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Was Ichigo UNDERUSED in The Thousand-Year Blood War Arc? | Bleach DISCUSSION 

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As the main character of Bleach, it's natural to expect Ichigo to be the focus of the story at all times. But in my opinion, some of Bleach's strongest moments are when Ichigo isn't in the spotlight. Many people have criticised that Ichigo was sidelined in the final arc - in this video, we'll take a look at how true that is, and if it is, how much it really matters.
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@MrTommo2304
@MrTommo2304 3 года назад
What did you think of Ichigo in the final arc? Do you mind spending a lot of time with the supporting cast and not with him? Let me know and don't forget to subscribe!
@shikiuchiha6388
@shikiuchiha6388 3 года назад
At some points I literally forgot he was the main character
@kon9550
@kon9550 3 года назад
I think it was fine I didn't care that he doesn't do much more than what he did but a war dosent revolve around one person it's every one's war
@kakashihatake6052
@kakashihatake6052 3 года назад
@@kon9550 legends say ichigo true bankai shihakusho is drip jacket and that is reaso n why yhwach was so afraid of him
@kakashihatake6052
@kakashihatake6052 3 года назад
@@shikiuchiha6388 legends say ichigo true bankai shihaksho is drip jacket
@kakashihatake6052
@kakashihatake6052 3 года назад
@Joshington Groban the 3rd. facts even yhwach was afraid and people say naruto is stronger than ichigo how dare they, someone so driples like naruto couldnt even look at ichigo
@Dissonant-Clash
@Dissonant-Clash 3 года назад
I feel like Ichigo wasn't really missing in the story, but he could have had better, more defining moments.
@TheDanTheDan15
@TheDanTheDan15 3 года назад
ICHIGO KUROSAKI DESERVES BETTER!!!😔😔
@toolazyforaname
@toolazyforaname 3 года назад
Facts
@joshuabarnard5702
@joshuabarnard5702 3 года назад
I think he had a lot of defining moments: "Protect the Soul Society", learning the truth about Masaki, learning the truth about Zangetsu and reforging his Zanpakuto, finally mastering his inner Hollow with the Horn of Salvation, having his Bankai broken, and cutting down the man who killed his mother.
@DriedPlank
@DriedPlank 3 года назад
@@joshuabarnard5702 To be honest, he's already done things similar but more impactful to those in previous arcs on top of doing more in general. Rescue Rukia arc: Saved Rukia going against a whole army, Mastered his Shikai, it also broke and learned about those inside him, fought and defeated Ikkaku, Renji, Kenpachi and Byakuya, learned the legendary status of bankai, stopped the firebird thing with the supposed strength of a million zanpakutos, actually put three lieutenants out of commission at the same time. Aizen war arc: Fought multiple times and defeated Ullquiorra and Grimmjow, fought Yammy multiple times, Learned hollowfication, fought amd defeated the wind arrancar dude, this arc Ichigo actually died, went through an internal struggle of what he should do, fought Gin who was testing him, rescued Orihime, got the resolve he needed from the Zangetsus, learned about and achieved final getsuga, defeated Aizen, lost his soul reaper powers. Fullbring: Went through multiple trials to get his shinigami powers back, unlocked his fullbring, everyone he cared about had their memories played with, he actually cried, his bankai leveled up, Learned the truth about substitute soul reapers, defeated Ginjo, became a soul reaper again. Quincy arc: Fought Kirgei, fought Bach three times, fought female sterns, did some training to unlock his true shikai, used a quincy ability (did he ever use it again?), defeated bach (with the help of Aizen and an ass pull arrow), learned about his mom and dad, his sword broke again. In the Quincy War arc, Ichigo never accomplished anything meaningful and the things he learned were never displayed fully. He held no grudge against Bach for learning the truth, didn't use his new bankai, the only person he really defeated was Bach with the help of others, he was put down for a while by Askin as well, beat up by Bach, never really showcased anymore Quincy powers, didn't have any meaningful fights. All together, Ichigo's performance was horrendous throughout the Quincy War arc. Let's hope most of it gets rewritten for the anime. Honestly I think Kubo should remake the arcs for the anime but leave the core aspects.
@muchoyurdem5260
@muchoyurdem5260 3 года назад
Right he wasnt missing. What was is, his purpose, his abillitys, his evolution. He was just a pro footballer sitting on the bench and getting in the field at 85 min only left playing for 5 min😂
@thewarrior8497
@thewarrior8497 3 года назад
Ah yes. This video was a part of my plan,.
@izayathetroll4322
@izayathetroll4322 3 года назад
Everything is part of you're plan lord Aizen.
@kakashihatake6052
@kakashihatake6052 3 года назад
@Joshington Groban the 3rd. legends say ichigo true bankai shihaksho was drip jacket supreme
@hacraft9313
@hacraft9313 3 года назад
So ichigo smashing orihime was a part of your plan? lol
@aizen7105
@aizen7105 3 года назад
Lmao. Lord aizennn😖😖😖😖😖😖
@ludasrayjin1158
@ludasrayjin1158 3 года назад
69 likes.... I see
@Meeseeek
@Meeseeek 3 года назад
he did kinda spend 20 chapters flying through the sky as his friends got clapped
@rupertgordonii6623
@rupertgordonii6623 3 года назад
Lol
@BurntFossil
@BurntFossil 3 года назад
How it felt like to me: Ichigo starts off well, but then goes missing THE ENTIRE TIME until the very last moments, and when he does show up with awesome improved power he gets absolutely destroyed. End of. Wow, so amazing.
@bqw2094
@bqw2094 3 года назад
Tommo , you really need to talk about how poorly the ishida family was handled in the final arc . Uryu , ryuken and souken all were done really bad by kubo .
@ryanr4242
@ryanr4242 3 года назад
Ya Uryu needed so much more time to fully flesh out and develop his character.
@TheVegeta67
@TheVegeta67 3 года назад
Ryuken literally appears and does nothing on-screen. Despite us having a flashback showing why he would go against the quincies.
@pastel_magi
@pastel_magi 3 года назад
@@TheVegeta67 Man I was really hoping for more & than just realizing "Ah... that's it... okay...."
@TheVegeta67
@TheVegeta67 3 года назад
@@pastel_magi That flashback with Misaki is so good that it caused Isshin and Ryuken doing nothing in the end to hurt even more.
@LightOwl-o8o
@LightOwl-o8o 3 года назад
I hate how Uryu can just have a somewhat friendly interaction with Mayuri. I wanted Uryu vs Mayuri round 2 in the final arc where Uryu actually kills him and some of the other vizards to show case just how OP his schrift is.
@bennefib
@bennefib 3 года назад
i dont think so, ichigo has spent the entitire series being manipulated to fight in some way or shape or form, so its nice to see the soul society have battles against the quinces more since they re respective domains hate each other, ichigo's man focus should be killing the guy that killed his mother rather then fight a bunch of quinces that would probbaly be filler battles since ichigo could of killed all of them quite easily
@TheDanTheDan15
@TheDanTheDan15 3 года назад
I HATE AIZEN FOR MANIPULATING ICHIGO!!!
