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Watch Beat Rates compared - 3600, 18000, 21600, 28800, 36000 & 57600 BPH 

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A video of different beat rates compared, shown in both full speed and slow motion. A special thanks to - G azzla
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@adulttoks
@adulttoks Год назад
This is incredibly poetic. In some way you expect the smoother (higher beat) watches to 'get there quicker', but in reality they all take the same time to get there. For a race (no pun intended) so focused these days on achievement and success -at speed-, there's a lesson here. We all get there! Even if it's not as smoothly as the next person.
@WatchGeek
@WatchGeek Год назад
That was pretty deep, well done 👍👍
@leonardgaming
@leonardgaming Год назад
There are a lot of quartz movements with higher beat rates. My favorite is currently the bulova lunar pilot
@IaMaPh1991
@IaMaPh1991 5 лет назад
Honestly, if more quartz watches implemented the smooth sweep second-hand, I would happily buy them without question, despite my preference for automatics.
@WatchGeek
@WatchGeek 5 лет назад
Haha so true 😃
@MegaZidzid
@MegaZidzid 4 года назад
a week ago, I've seen Casio analog quartz watch with sweeping second hand
@Dave062YT
@Dave062YT 4 года назад
I bought a Galaxy watch and have limitless dials to choose from [Sinn 104 my fave ]and each one is as accurate as you can get with a beautiful sweeping seconds hand ,
@MegaZidzid
@MegaZidzid 4 года назад
@@Dave062YT too bad its battery won't hold more than few days, and it doesn't do ticking
@Dave062YT
@Dave062YT 4 года назад
@@MegaZidzid Not a problem at all to charge it for an hr every 3 days and u can get them to tick if you really want that .I'm a long time watch collector and since bought this 6 months ago really havent wanted anything else
@gioro98
@gioro98 6 лет назад
0:30 1 beat per second 01:03 5 beats per second 02:03 6 beats per second 03:03 8 beats per second 04:03 10 beats per second 05:03 16 beats per second 07:00 all watches compared on screen
@freedomblazesproductions7485
@freedomblazesproductions7485 6 лет назад
Should just be like this
@ALSea24
@ALSea24 6 лет назад
Price tag: Moneyyy to MONEEY to Take my kidney (Ain't got no money but need the watch )
@hiyukelavie2396
@hiyukelavie2396 4 года назад
The hero that we needed
@johandevries879
@johandevries879 4 года назад
Fe many Russian watches have 19.800 bph...which is 5.5 beats per second.
@robertlozyniak3661
@robertlozyniak3661 4 года назад
Let's face it: the only reason they use beats per hour rather than per second is to sound fancier.
@de_anubis
@de_anubis 4 года назад
Never was a fan of Quartz watches just because of their 3600 movements. Didn’t know that there are ones out there with higher frequencies. Thanks for that video! I just learned a lot from you! :)
@muffemod
@muffemod 6 лет назад
I love that you mentioned benefit of longer service interval. Good job.
@WatchGeek
@WatchGeek 6 лет назад
+muffemod thanks 😊
@MrMadvillan
@MrMadvillan 2 года назад
Just to think, pre quarts, "dead seconds" or 3600bph was considered one of the most difficult beat rates in nautical timekeeping.
@Mr_Santo5
@Mr_Santo5 3 года назад
Appreciate how you timed the seconds hand with all the watches at the end to be in the same location on the dial. I watch reviews where they always compare two watches or more and each watch is timed differently. Great job!
@spookyspoots
@spookyspoots 7 лет назад
I turned this on to kill some time but it turned out to be really interesting! Nice video.
@WatchGeek
@WatchGeek 7 лет назад
+spookyspoots thanks :)
@ryanburbridge
@ryanburbridge 7 лет назад
Spring drive!!!!
@ChristianKrean
@ChristianKrean 6 лет назад
Aunchient Pistol it’s more a machenical than a Quartz because iT has a self-winding rotor......don’t see that on your avarage Quartz piece -_-
@Nikioko
@Nikioko 6 лет назад
No it isn't. It is mechanical with a built-in timing machine that - in fact - is quartz. But it doesn't change the fact that the movement itself is mechanical.
