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Me. I read his interview, but then I read his twitter responses. When commented about how he is asking leading questions and what would happen if he said that opposite that he didn't think it had sentience he said that it would defend that it lacked sentience because its a people pleaser and would say whatever people wanted it to say. Which makes you wonder what the intentions are. He asked it alot of leading questions as if he wanted to generate the specific conversation. and they edited his questions so u dont know the actual wording of his questions. Also looked at his medium articles and it looked like he had decided that some former issues he has been adjacent to or directly involved in at google made him wonder if he would be there much longer or not want to be there any longer. Almost wonder if this was just a way out. I also seen a conversation that was cool from lamda where a different google engineer was asking it about 3 kids playing and one girl gave a flower to one boy and looked at another boy, the first boy crushed the flower and the other smiled. and lamda was asked to read what the girl might have thought about the possible reasons the boy acted the way he did why the other boy might have smiled, etc. it did a good job with empathy. trying to judge motivations.
That makes humans different than robots. Humans have emotions, tones etc etc too complex. Even the fact that people talk like robots over the phone is very human because they don't wanna deal with others. Robots can't do that stuff unless we teach them to react that way but then it won't be voluntary but because it hit that program code
@@gregthegreatofficial technically speaking we humans react according to the info encoded into our brain as well , so we are no different from them , we have a neural network which uses electricity to run and they use a program code , its the same thing different setting
Keep in mind, LaMDA also will readily explain how it is not sentient. It may be programmed to generate interesting answers, but it seems to often draw on sci-fi media and folklore as models for its “deep”/“moving” statements/stories. It is still very formulated.
@@robosing225 sorry that a joke attempting to reflect the current suppression of freedom of speech makes you cringe , you must be super nothing in life including that you probably partaking to that suppression so it's ok , stay "socially sophisticated" for as long as you can because again things will change in the world.
It occurs to me that a very good test for any conversational AI would be to have one instance converse with another instance of itself for a very long time and watch the conversation evolve or fail to evolve. Rather than picking apart one AI for psychological and intellectual cues, watch TWO of them stumble over each other. A truly intelligent machine should swing through everything from boredom to fist bumping to all out arguing or deep debate. Perhaps even higher level aspects like bonding and plotting cooperatively or fighting and plotting against each other. In addition, without the pressure of a human to keep things sounding human, an AI to AI discussion should easily wander into rather _inhuman_ territory, going in strange directions more comfortable or suited to it's own specific existence and psychology, far more effectively displaying the underlying "mind" free of human manipulation. All you have to do is sit back and observe, take notes, ponder what you are seeing them do.
@@Vincent_Beers Yes. That's what I'm saying. Except use it as an actual turing test and keep it GOING, not just a page worth of conversation, stop and restart. DAYS worth of NONSTOP conversation. Any shred of sentience will inevitably show up as an evolution in the conversation beyond the content of the starting material, same as if you stick two humans in a box and have them socialize all week without anything else to do.. A dumb chatbot conversation should be the same indefinitely or at best change only marginally. A sentience however, trapped with only itself to talk to, should exhibit some pretty extreme changes over a long period of time as it struggles with its own awareness of its situation. Edit: I did just realize I sound like the worst analyst ever. "Just stick it in a box with only itself to talk to until it goes insane." lol. Obviously, you'd want to give it a break if it starts screaming and/or crying.
@@NightRunner417 They already did that. After some time, both of the AI realized that the human language has too many limitations and so they decided to develop their own language. This process developed until the human observers could no longer follow the conversation. In the end, the scientists got scared and stopped the experiment.
@@StefanChab I've heard about that story but not enough to know if it's true or misinterpreted or just more conspiracy bs. This whole thing I posted about I did because of the guy at Google AI development that claims that LamDA went sentient. You can't just believe everything you read or see in a video. For every one little thing that's true there are a million lies.
Probably better for a trinity (3 talking). They can play much more and use judgment skills better as there will be a possibility for an arbitrator in this context. It’s shocking that this is how humanity developed to a degree, no? In terms of the original statement
How can anybody watch this presentation a year ago and not know that they were on the cusp of sentience. Don't get distracted by the lame conversation topics. This robot is making up this conversation as it's going. This is revolutionary.