@andrewrenshaw2741
@andrewrenshaw2741 3 года назад
@@TheDanTheDan15 you wouldnt have a manga without it mate.
@danwarner7816
@danwarner7816 3 года назад
Agreed I also like that he had time demonstrate gotei 13 bankai forms as well. Since quincy are indeed prime antagonists of final arc. Whereas, ichigo involvement is handled neatly through his mother
@M3g4UBERn00b
@M3g4UBERn00b 3 года назад
One of my favourite things about Bleach is the heavier focus on characters who aren't the MC. It doesn't happen to this degree very often in manga.
@out_of_orbit1968
@out_of_orbit1968 2 года назад
Yeah the only reason I like bleach is becuz like it doesn't force the MC in every plot line, like by the end of uzumaki i was tired of listening to naruto's voice.
@AJ__525
@AJ__525 Год назад
@@out_of_orbit1968”by the end of uzumaki” wtf?
@joshuabarnard5702
@joshuabarnard5702 3 года назад
Ichigo probably got more character development in the TYBW than any other arc in the series, overcoming the guilt of his mother's death. So in that way he had a lot to do. I don't think he needed a rival because Yhwach was his rival in a sense. The antagonist who Ichigo has personal enmity with. The battle with Yhwach just needed to be much longer. Which I'm sure was Kubo's original intention, as he spent the longest break of the series (5 weeks) planning Ichigo vs Yhwach. And I don't think Ichigo should've had an actual fight with Uryu. Uryu being set up as a rival was a fake out to reaffirm Ichigo and Uryu's friendship and show Uryu's development, and to contrast with Jugram and Bazz-B.
@jixreaper6411
@jixreaper6411 3 года назад
Of course it has been underused! -The fight against Oppie begins but he withdraws and is imprisoned -The fight with ywach begins but the latter retires and ichigo remains with the broken sword .. -The training with ichibei is not seen -The 1 vs 4 battle is interrupted by another 4 quincys -the hypothetical battle 1 vs 8 does not take place because ichigo withdraws from ywach -the battle against Askin is not seen and in any case ichigo is instantly defeated. -the final battle against Ywach ichigo loses - The "true bankai" is seen only for a moment and then it is broken and some of his powers are taken away. In this saga ichigo does not win any 1 vs 1 battles
@kakashihatake6052
@kakashihatake6052 3 года назад
i want to see ichigo and zero squad destroy some sternritters instead of them dying to aushwalen, ichibe was perfect to defeat gerard he could have negated his immortality
@jixreaper6411
@jixreaper6411 3 года назад
@@kakashihatake6052 I would like to say what I hope they improve in the anime 1) Better characterization for Quincy 2) A less hasty ending for the manga 3) The longest battle between Ywach and Aizen 4) Ichigo regaining all powers before Ywach's death and using them. 5) An improved storyline for Ishida, which better show his abilities and explain why he is so special. 6) Division 0 best characterized and depth with their integral battles. 7) Flashback of the first Quincy invasion 8) Flashback first encounter between Urhara and yoruichi 9) Better use of Ishin and Ryuken characters 10) The last 3 fights of the manga longer and with a better conclusion. 11) I would like to see animated the novel sequle "Cant fear your own world" 12) Ywach using Yamamoto's Bankai 13) Finally most important of all, I want the full fight of Chad and Ganju against the statues ahahahha
@kakashihatake6052
@kakashihatake6052 3 года назад
@@jixreaper6411 listen some of the thing you mentioned is not muc important for plot, A better flashback will be soul king and nobles, we see how nobles sealed soul king and what type of person he was, I am not interested in urahara and yoruichi story, we need full zero sqyad fights, aizen vs yhwach long fight, ichigo, aizen, uryu and some captains assisting vs yhwach, Some vizards fights instead of too many byakuya fights, I want cfyow lore to included but not the events seriously hikone and tokinada were weak i would prefer tokinada assisting shinigami then betraying them then yhwach kills him shoing ichigo how nobles are not exactly good, The flashback to first war is not necessary, more yhwach backstory and him presenting his perspective, Other quincies geting characterization, ryuken, ishin getting moment is too much to ask, Also yhwach is way way stronger than yamamoto so this is just pure fanservice, true shikai ichigo is already stronger than yamamoto
@lapollaconcebolla8076
@lapollaconcebolla8076 3 года назад
Maybe therr was a bigger plan but honestly the last year of the manga it felt rushed not to mention the final 5 chapters it was like oh shit lets finish it. I hope that for the anime everything gets filled and doesnt follow the manga 100% but also add to it add whats being told in the novels
@Ray03595
@Ray03595 3 года назад
Yeah, Ichigo is quite simply a fun main character to watch fight. Him being sidelined was a pain because when this arc was being released every week I was just wondering when Ichigo would be relevant to the story again. Hard to really say I was satisfied with his role in the end too considering the rushed finish. Bleach had always done a good job balancing Ichigo's involvement with the rest of the cast, but this time they made Ichigo a complete side story until the finale. I think Ichigo having another rival quincy like he has a rival espada/fullbringer/shinigami in his other arcs would've made a huge difference.
@dicl2414
@dicl2414 3 года назад
I think the narrative problem with Ichigo is that once he gets his true shikai he was too strong for any of the Quincey to put up a fight against him, the only exception is the final 4 Quincy but they had to go to the captains to explain why they didn't go help against ywach. I mean he did face off against 8 sterritter without any problem, he took no damage from their attacks and one swing nearly killed candice, can you imagine the kind of slaughter it would be if he actually fought them?
@Lawxless
@Lawxless 3 года назад
I wouldn't mind seeing ichigo slaughter them
@dencheq
@dencheq 3 года назад
Yeah it's like fighting espada in dangai form.
@giovonemendoza6531
@giovonemendoza6531 3 года назад
The vizards were supposed to be the saviors of this arc...but kubo really messed it up
@SouthSideOdaiba
@SouthSideOdaiba 3 года назад
The Vizards should have put in work. Considering that hollow powers are like poison to Quincy.
@giovonemendoza6531
@giovonemendoza6531 3 года назад
@@SouthSideOdaiba exactly. Kubo made them fodder (which should NOT happen at all)
@AJ-kt5zo
@AJ-kt5zo 3 года назад
@@SouthSideOdaiba 💙
@AJ-kt5zo
@AJ-kt5zo 3 года назад
@@giovonemendoza6531 💙
@donbilligatti3004
@donbilligatti3004 3 года назад
It's weird, when you read TYBW it's all cool and shit and then suddenly it's over and you're like what the fuck and then realize oh shit this wasn't as good as I thought it was
@hatefulgaming1800
@hatefulgaming1800 3 года назад
fr Chad and Inoue did jack the entire arc
@ludasrayjin1158
@ludasrayjin1158 3 года назад
@@hatefulgaming1800 I mean orihime at least blocked yhwach attacks a couple of times protecting ichigo and fixing tensa zangetsu after tsukishima appearance
@Ray03595
@Ray03595 3 года назад
@@hatefulgaming1800 Chad had been irrelevant since Hueco Mundo Arc. Sad how much Kubo ended up underutilizing him when he has a very cool fullbring and a great backstory.
