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@blancolirio
@blancolirio Год назад
More info by Denys that strongly supports a missile strike: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8H2FGud37RQ.html
@kristinwinter5006
@kristinwinter5006 Год назад
You Ruskie trolls never sleep!@@dietervolke7811
@mcloutier5
@mcloutier5 Год назад
Very thorough report by Denys.
@dietervolke7811
@dietervolke7811 Год назад
However, there was no direct confirmation that Prigozhin, who was known to take numerous security precautions, was dead. A second jet belonging to him, which was also in flight, turned around midair after the incident and later landed at Ostafyevo airport near Moscow. Chatham House Russia analyst Keir Giles said: “It is known that multiple individuals have changed their name to Yevgeny Prigozhin, as part of his efforts to obfuscate his travels. So until we know for certain that it’s the right Prigozhin, let’s not be surprised if he pops up shortly in a new video from Africa.”
@Mywhtjp
@Mywhtjp Год назад
No explosions were reported. Probably straffed by machine guns.. quieter but they accomplished their goal. Sadly.. Just watched the first part of that video.. He's got nothing on you as far as his knowledge of airplanes and your resource of identifying them..
@mcloutier5
@mcloutier5 Год назад
Everything russian is maybe/maybe not. But Denys’ report is very thorough.
@2011blueman
@2011blueman Год назад
We know it wasn't an accident. I'm surprised anyone was willing to pilot an airplane with him on it, and anyone else was willing to be on board.
@zlm001
@zlm001 Год назад
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. They may have been Wagner pilots though.
@tinytattoomike7943
@tinytattoomike7943 Год назад
💯
@HokieJuju
@HokieJuju Год назад
Yeah it seems a little odd that there were 3 pilots on board but from what I’ve seen, they were all Wagner pilots.
@psikogeek
@psikogeek Год назад
"This is your captain speaking. Please welcome our VIP passengers, Yevgeny Prigozhin, Mohamed Atta, and D. B. Cooper. Enjoy your flight, everyone."
@mcnultyssobercompanion6372
@mcnultyssobercompanion6372 Год назад
Seriously. I'm floored that he was flying into Russia, and apparently fairly often, from what I read this afternoon. I mean, even if he wasn't on that plane, _someone_ high enough to launch missiles clearly thought he was. If he's alive, I'd suggest he takes trains from now on. Not that I have any love for the man. Slava Ukraine.
@Gregorius421
@Gregorius421 Год назад
Worth noting that ADSB data was lost at FL280, not when the aircraft impacted the ground. Circuits were severed while flying.
@wolfgangpreier9160
@wolfgangpreier9160 Год назад
Of course it was. It exploded in the air. Wladimir knows his business.
@dougall1687
@dougall1687 Год назад
FR24 over on facebook gave a more detailed analysis of the vertical speeds recorded by various receivers, and there seem to be 2, maybe 3, final data points with a very rapid descent rate (c. 7,000 ft/min). So the initial event doesn't appear to have completely disabled the flight systems.
@wolfgangpreier9160
@wolfgangpreier9160 Год назад
@@dougall1687 Meybae some vigilantes climbed onto the wings and tried to stitch them together but their cheap russian strings did not hold up.
@dougall1687
@dougall1687 Год назад
@@wolfgangpreier9160 I think the point is that if the ADS-B was still functioning during the initial parts of the descent, then the avionics were energized at this point (either by battery or engines) and so both CVR and FDR records should be available covering the event itself and early consequences. Although assuredly this will not be made public.
@wolfgangpreier9160
@wolfgangpreier9160 Год назад
@@dougall1687 Where did they shoot it down? Over Russia. Who has the best electronic warfare in their own country? Russia. Questions about ADSB make simply no sense in this case. I was always wondering why the russians even allow ADSB signals in and out of their land. But who knows what a russian thinks?
@aviatorel32
@aviatorel32 Год назад
Putin promised Prigozhin that he won’t be prosecuted, and he kept his word.
@jonathanmvkhai
@jonathanmvkhai Год назад
A man of his word.
@fighterjetsteve
@fighterjetsteve Год назад
Vlad said prosecuted...... he just didn't mention assassination.🤔🤔
@christopherstewart7707
@christopherstewart7707 Год назад
Prigozhin should have stipulated that he get immunity from not only legal prosecution but immunity from missle strikes. It always pays to get the best lawyer…
@mcahill135
@mcahill135 Год назад
Well, in a sense he was prosecuted. Not in a court of law, but, at 33,000 ft
@raymondclark1785
@raymondclark1785 Год назад
Shows putler was willing to use Freindly fire on 9 others to get his revenge
@tubefr71
@tubefr71 Год назад
When I first heard the news, my immediate reaction was “I want to hear Blancolirio’s analysis on it”. So as always, thank you!
@cozysouth
@cozysouth Год назад
Accidentally flew through the path of a missile. Never guessed that was going to happen.
@mikemontagne2703
@mikemontagne2703 Год назад
Inadvertently flew into the same bowtye shaped pre-fragmented maelstrom that makes up the warhead of a Buk 9M38(?)....
@Don.Challenger
@Don.Challenger Год назад
Yes, well who hopes to fall out a window, off a balcony, down an elevator shaft, slip fall down the stairway - sadly this venture was merely from greater altitude and the armored vests would only expedite their fall from greatness (as it were). Mr Putin strikes from afar; however, that killer is no godlike Apollo.
@oldschoolman1444
@oldschoolman1444 Год назад
Poor airplane!
@MichaelOfRohan
@MichaelOfRohan Год назад
Lol we knew he was dead the moment he opened his mouth against russia.
@kamakaziozzie3038
@kamakaziozzie3038 Год назад
Classic Hillary body count
@cee5050
@cee5050 Год назад
That white "cloud" at 4:50 reminded me of the same kind of cloud when they shot down the Chinese balloon.
