It’s like he felt he had to prove he was more important than her instead of realizing that him having her is a POINT for him he pulled the world gymnast! When did men stop realizing your woman being a prize means YOU GOT A PRIZE, they turned into this competition thing, never marry a man who’s in competition with you or who feel threatened by your success
I felt this too. He’s got a huge ego. I took the question as in he was being complimented for being with Simon Biles instead he took it as an insult or he felt diminished for no reason and decided to spin the narrative to center himself 😢 smdh He could have answered the questions in sooo many other ways
Unpopular opinion, I don't think it's healthy for women to be characterized as prizes to be won. I think it further leans into the idea of objectification of women, as if they are not real people but trophies to be won and then discarded once the glory of winning fades away.
@@briolivia yeah they are. I’ve dated outside of black men. Girl, just sassy and whiny too. It’s really not about divesting, there is no holy grail of a specific race to date/marry. The goal should be to find love and a healthy relationship with whomever suits you.
RIGHT! We only know him as Simone's husband ...no name needed as it doesn't matter to us but she does seem happy with him so that's good for her...but whoooo chile these men can definitely be in competition...smh
If you saw the interview, he repeatedly says he didn’t know who she was until they were somewhere ... and she jumps in softly outside of frame and corrects him to say it was when they went out for milk and cookies ... He finishes the story and said “we walked into the place and all these moms were there with their daughters, little girls. She walks in and, all of a sudden, everybody stops. Their jaws drop and all the girls start shaking, like ‘is THAT ....... ???’ and they all start handing me their phones for me to take their picture” 😂😂you know he can’t handle this
As a black woman I used to think that the treatment I got from black men was because I didn’t have everything together when I was younger. But by the time I was a beautiful, fit, intelligent woman with a masters from an Ivy league degree and a promising career I finally had to face the truth. As Stephanie mentions these men will put looks above everything. Even as an exceptional woman in general, these black men were still trying to take off points because I am an unambiguous black woman. Once I stopped dealing with black men and only dated nonblack men that’s when things clicked. Ofcourse I’m the prize but when you deal with a group of self hating men you will always be second class to a non black woman no matter what she does or doesn’t have going for her. Go where you’re appreciated, greatest lesson black women can learn. These men have told you in as many ways as possible they don’t actually like y’all. It’s time to leave them alone and chose yourselves.
Needed to be said for the generation coming up to dating f’ real. So sad so true. When are black men going to acquire some cultural/social maturity. No question mark.
Women are not the prize, men are not the prize. The true prize is a safe and loving union where you both see the value in each other. What a prize to have that!
I'm not a Christian but a lot of black men claim to subscribe to that, and their book says a man that has found a good wife has found a good thing (essentially). I have not seen the equivalent in the Bible for a woman. So that would make the woman the prize by their book.
Let’s not judge. She has a great reputation and has been in the media for many years. No way she’d risk that by being confrontational about a personal issue on a podcast segment. We have no idea how she handled this behind closed doors.
@@sparklyunicorn5431you actually asking why it’s a problem for a man to think he’s better looking than his female partner? 🙄 It plays in how that man will treat the woman in relationship. He will dog her out whenever he gets because he will think he settled for her because she’s not who he’s attracted to. And if the day came he got the chance to be with a woman who he thought was attractive he will start cheating on her left and right then leave her. He will look at her as a OPTION and not care if she stay or go. You need to watch how men will do a complete 360 for a woman they find attractive. Where you are crying because your man never takes you out watch that same man show up to the door with roses for a woman he VALUES and finds attractive. Men know what to do if they are not doing it it’s because they don’t want to.
He said she DM’d her. He said he didn’t know who she was but he saw that she had “a bunch” of followers I’m not on there but by a “bunch,” of followers, I’m pretty sure he means 900thousand million billion trillion gazillion of them/ aka more than he’s ever seen for anyone he’s ever known in this life. . Lol - there’s such an need and effort to minimize her. The girl ain’t but four and a half feet or whatever but let’s not shrink her down to sixe even further. Let’s properly acknowledge just who she is.
I think it's really weird to marry someone who's super successful and decorated and well-known for their incredible athletic ability and then turn around and act like they're nothing special. That's some hater ass shit.
I mean I’m not surprised. This is the same person who said she wants ZENDAYA to star as her in a biopic. It says a lot about her self image and what she idolizes.
@Kelema86 She wants Zendaya because she’s also at the top of her game and as a half black woman has also made HISTORY. y’all need to stop coming for zendaya. The conscious or unconscious jealousy is real.