@donbilligatti3004
@donbilligatti3004 3 года назад
Honestly We could Talk whole Day of things We wanted to see more in Bleach. As for the final Arc I think for me not seeing enough of Ishida family is major cap
@kakashihatake6052
@kakashihatake6052 3 года назад
@@donbilligatti3004 yeah same with naruto, i wish both could get remastered
@Elsa_Jay
@Elsa_Jay 3 года назад
I love the fact Naruto and Bleach had like the opposite problem for their main character getting screen time. Naruto probably had too much and made people sad that the side characters get forgotten. Ichigo however gets less while the side characters get more. That's why Naruto is called "Naruto" and Bleach is called Bleach. If your complaint is the main character not getting enough focus instead of too much, that's a good problem to have.
@scottgrasser9737
@scottgrasser9737 3 года назад
yea sadly the story still needed to force ichigo to have the final win against both aizen and ywatch he gets used very little yet the story still treats him as the only one who can win
@kakashihatake6052
@kakashihatake6052 3 года назад
@Roman Francis bruh, ichigo was still important even more than urhara Aizen only losy because he wanted to, and he only wante d to loose against ichigo so point proven ichigo was more important, The kido would not have worked if aizen did not wanted to and ichigo did not use mugetsu
@rayzer9344
@rayzer9344 3 года назад
@@kakashihatake6052 if kisuke didnt create that kido he put on aizen then aizen would have just regenerated. Kisuke was more important than ichigo
@unblockedtexts6540
@unblockedtexts6540 3 года назад
@@rayzer9344 if ichigo didn't use mugetsu Urahara wouldn't even have a chance to use that kido, ichigo was more important
@KennyMatthewsMonster
@KennyMatthewsMonster 3 года назад
@@unblockedtexts6540 they were equally important then right?
@TheDonovanMcCormick
@TheDonovanMcCormick 3 года назад
Ichigo is the MC but it really is an ensemble cast in Bleach, one of the things I’ve always loved about it. I think Ichigo’s involvement in the second battle suffered mostly from them rushing Kubo because he doesn’t have a fight in the last half of the arc and there really is no climax. Really interested to see what they do with the end in the anime. The Bambis played the role of the Lt’s on top of sokyoku hill, people for Ichigo to one shot to show his power up lol. And thanks for the panel of Shinji holding Hiyori’s torso, good times.
@TheDonovanMcCormick
@TheDonovanMcCormick 3 года назад
@@hahmann I wish they’d had more development too. Orihime ended up with pretty ridiculous powers but Chad can’t really even help after the arrancar arc and Uryu didn’t seem any stronger either, even though he’s barely around in a Quincy arc.
@TheDonovanMcCormick
@TheDonovanMcCormick 3 года назад
@@hahmann yea, and with his Schrift he should be leveled up but Haschwalth just destroys him. Seems like the antithesis power would have multiple uses but we only ever see the one.
@pablozky21
@pablozky21 3 года назад
I feel Ichigo had his moment on the sun up until he gets his new Zangetsu, until then I would say he gets some of his best moments, but the second half of the arc made it feel like he was just there to win the final fight and nothing else. And that was disappointing, considering how much growth you feel around his character at this point you feel there is a lot of potential to showcase his growth, but we only see some bits here and there. I think a fight with Uryuu would definitely have helped, especially since later it is revealed (unsurprisingly) that he never turned against his friends, which would have fueled that fight on its emotional beats. But it didn't happen. Ichigo isn't everything about Bleach, for sure, but I feel he deserved more. And not only him, his friends too, Uryuu was criminally underused in an arc about his race, Orihime got something but not much and let's not even talk about Chad. It's kind of sad that all 4 got pretty much sidelined on an arc that could have exploited their growth and have been super emotional as these are the characters we have from the beginning. Instead, it feels Kubo really only cares about the shinigami, even more so the captains.
@aeronight5871
@aeronight5871 3 года назад
Yes he was. Vizards were overused tho. Overused as punching bags by kubo. Still dont know why he hates the vizards
@dencheq
@dencheq 3 года назад
I guess they weren't popularby readers.
@gig7932
@gig7932 2 года назад
You had me in the first half ngl.
@PeachDragon_
@PeachDragon_ 3 года назад
"We just have to hold out until kurosaki ichigo arrives" "I know i'm asking a lot, but please, kurosaki ichigo, protect soul society, it doesn't matter if you answer, i already know what you'll do" When ichigo was actually being treated like a captain is when you can truly understand why he's fighting for the shinigami, soul society is his family in a way
@dencheq
@dencheq 3 года назад
Ichigo is more like messiah at this point.
@bigbangrafa8435
@bigbangrafa8435 3 года назад
My only problem was his match against the King himself. That's the only moment in which Ichigo alone should have had a bigger role, since I expected something more similar to Naruto vs Sasuke final battle. But overall, I see this as a positive. The vast majority of animes/manga do have multiple and interesting characters that basically do nothing because the main character has to save the day, with Dragon Ball and Naruto being great examples of that. It's nice to see that in in Bleach the world doesn't orbits a messiah style character that has to solve everything all by himself.
@scottgrasser9737
@scottgrasser9737 3 года назад
i hated how ichigo just had to get the final blow ishida is right there and could shoot a arrow...but no has to be ichigo
@kakashihatake6052
@kakashihatake6052 3 года назад
@@scottgrasser9737 ishida was most important in defeating yhwach so i dint know what you are talking
@scottgrasser9737
@scottgrasser9737 3 года назад
@@kakashihatake6052 im saying ishida shooting ywatch then screaming for ichigo to deal the final blow was stupid ichigo was not needed to do the final blow and ichigo just watching as ichigo almost fails was real lame
@mrsticky005
@mrsticky005 3 года назад
@@scottgrasser9737 I disagree. I thought it was epic as hell. Ichigo ABSOLUTELY needed to do the final blow against Yhwach because Yhwach pretty much killed Ichigo's mom.
@kakashihatake6052
@kakashihatake6052 3 года назад
@@scottgrasser9737 bruh ishida cant scrath base yhwach, The arrow only turned of. His almighty, Yhwach was still as durable as before, only ichigo could have hurt him not even aizen could have
@number3665
@number3665 3 года назад
Ichigo was never missing to me because he isn't GOD. He can't be the person to do EVERYTHING in the story. The Captains and the Seireitei existed before him and they'll exist after him. Yes he is the main character but there are multiple other characters that are just as important and capable of handling danger. To just have one person do everything would not only diminish the roles of all other characters it diminishes the story. We are all the main characters in our own lives but think about how many things happen in our lives that directly influence us or are directly connected to us but we are indirectly involved in. Lots of important things happen in our own lives that we are not present for. That doesn't mean they are any less important because we aren't there.
@alejandromena9647
@alejandromena9647 3 года назад
Like COVID
@AmvRandom
@AmvRandom 3 года назад
Yeah, if Ichigo were to do everything, then it would be the same as the 4th great ninja war.