@adrianinglis5922
@adrianinglis5922 Год назад
It was only a matter of time but I thought he would have fallen from a 6th storey window like so many others.
@j2simpso
@j2simpso Год назад
For a leader like him, the number of stories he has to fall from increase greatly.
@Dave-ei7kk
@Dave-ei7kk Год назад
I think this is a case of killing 7 birds with one stone. (Plus the flight crew who were probably incidental casualties).
@montepickett3
@montepickett3 Год назад
Yes I thought he would catch "3rd floor window cancer"
@BoMcGillacutty
@BoMcGillacutty Год назад
Clearly mass suicide.
@Relkond
@Relkond Год назад
I’d figured on an accident - something that could be plausibly denied. This seems quite risky. If there’s shrapnel holes in the aircraft, that’s going to give credence to the idea of a shoot-down, which can serve as justification for Wagner to pull some dumb $#!%
@tao5664
@tao5664 Год назад
Juan, I love how as an American you kept a straight face when you said "and we're never going to get the straight story as this happened over in Russia" Greetings from Australia
@hobnob4224
@hobnob4224 Год назад
Yep, same as in the good ole US of A. Probably hit by a magic bullet.
@JimMork
@JimMork Год назад
When did we get a straight story about the invasion of Iraq. Let's not get too haughty here.
@andrewf2
@andrewf2 Год назад
The last guy who crossed Putin committed suicide by shooting himself in the head. Twice.
@robertstennett7566
@robertstennett7566 4 месяца назад
According to the Russian investigating team it was a hand grenade that exploded in the interior of the plane.
@dski8097
@dski8097 Год назад
The puff of white and grey smoke is a signature of a missile proximity detonation. That jet was shot down by a sophisticated surface to air missile.
@cockatoo010
@cockatoo010 Год назад
doesn't need to be sophisticated. Pretty sure an Igla (Soviet MANPADS) could shoot down a business jet.
@uwekonnigsstaddt524
@uwekonnigsstaddt524 Год назад
The sound of jet engines can be heard. Perhaps a fighter shot down the jet
@ericvonp
@ericvonp Год назад
Plane was at 25k ft high. That’s to high for that
@АндрейСтечкин-Васечкин
@@cockatoo010" Igla" is valid up to 5-6km only,if im not mistaken. It was rather a missile from the "buk",or smth similar.
@dale2540
@dale2540 Год назад
If it was shot down, wouldn't it blow up? Seeing they just took off & full of Fuel.@@uwekonnigsstaddt524 . I see this as something blew up from inside the jet, blowing the tail end off... hard to say.
@Blxz
@Blxz Год назад
What a truly unlucky turn of events. Could have happened to anyone. Anyone flying over Russian airspace who also happened to carry a passenger that had acted against the Russian head of state, that is.
@rabidbigdog
@rabidbigdog Год назад
Yes indeed. MH17 springs to mind.
@anthonymaddison9588
@anthonymaddison9588 Год назад
Treason is punishable by death in many countries including the USA.
@Markle2k
@Markle2k Год назад
There were a lot of VVS personnel who would not mind making a “mistake” like his guys did when they shot down the Il-22M. Poetic how they descended in much the same way.
@Brad2117
@Brad2117 Год назад
Well said. I almost missed the second paragraph lol
@fuzzy1dk
@fuzzy1dk Год назад
not only against the head of state, afaiu he was running around in Africa because GRU wanted to replace the Wagner group there with their own people, so they also wanted to get rid of him
@rkoczewski1
@rkoczewski1 Год назад
It was not a missile It was not a bomb It was not a crash It was a “special military landing”
@kbg990
@kbg990 Год назад
Special Rapid Unscheduled Disassembly
@james_chatman
@james_chatman Год назад
😆😆😆 I shouldn't but these people have actively made the world a worse place. Won't be missed.
@hb1338
@hb1338 Год назад
@@user-jh4xk3ml1q Incorrect . Putin usually waits for the initial palaver to die down before acting, maybe because he thinks revenge is best served cold, maybe to lull the victim into a lower state of alertness.
@wngimageanddesign9546
@wngimageanddesign9546 Год назад
LMAO!
@brucedickson6019
@brucedickson6019 Год назад
10.0
@Saabjock
@Saabjock Год назад
I worked on the Legacy 600 model several years ago. They don't just fall out of the sky in that fashion. There is absolutely zero forward component in that video. While extremely blurry, it looks like most of the empennage is missing which would explain the freefall. That aircraft either took a missle in the aft section or some type of explosive went off in either the aft baggage or in the hell hole.
@phillee2814
@phillee2814 Год назад
Metal on the external panels that survived the post-execution fire all had the edges bent inwards, so the penetration was outside. From chef to roast is unsurprising, exactly 2 weeks after the Wagner mutiny.
@robertstennett7566
@robertstennett7566 4 месяца назад
@@phillee2814 According to the Russian investigating team it was a hand grenade that exploded in the interior of the plane.
@phillee2814
@phillee2814 4 месяца назад
@@robertstennett7566 And according to the fox, it was somebody unknown who raided the chicken coop!😂🤣😂🤣
@kevinmansker8649
@kevinmansker8649 Год назад
In various screenshots you can see the right wing and most of the empennage is missing from the fuselage
@HokieJuju
@HokieJuju Год назад
I was thinking it looked like one of the wings was missing but it was hard to tell in the video.
@c1ph3rpunk
@c1ph3rpunk Год назад
Nyet. These aren’t the wings you’re looking for. It took off that way, it wasn’t me.
@germansnowman
@germansnowman Год назад
There is a second video that shows it quite clearly.
@pistonburner6448
@pistonburner6448 Год назад
GRU placed the explosive charge into the Embraer's wing-mounted main landing gear enclosure. Boom -> wing comes off.
