Was Halo 5's Multiplayer UNDERRATED?! 

Make a video on playable elites some time bro and why they should return to halo.

Add Chips Dubbo as a playable character

Halo infinite was fine mp. But halo 5? Halo 5 mp is one of the best pvp games ever, unironically. Especially super Fiesta, criminally underrated and overhated

10:54 you got that shirt from IEDM clothing. That's a dope shirt. It has a haunter and cubone on it

Hello

Yeah it blows my mind lol

Bad leadership in a nutshell

​@@juhanpoeka incompetence*

@@YCOSKUN true

And yet still infinite is really fun to play and feels good.

Still waiting for halo infinite to capture the that chaos I loved about 5. Honestly, I gave up on halo multiplayer after 2. I thought 3 and reach were mids. halo 4 was better than reach, but still mids. And halo 5 took a long time, but the last five years were incredible.

I still play husky raid a lot. One of the quintessential halo experiences imo

I'm still playing the shit out of super fiesta party.

War zone was criminally underrated

War zone was the best! So easy to enjoy at all levels

I still play it

warzone was wasted potential

Warzone Firefight Gang

Just like overwatch

You can make halo 6

they dont learn from their mistakes but dont learn from the things they do right either

Halo 5 beta was way better the lightning was godly and they f it up at release

@@Row-and-Pizza-VRso far community forge maps have outperformed most 343 maps, so…

Totally agree.

it's a great multiplayer, some would say (me included) Halo 5 is generally a great game! Just not a good _Halo_ game, y'know?

The only thing that would have made it better was removing Spartan Charge unless it was a social mode

@@hachelyd_i3232 Remove all the enhanced mobility crap = real Halo game.

​@@AFunkyFella exactly. People calling 343 the worst developer for Halo 5 is unfair because it is a very well thought out and ambitious game. It's just again, like you said, not the right direction for Halo.

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@@briankeys5941 are you… ok

We'll wake him, when we need him.

@@briankeys5941 I want what you’re havin 👵🏼

I haven't played any halo since 4 came out so I do know about the mp maps but on the og Xbox and halo 2 you could do the special things like crouch on a rail and shot in a corner or stuff like that and it would launch you to the top of the map. I used to do it on lockout playing swat(headshots) I'd decimate the other tesm.

There also only about 7 guns in infinite

@@Armageddon613 4 of which are trash, one is an explosive, one is a pistol and the other is an assault rifle. I'll stick to literally any Halo game that isn't Infinite.

@@megaman37456 exactly that’s what I’m saying. No weapon variety at all

@@Armageddon613 that's legit my main problem with infinite, like I can ignore pretty much all the other issues it has because playing the game is still kinda fun, but there is quite literally 4 useful (non power) weapons, maybe 5 if you get good at using the commando

God I love halo 5 multiplayer and I wish I could still finds games today :(

Still play it to this day. It's still fun

Husky Raid is the reason I became Competitive when it comes to CTF

I agree

​@@ZealotKnight same

It got even more chaotic when you played it in super fiesta

The multiplayer was definitely my favorite once it was content complete and combined with the forge and customs it really was something.

It’s a good game. It’s just an awful Halo game. If it launched as it’s own title it would have done fine. But it called itself halo while doing as much as it could to separate itself from Halo as possible (changed the art style, the music, the gameplay, the physics, and downgraded tons of basic features). It’s like going into Pizza Hut and the staff telling you they only serve Burgers.

@@lilbubz2803 very well said.

Can't argue with this. This is what online gaming is all about. I will say though, it used to be a lot better before every game turned to the onlyfans model. I think we can get back there one day.

Same, played on xbox constantly lol, played prison, death runs etc

Halo 5 got bro laid

I remember playing elimination with my cousin and getting our ass whooped every round

i am george washington

​@@cophater298no your not. He ded

@@Ghostman223 well our Washington is still alive. RvB s19 baby

Why is it so hard to to get into lobbies nowadays tho?