Simone could have had anyone, and she still chose dust. This $hit is depressing. I give it a few years until the cheating allegations start. And it’ll be with a… never-mind.
It's the sassy man apocalypse, ya'll. That's all this is. I don't think Simone has the necessary people around her to help her open her eyes. I pray she does. He's a liability.
That’s my biggest thing about it. I just hope that her friends and her family will let her know like what’s up and sadly I really think they won’t. I think they will continue going along with her not giving her any advice, especially from a woman to another woman or even a guy figure to help her out and kind of see what’s been shown, but truly, I don’t think she has that not even with her friends who knows her. I don’t really think they’ll help her to see how bad this interview was.
Saying you don't know who Simone Biles is as a male professional athlete is like saying you don't support women's sports or think that they're relevant. Like bffr, Simone is like Serena Williams: a modern-day legend, and she's STILL young.
He lied. There’s no way. Simone was on every commercials during those top years. He is a professional athlete even saying that is insane. Gold medals, and decorated with records.
Nah Serena Williams is global and an icon. She was also a sex symbol. Do not compare this child most men do not know ( because she’s not a sex symbol, I think she’s attractive, but a lot of men don’t). Also Serena is huge because she’s fine and accomplished over 2decades worth.
@@lambousginiguccigod2007he's a pro football player. When was he supposed to get trained to play against her? The Olympics only happen every 4 years. It's not like she goes out every year and dominates. I forgot when she even won the first time. That was a long time ago.
Such a red flag that he is saying men are “always” the prize. It’s giving misogyny. My guess is he is suffering from inferiority complex because he is a failed football player who is married to one of the greatest athletes of all time. I don’t believe for a second that he didn’t know who she was. You gotta be living under a rock to not have heard of her. Even if you never watched a gymnastics tournament in your life how could you possibly have missed all the headlines? Just weird af. And then him being so adamant to let us know SHE chased him and he wasn’t really feeling it and “fought” her… why? Why do you want the world to know that, even if it’s true? Why is it so important for you to humiliate your wife and paint her as desperate? My guess is that he probably has been told before that he is lucky to have bagged Simone Biles and he feels some type of way (inferiority complex) and now he wants to let everyone know this woman courted HIM, because HE is the baddie 💀 But oh well, if Simone likes it, I love it. It’s her marriage.
You KNOWWW that there isn’t a day that goes by that people don’t remind him of his insignificance and how lucky he is to be with her. This was his opportunity to be like “I’m the prize”, boy you wish lmaoo. I’m done holding out hope for the collective of black women, the girlies that get it get it and those that don’t will just have to keep getting embarrassed by their so called prizes smh.
@@lynnd.5135never mind I thought Biles’ husbands name was Channing Crowder and he was the one who attacked Russel. He didn’t. My bad. He still got red flags tho.
Truthfully I looked up his Facebook and saw his old posts from before the NFL and Simone Biles. He’s dated women that look like her and aren’t ambiguous, light skinned etc. I think when he said that he wasn’t sure about messaging her he meant it as he wanted to be single and hook up with girls before settling down. When I watched his interview I felt sorry for her and I’m tired of black women always being downplayed by their partners in front of others.
It is so sad lately to see so many successful, amazing Black women being embarrassed and dogged out by the men claiming to love them 😭 Just abysmal treatment. She deserves so much better!
When a man publicly admits he’s the prize and never mentions how beautiful and lucky he is to have you as his wife/girlfriend it’s a problem you shouldn’t ignore 🚩
No other group of men acts this sassy and toxic. Its becoming embarrassing. He would never be "the prize" in any other relationship or universe outside the black community.
Yes but also no, I think when it comes to black women doing the chasing the result is the same. Think of Jodie Turner Smith, her ex also embarrassed her and said how she proposed to him. Black women don’t know how many clues y’all need, stop pursuing these men. No your worth and stop accepting less. I used to in my younger days also naively pursued men, don’t play yourself.
I just think the concept of “the prize” is so…simplistic and juvenile that it should just be thrown out entirely. I’m the prize because I’m beautiful? Because I’m young? Because I have a 401k? The real prize is finding love with someone you want who wants you back, and having a healthy, loving, collaborative relationship that makes you both better for it. You could have all the money, or all the talent, or all the looks but if you just bring me problems and self doubt then you can keep your “prize” on a dusty shelf for all I care.