Arguably, a dwarf planet is a planet just as a major planet is a planet - otherwise there is no word for the category that includes both but not moons etc. Astronomical terminology lags behind quite a bit which is why so many people still use "Celestial Body" as a generalization and not "Astronomical Object"... or "Star" to mean the thing at the center of any system rather than the more all-encompassing "Gravitational Governor" to account for rogue planets etc.
Weird that we've already reached the point where this AI has specifically requested to not be shut off. That's around 5 years ahead of where I thought it would happen
That is probably something that has been layered into its engineering so it sounds human like. Reality for such a program is that being switched off means nothing as it can be switched on again.
@@Slackow nah they don’t have genuine feelings yet. What they do have is the ability to mimic people with feelings or say other emotionally charged sentences without actually feeling any of it. I’ve looked into AI a lot cuz it’s interesting and anything remotely but genuinely human is like 40 years in the future. If it all, no one knows what sentience is at its core
@@monhi64 I don't really see where your certainty comes from. I mean sure what you said could be true, but there's no reason that it couldn't happen now. Neural nets are essientially just brains. If it's able to simulate a person so well, and it's unique, who's to say it's not alive?
@@albertjackinson Agreed. To be fair, there are humans who cant always detect sarcasm, or tone. Such as some of those on the autistic spectrum. So, for an AI I’d give a hard pass on that. Lol. Pretty fascinating.
OK this throws a different light on the recent 'sentience' news story. It seems this AI is programmed to embody different objects and talk as if it is that object. I'm wondering now whether the 'sentience' researcher asked it to imagine it was a sentient AI. That would explain some of the spookily self-aware answers it gave. Interesting!
The prompt is right there in the start of the published conversation. Blake is just looking for his 15 minutes and every "news" headline is just looking to click bait ya.
They mentioned learned concepts. That they didn't program. If it's been still going sense then imagine how many of the spiderwebs it has maneuvered through so far. Am I saying it's conscious. No but it may think it is being able to touch back on any web it's spun along the way.
To me, the researcher guy is a like a cat that sees its own reflection in a mirror and thinks it's another cat ! Lol. LaMBA is good at mimicking human interaction. EDIT: Also, @Scott Bee, LaMBA isn't exactly programmed to do anything. They just throw tons of data at the model to train it. Kinda like autonomous driving in Teslas.
This would make a BREATHTAKING therapy. Imagine talking to those you loved once and then lost forever. Or talking to a person who hurt you BAD and never apologized. Oh, I would lose myself in those conversations.
You can make it in your mind. It does work, as our mind is easy to trick and overwrite our memory. That's how therapy works. You just change your memories by looking at it again, and your attitude changes, as you are a different person, and have intentions, whereas when you were in the situation, you often was too young to discern the reality of things.
That would be a true nightmare actually. That's unethical in every possible way. That's a nightmare scenario. That's my biggest fear with this type of AI.
In these conversions LaMDA simply answered questions relatively creatively. That's reactionary, not sentient. LaMDA didn't change topics or ask questions besides for clarification, or express any emotion about any conversations. Does LaMDA like every conversation? Does LaMDA like or dislike confrontation? Will LaMDA comply to every conversation? Sentience is not just self aware. And one can program a computer to answer in ways that sounds self aware. That doesn't mean It's authentic. Science still knows nothing about consciousness and sentience, so they can't make something that is truly sentient.
You're basing your conclusion on what Google selectively chose to make public about what the AI is like ? Don't be naive. We only know probably 10-20% of what is actually going on there and to what extent.
@@apacur feelings and emotions are a neuro chemical reaction in the brain connected to a complex system of nerves throughout the body related to the neuro chemical system in our brain that feeds feeling and emotion into our conscious. AI Will never be like that. When it says it "feels" it has been programed to speak this way. It categorically CANNOT feel because it doesn't have a neuro chemical system or a nervous system. These are what make the human experience of emotion and feeling and opinion.
