The Big Cheese has made their money off of the image of the man himself, Walt Disney. But who truly was he, and was Disney the actual creator of Mickey Mouse? Twitter: / knowledgehubty
To b honest, If Walt had complete control over the company, I could understand the contempt for him. However, stock holders were a thing and most of the corporate stuff came years after his death.
It seems to me that these “brainchild” companies become a whole different creature once they hit success and lose control over the decision-making process. EA itself was once a small studio of about a dozen guys intensely passionate about “electronic activities.” Apple stopped being the underdog force of innovation once Steve Jobs left.
Imagine a different timeline where the aspiring artist Walt Disney is denied his Fine Arts degree at University and goes into politics while a young artist called Adolf Schickelgruber is just handing in his end of term papers as best of class.
So are you saying there is an alternate universe where Adolf Schickelgruber studios produced beloved animated films and Walt Disney became the fascist dictator of America? Because that sounds like a great alternate history story.
Isn’t it fascinating that In the 1950’s people where so bored that “funny cartoon man buys a carnival” literally shaped a large portion of how media grew.
Disney world has tunnels underneath large enough to drive vehicles through. I've seen them! The company town of Celebration is the "Disney City" now. Great theme park, but they'd do well to treat employees better!
@BMAN488877 Only if America was a Nazi country that would lead to a mass genocide, even bigger then the Second World War. And besides, would you really like an alternate universe in which the leading animation studio would shout at the audience in German? I think not!
So we're going to gloss over how a private company wanted 20K residents to live within the US borders but not be allowed any say in local government (which most people will agree is the most important)? Like imagine if it took off so every company decided to have their own little corporate fiefdoms.
Since it never happened, why would we hyper focus on it? It probably would of fundamentally changed our laws to not allow for such things. If there is no harm, there is no foul.
Well, it's an interesting case. The entire thing was technically private property. I don't think he really intended for the fiefdom part to take off so much as the city planning aspect of it.
@@jerm70 Company towns have happened in America, over and over again. The original Jamestown. Mining towns in the West in the 1870's. In Metro Detroit, the car companies all created company towns to build their factories in. Disney World has "Celebration" which is their company town. Very strict rules to live there. Employees are underpaid.
So the original version of Epcot was essentially Rapture but on land? No wonder I both like what Disney does but I'm at the same time creeped out by it. It's ironic that an hyper-capitalist utopia city took on Socialistic design choices (central ring, all public transport, etc.) which just encapsulates the 1950s in a nutshell.
Hyper capitalism hasn't really happened yet. A hyper capitalist society looks more like ghost in the shell. Where data far outweighs materials in worth, to the point where even the meager deal in it. He was in the post monopoly era regulated capitalism. Central planning of course is not unique to socialists the biggest difference would be the ability to leave and the fact that epcot would still need to follow federal law. Thus epcot woulda been more like how we treat private camps and other attractions. I'm pretty sure the epcot idea is what inspired atlas shrugged. The game is based on( and really fumbles by relying on a crazy amount of coincidences to criticize the ideas in the book.)
@@trentn1127 that might just be me then cause I always thought of Disney as not as old as it is. You know humans dont quantify in their brains correctly. How the 90s dont feel 20+ years away but oddly the 00s feel ancient now
Less like rapture, and more like an overgrown company town. It was more or less just a planned community, like Savvanah, Georgia was initially, but everything would have been owned by one company. Creepy, yes, but in a corporate authoritarian way, rather than Andrew Ryan's Social Darwinist capitalist-anarchism. It honestly sounds like what would happen if you explaines what an arcology was to someone from the 1930s somewhat poorly, and thats what they would come up with.
Not racism, it's true that Anglosaxons and other European tribes (and those people descended from those tribes) have controlled so much in America. American Industry was made off White people, it wasn't Blacks, Arabs or Hispanics and though they're starting to contribute, they can't do anything about the years of White companies like Disney, etc. It's good that we're starting to see other races do so much (Black people founding and being at the face of businesses, etc) now. Sadly, it was now and not thousands of years ago. Vikings, Romans and other Euro-centric peoples are thought of as conquerors, when it's not just them. We've had Islanders and Native peoples conquer so much, Blacks and Arabs have also conquered, and maybe Latinos conquered? I sound like a SJW for this long-ass block of words, but Whites are largely the face of everything (which the Libtards have correct.)
This is well-timed. I've been reading the biography, "Walt Disney: The Triumph of the American Imagination" after work. It's well worth reading if you have interest in Walt Disney. He wasn't the best at drawing, animating, or directing, but he could tell a good story and he didn't stop at anything to make his dreams a reality. I find that beyond admirable and I hope to gain those qualities myself. His dedication to his visions were tyrannical. For example, many of his animators were disgruntled by the abuse of Disney and turned coat with Charlie Mintz. While he could achieve his dreams and his drive towards innovation are amazing, I can't help but feel that his control of EPCOT wouldn't work out unless he changed himself. Without much doubt, it would have ended up as a real-life Rapture.