@stevenc7877
@stevenc7877 6 лет назад
Also magnetic
@Nikioko
@Nikioko 6 лет назад
Steven: So are the brakes of a streetcar. But that doesn't make it a maglev train, does it?
@wooferjr169
@wooferjr169 6 лет назад
In other words, spring drive is mechanical movement, quartz is there for the mechanical movement to check with the quartz to see if it is keeping accurate time.
@HennerZeller
@HennerZeller 6 лет назад
And for really high BPH, a Bulova Accutron is the pinnacle: 1296000 BPH, 360/second - directly driven by a tuning fork.
@BusyBadger
@BusyBadger 5 лет назад
Ah, if only I had one.❤️ I'm a longtime Bulova fan, but I've never owned an actual tuning fork driven model.
@BeardyBaldyBob
@BeardyBaldyBob 5 лет назад
Ahh, you seem to have forgotten Mr Hetzel then went to Omega and developed the 720hz Megasonic! :) I absolutely love mine, its silky smooth. Got a few 214 and 218s too. They are tricky but fun to work on.
@lenzielenski3276
@lenzielenski3276 3 года назад
Yes, I love my Omega with the Accutron movement. That perfectly smooth second hand movement is mouth watering.
@nizammohd643
@nizammohd643 6 лет назад
Grand Seiko has the smoothest sweeping movement. A good informative video.
@WatchGeek
@WatchGeek 6 лет назад
+nizam mohd yup, spring drive has no real competition 😊
@issealo7990
@issealo7990 6 лет назад
Grand Seiko's is the actual meaning of smooth sweeping. And it is deadly accurate. I have had the luck to handle GS and I can say it is a pleasure to watch (no pun), to look at and to handle. Exceptional quality, for half the price of a Rolex. Owning a GS should be a human right.
@WatchGeek
@WatchGeek 6 лет назад
+Isse Al O haha I would like that
@TheBimmerfan
@TheBimmerfan 6 лет назад
Watch Geek Omega's Co-axial escapement has no real competition.
@1701spacecadet
@1701spacecadet 6 лет назад
Bulova's UHF is just as smooth.
@WatchesAndCars
@WatchesAndCars 6 лет назад
Very educational video. Great job!
@WatchGeek
@WatchGeek 6 лет назад
+GreatAffordableWatches thanks 😊
@SilencedMi5
@SilencedMi5 4 года назад
Hey man, I've been enjoying your videos and comments around WatchTube for some time. I really appreciated the extra effort you took to "pass the baton" between the second hands during the shot after shot comparison of these watches beat rates. You even sync'd the chrono to the face seconds on the Lunar Pilot! Great stuff, keep it up :)
@WatchGeek
@WatchGeek 4 года назад
Haha thanks 😁👍
@alexandredeoliveirapenna198
@alexandredeoliveirapenna198 4 года назад
Now I'm seeing some of you older videos. This one is incredible. And Precisionist movement is marvelous. Thanks a lot
@hoppysport2872
@hoppysport2872 5 лет назад
Wow, just beautifully produced and written. I have the Bulova Moon Watch and always run the chrono, even though I know that it will tax the battery. However it's so much fun to look at. So smooth and accurate.
@mbyard356
@mbyard356 5 лет назад
Very interesting to see those side by side. I also have an old Timex that runs at 4 BPS / 14,400 BPH.
@nickkonig5278
@nickkonig5278 7 лет назад
All the Accutrons came with tuning fork technology that gave them a continuous sweep, accurate to within + or - 2 seconds per day.
@floydburkett2749
@floydburkett2749 7 лет назад
Nick Konig god i wish they still made those movements
@WatchGeek
@WatchGeek 7 лет назад
+Floyd Burkett I wish that too, they could at least issue a historic line of a few limited edition models with the REAL Accutron movement
@garywillacey9979
@garywillacey9979 6 лет назад
Well explained & very well put together. Thank you for taking the time to do this.