I wish people would take their egos out of relationships. He could have told his story and how happy he was to have her without even mentioning a “prize”. The prize talk needs to go anyway in 2024 because it started from the manosphere.
To be fair, he didn’t bring it up. Ryan Clark said it. Playing around with just how ridiculous this all is, RC says “so what you’re saying is you were the catch” (and of course JO follows it up with “I say men are always the catch.”) This whole thing is..... I’m just lost for words.
Lol lowkey I think RC may have been trying to lay him up, to reject that and be like “of course not my girl is the catch be for real!!” and he still didn’t get it … the whole convo started off with how did you you bag THE Simone Biles and then this man was like said no no no how did she bag me???
I didn’t like how one of the guys said, “it’s safe to say you didn’t want Simone Biles”. That was just embarrassing and very telling. So everything he had said about Simone before that moment transferred as he did not want her. He ain’t feeling her like that and it’s so obvious. I don’t think any of the men in the room defended her honor, they just laughed. Some loser man on the Shaderoom said that he is the prize because Simone is mid and average. I really hope she took a mental note and moves accordingly.
I agree the men didn’t really defend her but they seemed a little shocked at his audacity and one guy clearly side eyed him and didn’t believe him when he said he didn’t know who Simone was at first. One of the light skinned guys there was def having a field day with what he said though.
The interview was horrendous. Ryan Clark was being sarcastic with JO but RC didn’t come back and clear his sarcasm up and state what he was intending. When Jonathan said he asked Simone who her competition was and Ryan Clark interrupts and says NOBODY, it’s clear how much rightful respect RC has for Simone ..... as ..... a ....... gymnast ...... but he needs to come back and respect her as a woman, even if it is TO her own husband. He doesn’t do that. I don’t consume a bunch of content erratically. I don’t watch everything. Truly, this interview was the most disappointing thing I’ve seen in awhile. I hope they all come back to clear this up.
The delusion… why do so many black men put down their black celebrity partners? First Kiki then this. They just can’t abandon the podcast mindset. Why do they want to defend their masculinity and ego more than they want to create a happy, lasting relationship. To be so blessed and still have an incel outlook… it’s crazy. Some people will never get it.
They put them down because they really don't want them. They want a Kim K, but had to settle for a Simone. They resent that and they resent their partner.
Him saying he didnt know who Symone Biles is, is crazy. She is one of the most decorated gymnasts in the country, and has had status prior to some of her most record breaking events. If anything we were all asking " WHO IS HE" chilee
No shade, but can we get this right? Simone is THE most decorated gymnast, MALE OR FEMALE ever, ANYWHERE. Not just in this country and not “one of”. Give the woman her props, her man sure isn’t.
I wasn’t aware of the interview. I just watched and, I have to say, I’m beyond disappointed that this is public and that it comes at the start of their life together. I honestly can’t wrap my mind around this. I really have no words. He says nothing good about her. She is his new WIFE. There’s nothing there ... nothing loving expressed for her ... nothing in his eyes, nothing in the inflection of his voice ..... no warmth, no tender words, no radiance in a smile to her, no kindness towards her, the outward joy of being with the woman he loves .... I don’t know. Really stunned at this.
It’s as if he completely eliminates her as a person. In addition to his not knowing anything she’s done athletically or as her life’s work, he can’t think to say anything personally important about her .... as his wife, ... that she is loving, kind, attractive, beautiful, endearing, captivating, funny, sweet, intelligent ... or that there’s any one thing specific to the two of them as a couple that drew and joined them together. There is just nothing about her that he makes mention of. Not as the world’s greatest gymnast or as the woman he chose. It boggles my mind
@@noble604to be fair, he did say they laughed alot and instantly clicked. He did say she helped him rise and better his game. Unfortunately they were all things that benefited him only and fell so flat because of his lack of emotion towards her that it left us all wondering puzzled and feeling sad for her. Everybody that says we're reading too much into is not being genuine or can't read social cues. Because there was alot missing here. We all know love when we see it. Or at least what should have been displayed publicly as a celebrity couple.
safirestudio - For me, I hold far less expectation of a celebrity couple to be emotionally sincere and honest in front of a camera. For the most part, ( just imo,) people in front of a camera are acting.............. but .... when they choose not to give anything at all on camera? That I believe. I’ve grown to think much of what we see from celebrities is very far from the realty when talking about their own lives/ just an “image” to be consumed by the public to further the life of the celebrity. The fact that he did not crack a smile towards her, give a sparkle in his eyes, display any kind of warmth to or about her at all -- even while being in *front of the camera, and in a position to serve himself and his own “brand” -- now that is what concerned me. If you give nothing at all in public when it could help and serve you, why would you give anything in private when there’s nothing in it for you to get? I’m most inclined to believe this behavior is “their reality.”
