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Literally had the Graham Hancock video right below this one 🤣

But I mean why are people mad at theories? Its not like Hancock has claimed to have evidence. If someone told you they can run 50 miles an hour, that should be all you need to know. Why would you constantly throw out some disses and what not? (Not you but the creator of this video)

The problem with Miano is he always makes it seem like Graham Hancock and UnchartedX are complete idiots when in reality they are following the evidence and arriving at the same exact unanswered questions. Good example is that those 2 believe the great sphinx is older than the timelines proposed by mainstream archeology. Which isnt ridiculous in my opinion, this isnt even their idea. They just arrived at that conclusion or accepted it like others before. Thats why there is the whole water erosion discourse. When it comes to things like atlantis or the great flood etc there are many factors that can point you towards at least aknowledging that we dont know enough to say def. yes/no and we can all bring forth proof or theories in pursuit of answers.

It is the constant anti-intellectual narrative that accompanies Hancockian conjecture that invites critique.

Then how do you explain it being wired for electricity? Hmmm?! /sarcasm

... let's not forget that nowadays we got comfy modern electric light installed. Imagine being in there without that.

Average height went up quite a lot in the last century thanks to better nutrition, most of the inhabitants probably only need to hunch back a bit and some other can stand fully upright in those tunnels.

They were undoubtedly built for SOME purpose, one serious enough to justify a massive amount of work over many generations. Just keeping people focused/dedicated/laboring for such an accomplishment is what is most puzzling. If a date 's could be determined, perhaps in the lower levels it might allow a correlation to climatic, cosmic or sociological events/factors. There are so many of these cities it seems impossible that NOTHING can be found/located to pin it down. Wonder whats at the bottom of the air/water well shafts?

I'm torn by it. On the one hand, yes, stupid. On the other hand the graffiti in Pompei is a window into Roman life. Maybe someday someone will learn something from that graffiti.

@@rcrawford42 Wait. You're referring to modern day graffiti being scribbled on five thousand year old artifacts, as being OK?

Climate extreams, weather events whether storms, hail /tornados, weak magnetic field fluctuations, even impact events. Far enough back you have megalithic creatures, Mammoths as late a 6000 BC or so. Who knows what else. I wondered as much about the dolmens all over europe and even asia.

@@dananorth895 "Megalithic creatures"? Creatures made of giant stones?

I've been to the Lost City of Atlanta. Not really that impressive, to be honest.

The problem with Miano is he always makes it seem like Graham Hancock and UnchartedX are complete idiots when in reality they are following the evidence and arriving at the same exact unanswered questions. Good example is that those 2 believe the great sphinx is older than the timelines proposed by mainstream archeology. Which isnt ridiculous in my opinion, this isnt even their idea. They just arrived at that conclusion or accepted it like others before. Thats why there is the whole water erosion discourse. When it comes to things like atlantis or the great flood etc there are many factors that can point you towards at least aknowledging that we not know enough to say def. yes/no and we can all bring forth proof or theories in pursuit of answers.

​@michaelmurray6577 they are worse than idiots, grifters who know exactly what they are doing. They don't follow the evidence, they choose which evidence they can twist to their narrative and pretend that's all that exists, hancock blatantly disregards, and will never mention, all of the many things that completely destroy his narrative. He won't mention them to you at all, he will however discourage you to the best of his ability from learning those things on your own. I hope you clue in.

@@kevinhank17 While I dont disagree with the things you said, I'd say everyone involved in this field does. Miano goes around egypt and points his finger at pyramids and goes "we know was built by so and so, they even left their signature" disregarding the lacking tools, ships, any hints of construction plans and any mentions or depictions of said process. For all of these people who say "The lack of evidence is not evidence" its strange how they are always so sure about what they know but then only present theories to back it up.