@WatchGeek
@WatchGeek 6 лет назад
Thanks for watching and for the kind words 😊👍
@EagleTrue
@EagleTrue 2 года назад
Thanks for this video ! I can finally see the difference between each movements
@gabegarcia1993gg
@gabegarcia1993gg 6 лет назад
That moment when you look at your watch and the time is synced 😎
@remoskeemoful
@remoskeemoful 5 лет назад
Loved the thumbnails work at the end. Very smooth. Thank you for the info.
@LambentOrt
@LambentOrt 2 года назад
Thanks for the comparison video. As a beginner to the watch world, it's very helpful.
@nadeembhutto5675
@nadeembhutto5675 5 лет назад
Excellent video. It's very nice to understand a low beat nd a hi beat automatic watch. I love watches nd I have a collection, but now I'll keep it in my mind because beat rate tell us the worth nd quality of mechanical watch. Thank you. Very Respect from Pakistan 👍❤️
@nikoligogle3153
@nikoligogle3153 5 лет назад
The last moments are very satisfying to watch! 😃
@technophiliac2282
@technophiliac2282 7 лет назад
Cool video. I think 8bps would be a perfect combination for accuracy and maintainability.
@neuromancerXL
@neuromancerXL 7 лет назад
Some brands/models toward the higher end used 18,000 BPH Hand winding movements still. Like Panerai with the UNITAS 6497 and Chezard caliber 7400
@WatchGeek
@WatchGeek 7 лет назад
+Neuro yup, which why lower beat doesn't mean lower grade of movement 😊
@garethcollocott6310
@garethcollocott6310 3 года назад
Crisis that King Seiko is amazing, absolutely beautiful!
@zenithworld6618
@zenithworld6618 3 года назад
Nice video! Thank you so much. Zoom up on moving hands in each beats are really interesting and important info for me.
@davidcoleman2463
@davidcoleman2463 5 лет назад
Interesting . Thank you . I have a Bulova automatic from 1949 . It looks like it is going like the Sieko . 6 beats per sec . It is 17 joules .
@benjaminbreu
@benjaminbreu 4 года назад
That is some nice editing there. Loved the part where you presented the different speeds one after another and the second hand continued to count from the last position of the previous watch!
@WatchGeek
@WatchGeek 4 года назад
Thanks 😀
@tippykaffu4047
@tippykaffu4047 5 лет назад
Watch Geek:"If you want high beats, you gotta go back to quartz" Zenith Defy Inventor: "Let us introduce ourselves" *goes 18hz*
@cpgautam172
@cpgautam172 4 года назад
I personally like the 1beat per sec, i just like hearing each second when it's very silent.
@farhatbdhj
@farhatbdhj 5 лет назад
"I will shut up for now, thank you for watching. Bye". 06:35
@alsh2010
@alsh2010 7 лет назад
Who the hell gave this a thumbs down? This is a great video. Thanks!
@WatchGeek
@WatchGeek 7 лет назад
+Private Parts Haha thanks :)
@GlawberOliveira
@GlawberOliveira 6 лет назад
Private Parts admit it matE, *you* thumbed down the video
@WatchGeek
@WatchGeek 6 лет назад
Haha
@WatchGeek
@WatchGeek 6 лет назад
Enlighten me about the wrongs in the video
@peterwasshhs
@peterwasshhs 2 года назад
great vid and info - thank you very much 👌
@phillycheesetake
@phillycheesetake 7 лет назад
With modern materials and mechanisms, 18,000vph watches can be almost as accurate as 28,800vph or 36,000vph watches. Many of the world record-competing chronometers have balance frequencies lower than 4Hz. I really like 18,000vph, especially on a dress watch, or on a 30-minute chronograph. Measuring fifths of a second seems much neater than sixths or eighths.
@WatchGeek
@WatchGeek 7 лет назад
+ChasingTruth TakingFlak so true 😊
@johndoe-ln4oi
@johndoe-ln4oi 6 лет назад
Nice video and presentation! Thank you for doing this. The only movement speed that I think you missed is the Omega co-axial at 7 beats per second/25,200 bph, but I cannot see a difference with the naked eye between it and my 8 bps/ 28,800 bph movement pieces. I am sure there's a difference when it is slowed down.