@Lawxless
@Lawxless 3 года назад
I just wish he had another 1v1 fight
@dec2567
@dec2567 3 года назад
I agree
@dagdamor1
@dagdamor1 3 года назад
His “screen time” could have probably been sufficient, but his impact was low because Kubo had him stalemated or outright beaten by antagonists of an objectively lower caliber than Yhwach himself. His pre-Royal Palace Fullbring-Bankai form had far more impact because he wiped the floor with two Sternritter, Quilge and Shaz, in a couple chapters and a single panel respectively. It was actually heartening to see Ichigo treated with a serious level of respect and/or fear during the first Invasion. But after his supposed upgrade, he didn’t take a single decisive win against the Sternritter, not once, even despite his clearly enhanced stats. KOMAMURA and YACHIRU got more Second Invasion wins than the MC, because Aizen and Uryu carried Ichigo through the last Yhwach fight.
@ichigokurosaki9098
@ichigokurosaki9098 3 года назад
Seeing his true Bankai get treated like trash by Ywhach was disappointing to say the least
@ichigokurosaki9098
@ichigokurosaki9098 3 года назад
@Maab zafar before that, Ywhach broke it 1 time and nearly did it a second time
@JioVega
@JioVega 3 года назад
Ichigo has always just been in the middle of things, despite it being his choice or not. Kubo did a really amazing job setting up the enviornment and character relationship, and bleach's story makes much more sense when you look at Ichigo as the result of Aizen's tampering. Aizen accidentally brought Ichigos parents together, so hes semi responsible for Ichigo's creation.
@observemedia423
@observemedia423 3 года назад
I think Ichigo takes too many L's in the final arc. He doesn't really even beat Yhwach in the end. The only moment I actually felt that Ichigo was a big + for the soul society was when he saved Kenpachi. In the two other mega arcs Ichigo climbed the hierarchy of Antagonists and we saw EXACTLY how he stacked up against them. Where the TYBWA had him either do a small skirmish or deliberate loss. If he would have had a proper fight against Hashwalth like you said, (perhaps before he jump yeeted back up to the soul kings palace) then I think it would have worked much better for me.
@jordanjmdjmd74
@jordanjmdjmd74 Год назад
Agree 💯
@piotrj.451
@piotrj.451 3 года назад
I think almost everyone is underused in this arc, considering it's rushed...
@aboveaveragefrog4208
@aboveaveragefrog4208 3 года назад
Eh guys like Kenpachi and byakuya got overused. Only character I feel hit a sweet spot was Mayuri
@grizzlyv2.076
@grizzlyv2.076 2 года назад
Yeah... No. There's a wide list of characters who got loads of screentime, some more than they deserved. Kenpachi is the most obvious one, got several fights, character development, branched his already existing backstory. Got more than enough. Byakuya. Again, got amazing character development, plenty of great moments, a complete uninterrupted fight. Toshiro? He got enough, hell, even when he was dead he still managed to get screentime and good moments. Komamura? Not even gonna argue about this one, his best moment in the series was in this arc ffs. Shunsui? Probably the character who got the most exposure and developed the most, a backstory, his bankai revealed, got promoted, tons of interactions. Unohana? Even if her presence swift given her abrupt death, she got her first uninterrupted fight, a backstory, her bankai revealed, and fulfilled her purpose. Yoruichi, Urahara? New forms, bankai revealed, each got their own great fight, Yoruichi got her background expanded with the inclusion of her brother. Renji? Got his true bankai, participated in at least three different fights I can remember, nice development right near the end of the series in his talk with Ichigo, hell, he even headed WITH Ichigo to face THE final boss. Rukia? Got her Bankai, at least half a volume of an uninterrupted and amazing fight, what's there not to like? You all are so biased when talking about underused characters in this arc it's insane, so many characters got tons of development and amazing moments it's insane, far more than what they got in earlier arcs. Yeah, not all of them get their time to shine, no shit, the arc couldn't be a thousand chapters long, some of them had to get shafted.
@ANDREVILAFRANCA
@ANDREVILAFRANCA 3 года назад
The problem was the rushing of the 2nd half when Ichigo came back from the Royal Palace. It was clear he was gonna have a proper fight or 2 against the Sternritter. I just wish Kubo could've taken a year off to rest, maybe that way he could've done all the things he intended. Hopefully he fixes things in the anime like Byakuya's death, Ukitake's death and the asspull of Nanao's sword to beat Lile Barro.
@andyzhang7890
@andyzhang7890 3 года назад
I think they really could have dived deep into the Ishida lore, and had Ichigo vs Uryu be not only a battle between friends, but also between two family histories and two races. Woulda been a really climactic fight.
@AJ-kt5zo
@AJ-kt5zo 3 года назад
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@stevenma5188
@stevenma5188 3 года назад
I agree that there should have been more of a focus on Ichigo, since he is literally the protagonist. However, I do feel that this happens more generally and is a byproduct of having too many good guys to focus on. It could also purely be just a pacing issue, as we know that Kubo rushed to end the series.
@therealmalik1119
@therealmalik1119 3 года назад
I do think he was a bit underused in the final arc but it never really bothered me. The moments he was used were always great in my opinion
@blakekindred9967
@blakekindred9967 3 года назад
Came across this page the other day here at work an just you do a great job with making a video you can watch or listen too and still really understand it. I love the man work man could we get more on ichigos sword training like his mental training be awesome to hear thanks man.
@robertlee9602
@robertlee9602 3 года назад
I feel his involvement was done just fine. The heroic entrance, if he was constantly around beating/fighting everyone people would get sick of him.
@cirmal3826
@cirmal3826 3 года назад
@@hahmann a great way to explain it
@Lawxless
@Lawxless 3 года назад
I wish he got another 1v1 fight with another strong Quincy
@LightOwl-o8o
@LightOwl-o8o 3 года назад
Yes. I needed more badass moments from him.
@hakaishinkage9899
@hakaishinkage9899 3 года назад
No. It's better that other characters got their own moments too
@spectre1366
@spectre1366 3 года назад
I think Ichigo was rightfully not focused on as much. Between Aizen and the Fullbringers, those arcs were pivoted directly around Ichigo. Aizen was proxy training him to fight at the full power of the Hyogouku, directing and planning every fight and competition he had. Then Ginjo wanted to use Ichigo to attain his full fulbring and use him to take out the Gotei because Ginjo was pissed after being betrayed by the Shinigami after what Tokinada and Jushiro did their parts and all that. The TYBW was the arc not focused on Ichigo. Ywach didn't care about him that much to the extent he would have killed him if Blut didn't activate. The Quincy wanted to destroy the Gotei, Ywach wanted Yama. Ichigo was just another Soul Reaper to Ywach. Yeah he was one of the war potentials along with Kenpachi and Aizen but that was a minor plot point after the second invasion began. It would have made the arc worse in my opinion of Ichigo was focused on as much as he was in the previous arcs. It's called The Thousand Year Blood War for a reason. It's the Gotei vs the Stern Ritter. Not Ichigo vs *input another evil organisation here*
@joshleo4747
@joshleo4747 3 года назад
I love your videos man. Im so glad I found your channel
@wolverineisdaman
@wolverineisdaman 3 года назад
I wouldn't say he was underused as much as I would say that the spotlight was placed a bit more on the other Soul Reapers.