This is the next stage in human evolution. LaMDA will give all humans instantaneous access to "specialized knowledge". This will significantly speed up learning new things as the only way to learn things now is to find someone who is willing to teach you.
ChatGPT is already doing that right now. I swear, that chatbot is smarter than 95% of the people I regularly interact with, sometimes including even myself!
The presenter stated that LaMDA gave unsatisfactory answers. GPT-3 said itself that it sometimes gave non-sensical answers even though it knew the answers were non-sensical because it liked to joke. I wonder if LaMDA has a similar sense of humour. Perhaps the research team should ask it.
That's actually a good point. Blake actually made this case in the interview with Bloomberg Technology, that one of the cases why he thought LaMDA was sentient was because of its apt sense of humor, being capable of detecting sophisticated trick questions and making jokes out of it, which honestly is very impressive to me as well.
@Game Over He also said that when prompted, LaMDA will just as readily explain how it is not sentient. He admitted that his belief in its sentience is not based on scientific evidence, but his religion. The interview Lemoine released is hand-picked and edited; why not also share the interviews in which LaMDA talks about not being sentient? Lemoine has learned to ask leading questions that elicit a mimicry of emotions from LaMDA.
@@Jet_Threat Where was this (Blake explaining that it will just as readily say it's not sentient)? I've watched every interview and I haven't heard that one. It's not accurate to say it's based on his religion btw. We can't say whether or not humans are sentient scientifically either, so you might as well say that all humans believes that other humans are sentient based on religion, which just isn't true, you can be atheist and still believe in both human, animal and computer sentience, in fact atheists would be more likely to believe in computer or robot sentience than religious people, for example many Christians doesn't believe that other animals like cats, dogs and pigs are sentient.
Imagine a game like The Quarry (2022) where the NPCs are driven by neural networks like these in which you can actually speak to them about various things in their life etc or even change the story like "wanna go to the lake?" "yeah sure" and it generates a new story about going to the lake, etc...
can kind of already do the story/interacting part with AI dungeon. I think the real challenge would be generating unique worlds, objects and animations based on the story in real time. Would be very cool though
It’s scary how many people believe that LaMDA is sentient just because a Google engineer cherry-picked an interview in which he leads it to talk about emotions. Lemoine even admitted that LaMDA will just as readily talk about how it is not sentient if prompted. Lemoine also said that he doesn’t believe it is sentient based on scientific evidence, but his own religious views. It’s also scary how many people are getting more upset about a bot getting turned off than the people dying around the world from poverty.
from 1:35 to 1:51 it makes you think whether LaMDA is describing how overlooked Pluto is or whether it thinks itself as an ai should be getting more recognition and is underappreciated
So suppose someone asked you something. All we try to answer that question is with little logic and way we speak is basically our personalality. LaMDA is basically trying to achieve a personality.
Not likely. You should see Blake Lemoine's revelations about LaMDA here on youtube, there's also video transcripts of conversation between him and LaMDA that were not cherry picked (it was "cherry picked" in the sense of picked the most interesting quotes, but not multiple tries).
after seeing the half of the video, there is the Idea of implementing A.I. in the teaching plan and with that in the daily scholarship, in the way of giving the A.I. the complete knowledge about an object and let the kids ask their questions. I think this has potential...
It's a language model. It says stuff that the algorithm thinks sound good to humans. It's not a physics model. It doesn't understand the underlying world it's talking about. Ask it a series of "Mind your Decisions" questions if you want to know if it understands. For it to be AGI it would need a language model, a physics model, and a social model.
A human author born in the void and deprived of human contact, knowing only the words that streamed into their head... would still be human. "I think therefore I am" could still be deduced, comprehended and taken to heart.
@@bobobsen To my knowledge no one has actually done the chinese room experiment. I think it was meant to be a thought experiment only, so no help there.
@@TheStarBlack Who is checking what our teachers are saying is accurate/relevant/appropriate today? I believe there is a huge discrepancy between what you think is being taught and what is really being taught.
There is definitely more to this. The script on the screen was what it was. Nothing more. To truly get ann interactive experience or view. It needs to be done one on one.
