skate transition more than flat nowadays.
I recently picked back up skateboarding again after a 15+ year hiatus, a few days ago, that the ripe old age of 40. Currently I've been just using my daily work boots as skate shoes. The problem with work boots is that they grip the board too much, but I do like the support that a work boot gives me.
Had a pair of reissued scams recently,they were amazing. They felt good straight away and lasted about 5 months before wearing through the sole. Van's feel awesome,but I'm always through the sole after a couple of months.
Adidas matchbreak super in suede are probably my favorite shoes ever (I've been skating over 20 years now). They look fairly simple but the small details really make them perfect for me. Worst shoes I've ever tried skating, I'd have to go wayyyy back... Gershon Mosley "GMOS 4" globe shoes... it was like wearing bricks on your feet. I think they became my lawn mowing shoes pretty quickly lmao.
Absolutely loved the DC Infinite S (vulcanized). Just so well-built and at least for my feet extremely comfy with great board feel - really an awesome and everlasting allrounder
@@bittmanbobby Ok nice :D I only tried the suede ones but I think the canvas version will definitely benefit from the high rubber protection as well - and besides be way nicer for summer. Nice choice :)
For me, I've always leaned toward cupsoles that are fat up top and slim down towards the bottoms. The DVS comanche 2.0s are the closest I've seen to perfection for me plus you can find crazy deals on them
The Joslin Vulc is a great one. I have been riding this model for the last 6 months. Excellent board feel and durable. Not as durable as the Marana, but still above average for vulcanized shoes.
Thanks for the video, helpful. I'll probably get a pair of those Newbalance shoes, as I get older I value a more comfortable shoe but I don't like it when they feel too bulky or heavy.
That switch heel line was perfect. I like cupsoles more than vulcs, vulcs are good for skating the park though. I really feel like its easier to switch to cupsole from vulc than vice versa though, tere's something about the extra support that you get used to. I'm on my eigth pair of Elijah Berle's which is a cupsole with no insole. I switch to the NB Jamie Foy's if I wanna skate a rail or transition with a little extra confidence and boardfeel.
The Mephisto Ludo are great too, they have super high quality leathers and are hand made in Europe. They have a natural rubber sole but some kind of vulcanization process where it allows them to resole your shoe when you need to. You just send them the shoe and they put a new sole on it. Also, they have an air-soft technology cushioning system in the heal and Air-relax.
the new balance numeric 212 has been my go to, the upper usually lastslonger than the bottom of the sole, and I often see them on sale for around 30 - 45, si I just buy them in bulk (2 - 3 pairs) when I see those sales. highly reccomend for a low profile, stylish, and relatively durable skate shoe for great board feel.
Those Westgates are the best cupsole shoe I’ve ever worn. Close second is the first Brian Sumner Adio (deep cut there). Best ever vulc was the Vans TNT 2 or 3, can’t quite remember which
@@ninmoron3150 Pretty good. I’m probably not the best judge tbf because I’m 34 and skate like once a month at this point. But the sole has held up well and the suede seems to be pretty durable as well, especially with the 1 piece toe
@@ninmoron3150 I have the Westgate 508s and just got some 440s as well. I haven't skated either yet. They look too rad to ruin yet. I think the 440s would hold up better. The 508s are extremely comfortable. The 440s are stiffer. There is more rubber on the sides of the cup sole on the 440s. It's pretty minimal on the 508s. Someone else mentioned that the heel is lose on the 508s. Compared to the 440s, I think this is true. The 440s seem to lock in your heels more. The 508s seem to have more board feel in the sole. I think they are thinner. The 508s have a single piece of rubber for the sole. The 440s have two. The 440s seem like they are pretty darn durable. It seems like they would take more breaking in. The 508s seem like they wouldn't require much break in at all. Also, the 440s sole seems to stick out more on the sides. I think maybe it's that way to prevent rolling your ankle, or maybe it's just the fact that the rubber on the side is beefier. They seem pretty damn durable to me. The ones I have are the black ones with the gum sole with suede. There are others that have more leather. Same thing for the 508s. I'm thinking the leather ones would probably hold up better. The rubber sole on the 440s seems pretty tough too. This is just my impression. Your mileage may vary. I haven't skated either of them yet. Overall, I think the 440s would hold up better.
was thinking about you today, & about shoes, came to your channel & first video i see is this one! starting to get some knee pain. i've been skating Vans Atwoods for quite a while, i love everything about them, except for lack of impact protection (& now with my knee i have learned i may actually need some arch support.)