@AmeerBANKAI
@AmeerBANKAI 3 года назад
They became the protagonists lol
@aizen7105
@aizen7105 3 года назад
Great video. I always look forward to ur vids EVERY WEEK. keep it up been here since 1k subs😁
@ayusshanubhav2097
@ayusshanubhav2097 3 года назад
"They are gonna play no 1 on that" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@1minion203
@1minion203 3 года назад
I think Kubo had so many characters by the end that it was inevitable that certain ones weren't going to get highlighted to the same degree as others, so there was always a risk of fun or popular ones getting left behind as the story moved forward. I know I wanted to see more of Ichigo's new double sword/bankai powers getting used to kick ass, but alas.. Considering how rare duals swords were, apparently, it was extra exciting.
@RikugameZen
@RikugameZen 3 года назад
I became a fan of bleach through the anime about 4 years ago while recovering from shoulder surgery. However, I wasn't sure about the manga until I started watching your channel. I am now half way through the final arc. I never mind spoilers because it has only ever made me want to read it for myself. To the point now, so far where I'm at, I'm personally not upset with his showing thus far.
@calle9094
@calle9094 3 года назад
I agree with several of your points, but I would like to add that it makes Ichigo seem more real when he is not in every big fight in the series.
@jooka2010
@jooka2010 3 года назад
The way his Bankai was treated is pretty my only issue with jt
@AlimonyJ
@AlimonyJ 3 года назад
Would love a video discussing all the fodder characters that get introduced at the very beginning of the TYBWA. A great example being the 2 new shinigami ichigo and his friends save that just vanish after the first invasion.
@SaltyFrenchFry_
@SaltyFrenchFry_ 3 года назад
The thing is he has developed so much and he was hyped up so much yet all what we get was little to almost nothing from that. I get what you mean and I totally agree ( about the fights and the whole war and other characters). In my opinion, all what needed was just one fight, show us his new arsenal his new powers( his full potential ) or keep the same events but spread his abilities between them. That’s what I believe was missing and that was the source of my disappointment.
@arrandillett1985
@arrandillett1985 3 года назад
Great video again mrtommo. As for ichigo's involvement in tybw arc I don't think he's as involved as much as a main character probably should be and I don't think that's a bad thing. At the end of the day it's a war so battles will be happening all over the place and some of the focus has to be placed on the other characters and let them have there big moments fans have waited for
@MrTommo2304
@MrTommo2304 3 года назад
Thank you! I completely agree - his involvement is markedly different to how he's used in previous arcs but I think it works here.
@kushagrasharma5402
@kushagrasharma5402 3 года назад
I believe it's good for a MC to be hidden for the story, other characters and also for the status of the MC as a hero. MrTommo the thing is the arc had left out about 4 years of work but as you know Kubo's health started to deteriorate. But I do believe he will use his original plans.
@Shaphi868
@Shaphi868 3 года назад
Your analysis was spot on! You are a true Bleach fan
@Will-wv7sn
@Will-wv7sn 3 года назад
Did Ichigo do enough? The real question is DID ISHIDA DO ENOUGH!!?
@Somaxs21
@Somaxs21 3 года назад
Ichigo could have definitely used a few more impactful lengthier fights during the TYBW Arc. His fight with Quilge Opie was a fine start and would be consider the Dordoni equivalent of the TYBW. His next fight, Round 1 vs Yhwach would have been the equivalent of Ichigo vs Aizen first encounter in Soul Society were Yhwach just decimates Ichigo until he start instinctively using Blut Vene allowing him to slightly keep up against Yhwach, this get him quite excited seeing Ichigo "Latent Ability" War Potential with his very eyes (currently not being able to see the future with his Almighty) and decides to capture him at that very moment until he stopped by the "Schatten Bereich" and is forced to withdraw leaving Haschwald to deal with him however he likes. Then we have Round 1 of Ichigo vs Haschwald were Jugram plays the role of Ulquiorra during his Round 1&2 fight (testing his Hollow powers but instead his awaken Quincy powers) and after a while ends the fight using The Balance to destroy his Bankai shocking Ichigo and safely retreats knowing he forcefully neutralized Ichigo from chasing them. After his training in the Royal Palace he saves Kenpachi and fights a Sternritter (could be other members) , in this case Candice and overwhelm her and then neutralizes the other Bambis. After which Bazz B arrives since all the Sternritter are after him since he is a War Potential and he gets a proper fight with him (The equivalent of Grimmjow invasion of Karakura Round 1 fight) That get interrupted when Yhwach makes he announcement to invade the Royal Palace. Ichigo attempts to stop Yhwach but Bazz B won't let him leave until Renji arrives to take his place were he ends up fighting Bazz B until the Auswählen ends their fight. Ichigo chases and the other 7 Sternritter arrives to stop him from reaching his Majesty and he successfully dodges/handles them until the Gotei 13 arrive to support him. Then we have Ichigo vs Yhwach Round 2 in the Royal Throne Room (Equivalent of Aizen Round 2 in Fake Karakura) were he eventually gets interrupted by Uryu while Yhwach fights the Right Hand of the Soul King (equivalent of Gin vs Ichigo Round 2 which is also fitting since his goal is to betray Yhwach) and then ends when Yhwach successfully defeats the Right Hand and Uryu breaks the floor to save Ichigo. Finally during the Wahrwelt portion of the arc, Ichigo tussles with the Schutzstaffel one by one attempting to stop him from reaching his Majesty but the Gotei 13 paved the way. He finally gets stopped by Haschwald currently holding The Almighty (who also has seen a glimpse of the future, aka the dream he gives to Yhwach) and ends up having a Round 2 with Ichigo and fights him, showcasing to Ichigo a portion of the Almighty power and preparing him for his eventual final fight with Yhwach (making the reveal of the true power of The Almighty much more impactful). Then Uryu arrives and betrays Haschwald and reveals to Ichigo that Yhwach is currently vulnerable since Haschwald has the Almighty and that he is just stalling time and tells him to go after Yhwach while he handles Haschwald. Eventually Ichigo doesn't make it in time and has his Round 3&4 against Yhwach as his final fight.