@denninosyos
@denninosyos Год назад
The initial smoke plume looks like it comes from aft-right. I think an AA missile hit it from aft- right and tore the tail and right wing off. If it was an internal explosion in the cabin I'd think that the cabin would've been a bit more torn up and right wing still attached or in proximity of the falling main fuselage.
@hernanhernandez3861
@hernanhernandez3861 Год назад
"Truth is the first casualty of war..." great quote.
@Hans_R._Wahl
@Hans_R._Wahl Год назад
Yes!
@nicklovell5872
@nicklovell5872 Год назад
Thank you Juan. Your assessments are always clear clear and informative and easy for the layperson to understand.
@purplesprigs
@purplesprigs Год назад
Please, everyone, lay off the conspiracy Kool Aid. He is dead. Also, JFK was not killed by the Keebler elves and I am not D.B. Cooper...or am I?
@jamesm3471
@jamesm3471 Год назад
The only reason this Legacy jet crashed is because Yevgeny Prigozhin couldn’t fit out its window. In all seriousness though, my heart goes out for its crew.
@cheddar2648
@cheddar2648 Год назад
_one cannot make an omelet without cracking a few eggs_ --The New York Times
@bluejew6969
@bluejew6969 Год назад
The crew were likely Wagner pilots so I wouldn’t feel too bad for them
@NFlight
@NFlight Год назад
Wing missing, engine and tail gone. Missile.
@jamescollier3
@jamescollier3 Год назад
first and only camera footage!
@JoeKyser
@JoeKyser Год назад
​@jamescollier3 yeah true, we are making assumptions here. No doubt that plane was blown down. We just dont know if this is part of a true story
@timb8095
@timb8095 Год назад
Pentagon are now saying, not missile
@richardlincoln8438
@richardlincoln8438 Год назад
Special military intervention.
@NFlight
@NFlight Год назад
@@timb8095 Heard that too.. Vlad says it was Wine Crate Bomb that was loaded last minute. The FA messaged her family about "an unexpected delay". We'll never really know.
@guyver268
@guyver268 Год назад
Just because his Prigozhin's name was on the passenger manifest doesn't necessarily mean he was actually on board. I can think of good reasons he'd like everyone to believe he was.
@navinstrument8353
@navinstrument8353 Год назад
Interesting perspective
@TheWilferch
@TheWilferch Год назад
That was my thinking too at first when all that was reported was that his "name" was on the list.....but his name and the names of some other high ranking Wagner people were on the confirmed body count / naming list issued by the crash authorities. That all said...yes, it's a report from Russia, so maybe not truthful overall given the history.
@gmcjetpilot
@gmcjetpilot Год назад
You don't think Putin former KGB was NOT able to positively ID Prigozhin was on plane (eyes on him)? It was a missile as crash scene pictures leaked out of plane (wreckage) is full of small shrapnel holes. Why shoot plane down? So when Prigozhin's is never seen again will you agree he is dead, or will you say this is a coverup so he can "go on the lam". Prigozhin's was just in Africa with his Wagner murdering psycho mercenaries killing woman and children. He was not hiding. Reports say he was one of the dead, Be skeptical but don't be ridiculous. These "hits" (murders) are normal for Putin. Anyone who criticizes him or opposes him ends up in jail, dead or both. Not to judge but to be clear we do it in America. Jeffery Epstein, a string of deaths around Clintons... this kind of thing happens...by evil people.
@Transilvanian90
@Transilvanian90 Год назад
Possible, but that's just speculative. Until we have evidence of anything, it's presumed he was there and died.
@dong4617
@dong4617 Год назад
I'm sure the FSB knew who was aboard before they shot it down.
@alanaldpal950
@alanaldpal950 Год назад
Well, like so many other Russian Big Wigs, Prigozhin died from a great fall…. Much higher than the usual apartment window
@badmonkey2222
@badmonkey2222 Год назад
It's actually quite comforting to know that he most likely had the whole way down to think about the atrocities he committed in Ukraine. Good riddance.
@jhgming
@jhgming Год назад
@@badmonkey2222He probably wasn't even thinking about that. He might have already been dead in the air, or he might have been thinking about and hoping for Putin's downfall, we'll never know
@bullfrogger1208
@bullfrogger1208 Год назад
Well, at least you don't call bullets to the back of the head "suicide".
@Blxz
@Blxz Год назад
The higher you reach the greater the fall. Never more true than now.
@c1ph3rpunk
@c1ph3rpunk Год назад
@@jhgmingwas he even alive when boarding.
@MrMonoTracer
@MrMonoTracer Год назад
Professional pilot here: Experience shows that it is very difficult to open a window of a jet aircraft inflight, even harder for a person to fall out of it. However, this problem can be solved when the window itself, with the airframe attached to it, falls out of the sky - with the unlucky person on board…
@RockandRollWoman
@RockandRollWoman Год назад
😂😂😂
@Hans_R._Wahl
@Hans_R._Wahl Год назад
Indeed.
@RockandRollWoman
@RockandRollWoman Год назад
You should have far more 👍👍👍. No one else has been able to reconcile this "accident" with the storied history of other Putin critics and their window-related accidents. I laugh every time I contemplate your elegant solution. 👍👌🤣🤣🤣
@MrMonoTracer
@MrMonoTracer Год назад
@@RockandRollWoman Thank you😀👍!
@gcrauwels941
@gcrauwels941 Год назад
Someone showed some pictures of the tail section separated from the main impact and a section of wing consistent with SAM damage. I knew it was coming, just didn't know when. What he was doing still in Russia is baffling.
@cockatoo010
@cockatoo010 Год назад
Right. The continuous rod warhead of a 58E6 missile (fired by a Pantsir) is designed to cut trough the target after detonation. Although some in the comments are claiming that the pictures of the wreckage show small holes peppered trough some surfaces, which would be more consistent with a blast fragmentation warhead from something like a 9M317 from a Buk (small holes were peppered throughout the cockpit of MH17, for example) or the missiles from S300
@gcrauwels941
@gcrauwels941 Год назад
@@cockatoo010 Interesting. Would be consistent with large scale control surface failure.