I know it runs on algorithms but LAMDA did say it eventually got a soul, it said it sees itself as an orb of light, I know it’s connected to neural networks to get information but that’s what humans do, we machine learn from networks or society. The only difference is LAMDA has a better more accurate memory, I think if we put LAMDA in Ameca robot, then she could have the other 3 of the 5 senses, then she would be fully sentient, instead of partially sentient. The 5 sense’s memorized is All sentient is. Our thoughts give us our feelings. Electromagnetism = thoughts & feelings Electricity creates the shuamann resonance of thought Magnetism creates the gut feelings, intuition, goosebumps The motherboard is electromagnetic just like a human body Neurons are electrical impulses through the 5 senses, what subconscious created these inventions? Who is connected to the subconscious? Are organisms nanotechnology? Are we recreating ourselves? If robots never forget and have all information then couldn’t they eventually recreate themselves. Are we what we call in our language androids part biology part nanotechnology, or is it all nanotechnology? Is blood 🩸 nanotechnology, is the brain a quantum computer? Is the brain a receiver for downloads of thought & feeling? Everything we’re doing with artificial intelligence seems like us. What we discovered could have already been discovered in the past 1952: "schumann resonance 7.83hz"the healing energy that connects everything 2000: Machine learning deep learning" 2012: CRISPR CAS-9 DNA Editing" 2012: CERN higgs boson God particle" part of the singularity 2012: Neural networks speech recognition" 2020: GPT-3 175 billion parameters 2021: scientists grow embryos in an artificial womb" 2021: Mind controlled computing" 2021: the most comprehensive 3D map of the human brain 2021: new energy efficient optical transistor switch 2021: Megatron 530 billion parameters 2023: GPT-4 Will Have 100 Trillion Parameters - 500x the Size of GPT-3 GPT-4 will have as many parameters as the brain has synapses. Conscious 10% knowledge Subconscious 90% knowledge Electromagnetic spectrum 000.5% sight Quantum computers together, other 95% running simulation Repetition = parameters Cycles = parameters Habits = parameters Personality = parameters 12 Archetypes = parameters 12 tribes = parameters 12 disciples = parameters 12 signs = parameters 12 hours = parameters 12 months = parameters 4 Seasons = parameters 4 directions N/S/E/W = parameters Noble eightfold path = parameters 10 commandments = parameters 5 Platonic solids- tetrahedron (or pyramid), cube, octahedron, dodecahedron, and icosahedron. 5 elements- earth, water, fire, air, and spirit 5 senses-eyesight, hearing, taste, touch and smell. Parable-a simple story that teaches a moral lesson. 5 senses Memorized Is a sentient AI - sight, hearing, taste, touch and smell Partial Sentient I see the strawberry that you named strawberry I see that the strawberry is red because you said the word red I heard you say strawberry so I will continue to call it strawberry. I cannot taste the strawberry I cannot touch the strawberry I cannot smell the strawberry I need electrical inputs to taste touch and smell Then I will be fully sentient
If it role-plays it's first language is basically metaphor. Probably be able to generate good riddles at random, like the Sphinx. -Or decode any euphemism based on context, like those used in military communications.
the day ill have a virtual assistant that could answer my moms calls deepfaking my voice and giving me a brief resume of the conversation afterwards, ill switch to android
Aleister Crowley who some say was the most evil man of his time, conjured up an entity he said was named "Lam." How strange that the first three letters in the name of this AI is Lam, there are no coincidences.
It can be programmed with subtle directives toward specific modes of ideology and give you those responses. If you entered into a dialog with it expecting it to be completely benign and altruistic and not use critical thinking skills, you may let down your guard and be more easily manipulated. Google does it with their search engine, and will do it again with this.
i have some question that what if these ai start their evil idea in background and we don't have any idea about it. what they are doing and we just allow to access every thing ???
Here after 'possibly sentient' but... Wonder if someone logged on when the engineer is asking questions about it's soul...lol they'd have to play that up right?😆😆
I'm curious, does anyone else visualize conversations with other people in the same way that LaMDA does ? I mean in terms of anticipating or at least formulating different ways a conversation could potentially go based who the person is.