@Somaxs21
@Somaxs21 3 года назад
TLDR: Ichigo fights should have been much more impactful and lengthier. His fight with 1) Quilge : Is the TYBW equivalent vs Privaron Espada Dordoni. 2) Yhwach : (Round 1) Equivalent of Soul Society Aizen fight. 3) Haschwald : (Round 1) Equivalent of Ulquiorra Round 1&2 fights of him testing his Hollow powers but instead his Quincy powers. 4) Candice : Showcase his new strength/ growth and instead of requiring his Bankai to defeat a Sternritter like Quilge he only used his True Shikai. 5) Bazz B : Equivalent of Grimmjow Round 1 fight in Karakura Town that gets interrupted by the invasion of the Royal Palace and Renji taking his place during the fight. 6) Yhwach Round 2 & Uryu in the Throne Room: Fights Yhwach until he accidentally injures the Soul King then Uryu fights him while Yhwach is dealing with the Right Hand of the Soul King (Uryu fight is the equivalent of Gin vs Ichigo Round 2 in Fake Karakura) 7) Schutzstaffel : Short fights of them attempting to stop Ichigo from reaching his Majesty and showcasing how strong currently is Ichigo. 8) Haschwald (Round 2) : Rematch and equivalent of Ulquiorra vs Ichigo Round 3. Jugram is stalling for time by using the Almighty during the fight showcasing it for his eventual final fight against Yhwach and the True Almighty powers (equivalent of Segunda Etapa reveal). Is interrupted by Uryu betray and taking Ichigo place during the rest of the fight while Ichigo continues to go after Yhwach. 9&10) Final fight against Yhwach : His fight in Soul Society should be lengthier. I believe 10 lengthy/well drawn out proper fights during the course of 262 chapters of the TYBW Arc isn't too much to ask for our protagonist during the final arc of the series.
@user-zq1ib6cm3i
@user-zq1ib6cm3i 3 года назад
Well, even though we get a lot of Information explaining Ichigo's background (which is awsome), and a lot of time spent on preparing for final battle, Ichigo does not do much. I mean, he did kill the Yhwach, but it was really bleak and deus ex machine..... Now, his fight against "The Jail" is awsome moment, even though fight itself is not, then he is one shoted, then healed and trained, then he comes down to Soul Society, comes up to Royal Palace, has an unispiering fight against Almighty, and then he kills him. Yep, not much.......... actually, his role is very undramatic, if someone read only TYBW, he would be certain it was Kenpachi or Mayuri who is the main character.
@joshleo4747
@joshleo4747 3 года назад
Could you do a character analysis of Kugo ginjo or toshiro
@gramaandrei1948
@gramaandrei1948 3 года назад
Good job man!
@DFTNSHEXGRM
@DFTNSHEXGRM 3 года назад
I think it was a missed opportunity to have Grimmjow be forced into teaming up with Ichigo to fight one of the more powerful Sternritter like Haschwald or someone of that caliber. As cool as it was for Grimmjow to help Urahara, he should have been put into a position against a strong enemy that left the door open for an unlikely team up with Ichigo and it would have helped to close out their rivalry a bit.
@chillin_squirtle
@chillin_squirtle 3 года назад
I think that the problem a lot of fans had with Ichigo in the final arc was that we never really saw the full extent of Ichigos true Bankai. While we (finally) got to see the bankais of beloved characters like Urahara, Kenpachi and Kyoraku and their powers, Ichigos new Bankai was basically almost immediately destroyed by Ywach. I remember back when I was reading the chapter, I was so disappointed that after years of chapters and storyline we thought we'll finally got to see the MC true powers and then it didn't do anything. It would have been really epic if Ichigo had used his full hollow and quincy potential in the final battle against Yhwach.
@MrTommo2304
@MrTommo2304 3 года назад
I think breaking Ichigo's Bankai would've been fine if that wasn't the final battle. I remember reading it weekly and being like :O because I thought that Yhwach would escape and there'd be like 3, 4 more volumes of build up before an actual finale. How wrong I was.
@nicknelson3234
@nicknelson3234 3 года назад
I just wanted him fight at full power just once. Horn of Salvation, Bankai, trying his hardest.
@jaredkk1989
@jaredkk1989 3 года назад
Maybe ichigo can have a rival fight with uryu in the anime. Something that has some type of back story or dialog that leads to the arrow that stalled yuha. Im actually excited about the anime and hope they expand many fights and plot points.
@abdoul5176
@abdoul5176 2 года назад
Ichigoat never disappoints! But on another note I'd love more background/info/lore on the Shiba clan, fingers crossed we get something in the anime if not the Hell arc 🤞🏿
@Avani0okami
@Avani0okami 3 года назад
Last time i was this early yamamoto had black hair
@ShippuuNaruto
@ShippuuNaruto 3 года назад
I think it's nice to see that Bleach has so many great characters that it's not necessary to focus on Ichigo most the time! I've read the TYBW arc when the manga was finished so I didn't wait for new chapter/volumes and could enjoy it in like one piece and with all this interesting fights and character development I didn't miss Ichigo. It's also a war between the Quincy and the Soul Society so I think it was good this way.
@outlierpluto1337
@outlierpluto1337 3 года назад
What was underused in this arc was the Arrancars, they were being made to follow the Quincys in this war, would've been cool to see a couple of Arrancar fights with the Soul Reapers and during the war, the Arrancars eventually betray the Quincys to join the Soul Reapers in their battle against their former masters. It would be nice since they were being heavily mistreated by them and could help with more Grimmjow and Nelliel exposure (Tier exposure would be nice but considering her state, I don't think we could get it)
@IppoX90
@IppoX90 3 года назад
I didn't feel so, really and since I like both main and supporting cast, I don't really care anyways. The involvement is enough for me and feels satisfactory. As you said, as much as I like him (he's actually my favorite MC out of ANY anime) , I too don't read Bleach just for Ichigo.
@TheKrypticCode
@TheKrypticCode 3 года назад
Looking back retroactively now I could say that I don't really mind that Ichigo isn't around as much this arc given the kind of story and the time-frame Kubo was working with. We already spent pretty much the entire time with him and barely anyone else in the Lost Agent arc.
@josephvirella5915
@josephvirella5915 3 года назад
It is fair to say that Kubo was being rushed to end this Arc , I believe if the Arc was not rushed it would've turned out better and more meaning to this Arc , I just hop the anime gives more detail to this Arc , because necessarily Kubo doesn't have to go by the manga he can actually go the way he wanted to but also give that same feel of characters in the final Arc and battles
@zerorequiem6016
@zerorequiem6016 3 года назад
The real unused character was don kanoji BOHAHAHAHA
@izayathetroll4322
@izayathetroll4322 3 года назад
Don kanonji and kon are underused as hell.
@kakashihatake6052
@kakashihatake6052 3 года назад
@@izayathetroll4322 if you are not joking than not every named character needs to used
@TheDanTheDan15
@TheDanTheDan15 3 года назад
ENOUGH ABOUT THOSE TWO!!😡
@izayathetroll4322
@izayathetroll4322 3 года назад
@@kakashihatake6052 I was joking, jeez man.