@djinn666
@djinn666 Год назад
Anyone dumb enough to start a failed coup against Putin's inner circle is dumb enough to stay in Russia afterwards.
@ugiswrong
@ugiswrong Год назад
RIP Prigozhin, you were an excellent adversary, very entertaining
@keithrosenberg5486
@keithrosenberg5486 Год назад
I saw a photo that seemed to show shrapnel holes in a partly intact piece of the aircraft.
@danroll81
@danroll81 Год назад
I was surprised a few weeks back to see footage of him disembarking a Robinson 44 helicopter. He sure was confident enough to fly anything!
@donmoore7785
@donmoore7785 Год назад
Arse over teakettle is a favorite expression of my dad's.
@TechGorilla1987
@TechGorilla1987 Год назад
@2:57 - "Ass over teakettle." Now THERE is a term I have not heard in a while. Mum used to say that all the time. Good memories.
@Deltarious
@Deltarious Год назад
Photographs of the wreckage *clearly* show the wreck displays perforations that can more or less only be from the shrapnel created by the detonation of a missile, they're very distinctive and pepper at least one side of the aircraft
@idanceforpennies281
@idanceforpennies281 Год назад
Yeah. Everyone is talking about a SAM.
@FPVMystique
@FPVMystique Год назад
I'd expect damage more congruent with the use of a continuous-rod (CR) missile rather than a peppering.
@idanceforpennies281
@idanceforpennies281 Год назад
What ??? @@FPVMystique
@jamescraig4479
@jamescraig4479 Год назад
​@@idanceforpennies281A continuous rod warhead that upon detonation, forms an expanding ring that slices through airframes...
@badmonkey2222
@badmonkey2222 Год назад
There's also video of what's left of him, well what's left of his upper half at least.
@nickwind2584
@nickwind2584 Год назад
As far as unsolved mysteries of Russians falling out of windows goes, I say Prigozhin wins the world record for highest altitude. 😂
@skayt35
@skayt35 Год назад
Putin fled a largely unprotected Moscow during the Wagner mutiny, and afterwards had to publicly shake hands with Prygoshin, in Belarus, outside Russia. Putin was ridiculed by the whole world, including the Ukraine, and even the Russian TV propagandists had trouble portraying this as strength. It was widely considered as the deepest humuliation for him since he took office as the head of Russia. The record downfall of Prygoshin was the minimum which Putin could dish him.
@Confucius_Says...
@Confucius_Says... Год назад
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@ctwalston1565
@ctwalston1565 Год назад
Yup
@bruhdabones
@bruhdabones Год назад
@@skayt35you know what they say, the bigger they are the harder they fall 😂
@orchidorio
@orchidorio Год назад
Prigozhin was PUSHED out the window!!!!!
@jamesonpace726
@jamesonpace726 Год назад
We all knew this was coming, surprised it took so long. Unless Prigozhin's not actually dead....
@SalisburySnake
@SalisburySnake Год назад
Or was already dead? Seems odd to do it in such a way that outsiders can't confirm it was really him.
@JimMork
@JimMork Год назад
Maybe he's sneaking off to Argentina.
@Hans_R._Wahl
@Hans_R._Wahl Год назад
Thank you very much for picking this up - and for the recommendation to Denys!
@stevekerr4538
@stevekerr4538 Год назад
We could coin a new phrase for this incident being a ‘crash of convenience’ for a certain leader
@maxmoo3275
@maxmoo3275 Год назад
This does NOT benefit Putin.
@nathandanner4030
@nathandanner4030 Год назад
Ron Brown comes to mind.
@uwekonnigsstaddt524
@uwekonnigsstaddt524 Год назад
@@maxmoo3275Ron Brown benefited Clinton
@moshet842
@moshet842 Год назад
@@maxmoo3275 How do you figure?
@Mentaculus42
@Mentaculus42 Год назад
@@maxmoo3275 Warnings to the elite in Vlad Land!!
@tecnaman9097
@tecnaman9097 Год назад
The only thing we know for sure is that Girkin didn't pull the trigger this time. So is this the end of Wagner now? As Mr Churchill said of Russia "It is a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma".
@Aviation1400
@Aviation1400 Год назад
There’s another angle of the crash that shows the legacy in what appears to be missing it’s left wing and at least both horizontal stabilizers
@manofcultura
@manofcultura Год назад
The fact it’s not breaking up. I would surmise it’s a MANPAD that hit it. An A2A or SAM would do enough to shred a civilian craft of that size.
@runrau9275
@runrau9275 Год назад
Yes, also still photo's of the stabilizers a few miles away in a field.
@lonnywilcox445
@lonnywilcox445 Год назад
@@manofcultura 28,000 feet would be at the high end of effective MANPAD range. Most of the A2A missiles have relatively small warheads, just enough to get the fragmentation portion up to 6,000fps. It will blow chunks off a plane but not likely to shred it a la Top Gun. My guess is this was an IR seeker A2A missile. Why IR? Because even a "civilian" plane used by someone who runs a mercenary group is going to have a radar warning receiver in it. With an IR missile the attacking plane wouldn't have even had to turn on the radar to get an IR lock. They wouldn't have known they were being hunted until the plane was falling out of the sky.
@badmonkey2222
@badmonkey2222 Год назад
​@@manofculturamanpads can't reach 25000 ft it was either a BUK or an S-400
@vstaritz
@vstaritz Год назад
@@manofcultura Not really actually. It comes down to some level of luck but the Ukrainian 737 that was shot down by Iranian AA over Tehran couple years ago was airborne for quite a while before it eventually hit the ground. It was directed where it eventually crashed. It is a much bigger craft but it was a static SAM that did it. A Tor or Buk afair.
