Warning about new Nvidia 4090 scam just hit the market 

And the 2nd mansion came. Magical.

Wow 😅

@@MiriadCalibrumAstar 🤣

if the rest of the card is fine you just need to solder memory and a new di on? hmmm how much was that card?

About 200 bucks 😅

​@@northwestrepair Well, I think we found one way to tell it's fake without looking at it.

@@northwestrepair 😅😅

I paid that much for a used 5700xt during the rona. You are scamming yourself buying anything modern at that price, let alone a 4090.

@@northwestrepair This is a good example of , " You pay peanuts, you get monkeys " . But now the question is, does the fake AD102 core , which you identify as a GA102 3080Ti actually works ??

Heh, I got burned by that one. I still have a Cyrix 5x86 (or something) on a motherboard with all fake cache. The market was so saturated with counterfeits that I stopped buying parts completely until it settled down. Of course then we got hit with the bad capacitors not long after.

@@_droidAtleast with cap plauge if you got soldering skills it's easy to replace the junk parts but it shouldn't have happened in the first place.

Wait what!?🤨 Sure I was merely a teenager at that time..NONETHELESS I was still very interested in PC hardware. And even though it, for whatever reason, at least felt like the general release cadence of CPUs was a lot shorter. While it also very much felt like even recently launched products could get updated/upgraded/improved just as soon as they hit the damn store😳shelves😥😳.. OH!, and on a little side note, or tangent if u will and just a small, tiny one at that☺️.. So this formative time period in my life just so happens to be how, why and when I was forever instilled with a constant state of perpetual 😲f.o.m.o🤤. At least that’s what I’ve been telling myself since..🤔since..well since as of writing this comment I suppose😌. Anyhoo..What I was trying to get at before I digressed with that, at least somewhat, legitimate 😲s.o.p.f.o.m.o🤤 tangent I was gonna say that considering that I was not only alive but also very much (🤔well at least arguably so) semiconscious and/or even possibly semi-aware...of computer(s) and stuff. Well considering all that☝️🙄 written up there about back then. *TLDR* I can confidently say that I’m so much less of an idiot now than I was back then that your story about motherboards with fake sandals on them would just be such an embarrassingly🥹obvious😆…😳..🤔hang on a minute this is even more insane than I initially thought…because what..eh..I mean why would…OKAY, I guess what I’m trying to ask you about is what’s the real world difference between a real and a fake chip sandal on a motherboard? And, I do apologize but this is definitely the very, very last thing! It’s absolutely amazing if you’ve actually stuck with it till now🤯but🙏 Now, to that lastly thing then🧐.. 🤨why would anyone think to not only get the somewhat novel..let’s say, idea to put a chip sandal on motherboards..BUUUT they’d even go above and beyond that..idea..and in what might be the most brilliant stroke of genius in this entire endeavor, if I’m to believe it at all that is, which😑was to use fake ones🤨. Dude..I mean, to be honest it’s not really clear to me why someone would go through all the labor of producing motherboards with chip sandals and to then, allegedly, go ahead use fake ones..? It doesn’t make sense when even putting a real chip sandal already sounds like a huge gamble to me why ruin what minute potential for success they woulda had by sticking to the real deal. Were the 90’s just the hangover decade from the decadent decade of coke that numerically lined🤭(no pun intended) up with that of the 80’s, why yes, yes was. 90’s wacky sure but..hmm fake chip sandal crazy..? I don’t know man 🤷‍♂️

i guess if you are a scammer its a 100% good way to make it pass. nobody would remove the chips or have that knowledge to know its a fake.

I'd consider it worse. If you get a brick at least you immediately know what's up without the blood, sweat and tears of trying to troubleshoot a dud.

@@travisolander4749 these bastards dare to sell on Amazon lol

@@northwestrepair Cant believe it. Never buying anything off Amazon that costs more than $100 ever again. Getting a refund was a journey through management.

@@northwestrepair amazon's a perfect place to scam because they pool skus - your fraudulent 4090 goes into the same bin with the real ones, and when a legit seller sells product the stocker grabs your fake one to send and the legit store gets dinged for the return.

@@northwestrepair Amazon protects scammers as long as they get their cut.

​@@northwestrepair that but also returns. Amazon dont properly check that what people return actually contains what was sent

They are removing the 4090 cores from these boards to use in AI training servers. The populate them onto a Server style PCB.

Why ever they would buy from US? They have factories building nVidia cards in China where they can get easily them and near by countries. The whole US thing is total joke and i am from Europe.

@@XantheFIN They aren’t buying from the US, China is buying completed 4090 Graphics cards and removing the cores and RAM. They are repurposed into AI Server cards and the stripped PCB ends up for sale on the Chinese used market. People in the US and Europe are buying these parts boards to scam people.

Yep they have many pawn countries

​@@XantheFIN All of NVIDIA main chip is manufactured in taiwan.

wait so you are trying to tell me the fried egg i had for breakfast didnt come from a fried chicken? 🤯

I don't always buy 4090s, but when I do...

@@Medio2507 Scotch chickens of course. 🤣

So that isnt where fried eggs come from??

@@johnt.848 Where do the scotch chickens come from then?

The board seems real tho, just the most important parts that are fake 😅

​​@@ToTheGAMES Hence it was high effort just to scam someone

​@@ArtisChronicles It's an leftover board. Companies(likely non-chinese) bought the gpu, take out the ddr6 and the dice for their rigs, and then sell the board for scrap. Chinese guy bought the scrap, bought old gpu dice, transplant it on with fake prints and sell it.