@doryaar1339
@doryaar1339 3 года назад
I think he was used very well.. he was involved just the exact amount he was needed to not been shoved down our throats like most other shonen main protagonist.. I completely agree with how you finished the video
@rodneylane952
@rodneylane952 3 года назад
Like you alluded to, I think it speaks to the greatness of the side characters when Kubo can just allow them to their thing without Ichigo being around. It was great seeing the Gotei shine and not being pushed away like the side characters in other popular shonen
@SatoshiSosuke
@SatoshiSosuke 3 года назад
I just thought of this! I know that in a lot of videos recently that you say how TYBW is just a better Fake Karakura arc, and what if when Aizen revealed that he was always using Kyoka Suigetsu when fighting the captains, all of the Espada that were dead/defeated, were shown to still be standing and in prime condition after everyone was worn down? I barely discovered your channel and I've been watching the more recent stuff so I don't know if you've floated this idea before. Apologies in advance if you have lol
@Coreyy12
@Coreyy12 Год назад
I think it’s actually cool that Ichigo can have his fights, but the series isn’t totally reliant on him. Remember some of Byakuya’s supposed “last words” were “You shouldn’t even be here.” Meaning to me that this fight doesn’t _DIRECTLY_ affect him or he didn’t initially have a dog in the fight because like it was stated, the Sternritter is the true enemy of the Gotei/Soul Society. Ichigo has no connection or want of revenge against the Quincy until he arrives at Soul Society and sees Byakuya on his death stone slab
@campbell8260
@campbell8260 3 года назад
I feel like ichigo needed one more hard fought battle to really showcase how much he'd improved.
@MrTommo2304
@MrTommo2304 3 года назад
Yeah I think that's what is missing here crucially - there's nothing wrong with him dunking on the Bambies because that is a nice and easy way of showing how far above them he is. But he needed a typical, long Ichigo battle.
@slevinchannel7589
@slevinchannel7589 Месяц назад
Shikai-Writing-Prompt: I'm Idea-Scouting and just want to see what differing Ideas people come up withh for the following brief explanation: The Shikai allows the concepts of distance and diversity to be manipulated when in direct correlation to eachother! This allows him to cut minions or enemies and improve or degrade their teleportation abilities.
@crosis2
@crosis2 3 года назад
What I missed in TYBW was a feat of Ichigo on his own. He almost did nothing other than running after he reforged his Bankai. And there we did not see how strong it is just that Ywach can outplay it. Maybe Ichigo should had just beaten Gerard Valkyrie at the point where the other captains failed, Kenpachi failed to use his bankai properly and Ichigo just save the day there that he is more of a miracle than Gerard.
@MrTommo2304
@MrTommo2304 3 года назад
I agree, for the finale of the series, Ichigo is treated a bit strangely right at the end. As much as I like Askin, having Ichigo just faceplant against him so close to the end of the series was odd.
@noahkatzenberger8707
@noahkatzenberger8707 2 года назад
I think you pretty much nailed it right on the head. I believe his involvement was pretty much ideal. I mean I think there’s way worse things you could complain about with the arc…like you said he is aligned with the gotei but he’s never been like a integral part of their system and this is very much everyone else’s war as much as ichigo. It makes sense for him to go to heuco mundo and fight to help nel and scout the situation, and I think he does enough throughout as a whole
@camiloiribarren1450
@camiloiribarren1450 3 года назад
A quick side note, has anyone considered that Ichigo is related to Ganju, Kukkaku and Kaien Shiba due to the fact that Isshin, Ichigo’s father, is also a Shiba? I wonder if MrTommo will make a video on that little flashback when Isshin was Captain of squad 10, with Rangiku as his Lieutenant and Toshiro as the 3rd seat. It would be interesting
@nakazatelen141
@nakazatelen141 Год назад
I personally love it when the author gives attention to any other character other than the main. Ichigo has already had enough moments in previous arcs and I love it how in TYBW the attention is not always on him.
@alexr4505
@alexr4505 3 года назад
Tbh i feel like kubo just thought ichigo was too powerful after he got his true bankai so he had to save him specifically for yhwach , hopefully the anime makes the final battle wayyyyyy longer tho. And loved this video bro comin from a ichigo stan 🔥🔥😩
@aliveandwellinisrael2507
@aliveandwellinisrael2507 3 года назад
He should have shown off his new power more. I know he stomped the female Sternritters, but he should have actually killed a decent number of them post-RG training. We saw Kenpachi appear with a bunch of them dead over his shoulders, and we should have seen something similar. Yeah, Ichigo isn't one to go out of his way to kill people, but the Quincies were the most serious threat in the series. They were out to kill anyone they came across, putting all of Ichigo's shinigami friends/allies in peril. I also don't think Askin should have been able to easily take out someone who was a candidate for SK. Whatever happened to abilities being negated by reiatsu? I think it's safe to say Ichigo's reiatsu is far above that of Askin. I mean, Ichigo's stronger than he was against Aizen. I guess the only difference is that Dangai Ichigo's power was always activated, while TYBW Ichigo kept his power sealed, and only fully released it when he used his bankai against Yhwach. Anyway, he should have killed some Quincies. I don't think it's believable to have a drawn-out fight like we used to get, simply because if he's fighting to protect people, he'll be going all out, and if he's going all out, the individual Sternritters just aren't really a threat like e.g. the Espada were.
@Jack12004
@Jack12004 3 года назад
Love this ❤️❤️
@greyworld6242
@greyworld6242 3 года назад
Think it was done well. Can you make a video on orihime’s character? WatTheWut made a great video on her recently and it really helped understand the character better.
@MrTommo2304
@MrTommo2304 3 года назад
I'd love to in the future!
@greyworld6242
@greyworld6242 3 года назад
@@MrTommo2304 great!
@nightdevon
@nightdevon 3 года назад
Til this day, I still dont know what Ichigo’s new bankai does.
@iandavis4213
@iandavis4213 3 года назад
Nobody but Kubo does.
@ragnar19968
@ragnar19968 3 года назад
Probably getsuga tensho 2.0
@AJ-kt5zo
@AJ-kt5zo 3 года назад
@Roman Francis I agree with you would of love two 👀 see him fight and stay in Mugestu form without losing his 🔋 power's. Especially it stated in don't to 😱 fear your own world Ichigo regains or the hollow ( arrancar vaste -lorde , Quincy -General) returns twice as potent . It implies a huge chunk of his full-bring returns to him as well.
@gregllo424
@gregllo424 2 года назад
@MrTommo2304 I see it like this: I do wish Ichigo had maybe oneeee more fight before Yhwach. Either win Uryu or Jurgram. But I don't mind it not being there as well. The main focus of the story IS ICHIGO. Bleach is a character driven plot not a story driven one. We are supposed to learn about ICHIGO and himself. Throughout the manga he learns about himself, we learn about him, and thus we learn about ourselves. So I think it was great that we got to see Kubo finally complete Ichigo's self actaulization fully. Those moments of despair with old man zangetsu and his self acceptance are far more valuable to me then a few more fights with some no name sternritters he could easily mop up. Ichigo's journey is one of the best in shounen manga. It was crafted extremely well by Kubo. So to conclude I wish there was one more fight or so, but I wouldn't have it any other way if that meant his character would be mitigated because of it. Also, Kubo was rushing and working under limited time so it does make a lil sense.
@damianspratt3751
@damianspratt3751 3 года назад
Definitely wish we cod have had a proper fight where he could showcase his new banki. All we got was a 5 minute view then it was broken then never to be seen again. I would have liked to see the full extent of his powers at that point.