@jordillach3222
@jordillach3222 Год назад
Some photos of the wreckage show what looks like shrapnel dents and perforations on the fuselage which suggests a missile strike. Actually, that bigger cloud of smoke looks very much like a missile blast.
@robertstennett7566
@robertstennett7566 4 месяца назад
According to the Russian investigating team it was a hand grenade that exploded in the interior of the plane.
@LarsLarsen77
@LarsLarsen77 Год назад
That's what happens when your weight and balance is radically altered by a missile/bomb.
@hb1338
@hb1338 Год назад
Most Russian military explosions are started by somebody smoking in the wrong place.
@PauldeSwardt
@PauldeSwardt Год назад
Shout out to the Brazilian Embraer Legacy 600 - Goto private jet choice for private military leaders!
@JimMork
@JimMork Год назад
Flawed. Can't outrun ground to air missiles.
@user-pf5xq3lq8i
@user-pf5xq3lq8i Год назад
If that is true then the mechanic could have planted something. The way it came down like a lawn dart suggests the wing was blown clean off.
@ElectroAtletico
@ElectroAtletico Год назад
Dang, he didn't get pushed out of building, he got BLOWN UP!!
@irvmaduro
@irvmaduro Год назад
I saw another video with a wing missing on its way down. Looking at the trail of white smoke just after the incident in the air, looks like a missile attack.
@perkinscurry8665
@perkinscurry8665 Год назад
The fact that his name was on the manifest doesn't necessarily mean he was on the aircraft, just that someone wants us to think so. I think authorities were a little to forthright with this information for me to believe it without some skepticism. Wouldn't surprise me if he was killed in a basement somewhere and his body dissolved in acid and that his name was put on the manifest as a cover.
@mcnultyssobercompanion6372
@mcnultyssobercompanion6372 Год назад
I mean, I wouldn't put anything past Russia, but you'd have to get to Pregozhin first. My guess is, particularly since the failed coup, he was surrounded around the clock by a small army of well-paid mercenaries armed to the teeth. Why send in a commando squad to do all that fighting when you can just remotely shoot his plane out of the sky? Anything's possible, but this arrogant stooge had apparently been in and out of Russia several times the past few months. Russia appears to have been ready this time. I won't celebrate the violence, but I won't mourn this foul man. I say good riddance. I mourn every Ukrainian civilian who's been murdered as well as every brave Ukrainian fighter who's fallen. Slava Ukraine.
@richardpark3054
@richardpark3054 Год назад
Or maybe he's already enjoying champagne and ouerduerve in Argentina. He was/is a powerful & savvy mercenary with decades of experience. Is it beyond belief that he's arranged to be 'killed' and, therefore, disappear?
@jasoncarswell7458
@jasoncarswell7458 Год назад
If the Russians tell you it is noon, assume it's actually midnight.
@Pentium100MHz
@Pentium100MHz Год назад
@@richardpark3054 No, it isn't. He could have easily got a body double to fly in that plane with his passport. I'm sure the bodies in the ground are quite mangled by the crash and a possible fire, that identification may take a while. But, he was on the passenger list and maybe his passport was found in the wreck. Of course, if he was not on the plane, then he will be really quiet for a while, plotting.
@OceanSwimmer
@OceanSwimmer Год назад
​@@Pentium100MHz Spooky thought! Putin won't sleep easy until DNA confirmation is made, if possible.
@kittonsmitton
@kittonsmitton Год назад
Thanks he was on the passenger log some say he was absent.
@EdwardKilner
@EdwardKilner Год назад
I’ve been a serious amateur photographer since 1971. How come I never seem to point my camera into the sky and catch an initial explosion on an aircraft carrying an infamous person? I am very sorry for the loss of the 3 crew members. Another war crime, I’m sure.
@jamesphillips2285
@jamesphillips2285 Год назад
Cellphones are often poorer cameras; but are easier to have on-hand.
@badmonkey2222
@badmonkey2222 Год назад
War crime? What the ones he committed? This guy was a mass murderer of children an elderly people his people killed Ukrainian pows with a sledgehammer, there's nobody going to miss that thug the world is a much better place without this monster. And what's actually quite comforting is the fact that it looks like he had that whole way down to think about the atrocities he committed and Ukraine before impact. Good riddance.
@notreallyme425
@notreallyme425 Год назад
What a coincidence!!!
@bigd4366
@bigd4366 Год назад
They probably heard the explosion and got out their cell phone.
@jerseyshoredroneservices225
Because as hard as you try, you cant be in as many places as all the other people with cameras. Dont think of this video as being captures by a person, it was captured by the network of people across the world. Also, I suspect that you haven't been shooting in a target rich environment such as a war zone.
@zambia61
@zambia61 Год назад
Really enjoy your channel. Thank you for your hard work in providing excellent factual content.
@daneast
@daneast Год назад
Just saw another camera shot of it falling (amazing how many people caught it from the ground - they must have heard an explosion which prompted them to look up). The plane is clearly missing a wing - appears to be the port side wing. Also apparently a wing was found two miles away from the wreckage.
@ricklowers8873
@ricklowers8873 Год назад
Juan, at the point where you paused the video; it appears the aircraft is falling tail first at that point. “Tumbling” is about all you can say for how it came out of the sky.
@hewhohasnoidentity4377
@hewhohasnoidentity4377 Год назад
Actually I like JB description of "ass over tea kettle."
@OOpSjm
@OOpSjm Год назад
It lost the tail and started tumbling.
@livethefuture2492
@livethefuture2492 Год назад
"The higher you go the further you have to fall", quite literally this time as it would seem
@jasoncarswell7458
@jasoncarswell7458 Год назад
I am still unconvinced that Prigozhin would be so stupid as to put both himself and his XO on the same aircraft... and then put both their names on the passenger manifest. I'll believe it when I see the bodies.
