heavily disagree with the order of the arms tree. Rend is really good early on. No reason to wait so long. Parry is crazy good, especially if you plan on tanking. Heroic strike should only be used to dump rage when you have too much. This will never be the case in early levels. Rend, Demo, Sunder, Thunderclap. All has more value per rage point. Especially rend. Sweeping strike before Axe spec. 5 points in cruelty does not beat mortal strike at 40. Really cool video though. Straight to the point and always nice to see others take on talents. Keep it up :)
My take on rend is that the bonus damage does so very little that it’s not worth until later. Thunderclap is not a favorite of mine since you can’t thunderclap in defensive stance, so you lose all your rage to swap at an early level. The reduced heroic strike benefits your tanking and leveling due to the large amount of threat compared to rend and demo shout. Thanks for watching!
@@frenziiii it literally does more DMG per rage point than heroic. Especially early on. The scaling actually falls off later on. Also you're not wasting an auto attack to gain rage, like you are on heroic. Thunderclap is a 10 percent damage reduction. With only 2 mobs its more DMG pr rage than heroic. Even with 1 mob its more DMG pr rage, if you count in the rage from the auto attack you miss on heroic. Also sunder does more threat per rage than heroic and contributes to overall more damage, especially in dungeons with other melees
We don't have the stats to really benefit from impale until we hit 60. Two points that I can put into more rage from charge which I usually use at the start of every combat unless i range pull. Deep wounds is great, but will be a liability in HC as it can and will break your fear if things hit the fan and you need to get out. Doubling your chance to parry especially with a 2h is huge as it gives melee haste which increases threat and dps. And as was already stated, rend is by far our greatest damage per rage (if it goes for its duration). We won't stop using and training levels of rend until we get to where we are using mortal strike and whielwind in our thirties. I would definitely respec at 40 to get sweeping strikes instead of keeping 5/5 cruelty. And the 5% damage from 2h wpns is a trap talent in HC especially when imp HS will save your life in HC. Like you said everyone has their own take, but classic and classic HC arms warrior are bits of a different animal. Great content and great channel. Keep it going! :)
Rend is great to take your first 3 points as your damaged abilities is only rend and heroic strike. Plus rend damage is sometimes more then your auto attacks at an early stage
Hello, i'm playing hc as war i and i'm about to get Trash blade at mara, i did tank all the istances till yet as arms 2h perfecly, what spec should i choose now? Fury+arms or Fury prot, or maybe a hybrid fury arms?i'm scared about fury bc i'll lose all the aoe dmg that carried untill now, I dont know what to do, pls help 😢 Ps: i'm always playing with a enh sham if does count something.
If you have a shaman always giving you WF there’s no reason to stop 2H arms tanking. Thrash blade is overrated for tanking because of the attack speed on the weapon, too slow. You’d be better off finding something quick on the AH if you have cash to go with a shield only when it’s absolutely needed.
@@frenziiii ty alot for the quick response, what spec should i choose than? I find also Ms pretty useless and it seems like a waste, also i didn't go for the rend/impaling..etc, should i respec anyways ?
@@01salmaso57 if you’re wanting to start tanking end game dungeons, Fury prot is an option. I would fill your fury tree first. All those wind fury procs will be great with your flurry talent procs and bloodthirst is great damage and threat.
Like to see how other think too even thou I disagree to some.. but thats the beauty of classic.. me personal always go first talent 5/5 Cruelty and then 5/5 Parry, that parry haste when tanking w slow 2h feels so good and when I tank I mostly only do Demo then sunder, tab, sunder in battle stance.. ez for me ❤
Which would be the best build to use for hc as someone who tanks alot at lvl 40. I mainly been arms tanking but I’m starting to notice threat management is a little harder in the higher dungeons
@@Cdanto95 arms tanking gets a little sketchy around Sunken Temple level. Personally if you plan on tanking until 60 now either deep prot or fury prot.
Defense in classic reduces your chance to be critically hit, while also increasing your dodge, block, parry. It’s needed for end game raiding, but dungeons and leveling no. Thanks for watching.
I dont agree with the order you picked talentpoints for furry. You could make a point to be the strongest you can be at lvl 16+ you pick in the arms tree, but the truth is its not relly gonna make a difference if you’r HS costs 2 less rage for a few lvls. With Unbrideld Wrath you almost make up for it and you dont use rend. And you’r only griefing youself not getting Improved BS and enrage. And when you are lvl 40 you more or less need to go full Arms or full fury. bloodthirst is to strong to skip untill lvl almost lvl 60 😊 otherwise good video!!
Unbridled wrath right away with no dual wield? Not sure about that one. Also in the beginning of the video, I suggested that all of these builds assume that you’re tanking at least some dungeons, which I why I suggest tactical mastery for most. Thanks for watching.
@@frenziiii what i ment was unbridled wrath sux but its not worth spending 5 points or more in arms to not have improved BS or enrage. Unless you use 5 points in arms 15-19 and then respecc lvl 20. I allways level as fury and Enrage is better becous when you tank after lvl 20 you dualwield and dont leave defencivstance ☺️ i often get meteorshard from sfk and another dagger and if i can afford it enchant it fireywepon 😝 that Will last you untill you get wirvelwind axe ☺️ and then i go slam specc untill i get better weapons ☺️ i know arms is tecnecly better as sweeping strikes is BIG, but i prefer tanking as fury