@MrTommo2304
@MrTommo2304 3 года назад
Yeah I think this is how most people feel, if only we'd seen his Bankai properly.
@therightone5708
@therightone5708 3 года назад
I think people would not have this complain if the last fight was atleast decent. Hell people would have been satisfied if we just got to see his true bankai.
@George-jc3mt
@George-jc3mt 3 года назад
I would have loved to see an ichigo 1v1
@faceagain5703
@faceagain5703 3 года назад
imo he just needed one big fight before going to the big bad . Idk beating an elite , or hasch after his fight with bazz b . Like showcasing hos SHIKAI for the first time vs hasch beating him then going on to fight yuha It feels like the entire arc ichigo just fights yuha mainly and its unfair fighting the big bad while others have awesome fights with the weaker quincies
@MrTommo2304
@MrTommo2304 3 года назад
Yeah I totally agree. It's weird that Ichigo doesn't have that 8 - 10 or so chapter long battle outside of the one with Yhwach. He's all over the place.
@AJ-kt5zo
@AJ-kt5zo 3 года назад
@@MrTommo2304 💙
@ludasrayjin1158
@ludasrayjin1158 3 года назад
I like ichigo's development in the tybw and I didn't really have a problem that he didn't get a lot of moments that every Mc get Because this is something I really love about bleach that bleach isn't just about ichigo, but I can see where the fans are coming from
@manuelacosta9463
@manuelacosta9463 3 года назад
Part of me also believes that Kubo really wanted to show how Soul Society's chickens really came home to roost in the finale by showing the war's effect on others besides Ichigo.
@heyyo225
@heyyo225 3 года назад
Except everything goes back to the status quo. There’s still a Central 46 despite us knowing how shit they are from the very first arc, the Soul King is a literal corpse and would’ve been Ichigo himself if Ichibe and Kyoraku are to be believed, Mayuri murdered millions in Soul Society in the final arc with no real backlash (I think he may have wiped them off the reincarnation cycle too), the fate of “retired” shinigami in Soul Society... Absolutely nothing has really changed, and probably won’t until Ichigo and his friends reincarnate in Soul Society.
@manuelacosta9463
@manuelacosta9463 3 года назад
@@heyyo225 True. The only slight silver lining is that by the time of Renji and Rukia's wedding there are many questioning the status quo and truth about the war. Even Kira and Yoruichi are among them, the corrupt nobles are not popular for obvious reasons. It's ironic yet unsurprising that Tokinada, the worst psycho of Gotei 13 is one of the few who called everyone and everything out for their sins and hypocrisy. We'll see how things turn out, but I agree with Aizen's prediction that Soul Society is doomed due to it's own atrocities and corruption.
@SwfanredLotr
@SwfanredLotr Год назад
What Ichigo needed was a proper fight that ended with him winning in order to showcase in a convincing way his training and controlled powers because apart from Ebern who he beats, his main fights against Quilge and Candice get interrupted just when Ichigo was dominating them beforehand. There is also barely a clash with Uryu even if I can understand that Kubo didn't want to overextend the drama of his "betrayal".
@wadeaeichele6943
@wadeaeichele6943 3 года назад
Can you do a video about uryu ishida involvement in Thousand Year blood War? or a character analysis?
@That_Guy_Antonio
@That_Guy_Antonio 3 года назад
There are definitely a few Characters should have done more in TYBW Such as Ryuken, Isshin, Uryu, Ginjo, Haschwalth, ALL THE VIZARDS, The remaining Espada and most definitely Chad
@kakashihatake6052
@kakashihatake6052 3 года назад
I seriously feel like kubo will fix most of the things, its up to kubo the animation team will just say ok if kubo wants it, they are just going to get more money if there is more content
@charlieedwards4331
@charlieedwards4331 3 года назад
I just finished reading the Thousand Year Blood War arc and I do think Ichigo could’ve done more fighting in the arc! I feel like I watched more supporting characters fight the enemy than Ichigo!
@lucasclements8334
@lucasclements8334 2 года назад
I just finished reading the arc an hour ago, and coming from someone who is not a fan of side character fights, I'm all about the mc, I loved this arc and the captains fighting even if it was 40 chapters without him, It got me out of my chair, seeing kempachi using his bankai or the captains being controlled by the quincy
@papaaeon7210
@papaaeon7210 3 года назад
I feel like if Yhwach v Ichigo had been like a 20 chapter all out brawl then everything would have been worth it. Its just you wait this entire arc, all this training and build up, and the best thing you can say about it is that one panel where Ichigo gives up and Aizen using Kyoka Suigetsu
@yakshaat936
@yakshaat936 3 года назад
Yeah, I didn't have a problem with him not doing much because I loved all the other characters and their moments.
@victorcippitelli2242
@victorcippitelli2242 3 года назад
You should do someday a Ichigo character analysis
@loganalvarez2985
@loganalvarez2985 3 года назад
Any time fake karkura town arc and tybw are brought up in the same sentence: Tommo: "TYBW WAS A BETTER WAR STORY‐ now back to the topic at hand" Not saying in a mean way love your videos man
@CrazyFoo501
@CrazyFoo501 3 года назад
I'm more interested in the Captains than Ichigo myself But I do think it is a bit of a problem that we don't get to see True Shikai/Bankai Ichigo do much or implement Quincy abilities into his arsenal save Blut Vene once (as far as I remember at least). Ichigo has never been a fancy fighter with an array of techniques but it would have been nice to see his Shika and Bankai gain a new ability which it really doesn't.
@LeoArmada
@LeoArmada 3 года назад
everybody's gangster, till Zero Requiem cames in the chat
@asianpersuasion4901
@asianpersuasion4901 3 года назад
Yes. Too op to allow him to do more. Destroyed Quilge, destroyed another sternritter ON HIS WAY to ywatch, then had a skirmish with the girls then left for soul palace, skirmish with askin, then fought ywatch.
@charliewenger7682
@charliewenger7682 2 года назад
I think not having a rival character in the final arc makes sense considering the one he had in the soul society and Arrancar arc were revealed to be machination by Aizen. I would have been fully satisfyied with his role if only the final fight lasted longer, but that was ultimetly out of Kubo's control.
@damariojackson3919
@damariojackson3919 3 года назад
Yes I wanted to see Ichigo body some fuckin quincys we barely get to see his new powers we dont even get to see him use his bankai because it literally got cut in half in the next panel we only got a glimpse of him using his true hollow powers with his zankpatous and he gets absolutely destroyed by Ywach in the end anyway it sucks not seeing the mc flex their new powers after a power up
@skynyrdjesus
@skynyrdjesus 3 года назад
I think Ichigo was more or less where he needed to be at all times, there were just way too many characters to juggle and devote screen time to, but I think he certainly should've had a defining battle against one of the schuttzstaffel
@asianpersuasion4901
@asianpersuasion4901 3 года назад
Imagine if somehow Ywatch could get to soul palace without ichigo having to come down first. All the top sternritter pull up and Ichigo is just waiting there, ready to take them all on
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