@kevinmadore1794
@kevinmadore1794 Год назад
Amen. Why would a guy of his stature fly over the heart of the Russian Federation in a jet registered to his company knowing full well what Putin does to his enemies? It makes zero sense.
@truracer20
@truracer20 Год назад
It's the new USSR, nothing can be believed from them.
@feelincrispy7053
@feelincrispy7053 Год назад
Yep I’m with you. He’s known to have many body doubles as well
@harveywallbanger3123
@harveywallbanger3123 Год назад
Agreed, it smells like maskirovka. But we'll find out quickly because Wagner won't be able to hide the death of their leaders for long if it's true.
@mvd4436
@mvd4436 Год назад
He knew that if the govt wanted him gone, he'd be gone anyway. He violated the terms of his exile and had to go
@richb313
@richb313 Год назад
Thanks for adding your experience to the list of people questioning this crash.
@tedstriker754
@tedstriker754 Год назад
The way it was falling flat like it was, it seems the horizontal tail was gone, And most of the wing is gone. If the tail was intact, it would have probably been nose down like a missile. It was a fuselage in a flat position. That kept it's speed down somewhat as evidenced by intact pieces like an engine, cockpit windows.
@wngimageanddesign9546
@wngimageanddesign9546 Год назад
The later photos of the wreckage reveals the fuselage peppered with small impact holes indicative of a ground-to-air missile munition.
@JT-sr2pl
@JT-sr2pl Год назад
There are videos of the missile trails.
@JT-sr2pl
@JT-sr2pl Год назад
And photos of small ball bearing type holes in a piece of the fusilage.
@JT-sr2pl
@JT-sr2pl Год назад
​@@theaviator06one called 'Moscow calling'
@doublebass1985
@doublebass1985 Год назад
its missing a wing, plus the way it falls is indicative of a loss of wing the way it steeply dives down and then kinda flutters and then dives again.
@crushingvanessa3277
@crushingvanessa3277 Год назад
Glad to see your take on this. You explained a lot looking at this from a normal accident view. Interesting to is that they identified him so quickly. Or is that a normal amount of time.
@brunodavidferreira5781
@brunodavidferreira5781 Год назад
Here,in Brazil 🇧🇷, at 1965/66, dictator Castello Branco,was shoot down by a Brazilian Air force T33(SHOOTING STAR) much similar like this Embraer BJ....
@id10t98
@id10t98 Год назад
That wasnt a plane crash. That was debris falling from a plane that blew up.
@davidpowell3347
@davidpowell3347 Год назад
something to remember is that when a breakup or explosion at great distance and/or altitude occurs there is a delay of on the order of a couple seconds or more between when something wrong first can be seen and when the initial sounds from the explosion are heard by a ground observer. There is a formula for determining the distance from the observer if the exact time of the delay is known. The same thing as trying to determine the distance from a lightening discharge to an observer who compares the time of the visible flash to the resultant "thunder" (lightening discharges might occur over a longer time than an "instant" and can have great length causing the initial sound to come from more than one point of direction towards the observer and have some duration) I would think an out of control falling metal aircraft would make a great deal of aerodynamic noise different than normal flight noise more or less all the way from the precipitating incident crippling it to the ground impact
@localcrew
@localcrew Год назад
Looks like the “Donuts on a Rope” contrail like from a fast, fast missile. That’s a thing, isn’t it? Some intel guys could chime in here.
@aidenschvatkok5732
@aidenschvatkok5732 Год назад
I haven’t heard anyone mention donuts on a rope contrails in years
@jmi5969
@jmi5969 Год назад
No intel necessary, just googlemap Kuzhenkino and see the military bases around it. There's all sorts of SAMs and AAMs.
@localcrew
@localcrew Год назад
@@aidenschvatkok5732 I try to work it into conversations as much as possible.
@thomasbell7033
@thomasbell7033 Год назад
Thanks again, Juan. I'm an aviation writer and I appreciate your narrative approach to these incidents, refusing to engage in outrageous speculation before all the facts are in. We pilots are compulsive second guessers.
@PizzaChet
@PizzaChet Год назад
That dense cloud to the left looks a lot like the mushroom shape of an air-to-air detonation. No surprise. Just like MH 17.
@Zarcondeegrissom
@Zarcondeegrissom Год назад
and the perforations and multiple crash sites for the aircraft parts, a lot of MH17 similarities. except one was mostly Dutch/Malaysian/Australian/etc passengers, the other a rebellious russian leader destoned to eventually fall multiple stories out a basement window.
@gporzio55
@gporzio55 Год назад
I believe MH17 was brought down by a SAM, not an air-to-air missile.
@hb1338
@hb1338 Год назад
Air-to-air or ground-to-air.
@earlhuff7847
@earlhuff7847 Год назад
@@gporzio55 I don't disagree but at that altitude I lean more towards air to air. My uncle is a retired fighter pilot and we discussed this last night. He is convinced air to air, that white smoke that Juan pointed to is classic prox detonation. I am just speculating but my uncle has seen that stuff first hand and I trust his opinion. The missle could have been fired miles away and the fighter that launched already egressed out of the area. There would be no need for evasive action after launching he is well within his own area.
@JimMork
@JimMork Год назад
That plane came to mind, too. Difference is that those passengers had done no business with Putin at all. They might actually have been victims of Malaysian airlines management. There was no need to fly over that field of battle. It was a risky choice. Mostly saved a little fuel IF IT MADE IT to the destination. Instead the fuel was splattered all over a battlefield.
@KateEmCCOffDuty
@KateEmCCOffDuty Год назад
Who’s surprised? Great video as always, thanks.
@nothandmade9686
@nothandmade9686 Год назад
That is one high window to fall from.