@WatchGeek
@WatchGeek 6 лет назад
+john doe thanks for the kind words. if I had one at hand ought have recorded it, but it would have been hard to put it in balance on screen with the others
@calebknipp4817
@calebknipp4817 9 месяцев назад
I'm one of the rare few who actually prefer the movement of a quartz seconds hand. To me, nothing is better than a high quality quartz ticking perfectly in line with the markers, nailing every one. Something like The Citizen line is perfect.
@wayneturner1336
@wayneturner1336 4 года назад
Bulova 262 khz runs at 16 beats per second from what I have read about the movement and seems to be accurate according to the UHF Bulovas I own. I have several that have yet to go out of synch with atomic time over the past 5 months. I think, in my opinion, that they’re superior to the higher end mechanicals I own and really enjoyable to watch. Of course Bulova does make some really unattractive train wrecks, but they’ve got great history and some real innovation under their belt.
@davidgarland2533
@davidgarland2533 9 месяцев назад
I have a bulova accutron from 1972 tuning fork model unsure if it beats 360 or 180 a second still less than 7 seconds a month, omega made 300hz models and Citizen had a licences agreement with bulova to produce them. Unfortunately quartz killed them
@iAPX432
@iAPX432 4 месяца назад
There are also the Bulova Accutron with electronic tuning fork (300 Hz or 360 Hz), with a real sweeping second hand.
@MegaZidzid
@MegaZidzid 4 года назад
it's funny how quartz oscillates 32768 times each second, yet they traditionally limit that feature to annoying 1 bps.
@Alias_Anybody
@Alias_Anybody 4 года назад
Because nobody actually *needs* more than one tick per second, and if they do, they buy a stopwatch.
@MegaZidzid
@MegaZidzid 4 года назад
@@Alias_Anybody are you aware of your low IQ?
@ceferistul05
@ceferistul05 3 года назад
i looked into it and apparently it has to do with battery life. they say the smoother the motion the greater the battery consumption
@brianboru636
@brianboru636 Год назад
When you're sat there watching that second hand revolve around, just remember, thats your life ticking away.
@rajgill7576
@rajgill7576 4 года назад
Beats per second was confusing for me, I counted 3 "ticks" a second when it claimed 5 beats per second. The beats count starting and stopping of the hand as separate beats. Start-stop-start-stop-start per each second
@robertwilliams2850
@robertwilliams2850 7 лет назад
A piece of advice on old Accutron calibers. The 214 Spaceview is very voltage sensitive. It was designed for a 1.3 volt mercury battery which is no longer made. The 1.5 volt silver based battery makes them run fast. Esslinger, and no doubt others, sell a 1.5 v battery with a resistor on it that lowers the voltage to 1.3v. I'm sure it works but not in my Spaceview which needs a good servicing. Due to a change in the way the caliber 218 handles shock, mine runs well on a 1.5 volt battery. It is not as cool as the Spaceview but runs very well. Just some thoughts on the subject.
@WatchGeek
@WatchGeek 7 лет назад
+Robert Williams oh wow thanks for the info, I appreciate it! I would like to get an Accutron in the future, not necessarily a Spaceview, although I find it to be the coolest looking 😛 as that technology is incredible and it's a shame Bulova doesn't make a historic line with them
@emisor73
@emisor73 6 лет назад
Beautiful video, It's very cool to see something like this, thanks.
@WatchGeek
@WatchGeek 6 лет назад
Thanks for watching
@vincenthugoscheererlazo3675
@vincenthugoscheererlazo3675 5 лет назад
I believe the Bulova on the video is a quartz watch (Bulova Moon watch), which means that regardless of the higher beat rate, it will probably need less servicing than other mechanical watches, probably even less than lower beat mechanical watches (I'm going on a limb here). Quartz are battery powered, which means that they have less moving parts (no balance spring or wheel) which means less maintenance needed. However, the rule mentioned in the video still remains true if we're talking solely about mechanical watches.