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​@@DevilSlayer502 game is dogshit thats y

​@@R0gueIsHere Basically MCC exists if you want the actual Halo games and it's fixed enough to be playable now. Infinite also exists if you want a newer Halo (although tbh I'm not sure it's much better than 5 considering how dry it is...) What hurts even more for 5 is that it's not on PC, so however few of us PC Halo fans there are, we won't be there to drive up numbers.

@@R0gueIsHere that’s not why and you know it. 5 has one of the best multiplayers. Second off certain lobbies are empty and some like infection is full which also refutes that claim. Put your bias hate to 5 aside and if you have an actual answer THEN reply to me

I dont know how else they would've balanced it, because if it were based on the most damage dealt by team, people wouldnt bother going after the bosses.

@@danjjjatest I've never felt like it was a damage thing. I've have plenty of bosses snipe stolen from me across the map from me. Adding a King of the Hill objective after boss defeat would make it more about map control. It can be a quick capture like 5 seconds. Heroes of the Storm has the same boss concept. I don't see how adding a second objective to claim the boss kill would of made people not go for bosses anymore. Hell I practically ignored bosses in warzone except for trying to get the last hit.

Just looked up 'Warzone boss' and cant find a single citation on it. there isn't any fuckin warzone boss lol.

​@@ThaRawLeasM there were heapx of bosses in warzone? like the giant grunt mech

@@40kfanatics ive only played wzm, so i youtubed warzone bosses.. nothing came up

That was fun actually.

I must have been playing a different game but I only remember the magnum being used 90% of the time.

Alright hold up you know how much armors and amor duplicates there were that almost looked the same? But rarely got it because it was in a randomize lootbox that rarely gave you armor but alot of random warzone weapons especially mongoose and carbines? I like H5 mp too but at that point I'd rather spend 20$ then grind for a hour just to get a wasp. Imma keep it 100 and admit I just decided to pay for the reach helmet bundle lol

@@daBears06 lol i got the reach helmet bundle for free when infinite got announced

True but for weapons it just wasn't maintainable. I remember saving them up for a year, and I blew past them in a few months by playing warzone exclusively. You basically use up more gold packs than you gain them.

Hahaha nice! Yeah I must've had the footage for over 6 years

Yep. Husky Raid singlehandedly kept me coming back to Halo. Along with the Infection maps the community made.

Regicide technically did but it was for a limited time

warzone was the greatest thing 343 did honestly

Warzone sucked.

@@Johnspartan296 Mad cuz bad

I'd say warzone replaced dominion, but it would've been nice to have more of the dominion elements in warzone. The fortification of bases and turrets and stuff.

What did you think of the other Halos since you started with 5?

That they were great games personally I like halo 2 and reach multiplayer loved odst campaign and firefight

Same here, I'd played the other halos once or twice but after Halo 5 I've been fully in the franchise, honestly really miss h5s mp

Yeah but when you had RU-vid channels shitting on it constantly “wHy iS theRe sPrinT!!!??&&” it’ll eventually sour. Didn’t help with the false marketing either and bland launch.

Its halo infinite so probably not

Still waiting

I've played Halo since the first released, and 5 is my favorite. The community just hated anything that wasn't exactly what they wanted, and now we have Infinite thanks to them.

@@Menorahdude Infinite's still better. Only issues it has are bad bugs and lack of optimization, and the gameplay could be less Halo 5-ish. 5 still had tons of bugs though, probably more than Infinite. Must suck to not like the better version of the same game, lmao.

@@drmigly5 mp is way more fun than Infinite. Campaign is better too, though that isn't saying much. Infinite is mid through and through.

@@Menorahdude Said no one ever

I guess I'm a gen Z at heart

Black Halo what’s that, Keith David as Master Chief?

While I know it's not the same & I would want H5 breakout back, Attrition is what became of it in infinite. Those elimination/breakout ranked matches were some of the sweeties 😅. Until 343 ruined it with Breakout 2.0 🫤

Destiny did it better

​@@EvilPhoenix007 destiny did yo mama better

Lol, you wanted a bot and look who replied! 😂

Time really is a flat circle

I hated how the first halo game I played was halo 4

Been here since 15k brotha i feel you

H5 was such a solid gameplay experience, we hit Onyx with a friend during the pandemic

It makes me disappointed that infinite hasn’t gotten the really good features. Especially the crazy weapon variants that 5 had

After playing Infinite I’m glad to know I never waisted my time or money on Guardians, even when toned down the mechanics still screw with map control and the sandbox’s balance.