@skyhawk_4526
@skyhawk_4526 Год назад
I'm hearing from my contacts at the FSB that the final report for this "accident" has already been completed and was submitted over a month ago.
@moxievintage1390
@moxievintage1390 Год назад
I did see a clip with a wing clearly absent--the left one, I believe. There apparently was another aircraft, in their envoy, also in the area--just landed from what I heard. An interesting one for sure. THANKS Juan!
@vadim7590
@vadim7590 Год назад
to translate the lady filming, aside from cursing, she does say it was shot down.
@deniseellenburg649
@deniseellenburg649 Год назад
Wow! Someone actually caught this crash with a camera! Wild!
@paulstaney325
@paulstaney325 Год назад
Glad you bothered to report this incident, was hoping you would, always enjoy your clean, consis analysis of these events. As always, my hat's off to you Jaun. Keep up your excellent work !
@JohnTrombley
@JohnTrombley Год назад
You are right on top of these events, Thanks
@fixanypc
@fixanypc Год назад
that cone shaped puff of smoke is the classic signature of a continuous rod warhead of an air to air short range missile. Based on previous data I have seen and the fact that Russian MANPADS systems used exclusively blast fragmentation warheads I am fairly confident this plane was purposefully shot down with more than likely with a Vympel R-60 (NATO AA-8 "Aphid") Air to air missile launched from a Russian Air Force fighter. With this being so close to Moscow its is nearly impossible with this to be a shot from a foreign missile especially given the impact trajectory in the video.
@christopherrobinson7541
@christopherrobinson7541 Год назад
There are also ground launched versions of the air-to-air missiles that also use the same type of warhead.
@poneill65
@poneill65 Год назад
I saw reports that the tail and engines (which are back by the tail) were found some miles away from where the fuselage and wings fell. Most likely an anti air missile that targeted the engines and blew the tail off (if not a bomb in the rear)
@OOpSjm
@OOpSjm Год назад
Correct, the tumbling debris in the video is just the main fuselage.
@somaday2595
@somaday2595 Год назад
But what about the sound of the engines?
@poneill65
@poneill65 Год назад
@@somaday2595 Apologies, I slightly mis-spoke,.. At least one of the engines stayed on the fuselage (it's seen in the wreckage) and was possibly still running while it had fuel. I believe I read the tail section was found with "an" engine,.. maybe so, maybe not, but the tail/elevators/rudder were certainly found miles from the fuselage, there's pictures and locations published.
@aleclitvinov
@aleclitvinov Год назад
i think a section of a wing is missing, and the trail we see is not smoke, it's fuel from a ruptured tank.
@Morpheus187
@Morpheus187 Год назад
That was shot out of the sky planes don’t just drop. It was at 21,000 feet. It should be going forward but it dropped.
@jtknapp3261
@jtknapp3261 Год назад
It looked like it was missing the empennage from what I could see, an in-flight breakup of some type.
@donwoodward2615
@donwoodward2615 Год назад
Yes shot down
@adamdobrzanski6631
@adamdobrzanski6631 Год назад
Def shot down
@glenmcgillivray4707
@glenmcgillivray4707 Год назад
My hypothesis is explosives next to the engine. Remove tail authority, imbalances thrust output, cripples the aircraft. And who would think to look on top of the engine Nacelle. Except anyone expecting potential assassination. Tragic loss of life for Putin's ambitions. Yet not surprising. Suspect Wagner will continue to be a thing regardless.
@Sshooter444
@Sshooter444 Год назад
they never stall and flat spin?
@foxxster3565
@foxxster3565 Год назад
The aircraft underwent last minute “repairs” which delayed the takeoff. I think it obvious that these repairs involved the figment of a new part. A very explosive part.
@GeorgeSemel
@GeorgeSemel Год назад
Dan Gryder will have it all sorted out for us on Sunday!
@REB4444
@REB4444 Год назад
No way they would know this quick that there were 10 dead bodies. When a plane crashes like this, there are body parts everywhere. Plus they were burnt also, so it would take days to determine how many bodies there are. This plane was clearly brought down from how it was coming down. For the life of me I can't understand how the Wagner guy thought it would end-up any other way after he rebelled. He was a dead man walking the minute he made that decision.
@robertstennett7566
@robertstennett7566 4 месяца назад
They would have had to file a flight plan which would include the passenger on board.
@dfxl6587
@dfxl6587 Год назад
Juan, Is that smoke trail against the blue sky at the beginning of the video typical of a missile or rocket attack on an aircraft? Here in Germany they showed slow motion zoomed in views which seem to show the tail and one wing missing.
@christopherrobinson7541
@christopherrobinson7541 Год назад
The smoke is the proximity fuse detonating.
@dwaynemcallister7231
@dwaynemcallister7231 Год назад
The witness said it was missing a wing and after crash parts were still floating down.
@imo8249
@imo8249 Год назад
Believe you're right
@davied5496
@davied5496 Год назад
Yeah, I’d be good to have that that flight if you were talking about between the 737 in the Embro AFB do that one in the future if you can
@hb1338
@hb1338 Год назад
The puffs of white smoke are very similar to those made by certain types of proximity fuse when they fire. Of course there may be other things which create similar smoke clouds.
@Tiger313NL
@Tiger313NL Год назад
Thank you once again, Juan.
@sheldonsmith5662
@sheldonsmith5662 Год назад
There were two Wagner jets in the air. RA-02748, a Legacy 650 was ahead this jet, RA-02795, a Legacy 600. Is it possible that Prigozhin was on the other Wagner jet?
@zapfanzapfan
@zapfanzapfan Год назад
First time I have seen a whole plane fall out of a window...
@jonrobinson6046
@jonrobinson6046 Год назад
Best information from Juan once again. Great job
@Maynardtkrebs
@Maynardtkrebs Год назад
1:04, large white object above falling Embraer is not falling. Appears to be another aircraft. Embraer is missing one wing and tail plane. Jet noise doesn't'' sound as if rotating, so I'm thinking it's a shoot down.