Hey Ben, cool video - I've really gotten a lot out of my Adidas 3ST.004 cup soles. Just enough boardfeel with perfect support, impact protection, and grip. There's exposed boost foam in the back of the shoe so that might complicate your heelflips / nollie heelflips but I haven't noticed that being an issue. On the flipside, since I'm recovering from an ankle surgery, I'm trying to skate Nike SB Blazer Mids. For a vulcanized shoe they're pretty supportive underfoot and offer me a lot of ankle protection.
I've probably skated 5 pairs of reebok Club C's and some other reeboks that I really like for cupsole shoes. For vulc I like converse w/ some nicer insoles (wear down really nice and the rubber toe lasts forever)
Best shoes for me is the DC Kalis (the new one with cupsole) and my favorite and only vulc that i love enough to buy was the New Balance Jami Foy 306. The DC have just enough protection and board feel and tough too. The 306 have really good board feel and they skate amazing out of the box but have less protection for my foot but i will have another one for sure! New Balance are surprisingly tough too!
Funny that you just made this vid. I am a cupsole guy but I just got a vulc, the DC Infinite cause it has a gnarly ollie pad. Good seeing ya in Richmond, I'm at the airport now heading back to Edmonton. Ben is good dude!
Hey Ben, been watching the channel for ages and I love it. Was wondering if at any point you were considering doing a review on any èS shoes at all? Thank you!
Hey Ben, one of my favorite cupsole shoes is the new balance 440 hi. Pretty good boardfeel and thick enough where if you primo on the arch or heel you’re gonna be fine. Forefront is a lil thin but throw in a thin pair of FP insole it’s solid.
@@getbuckgetbuck I have the white and green leather ones. Holding up pretty good after a couple weeks. Been doing a lot of heel flips and the mesh on the sides aren’t blown out just a lil frayed
So far ive tried both joslin 1 and joslin 2, break in period was like 10 minutes of flat, after that i was very confident with them down stairs, they break in fast and last a long while
I really liked the Nike Koston 3 Hyperfeel. Quite expensive but great feel. Unfortunately they're unavailable now... A couple of months ago I bought several pairsin eBay, when I foresaw they were disappearing, so I still have my own personal stock....
My favorite vulcanized skate shoes are mostly HUF's especially the Clive and the Galaxy (i also say that the Classic and the Hupper) and recently i've got the last Brad Cromer pro model, the reason cuz i enjoyed skating these cuz the flexibility they have (for ledges and rail tricks really sticks on your feet the first days, then you could get more consistent your flat ground tricks), the way they feel in the board (pretty smooth) and the time of break in (just need like 1 or 2 sessions to make them feel like an extension of your feet), the durability also is another great thing the galaxy lasted me 2 months and 1 week til they ripped from the outsole. Still skating the Clive just got a little wore down area in the outsole but it a little pattern even having in mind that i've been skating em for a month.. I also mention Vans shoes like the Rowan Pro's and the old skool, they really great, the only thing i dont like about em its the duration (Vans usually last like 1 month and half) but i wanna try the Saddle Sid Pro, seems pretty cool.. Wanna try also the Globe Surplus and Los Angered 2, also the new Emerica model, the Temple.. But yeah mostly HUF's but it's a sad thing that they no longer making shoes:"(
I had both, both very good shoes. Accels are like pillows around your feet, but the boardfeel is surprisingly good after breaking them in. Manchesters felt very good for the shape of my foot.
New Balance 440H are my current favorite cupsole. Little to no break-in period, great board feel, great flick, breathable, very lightweight, comfortable, and supportive.
My favourite is the emerica romero laced. A cupsole that breaks in super fast and fits my feet very well. Since I have wide feet a lot shoes painfull for me.
Well the best skating I did was with a Prod 9 Elite, the Tiago S (+ extra insoles) from DC and the Suciu II ADV. I like not feeling that much impact, even when I skate flat.
after my accels im gonna get some tiago s's of of ebay since his on nb nowadays (so sad hoping that he will come back to DC) any thing you can tell me about them?
Globe Tilts ftw!!! So so much more protection and durability in general, the sole has like 4 layers which absorb so much when doing gaps or drops!! Some people dont like the size - they are sime big boys but im a skater from the 2000s and thats what we wore lol. The support aroujd your ankles is awesome also. But kist of all you still have great board feel despite having a thick and absorbant sole!!
Just bought cupsoles at as a over 40 skater, it has breathed new life into my feet!!!! PS just bought a parking block, could you do a series on tricks on a parking block? Your board slide on a curb from years back was great