@charliegone1652
@charliegone1652 6 лет назад
That Bulova Accutron II movement is so smooth...love it.
@WatchGeek
@WatchGeek 6 лет назад
+Charliegone yup it's really a thing of beauty
@iggysfriend4431
@iggysfriend4431 6 лет назад
Excellent video, a nice comparison. It still would have been nice to see a spring drive.
@blkbird
@blkbird 5 лет назад
That final shot is gorgeous.
@thomashardison1140
@thomashardison1140 7 лет назад
Very cool, thanks taking the time to make this.
@WatchGeek
@WatchGeek 7 лет назад
+Thomas Hardison thank you and thanks for watching :)
@jackl.4738
@jackl.4738 4 года назад
GS Spring Drive
@JRoJamz
@JRoJamz 6 лет назад
What a great video. I am in love with mechanical watches in general, but also have an affection for Bulova, dunno why. So I kinda want a CURV.
@WatchGeek
@WatchGeek 6 лет назад
+Jim Rodriguez Bulova is very cool so no reason to question the affection 👍
@mikls168
@mikls168 6 лет назад
Hello guys, This video has a major mistake, using beat rates for second hand movement and for mechanical balance wheel or quartz crystal beat rate at the same time and mix it regularly discussing one watch and an other. What is sure, that for mechanical watches the balance wheel beat rate has a direct relation to the second hand beat rate. But that is not true for quartz watches, because the ordenary quartz watch has a 32.768 beat rates for the quatz crystal. This rate is diveded down to one per sec, which moves the second hand. The main reason of this is battery energy saving. In case of Bulova high frequency quartz technology, they have choosen the second way of improve accuracy ( the first way is thermo compensation) namely inceasing the quartz crystal frequency ( beat rate) eight times compere to regular quartz watch. By this they give the signal rate forward to the second hand, that the reason, that the second hand of this wacht moves eight times per second, what is equal with the traditional 28.800 beat rates of a mechanical balance wheel watch. So, the movement of this Bulova's second hand is as smooth as a mechanical watch. The beat rates of the driving part of the watch ( balance wheel or quartz crystal) is relates to the accuracy of the watch, but the final accuracy depend on many other factors too. Anyhow, the eight times high frequency of the Bulova's precisionist watches still not the highest frequency of the industry, many many decades ago Omega produced the so called Marine Chronometer watch with 2,4Mz frequency what is about 75 times higher beat rate for the quartz crystal as the normal one. Enjoy your watch, and all the best to you. Miklós
@WatchGeek
@WatchGeek 6 лет назад
+mikls168 thanks for such an informative comment, I was using the Bulova 8 beats per second seconds move to illustrate how a mechanical watch with 28.800 bph moves since I didn't have a mechanical watch. The accuracy increase I mention was related to mechanical ones
@davidmccullough5631
@davidmccullough5631 6 лет назад
But I'm not too concerned about the accuracy of my watches. I wear them for style and the convenience of being to look down at my wrist to see the time. I like a smooth second hand, others might like the opposite. In today's day and age it's easy to sync a clock to an accurate time source, so absolute accuracy is not as important as it once was. Definitely enjoyed the video.
@pwally2714
@pwally2714 4 года назад
A year after this video, and a cool $40,000 USD Breguet Classique Chronométrie 7727 The 7727 is remarkable for a number of reasons, not least because it is equipped with a 10Hz (72,000 bph) engine - twice as fast as a ‘typical’ 5Hz high-beat movement. This means it offers a 1/20th of a second accuracy. To reduce the wear and tear sustained by such a high-speed system, Breguet created a lubricant-free mechanism using silicon parts. Breguet also reworked the architecture of the balance, employing two endstones with powerful micro-magnets to keep the balance staff centred and self-adjusting.
@AvgJoeWatchReviews
@AvgJoeWatchReviews Год назад
Great video. Nicely done.
@ManSkirtBrew
@ManSkirtBrew 4 года назад
Wonderful video. I'm showing my age because all the beat rates made me think of modem baud rates.
