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Was Nathan B. Forrest a Civil Rights Pioneer? (The Civil War Diaries S4E29) 

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From Nathan Bedford Forrest's speech delivered on July 5th, 1875 to the National Pole bearers association, and early black civl rights and para-military group. The full transcript of the speech and the days events can be found here. chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lc...
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Комментарии : 35   
@CSA1861
@CSA1861 Месяц назад
My favorite speech of his and my go to to dispell the myth that continues to be perpetuted about our gallant ancestors. Deo Vindice
@bettyluvsjoe
@bettyluvsjoe Месяц назад
Your content is some of the best out there on the civil war.
@BirdDogg
@BirdDogg Месяц назад
Ahh, thanks Betty. I’m trying to figure ways to make it better every chance I get, hopefully I will have more time to devote to it once I can get the house done. Appreciate ya!
@Stormbringer505
@Stormbringer505 Месяц назад
Different time different cultures the people of the USA have no room to criticize the culture of the south if you look at all the BS they promote today.
@stevesither7270
@stevesither7270 Месяц назад
I agree
@jeremiahgood3352
@jeremiahgood3352 Месяц назад
I don't know where you get this articles and footage at but you are doing absolutely amazing keep it up, the truth needs to be told about the civil war. If we forget our history we are doomed to repeat it
@kevinbarrow5396
@kevinbarrow5396 Месяц назад
We already are!you ever ask yourself how much it cost to maintain a slave for the year and then compare it to the average yearly salary!?do the math and shame the devil!the 13th amendment is a farce!
@BirdDogg
@BirdDogg Месяц назад
Sadly when I get deep in the weeds RU-vid buries it, just look at the view count 🤷🏻‍♂️ go from 30,000 views in a week to 400 if they don’t like what I’m saying.. 🤦🏻‍♂️
@kevinbarrow5396
@kevinbarrow5396 Месяц назад
@@BirdDogg it just shows you that 1st amendment is dead!
@johnnotrealname8168
@johnnotrealname8168 Месяц назад
From what I have found he genuinely meant this and he did deliver the speech.
@johnjameson2731
@johnjameson2731 Месяц назад
Thanks BirdDogg for posting the truth, from a true Southern Gentleman, Nathan Bedford Forrest. DEO VINDICE ❤.
@user-wp7fm2xx1g
@user-wp7fm2xx1g Месяц назад
bird dog your on your game i been showing folks that speech for yrs R.I.P. OL' BEDFORD
@alanmoberly64
@alanmoberly64 Месяц назад
The unfortunate part about history is the dead can no longer defend themselves in the court of public opinion. Their reputations come and go based on the whims of the day. Just like us all, his life experience would keep him evolving as a person. So many want to pick a point in someone’s life and act as if that is who they were from cradle to grave. At sixty my thoughts are nowhere near what they were at twenty. I see the same thing being done to General Lee.
@westtnskirmishlog6820
@westtnskirmishlog6820 Месяц назад
Excellent was as always. This kind of material make a few other groups big time mad. Its hard to accept that the good ol US are not, have not been the gloriois liberators and peacebringers we have been told. Fun and feelgood as that is to imagine.
@SoutheastRelicHunters
@SoutheastRelicHunters Месяц назад
Thank you for posting this! The truth of this man needs to be told. He does not deserve to be vilified. He should be the poster-boy for acceptance, reconciliation, and equal rights
@-sunstar9778
@-sunstar9778 Месяц назад
Birdogg, thank you for these historically factual videos. I'm especially enjoying the Civil War diaries of General Nathan Bedford Forrest, a CSA military tactician and beloved calvaryman. I would love to see a similar video on Colonel John Singleton Mosby, the CSA 'Gray Ghost' calvaryman of Virginia. Hope you can also post additional videos of Civil War medicine and battlefield surgery. Love your channel ❤️ 💕
@Thecompactrepublic
@Thecompactrepublic Месяц назад
There is nothing more powerful than primary resources like this. Btw their were many other Confederate leaders doing similar things. General Beauregard and Senator Herschel Johnson of Georgia to name a few. Bless you and keep up the good work.
@mrkitty1367
@mrkitty1367 Месяц назад
Always a goodun !
@rc59191
@rc59191 Месяц назад
"AtunShei sweats nervously"
@danh6720
@danh6720 9 дней назад
AtunShei addressed Forrest in his video "Did the CONFEDERACY Have BETTER GENERALS?!?!?!" at 13:40 and the 1875 speech at 18:51. Didn't seem to be sweating nervously.
@andrewsward46
@andrewsward46 Месяц назад
Let’s take a look at Forrest’s history, the organization he addressed, and the context in which he spoke. For him to say it had always been his intention never to depress anyone is an astonishing claim for a slave catcher, slave trader, convict labor pioneer, murderer of one of his black laborers, and Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan during a time when its members terrorized black people to the point of burning down black schools and murdering black schoolteachers. He was speaking at a time when the Exoduster movement threatened to persuade the black laborers he depended on to flee the South for parts north and west. It was to dissuade black folks from leaving the south that he addressed a group that also felt threatened that the movement would reduce its political power. If he ever stood between black troops and his men it was because he regarded them as slaves and as such valuable to the Confederate cause; most of the black survivors at Fort Pillow, for instance, were put to work at building defenses in the Deep South. The only part of this speech one can take at face value is his expression of fondness for black women, which he had already demonstrated by siring a daughter by his slave cook.