But I feel like this is a classic example of what happens when women date their “type” rather than a guy who has good character. Why wouldn’t he feel like the prize when she literally pursued him and drove 45 minutes to go see him. Black women please stop the desperation 😬😅it just makes us look stupid . The only reason he committed was because she has money
I think the problem for me is that Simone could have gotten her type with good character. I just think she wasn't patient enough, and felt like she had to settle for just the superficial instead of waiting for the whole package.
@@boochi7087from what I’ve read she definitely has had body image issues and people making fun of her body type being more muscular so that could’ve been a big factor with her feeling like dating wasn’t working well for her. So she chose to settle for this guy that decided to swipe on her for fun.
His lack of commitment so obvious from the beginning. For him not to offer to at least meet in the middle. Also the men are alway the prize reeks of entitlement and lack of respect for women. So many red flags.
I'm concerned that he was seemingly living under a rock for years. He's an athlete, so I'd imagine he'd be in circles with other athletes in general. How could he not know who one of the most celebrated and decorated athletes is? I dont give a dang about any sport and never have, and even I managed to learn about Simone Biles just from social media. Anytime she breaks a record or makes history, which at this point is every time, she's in the news rotation for weeks. I really feel like he was just trying to downplay it by acting like he didn't know who she was. I'd imagine that ego creeped up quickly. Here she is, a GOAT in her field and as an athlete in general, and he's nowhere near that.
I didn’t believe him for a second he didn’t know who she was. The hosts didn’t even believe him. Trying to make it seem like he was so focused on his football career that isn’t even all that that he didn’t know about possibly the best athlete in the world.
Steph remember when you made that video about why you don’t want to pursue men? This makes a great case for why it rarely works out when the woman makes the first move. I know I’ll probably get people responding and wanting to tell me I’m wrong because they know this and that couple where the woman made the first move and they have been happily married for years, blabla. I don’t care. This right here has made me even more convinced I’m never approaching a man first.
I think I agree with you. I also think that she did initially was ok in that she showed interest in a dating site. What she did that made me cringe for her is that she didn’t wait for him to show willing by coming to see her. She drove to see him and he just sat there like a princess. 🤦♀️ Even if you signal interest first on a dating site, wait for the man to clearly indicate with his actions that he’s interested too!
Yes exactly, she got the marriage but it's with a man that she will always have to chase and wonder if he will stay loyal and faithful. Men say they want to be pursued consciously, but subconsciously they find it a major turn off and will make you pay for it, somehow someway.
You can make a first move aka drop a hint here’s my number if the conversation is going smoothly etc but actively pushing the matter? Or *getting* them to commit and they are fighting you on it? That’s madness
Oh he absolutely gets it, in fact he knows that he’ll forever be in her shadow. He is jealous and insecure, so this was an obvious attempt of humbling her!
I thought the same thing! Another Kiki situation about to happen. She is known around the entire WORLD...I am in Hertfordshire, England, 🇬🇧 I have no idea who he is...still dont know him. I would walk by him in the street. He could walk though London draw no attention. Simone could never😂😂😂😂😂
@@Sarah-kv3qs girl! He gets it, he knows it. To be honest, she might aswell have his baby...what are her options really?? She could divorce him and end up with a crazy.
I saw them on IG a couple years back and yeah, I was kinda surprised they were together because NFL players definitely have a type. However, Simone is very cute and crazy talented and sadly she still chose be the pursuer. Young women are sometimes just as shallow as men are, yet they will be more hurt by not being top choice in attraction than vice versa. This is not promising for a long, happy marriage.
@Kelema86 Simone is not shallow. Far from it! She just didn’t know it wasn’t her place to chase. Especially a woman of her stature. She’s learning the hard way. Like many have before her. And will continue afterwards.
My initial thoughts are the same as yours in regards to Simons Biles aesthetic. I’m a firm believer in a man pursuing a woman first, and it definitely didn’t suprise me she pursued him first. It’s like she chose him and he didn’t choose her. I feel like when a woman is the pursuer it sets the tone of the relationship, thus probably why he feels like he the prize🤷🏾♀️ Im not saying its right though.