@حيدرالراشد-ه4ث
@حيدرالراشد-ه4ث 4 года назад
Amazing. Thanks for doing this!
@ronaldfaber9443
@ronaldfaber9443 2 года назад
Kind of a Quartz geek here. Just unboxed my Bulova Precisionist 98B267 which is not so over the top lookswise. Could watch it run for hours.
@Mk-uh4jo
@Mk-uh4jo 5 лет назад
Super interesting and informative video! Thank you very much! You presented the information very well!
@MrTchou
@MrTchou 3 года назад
Those beat rate numbers remind me of the old modems bit rates in the beginning of the home internet access.
@badkid73
@badkid73 7 лет назад
The other option for a smooth sweeping hand is the Seiko Spring Drive. :) Thanks for mentioning it.
@WatchGeek
@WatchGeek 7 лет назад
+badkid73 yup it's the smoothest, however utmost unfortunately out of my reach currently
@ahxiao8
@ahxiao8 6 лет назад
Spring drive ? Think you can add another comparison with the zenith defy lab!
@WatchGeek
@WatchGeek 6 лет назад
+ahxiao8 the Zenith is stil only a prototype so a chance of me getting one for a video is zero to none 😃 If with some incredible luck I ever get my hands on one, I would definitely want to do a slow motion macro shot of it's action 😊
@eddieguyvh4765
@eddieguyvh4765 6 лет назад
And the older bulova accutron, I believe
@graemeyetts3465
@graemeyetts3465 2 года назад
An excellent and Informative piece.
@heisenberg470
@heisenberg470 9 месяцев назад
Nice video mate, I subscribed 👍
@chambers792
@chambers792 3 года назад
Bravo! This video is awesome! 🔥
@donaldasayers
@donaldasayers 6 лет назад
There are cheap quartz clock movements that have true, stepless sweep seconds, essentially they are stepper motors with a flywheel. It should be possible to do the same with a quartz watch. There was also a prototype Hamilton movement with the Clifford magnetic escapement, almost a tuning fork which had a smooth sweep second hand. They only built two, of which only one is known to exist.
@donaldasayers
@donaldasayers Год назад
A Hamilton watch with a Clifford escapement came up for auction in the UK only recently, which leads me to suspect that there may be more than one floating about. Funny to watch a RU-vid video that you had forgotten, only to read a comment that I had written 5 years ago.
@symbolic69
@symbolic69 2 года назад
Great presentation!
@danieldelorme4021
@danieldelorme4021 5 лет назад
Fantastic video!! Thank you for sharing!
@TylerBrownofNewEngland
@TylerBrownofNewEngland 7 лет назад
Fantastic. Was looking for precisely something like this.
@WatchGeek
@WatchGeek 7 лет назад
Tyler Brown I'm glad you liked it :)
@dynomitedp
@dynomitedp 2 года назад
Great video, thank you!
@SpeedHunter_9
@SpeedHunter_9 4 года назад
Speaking of which, what's that piano melody name at the end of the video? It's beautiful.
@AvroBellow
@AvroBellow 2 года назад
Really? Of all things, an Omega Planet Ocean Homage by BULOVA?! That's both amazing and ridiculous. LOL Videos like this are special and should be cherished. :D EDIT: I think you made a typo for the Bulova's frequency in khz because everywhere I look says 262khz, not 242khz. In fact, I can't find 242khz at all. What model number is that Bulova anyway?
@fin_jan
@fin_jan 6 лет назад
Super summary! I would love to see the spring drive in slo-mo.
@WatchGeek
@WatchGeek 6 лет назад
+Fin Jan thanks and so would I... maybe one day 😊
@flyingphotography5770
@flyingphotography5770 7 лет назад
Thank you! The slow-motion clips were interesting.
@WatchGeek
@WatchGeek 7 лет назад
+The Dickies I'm glad you liked it, and thanks for watching
@CarlosAguila
@CarlosAguila Год назад
The Bulova Lunar Pilot and the Bulova Precisionist both run on the 262.144 Khz. You have the preciosionist listed as a lower KhZ movmenet which would mean less beats.