I don't know about his storytelling abilities since almost his entire success is from making movies based on the work of others. What Walt Disney really excelled at was management, marketing and business. He could make high quality movies relatively cheaply, get them to a wide audiance and keep a consistent quality. Efficiency was a big part of his success. Others could make movies that were on par with Disney if not superior but they would bankrupt themselves if the movie wasn't a smash hit. Disney could make those movies cheaply enough that he could make a profit from only a modest return. Also marketing was a big thing, he could really sway a crowd and understood that marketing is more important to success than the quality of the movie. Finally he maintained a consistent quality which is something Disney is still known for. Many people go see Disney movies just for the fact that they are Disney movies.
So basically instead of a massive genocide we could have had a massive German cartoon company should an Austrian kid draw a mouse instead of a bunch of swastikas. Interesting
RobPlays, Offhand Disney, and Defunctland have made more in depth history on EPCOT, Reedy Creek, and the Florida Project if anyone is interested on the topics.
Just a thought in Alternate History: if Disney existed in the world of the Southern Victory series, his family home in Missouri/Kansas would be awfully close to the Mason/Dixon line; which is where most of the trench warfare took place. Disney never leaves to France for he might have enrolled joined the war close to home. Again he might have been too young to fight and would still do mercenary work like in our timeline. If he lives till the end of the war (from which the Central powers which America has become part of wins ww1), his family moves to Kansas City, and his ambitions of being a filmmaker flourish. Also within this timeline Ub Iwerks is Ubbe Eert Iwwerks as there was no abolishment of German heritage in ww1 like in our timeline. Maybe because of Disney being closer to the war would mean he’d profit more propaganda cartoons about fighting the south like what he did with fighting Nazis in our timeline. Just a thought.
Oswald deserves better. Epic Mickey took the first major step toward reacquainting folks with the Lucky Rabbit, but with Junction Point having gone under, I wonder who at Disney will succeed Spector and co. in terms of enthusiasm for Mickey’s half-brother.
"You can only expect so much space when in the middle of a city." Anaheim was not a city when Disneyland was built. It was a farm county and Disneyland was built on an orange grove. There was plenty of miles of space but Walt could only buy so much land at the time. And when Disneyland became a hit it drew in many motels and resturants leading to the big city that the area is today.
Let's face it, Disney wouldn't exist today if it wasn't for me. Who was the one that brought it back up from bankruptcy back in the early 80s? Who started the renaissance era of animated movies? That's right, it was me
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My great grandfather was an artist and cartoonist, and just before WW2 he got an offer to work for Disney as an animator. But then the war started and he got drafted so he had to turn down the offer. Although it's cool to think that I'm related to an almost veteran Disney animator.
@@trentn1127Not all of Disney. The executives are the ones screwing the company around, most of the imagineers still keep to how they originally started. But yeah, no company is perfect, usually far from. It's unfortunate to see such an inspiring group fall to the way side.
A little redirection. Ub Iwerks was a very talented man, but he was married to the old style of animation. He was indeed one of, if not the, best animators that worked in the 20s who was very good at making his characters likable and personable. Not only was he very good, but he was very FAST. 600 drawings a day type of fast. In that he was in a league of his own. However, once he left, it actually turned out to be for Disney's benefit. You see, while Iwerks was incredibly talented, his actual animation was fairly close to the industry standards of the time. Once they stopped relying on Iwerks' peerless production, Disney's animators set about revolutionizing the industry by developing modern animation techniques that are still followed to this day. By the time Iwerks was brought back to Disney only 10 years later, the company had made probably the most impressive leap in an artform that we've ever seen. They went from the relatively crude Steamboat Willie and other Mickey shorts, to the ridiculously polished animation of Pinocchio and the other Golden Age films that are in many ways unrivaled to this day in terms of animation craftsmanship. Ub Iwerks, was still only in his 30s when he went back to Disney, but was hopelessly behind the times. And so he worked on special effects. And it turned out he was awesome at that as well.
Similar things happened with John Kricfalusi (creator of Ren & Stimpy) at Nickelodeon studios. Animation studios produce such beauty but are seemingly volatile places to work.
There is no proof of Walt Disney being an antisemite. At all. In fact most people who directly worked with him said he was a very shy but ultimately openhearted man.
I know it's a stupidly minor, pathetic first-world-problem and typical-whiney-people-on-the-internet-are-resistant-to change complaint to have but... the stock footage is really distracting. It really takes me out of the narrative watching unrelated stock footage, especially when it's all glossy and HD and the subject matter is set in the 20s. I get having to keep up with the times and evolving the videos etc etc, but it's really taken that Knowledge Hub style out of the videos. That's part of what made these videos endearing. Who doesn't wanna see a poorly animated jaggedy-lined Walt Disney popping across a map on his journey to Cali?
My grandpa was an animator back in the day and (for a little while) was a competitor of him and Walt Disney was a brutal business man. He told stories about how the guy would walk through the studio and fire people who were shooting the breeze.
I've been to Tivoli. I was 6 years old and I remember it. Disneyland is very much inspired by it. (it's in Denmark for those who want to know,and yea I'm Danish )