@michaelmurray6577 what should they present to back it up, other than theories based in what little evidence exists? And I challenge you to go visit the hoover damn and find tools, blueprints, descriptions of how it was done, etc, carved into the stone. Guess it's a mystery how that was made and by whom as well? I mean I've been all over my house and I haven't found any tools or blueprints either, so my house was made by ancient, super advanced civilizations I guess? The lack of evidence isn't evidence. Evidence is evidence. Like I can date material in my house and determine around when it was built we can do the same with the pyramids. Have you read up on the dating of the mortar used in the great pyramid? One small bit of evidence amongst many that paint the picture. I don't need a step by step guide and examples of every tool and method used to understand who built my house.

@@michaelmurray6577 No. They really are not. They are either grifters intentionally misleading their audience, including you, to sell books and get rich. Or they have been mislead themselves. With the two mentioned above Its rather clear that uncharteX is just a grifter. Doesnt believe a word he publishes. Just a storytelling channel compiling internet memes. Well, and him having nice holiday trips. Hancock...seems sincere. But is imo too smart to not notice how deeply biased and mislead his arguments can get. They dont analyse data and make conclusions - they cherrypick data and arrange it in a narrative. Thats not how science or logic works. I get the "ancient high culture" stuff is enticing, but most of it really is either outright invented or at best 50 year old retracted bad science ripped out of context and reproduced. Like Hancock did with Gunung Padang - taking one indian geologist as his key withness who claims extreme ancience and subterran chambers. But that dude who got fired from his professorship for fraud. And the article was withdrawn over a decade ago by the journal for bad science. Dozens of other geologists looked at his ground radar data and said "nah, that looks just like volcanic bubbles" - but Hancock decides to cite the dishonored sole voice making the most extreme claim. That smells intentional - especially since he does that kinda stuff really often.

These cities were very large, had air ventilation, water, storage, stables. They also had a great many egress points to the surface...many concealable. There are even long distance tunnels going to other cities. All of which make them rather unique. It would be difficult to wait, waylay, starve, flood, smoke or over run such a structure. Perhaps some intrique or spys/covert force/attackers could gain entrance. But the city had the advantage also of size/numbers, unknown size/layout and could pop up anywhere outside freely without being detected. Even smugling/escaping/sabatoging etc.

Plus, if you watch Lord of the Rings, they use round doors at Bag End.

I know this is a joke but very hard to date the site in fact impossible. That being said we do have a reference for a major climate change this *could be attributed too. Considering the long standing habitation of Anatolia we have lot more questions for this site than answers.

@@floridaman4073 "We who"...and what cited literature can you reference to the observation it is... "very hard to date"...This seems an awful like Graham Hancock's logic and pseudoscience...

The sites are restricked and under control. Your not allowed to explore it all or deeper levels. So who the hell knows what they've found. For the shear size and number of all of these sites all we ever see are pristine/cleaned locations. That is suspicious in itself. Show me the garbage, the day to day pots, tool, detritus etc. WHAT THE HELL WAS LEFT!

I thought it was comets. 😉

@@Deipnosophist_the_Gastronomer atomic comets?

@@comentedonakeyboard 😁

I can see an invader wanting to lay siege to a large and strategically important city, but to waste months starving out villagers? No.

*You wouldn't last long in a place like this. No sun, no water, little food, human waste building up.* But we see very clearly there are major storage facilities for food and water, including a built-in well, and places for human waste to go. *Attackers could just camp outside or show burning logs through holes under doors to smoke people out.* The place is very well ventilated.

@@WorldofAntiquity I also heard that people built underground in that region because its very hot living above. The rock is easy to carve and there's not a lot of other building materials around so digging / making homes from what's already there - ie: relatively soft rock that is plentiful - makes perfect sense.

@@WorldofAntiquity Well, lets assume an army is seen headed for the city, so the residents take their kids and perhaps animals and head down. With all the waste building up, in a hot, humid environment, underground - the stench will become unbearable in a few days. Rodents come. Waste leaks into ground water and pollutes the well. Disease starts. Vitamin D, and C deficiency. Eventually scurvy starts. Old and weak die. Their boddies start rotting in a couple of days. Meanwhile the attacking army burns and loots everything on the surface. Even if the defenders survive, starvation is sure to follow.