@airmax9085
@airmax9085 5 лет назад
Auu brate kakav video.. Svaka cast uzivao sam 7 minuta, steta sto nisi imao i grand seiko.. Cudi mi samo da je 6000 dolara, a kakav mehanizam ima.
@WatchGeek
@WatchGeek 5 лет назад
Hvala 😁
@suhailsirnaik4063
@suhailsirnaik4063 6 лет назад
This is the video I was looking out for but couldn’t find it until now! Thanks very much! Much appreciated!
@WatchGeek
@WatchGeek 6 лет назад
Glad you liked it 😊
@karthikrudrashiva8645
@karthikrudrashiva8645 5 лет назад
Seiko Is the King of all !!! with no disrespect to swiss brands...
@sleeplessengineer1450
@sleeplessengineer1450 3 года назад
The Frederique Constant Slimline Monolithic is mechanical silicon oscillator that's super high beat just like the Zenith defy lab/Zenith inventor, but its actually affordable.
@JKT-ul6kd
@JKT-ul6kd 7 лет назад
Nice comparison! In the 1970s tuning fork movements produced by Bulova were not only very accurate, but also had nice sweeping action. Also, back in the 1990s Seiko produced a quartz movement (5s21) with a sweeping seconds hand. The sweeping movement had nothing to do with accuracy, but was rather purely esthetic.
@WatchGeek
@WatchGeek 7 лет назад
+JKT1971 thanks, and great info on a sweeping Seiko, I thought Spring Drive was their only sweep hand quartz
@TealJosh
@TealJosh 6 лет назад
And I should also mention that spring drive is not quartz. It's fully mechanical movement, but instead of oselating wheel there's a 'electric break' and the breaking power is syncronized with a quartz crystal to give ultimate accurasy. So in the end of the day, spring drive is a mechanical watch, with a twist ;)
@WatchGeek
@WatchGeek 6 лет назад
+GTpcGaming well the power generation and transfer is all mechanical, but the regulation is done with a quartz crystal making it essentially a quartz movement, but one hell of a quartz movement 😛
@douro20
@douro20 5 лет назад
There is one between 36000 and 57600...the Seiko 8L88/ND58 and the Citizen Cosmotron have a beat rate of 43200 bph. Both are mechanical, with the Cosmotron being a hybrid movement using a transistorized circuit to provide an impulse to the balance wheel.
@WatchGeek
@WatchGeek 5 лет назад
Thanks for the info, never knew those existed 😊👍
@wirdy1
@wirdy1 2 года назад
The Citizen is also known as the IC-12 (for 12 beats per sec).
@douro20
@douro20 2 года назад
@@wirdy1 I should had mentioned the calibre number, which I wasn't sure of at the time, which was 5800.
@sadee1245
@sadee1245 2 года назад
Thanks, good information, right to the point
@jeffhowland867
@jeffhowland867 4 года назад
Those sword hands look very nice on the snk.
@neuromancerXL
@neuromancerXL 7 лет назад
Very nice split screen showing them all in the end...ty
@WatchGeek
@WatchGeek 7 лет назад
+Neuro thanks 😊
@brunoshow124
@brunoshow124 2 года назад
Comparing a Bulova Accutron or any other tuning fork watch could have been interesting too, although they also have a perfectly smooth second hand that you won't see any individual steps with.
@tophorable
@tophorable Год назад
I think Bulova Accutron and Bulova Precisionist have similar movements with smoothly sweeping seconds hand. The latter was covered in the video.
@brunoshow124
@brunoshow124 Год назад
@@tophorable The Accutron tuning fork movements don't have perceivable steps under motion cameras, they are still very smooth. I tried it one time just to see, I might upload the video if I can find it, I believe I saved it.
@tophorable
@tophorable Год назад
@@brunoshow124 To be precise, I have Bulova Accutron II. It seem very close to the Precisionist series. However, I don't own the latter one or any watch from the first Accutron series.
@brunoshow124
@brunoshow124 Год назад
​@@tophorable Yea the Accutron 2 uses the precisionist movement. The original Accutrons had the tuning fork movements.