@kevinbarrow5396
@kevinbarrow5396 Месяц назад
Obviously you never hear the library of congress interviews with holt collier!
@BirdDogg
@BirdDogg Месяц назад
Been on the internet doing your research I see. I’d refer you to period documentation. You see propaganda was just as strong then as it is today. Many of the claims you made are easily disprovable by the official records of both CS and US troops. Was he a slaver, yup, sure was, it was a legal business. Convict labor on his farm was largely white convicts, klan records show he was elected grand wizard at a meeting he wasn’t even present at and his first and only order was to disband because they were committing acts of violence(he even offered to personally hunt down some of the offenders) and the reports at fort pillow of a massacre were given by troops that weren’t even present. Supposedly he “buried troops alive” At fort pillow…. Union troops buried all their own dead at Pillow… Forrest was vilified by propaganda media in an effort to drum up public support and sentiment regarding freeing the slaves(the initial enlistment surge that joined simply to keep the union had ended and they needed a new cause to gather troops, enter emancipation(but only for slaves in southern states, folks in New Jersey, Delaware, Maryland Kentucky, West Virginia etc etc were allowed to keep their slaves, some even after the war was over…Forest was a practical man and his documented actions show that. Do work on those sources, google is failing you
@westtnskirmishlog6820
@westtnskirmishlog6820 Месяц назад
​@BirdDogg I'd have given anything for you to have been at the 160th anniversary at the park a few weeks ago now. 4 "speakers" came up from Memphis, all of them involved with both city politics and one who is a "preacher" with no seminary schooling at all and a completely online congregation. They spoke on nothing but, why the park should be given to NPS to, "tell a more accurate history" how Forrest was the reason black men were in jail as much as theyvare today, how we descendants are carrying on hate, lies and murder, and finally, why they all deserve to be cut a check and added that the first to have their money garnished was in fact confederate descendants. They weren't popular except to the 8 people they brought with them. The park guests just kinda slowly walked away from the clearing where they were speaking. The two independent historians/special guests made them mad during their speeches and the little check hunter group left having witnessed none of the demonstrations or exhibits that had taken two weeks to set up specifically for them. Guess the narrative was more important than being showed how wrong they were about so much. We locals push hard to keep that site state run and not run by a government park program, that very much has a special kind of history we are all supposed to buy. Thank you for all your work sir.
@kevinbarrow5396
@kevinbarrow5396 Месяц назад
@westtnskirmishlog6820 this union will crumble under the lies taught to its people!they have taught that the war between the states was over slavery!well,slavery was legal until the 13th amendment making the federal government murderers of their own people!and so.e are willing to except the truth!which is the war was over seccession!but if you believe what our forefathers believed every person has a right to choose what is best for their own personal growth!and if there is a unfavorable union.every american has the right to choose to absolve that union!today we watch as obiden,systematically attempts to start another war between the American people!correct me if I'm wrong wasn't someone quoted as saying there would be someone coming to destroy this nation around the time that the twin towers was attacked!?isn't Obama from the Middle East?also satisfy my curiosity!how are we seeing so many Chinese government officials now and weren't they slaves that helped build the railroads as slaves after the war!?
@kevinbarrow5396
@kevinbarrow5396 Месяц назад
@westtnskirmishlog6820 the slaves will bankrupt the union!much like the war!and once again america will be bought by the highest bidder!before it was the Vanderbilt and four other families!today it'll be owned by the tech billionaires!
@mtnman3MTA3
@mtnman3MTA3 Месяц назад
He may have been a good soldier. He was, undeniably, a terrible person.
@kevinbarrow5396
@kevinbarrow5396 Месяц назад
Another person with a perspective of today's crappy 1 sided perspective!
@BirdDogg
@BirdDogg Месяц назад
Subjective at best.
@kevinbarrow5396
@kevinbarrow5396 Месяц назад
@BirdDogg sir today men are not men!I am from canton mississippi originally!we moved to New York when I was 11.upon moving to New York everyone was anti anything defense of personal protection!they were prone to browbeating anyone with any degree of a competitive spirit!make no mistake whoever is sculpting this country today,are responsible for the submissive nature through intellectual degradation!in the north,all you have to do is show most people a weapon and they flinch!they can't identify a woman and all the while call themselves progressive!sounds like Rome to me!
@wendellgamstead4933
@wendellgamstead4933 Месяц назад
Undeniably..by you. That says much more about you than it does about the great man, Forrest. Forrest doesn't need your approval and neither do I.
@kevinbarrow5396
@kevinbarrow5396 Месяц назад
@@mtnman3MTA3 can you imagine being judged by someone of today's stature!people today have no spine!people today brow beat others for being competitive!we keep claiming that we are evolved!not that I see!
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