@@sashaaa2 If you could point to the actual evidence for your assertions from the site itself, that would be one thing, but you are just imagining what it is like, without ever having been there.

@@WorldofAntiquity That is true, I have not visited this site. But that doesn't make any of these assumptions incorrect. I suspect it wouldn't be very different than a life in a modern bomb shelter or a sewer or a subway tunnel. I also suspect that people in ancient time wouldn't have been much different than the people of today. So modeling their behaivor on a simular situation in today's environment should be valid. I mean, imagine the effort that went into building something like this. Why? Why not simply build tall walls like the residents of ancient Jericho? Why was hiding underground so important that people were willing to put up with all the above mentioned difficulties? What about the lighting. No electricity, so torches or candles would need to be burning all the time. Those requre fuel. Would the fire hazzard in an encolsed space been acceptable to people hidding? If the took animals with them a ton of food would be requred. How would animals react to being kept underground for a prolonged period of time? So many interesting and technical issues when we start thinking of the practical application of the site.

It's not the Jewish year measurement. It's the scholarly year measurement.

There is no CE/BCE in Judaism and it's not even close to being 2024, the current year is 5784 on the Jewish calender, get an education

​​​@@WorldofAntiquityyou should give this guy the pin of shame, it's 5784 on the Jewish calender and there are NO signifiers AT ALL (no CE/BCE) in Judaism, embarrass this naz1 with a pin

There are large air shafts.

@@WorldofAntiquity Well, there you go. Seems simple enough.

The material that was dug out is called "tuffa" or " tuff", it's a volcanic ash that is deposited and is still warm and moist and compacted over a very long time that cements it into a very stable material. Allegedly thay cannot find or tell where it was dumped, and it seems doubtful they flushed it down the wells or towlet. Maybe they just didn't look hard enough? Given the nature/composition of the material and how it came to be deposited, it may be they'd have to search for disturbed soils.....but how long ago? It might be imposible to locate.

Ever seen "The Great Escape"? If it's spread out across the landscape, how would it be detectable today?

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@@henk3202 what ?

there are ventilation wells

@@daeryram without active ventilation (as in fans moving air) I expect it would still be quite smoky, but apparently liveable.

Small oil lamps like the Inuit used in igloos give off only a tiny bit of soot. They had chimneys for fires and ventilation shafts, and even a few water wells, I have read. I'm just dying to go there, and every site in Turkiye!

@@kanfoosj Active ventilation doesn't require fans just vents facing the right way.

A city? What's the approximate capacity of the one you just visited? Looks like a "safe room" to be used against maybe a marauding bands in a time of war, where you expect them to leave once they realize it's not worth waiting or entering. Otherwise it's as easy to not let anyone out as well ..

You mean the video where he mindlessly parroted the popular conspiracy “you will own nothing and be happy” to George soros when it was infact an essay by Ida Auken? This shows Jimmy does nothing but read things and agree with them because 5 seconds using Google would say otherwise.

Me too! ✌ would be great to see Dr's reaction to Jimmy's latest video.

I thought that was Bond villain Klaus that said that?

I pay zero attention to mr. bright because he's been milking the whole atlantis bit for over 2 yrs and still hasn't done any serious reseach other than stting in front of his computer. He pointed out a few structures in the area, like nobody would build a few stone huts in the last several hundred years. He needs ti go there and find thise hot/cold springs or some megalithic structures. Thi argument that the "floods" washed it all away = zero evidence. REALLY?

Are you serious?

oil lamps, most likely - just as they did in normal building or underground mines in the antiquity and middle ages...

@@toncek9981 thanks. Check out Bronze Age caveman Papyrus!, The continuation of a tale of the late Bronze Age collapse from the sea peoples perspective.

Most seed/vegetable oils can be used for lamps, olive in particular was common. Corn oil is poor and not usable but of course they didn't have that, and a few thousand years back it probably didn't even exist in it's present form. But more like the seed corn of any other grain plant.

Or they just wanted someplace to hide from ordinary bandits and conquerors.