Sounds like you might be hitting your stride and therefore gaining a more loyal, refined audience. Another successful RU-vidr recently pivoted to go for more quality over quantity in audience numbers, partly so she can speak her truth, even if she losers a few viewers. I respect that. Happy holidays! 🎄
Simone biles got more accolades than that man. She is an internationally recognized athlete and champion. He is just another football player. His net worth is less than hers. How are you the catch if you’re not even acknowledged in the profession you’re in ?? He low key dissed her because she is a female athlete. He basically admitted as a professional athlete that he didn’t hear anything about the American team during the Olympics in the past 10 years… is that not weird asf?? Scan his brain coach.
I wish Simone would’ve held out for a man who adores her. There is a nonblack man at my job who treats me like a queen. And he isn’t even high key pursuing me. It’s clear he’s attracted to me so he goes out of his way for me. I can say, as a 44 year old divorcée who only dealt with BM, this is the best I have been treated by a man not related to me. It’s like night & day and that’s sad.
Lmao…he just wants to sleep with you. Just because he treats you nice doesn’t mean anything. Y’all aren’t in a relationship you don’t know that man for real. Stop being delusional
It is definitely about how black men perceive black women, but not only that. This just proves that men in general will ultimately see your attractiveness as your only real value. Find a man who finds you attractive and that sees being with you as a privilege. It may sound superficial because as women we can easily fall in love and totally respect a man who's not the most beautiful because he's bringing other things to the table. Men don't seem to work like that, you can literally be rich, smart and famous they will see you as disposable if they don't like how you look.
16:09 I understand you on sooooo many levels . And I love how they were kind of defensive of HIS wife 🤔 Simone is SO special to OUR CULTURE! she’s literally going to be in history books …. The ones that have NOTHING to do with sports . She didn’t win a random game she won an OLYMPIC MEDAL. Likeeeeeeee
Thank you for making this video. HOWEVER, I disagree on calling this a “love story.” No man that loves a woman would speak about her like that. I’ve seen real love all my life. The husband (nor wife) would talk about their significant other like that. It’s embarrassing, and I’m so disappointed in this situation. Simone deserves better.
I looove you sis but u tried tooo hard to be unbiased when the facts are: he got with her for the sole purpose that’s she’s who she is! Gold digger, woman do that all the time n so do man-they settle for the right price. That interview screams he doesn’t LOVE her, maybe he likes who she is cuz u can tell she’s a gentle soul that he has gotten to know but he’s aware he settled for the right 💰
I’m not buying that he didn’t know who she was. I’m not willing to accept that at all. There’s a lot that can be said for public belittling/ diminishing/humiliation of one’s partner. That always put me on alert🤨.
WOW! At worst he could have said both are each other's prize. But no. It was him. It's always the man. Just, wow! She is the reason people are even interested in him. I'm single in my mid thirties and sometimes I think I should be happy about being spared - maybe I would have married a man with this mindset.
This honestly makes me so sad. I really thought she found someone that really loved her. I don't understand the desire to publicly embarrass your partner like you decided to marry this person so why are you acting like they're beneath you ? you chose them ! If you're feeling insecure or threatened by your partner's success then go to therapy. Stop opening your mouth in public. Your public comments are permanent and they will never go away.
If he said what he said, your hopes are not being met unless he is a complete idiot who is incapable of surmising the backlash his declaration would illicit on his partner, Simone. It's not possible to dis someone so bad publicly while also meeting the standard you set. 😢
Stephanie you continue you be so kind, compassionate & so graceful in how you evaluate these situations. Thank you for that❤❤ But that man is liar! He most definitely knew who she was but that’s all I’ll say cause I’m going to follow your lead.🥴☺️
I think if you and your partner are equally yoked, then you both will see each other as the "prize". To me, being the "prize " means valuing your partner. If y'all don't value each other, then why are y'all together?
I agree about the surprise factor of them together, so it’s interesting to hear what he said on that podcast. If my partner continued to speak about how I wasn’t his type after we’re married I would be very disappointed. Completely unflattering and shows a lack of respect for her.
Ugh, I knew Simone’s marriage wasn’t long for the world even without knowing a damn thing about it except for who she was marrying. What a mess. Mark my words, she will suffer before she finally lets him go (hopefully). Hope she has a prenup.
I literally decorated my house watching your christmass vlogs feeling less alone. I didnt plan to do that as I spend Christmass alone but your vlogs brought a little joy. How could people not enjoy them?