@@anhduc0913 they bought dice ? xD

@@ToTheGAMES I guess labourers in a Chinese sweatshop are cheap...

Yeah, GPU Galaxy made a video about this few years ago.

looks like he did buy a brick from a mortor store :D

*Mordor

well i have been IT for 30 years, and to date buying on ebay from 4900FE to 650ti and server parts, i had little to no problem, either seller does not respond(full refund). at worse ebay comes in and evaluate claim. , and never lost 1$ on ebay to date. saved a lot of $$$ vs brand new, just buy from seller with more then 3 item sold if you buy over 1k USD

AND also , for the love of god if price is too good to be true its NOT! unless its for parts!

​@sy5tem you missed a word in there.

That's actually wild. Man I don't think I'd like working there.

Poor economical situation drives people into committing fraud and crime. Look around. Crime in the US is all time high 😮 While crime is not a big issue in China, poverty is and one way to get out of it and not go to jail is fraud on the US market.

@@northwestrepair After consideration, poverty doesn’t cause people to commit crime. In this case the better way of looking at it is the communist worldview definitely supports crime against any other worldview.

@@northwestrepair The problem with chinese is that if they would sell them products as they really are, all parties would be satisfied. They just prefer to scam..

@@northwestrepair "While crime is not a big issue in China"

when you got no finances to eat, you start doing scams. everyone wants to survive. not defending scams, i hate this . but thats how it is.

Like other commenters have said, this looks like an enterprise level scam. That is to say, who ever is doing this likely already have the equipment and knowledge to pull it off. Maybe a contracted factory that’s assembled real cards currently or in the past. The pricing of 200 is likely intentional too. If they charged 2000 they’d probably catch way more heat from the market and law enforcement. If they charge 200 they make a smaller margin but at least can recuperate some of their costs of business with out catching as much attention.

remember, it had a 4090 core and GDDR6X Vmem chips from new that they removed, so they made more than 200usd

Especially since used 3080 ti goes for about 200$.. almost seams like a click bat… between the time and money to make it appear as a 4090 then only to get less than it cost to make the fake one make no sense.

@@MIkeOlah-mi9tu 3080ti for 200$? Second-hand goes MINIMUM 400$ buddy

@@jadkaranouh404 that just proves my point even more… Why would somebody then spend 400$ plus time and labor to resell it as a 4090.

I'm trying to think of reasons why they even bothered to solder a different core onto the board... maybe to try and fool x-ray inspection of packages? seems a bit excessively paranoid but I can't think of anything else. Would be curious to know where this was purchased from

As an Australian, this isn't a US China conflict.

no, the chips are dead and the VRAM isn't even compatible to begin with.

If its a 3090/ti core, did still function (doubt), and had all memory it actually could with a custom bios flash. 3090/ti and 4090 cores have the same pinouts on either ones PCB afaik.

@@autismo3201 some of them do show an image theres a guy on ebay that bought one and is complaining abut it on ebay community page sadly mean doesnt even turn on just has fans spinning

It's dead

@@northwestrepair is that dead because it has fake chips and was shipped as non functional or dead because one of them failed and nobody noticed before?

@@____________________________.x Dead because it's fake and dead. Fake chips. Dead chips. There's nothing more to add because it's not worth investigating further.

@@Hassan_Omer it wasn't working. Software would not help here.

They Put on 12ics a la 2gb fake each.

Core is dead anyways.

run a benchmark, if it performs like a 4090, it's probably a 4090

Nothing, there's no card, it's completely broken

@@BusAlexey obviously it worked when purchased. im asking what did the system show in graphics

@@yzfr1q2w it didn't work when purchased lol, did you not see how he said that the ram is not even GDDR? It's just a mishmash of things made to fool a buyer. And it's probably not purchased through ebay, but fb marketplace or something, so you couldn't return it.

they leave the plastic on? :-O

Nah, most likely the core already got swapped before the card left China.

@@f0x4nn3 That's what I'm wondering. Steal cores when they're fresh out of factory and before export, solder on fake core to try and fool any exporter/importer who may go to lengths such as x-raying or opening one up to inspect? Really don't know, if you're going to scam an empty PCB is the exact same as this but for some reason they've gone to a lot more effort with this one.

Better, Dont buy 4090 at all

@@JeanPiFresita i got a 7900xtx but still want better should i just wait for the nvidia 5000 series to come out rather than get a 4090?

@@robotmechanicalwhizkid2521 The 4090 has many problems. The problem with the 5000 is that we don't know if it will also have the same problems or if it will have new problems. Hard choise.

Give me ur 7900 xtx, I give you 10 bux. Deal ​@@robotmechanicalwhizkid2521

Thanks!

Asus, however the counterfeiter may not necessarily be the company

@@infni thanks

Confusingly enough there are some genuine 4090s with 3090ti coolers - Asus release OG 4090 TUF cards using 3090ti coolers and MSI doing the same with their Suprim X Classic.

Yeah but how many private end customers get to see more than one contemporary graphics card? Most PC gamers are not hardware enthusiasts, they wouldn't spot the difference because they don't know the difference to begin with. This is detailed knowledge that only enthusiasts have.

Yeah

@@northwestrepair whats the discord? =)))))))

No