And now we're gonna focus on other games now that I've cleaned my hands of this hahaha

@@TheActMan Ahh the payoff shall be immense!

Yes thank you finally someone said it. I always said Halo 5 was a test ground for new Halo games. You would have thought that, based on Halo 5's mechanics, that Infinite would have given us ADS for all guns. But noooo. 343 is so scared to adapt to the 2020s.

@@noobbotgaming2173 Then it’s not halo then. It’s a sci-fi call of duty game or other fps titles.

I always thought it was a super satisfying fun game but the monetization was retarded

​@@noobbotgaming2173 no the issue was the game just looked like halo trying to be cod since cod advance warfare and their future games was all going towards the future style movement. Than halo 5 decided let's try to do the same

@@d30n6 This mentality is why Halo is dead. A friend told me the other day people our age don't play Halo anymore. We played it back in the day and now most people in their mid 20s-early 30s have a kid. And when they play a game they want to make the most of an hour or two a day. You need to bring new players in the game. Fresh blood. Halo's been stagnant since Reach. The root of why Infinite failed is the core gameplay isn't relevant anymore. No one plays arena shooters anymore. Even CoD took a page from Battlefield with its rebooted Ground War mode. Halo's new identity should either be 6v6 or 10v10 TDM or Domination with different shooting and movement mechanics. Or it should focus on big 32v32 maps with Halo vehicles and Conquest modes. Halo has the assets. But the people in charge are too lazy and complacent to bring Halo into the 2020s.

Infinites multiplayer is perfect now. What it needs is a reason to continue to play it

​@@bro3217 The reason to continue playing should be enjoying the game. Progression & cosmetics as a reason to keep playing is insane

At least infinite actually feel like halo though

@@GallowayJesseYes, and progression and cosmetics are big parts of why people enjoy games lol. Everyone enjoys the gameplay, but you need more than that to keep players playing.

​@@bro3217 huh?? What about it is 'perfect'? Desync alone makes most matches unsavory.

SAME! H2, reach, and h5 were my favorites. H3 missed the mark on MP for me, but h5 was fun af.

@@cobaltduu2 same!! I never liked the projectile br tbh, I have a very unpopular h3 opinion lol

@@andrewscocozza4340 Exactly. The Halo 3 BR is terrible. I can never understand how anyone defends that awful BR. I've been playing since 2001 so it's not the opinion of someone new just trying it out.

Good let's hope it stays like that.

​@@zachtaylor5312Lead your shots noob.

They launched a game with half the content of reach and somehow still struggled to get the rest of it out over the next year. Incompetence at its finest

Then hire more employees? Releasing content is literally their fucking jobs.

@@JJAB91 I'm not excusing it, I'm just simply pointing out the difference and what they stated.

​@@JJAB91 Easier said then done

They’ve already outsourced a lot of labor for infinite, so lack of man hours is pointedly NEVER the problem. What really held them back was lack of direction, shitty management, and poor organization and communication over the course of the development process. The only difference is they used hefty amounts of crunch to cover their ass post-launch in 5, and now that they’ve sworn off of crunch, they somehow thought it was a good idea to NOT clean up their pre-launch development process to compensate. In other words, it all comes down to incompetence from the higher ups who continue to roll their shit downhill. The lesson here isn’t that crutch is the only way to provide decent live service support, it’s that they have no choice BUT to rely on crutches such as crunch when they refuse to address *chronic management incompetence* that has fucked over every one of their game launches after Halo 4. Parroting 343’s marketing team’s attempts to obfuscate this fact by channeling sympathy for the devs(who wouldn’t be in that crunch-or-flop situation if they had competent oversight) does not solve the problem.

my favorite part in mass effect 2 is where 300k batarians get vaporized in a supernova

That’s a cool story! Weird to think how much time has passed since those videos! Still the same old Act Man though!