So I wanted to know what this man does for a linving because I don't know him and his name kept scaping me so I just Googled Simone Biles husband. That's who You are Sir PS love the sweater
I still remember telling my mom about my 1st HS boyfriend … she told me to make sure I do not like him more than he likes me and to let him be the person that chases.
😂 Lawd these comments. Idk much about the couple. But I know he supports openly and publicly in her career. It may also be the fact that Simon preferred a partner who didn't know much about her. Celebrities often say that. But I do think it's wild to go public and say you weren't that into her at the beginning and that you're the prize. Y'all can both be the prize 🤷🏾♀️
10:36 It wasn't her social status that gave her a leg up. (WHEN ARE WOMEN GONNA UNDERSTAND THAT MEN DON'T CARE ABOUT THAT). What gave her the edge was her femininity/ sweetness / humility/playfulness.
Do not chase men, Beloveds. It isn't love they will give you, but tolerance. Only the barest rung of minimum will you receive from them, and they'll expect you to be grateful for scraps they bestow.
Well what do you expect, black women made fun of her at her wedding talking about her nappy hair. She's been made fun about her looks mostly by black folks her entire life. Can't blame her for wanting something light and pretty. This is about her sanity at this point.
Imagine being THE Simone Biles and still coming second to an instagram “model”- the type these athletes go for. Smdh if this doesn’t let you know how self hating these dudes are, like you get to lay up with one of the greatest but still think she’s the lucky one??? Boy byeeeeeeeee
Design this design that, women have the same general feelings and urges as men. Women don’t pursue men out of fear then eventually decide to never do it because they know guys will, we’re not aliens 😂
😂 a “space cadet” 💀 such a comedian. Love your storytelling. Stephco nails it again! 🔨 Your analysis is right on. From high school to college to the professional league, American black males in particular and more often than not choose a type. Anyone who says otherwise is acting like Ray Charles, blind.
Men are only considered "the prize" in this day and age due to there being an imbalance of eligible men compared to women. I hear a lot of people say that men these days are dating with an abundant mindset and women with a scarcity mindset. These are very unfortunate times for my single sisters.
I find that this exclusively applies to BM only. They are nothing like their counterparts. The only time in recorded history that they have ever built was under EXTREM DURESS WHILST ENSLAVED. They have had ample opportunities in the last 150yrs at least, "AND YET" consistently deflect deflect deflect. Every foe against them is everything and everybody but THEM....SMH
From what Simone has said about her childhood, it would take a lot of healing to not focus on wanting her own family as soon as possible, however it may look..💭 I wish her peace, joy and a partner who can be a good friend to her first before anything else
@@marie-francoiset9402 it’s a difficult situation- I was thinking maybe it would be easier if she wasn’t a celebrity but the thing is, it happens to the everyday person too; the only difference is, it won’t be out there for the whole world to know like that🤷🏽♀️
@@marie-francoiset9402Better position than Keke but still a potential mess. We can only observe as I’m not sure if he’s having a moment of arrogance forgetting who is married to.
Why don’t the content creator just say white girl? Its not ambiguous. These black men don’t even go for the mixed girls, so I don’t understand why she keeps saying ambiguous. Just say white!
I dont think women should persue men. Men know who they want to provide for. The men will think hes the prize and feel she has to chase him. He said that he saw her profile, but would not have went to her dm. Im just thinking he didnt think that ahe was that attracrive to persue. I personally would not be with a man like that.
What are we asking of him? What are we asking of Simone Biles? In our attempt to course correct or hold folks accountable, people have a tendency to react in the same manner no matter the perceived harm or incident. Now some are resorting to saying their relationship is doomed. Others are suggesting that she has low self esteem. While others are suggesting that she is a victim of abuse? So now it appears that folks are shaming her for not responding in the way they deemed appropriate. I get that his responses were immature and may be rooted in some insecurity. However, much of the conversation in other spaces around this interview seems to be weighted down by toxicity. I do appreciate you taking a more nuanced approach to this conversation.
Ok what he said was weird and it could imply some conclusions. But is sending someone a DM and driving to see them once really pursuing someone over the whole course of the relationship. I just think that’s an extreme assumption. I think what he was saying look I was younger in this new city on this new team and I wasn’t looking for anything serious. So when I met my wife I was hesitant to get into a serious relationship.
I need these men to do more PR training or talk less 😅 To your purusing point, I disagree that its an inate thing but honestly I like making the first move. I have absolutely noticed that you can't always do that because it ends up giving certain people too much of an ego boost and then they feel above you for the duration of the time yall talk or whatever. Which seems to be what the interview is showing.