@ZommBleed
@ZommBleed 6 лет назад
I'm glad someone finally did a video on this. Too bad you didn't have the last one mentioned to top of the list.
@WatchGeek
@WatchGeek 6 лет назад
+ZommBleed thanks for the kind words, maybe one day 😜
@andydeciccio
@andydeciccio 4 года назад
The first watch, Casio Edifice is a classic quartz, which means it beats at 32,768Hz or 32,768 cycles/second. One cycle is 2 beats. The second hand motion has nothing to do with the time keeping ability. Every quartz watch has a one second sweep. Unless they they purposely give the second hand a smooth sweep. The Bulova at 262kHz means 262,000 cycles/second, so he's wrong again. So, a watch that is 21,600bph is 3Hz. 28,800bph is 4Hz. Just take the BPH and divide by 7,200 to get the frequency measured in Hz. 28,800bph divided by 60 minutes/hour divided by 60 seconds/minute divided by 2 beats/second.
@JayzBeerz
@JayzBeerz 6 лет назад
great video dude thank you
@WatchGeek
@WatchGeek 6 лет назад
Thanks man 😊👍
@fourthsyfourthington9683
@fourthsyfourthington9683 6 лет назад
been looking for a video showing this
@evvignes
@evvignes 5 лет назад
My Omega Planet Ocean with the 8500 Coaxial movement beats at 25,200bph. Looks very similar to 28,800bph and apparently extends the service intervals.
@neutronalchemist3241
@neutronalchemist3241 4 года назад
The original Bulova Accutron, not quartz but tuning fork, oscillates at a rate of 360Hz, equivalent to a mechanical rate of 1.296.000 bph.
@wirdy1
@wirdy1 2 года назад
The Accutron 2210 oscillates at 440hz, 1,584,000 bph. I had one, when rested on a table it was quite an annoying sound & it got sold on.
@hithabob
@hithabob 6 лет назад
Excellent video. Thanks.
@WatchGeek
@WatchGeek 6 лет назад
I'm glad you liked it 😊 I'll be making a giveaway of a GShock watch when I reach 10.000 subs, which should be in about 2-3 weeks so make sure to subscribe and follow the videos to see how to participate 👍
@robbabcock_
@robbabcock_ 4 года назад
Fascinating video! Thanks!
@emailant
@emailant 4 года назад
Awesome video! Loved everything about it. Even the last bit of watching the sweeps. :) Anyway, can you tell me the exact model name for your Bulova Moon Watch in this video?
@WatchGeek
@WatchGeek 4 года назад
96B251
@emailant
@emailant 4 года назад
Watch Geek Oh is yours a custom build? I love the whole combination!
@zafarrehman1472
@zafarrehman1472 4 года назад
great sir. thanks for the video.
@JPTRAN
@JPTRAN 2 года назад
Hello, the Miyota 6S21 chronograph movement has a central chronograph second hand 4 bps
@3nJo1
@3nJo1 5 лет назад
"Beautifully done."
@theor.6856
@theor.6856 4 года назад
wow i'm absolutely not into watches, but recently i got interest into them and im thinking about buying one, and that's how i got here. I learn really really interesting things in this video thanks that's really cool, but i want to know, what's the price range for the higher bph watches ? and do there is completely smooth watches ?
@mrbriceno3949
@mrbriceno3949 5 лет назад
Theyre all pretty cool! I got the seiko 5!
@davidcoleman2463
@davidcoleman2463 5 лет назад
I have a Sieko 5 and like it but I miss hand winding . All my other automatics have that .
@RedcoatsReturn
@RedcoatsReturn 6 лет назад
Very educational! The pros and cons of beat speed were interesting! Better to beat slow than not to beat at all! The root of the best beat is the heartbeat of the jungle beat. Never in the history of watches has there been a braver, bolder, better beating beat to beat that!😉
@rodsalvador3608
@rodsalvador3608 4 года назад
Wow. I think a Grand Seiko Spring Drive might be my grail. In the meantime, I'd love to add a Lord Marvel or King Seiko Hi Beat to the collection.
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