That’s because Xbox gutted social features across the board to protect you from no-no bad peepee words

Yes and no. That only counts once the stuff that *should* have been there at launch (such as forge), was already out.

Can't be underrated if the majority of updates were adding content that should have been there at launch.

@@justiceforjoggers2897 its funny because Infinite is doing the same shit just at a much slower pace. Like did you two not think i didn’t know that before making the comment? It doesn’t change the fact that they were on it a lot quicker with Halo 5 then they are with Halo Infinite. That was the main point of my original comment.

@@germguy6884 Ya see, it's because not everyone thinks basic bitch updates adding simple features from almost every game before it in what would otherwise have been content complete, is anything remotely praiseworthy.

Compared to infinite especially. Idk why infinite ditched everything halo 5 did. All the vehicles, enemies, guns. They completely scrappes it.

It's dog water

@@MaxiemumKarnage it’s not that bad it’s actually fun

@@MaxiemumKarnage you’re just trash at it, be honest

@@MaxiemumKarnage thank you for your incredibly insightful reply to my comment.

@@ThePickleMenace420 So is breaking rocks with hammers, but there's better ways to respect one's time

You mean there was new mechanics...I didn't notice!

No, people hated it because it played nothing like halo, because jumped on the advanced movement bandwagon the year after Advanced Warfare came out, because map control and vehicles were heavily deemphasized as a result of the advanced movement, and because universal ADS and bonus headshot damage turned basically every gun into a precision weapon and ruined the sandbox.

IMO may be more to well. I Love reach but many did not, saw it as a downgrade Then you have halo 4, which People liked even Less then Reach. That's already 2 games people didn't like in a row. Then you had MCC which was a colossal fuck up. It promised people the ability to play their old favorites but it was busted. Then You have all those years of peoples hopes being crushed, then you end up with 5. With so long a time of people being angry then you introduce another sequal thats even Less like the older titles. It reached a breaking point. People were already sour'd then they just, gave up. Halo 5 may have been good but it had too much negative rep built up over the years. So any good it may have had was buried.

@@Slender_Man_186 Saying H5 playing nothing like Halo is asinine at best. The "Advanced movement" Was just a short range dodge button and something that held you in place while aiming. Vehicles and power weapons were even more oppressive in H5 than they were in previous Halo games, making map control infinitely more important, almost to a detrimental degree to be honest, and ADS barely increased the functionality of non precision weapons. Maybe a slight increase to their range but they were still easily outclassed by any precision weapon hip fire. If you couldn't beat an AR from range with a magnum, you just weren't good at the game tbh.

@@Gorrfinger “ADS barely increased functionality” are you high? Even in Infinite this is still the problem, the AR has no right being a valid option at mid range, it’s supposed to be a close range spray and pray used to secure melee kills. In 5 the AR, BR, DMR, SMG, SAW, Magnum, Carbine, Storm Rifle, and Light Rifle are all hitscan, all do bonus headshot damage, and all have a scope that makes them effective out to mid, why? Infinite has the same issue with the AR, BR, Commando, Sidekick, and soon the Bandit Rifle too when that gets added. It’s not about performance, it’s about weapon roles.

They need to start by stop skipping time and master chief has amnesia

If I recall, the public sentiment to Halo 4's menu theme was sort of negative. I remember I didn't care much for it, but I didn't hate it.

I didn’t hate it, but who tf ever is gonna hum the halo 4 theme song.

I'll put it this way, ii forgot Halo 4s title theme was even different from the other ones It definitely isn't bad sounding though, but it isnt super memorable IMO

@@deflategate1297 It is hillarious that this is literally at center of the plot in the whole 343i trillogy

Honestly the extreme over-mobility that allowed you to shut your brain off and play with zero strategy was what hurt this game the most. We want halo, not Call of Duty. And this game really, really wanted to be Call of Duty.

Why can't they do more armor like that? Not necessarily the design but just the simple principle of being rewarded for grinding the game

​@@ashtoncrosby3517 nah that's stupid just give them your life insurance and they'll give you all the armor you could want.

Holup how??

@@michalis75 I'm not a forger so I don't know exactly how, but in custom games I've played games with weird ass mixes of different weapons.