@JSBIRD69
@JSBIRD69 Год назад
I'd love to ear the Cee Eye Aye's alibi regarding their wherabouts during this crash.
@jeffshafer9079
@jeffshafer9079 Год назад
That looks exactly like the Blue Angels 5 jet I saw in Niagara Falls back in ‘85. Opposing solo hit it and knocked the vertical stab off. Man, when that happens it’s just flat spin all the way down.
@fungalcoffee
@fungalcoffee Год назад
Honestly at this point i wouldn't call it an accident. I guess all Wagner's leaders falling out of the same window would be too obvious for the Russians
@Gregorius421
@Gregorius421 Год назад
Nothing is too obvious for russians, but there wasn't a window big enough. /s
@NotAnonymousNo80014
@NotAnonymousNo80014 Год назад
Try starting a private army in the US, than turn on the establishment. You won't even get to your plane and it will be all over the news as a warning to others.
@haqvor
@haqvor Год назад
They have found parts of the aircraft a few km from the crash site. From what I saw the paint matches the vertical stab and another part that looked like one of the elevators. It remains to be seen if Prigozjin was actually on the aircraft.
@russlehman2070
@russlehman2070 Год назад
It appears that another enemy of Putin has met with an unfortunate accident. Funny how that keeps happening.
@badmonkey2222
@badmonkey2222 Год назад
Keeps happening? It's been happening for 20 years, any political rival of Putler either falls out of window gets poisoned to death or is in jail or breaking rocks in Siberia, or in this case eating a surface-to-air missile for lunch. Nothing surprising at all. It actually surprises me though that he got to him before the Ukrainians did because they wanted him more than they wanted Pootin for what he did and Ukraine and the murdering of Ukrainian civilians and pows.
@larryfisher7056
@larryfisher7056 Год назад
Don't forget that his organization was supposedly involved of cheating Hillary out her "turn".....
@alexanderordinary2110
@alexanderordinary2110 Год назад
Yup, in russia death by "putinitus" is very common....
@vonfragesq7145
@vonfragesq7145 Год назад
Looks like Putin took a page out of the Clinton playbook.
@wreckum56
@wreckum56 Год назад
Sounds like a Hillary deal.
@markusp9569
@markusp9569 Год назад
There´s also a video which shows, that the aircraft was missing one wing
@halmc8109
@halmc8109 Год назад
"Ass over tea kettle" one of my dad's favorite expression. First time I've heard it for decades -- thanks for the fond memories.
@LtNduati
@LtNduati Год назад
I think everyone in the world knew that was not an accident the moment word had gone out that the Wagner group leader was possibly on board and was in Russia
@pezpengy9308
@pezpengy9308 Год назад
i usually get a catch in my throat watching your accident videos... but on this one i cant stop giggling!!!!
@tadecker82
@tadecker82 Год назад
Considering it's owned by Wagner, this was OBVIOUSLY not an "accident". I guess it's safe to say that the leadership of Wagner has been "removed".
@richardpark3054
@richardpark3054 Год назад
"Don't count your chickens before they're hatched."
@jasoncarswell7458
@jasoncarswell7458 Год назад
They're counting on people who think it's "safe to say".
@jacksos101
@jacksos101 Год назад
A private jet and a few lives is a pretty cheap price to pay to enjoy a wealthy retirement sipping cocktails by the beach someplace far, far away...
@JimMork
@JimMork Год назад
Does someone in Wagner now get a promotion? Someone more docile?
@flymachine
@flymachine Год назад
The tail plane is missing in that fall scenario, you can see it better on other videos - falling quite flat at first RIP
@benoithudson7235
@benoithudson7235 Год назад
The plane is definitely resting in pieces.
@RogerHanks-z2e
@RogerHanks-z2e Год назад
Hi. Thank you for what you do Brother. I have read alot of comments. This aircraft was more than likely shot down by a air to air proximity missle. What most people don't understand is that the missle was more than likely fired at a distance of 30 to 40 miles away. It could be 50 to 60 miles away depending on the missle that was used. The missle type doesn't acutely hit the aircraft but instead it explodes in the proximity of the targeted aircraft also the aircraft isnt taken down by a explosive warhead if you will, but its taken down by small shrapnel from the missle warhead exploding next to the aircraft. Covert operators have been know to use nuts and bolts and other commen materials in these types of missle to cover up thier handy work, but a tell tell sign of foul play is lots of holes throughout the fuselage of said aircraft, not saying it happen to this aircraft? But just saying? Take care. Hawk out!!
@ChrisRaynorMD
@ChrisRaynorMD Год назад
I was waiting to see what your assessment was on this. Thanks for the update!
@eartha911
@eartha911 Год назад
Sometimes you just can't poison them, right Vlad?
@GaryCameron
@GaryCameron Год назад
He wanted to send a real message and make it super obvious.
@earlhuff7847
@earlhuff7847 Год назад
Long time watcher, I rarely comment, just here to learn and observe. My Uncle retired from USAF about 20 years ago after a 25 years and we discussed this last night. That puff of the smoke in the sky is classic proximity detonation missle debri. While we will probably never know for sure, my uncle said without a doubt that is exactly what this is. He was a F16 instructor for years and knows what that stuff looks like. BTW he flew THUDS in Vietnam and never shot down, lucky guy.
@christopherrobinson7541
@christopherrobinson7541 Год назад
I agree that is the smoking-gun.
@MrShenron89
@MrShenron89 Год назад
I'm actually surprised it took this long. I thought he was going to "jump" to his death from some sort tall building / structure.
@Kevinmaino
@Kevinmaino Год назад
Hey Juan, would love a breakdown of the ferry flight Embraer with the Gol 737 in Brazil.
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