What a shame if you stop here. My absolute favorite Alien movie is Alien 3, with Charles S. Dutton. Also, Alien v Predator wasn't the best of the series but it is a visual feast and gives some crazy cool backstory for both franchises. Opinions vary, and I would like to hear yours. 😉
Also Prometheus ( even though a later date release) preludes Alien1 ...which shows how the alien spaceship crashed. Sorry haven’t checked, but if you watch “ the thing “ ...watch the later version first....then watch the earlier version. Later version preludes earlier version .
Bill Paxton was also in Dallas in 1963 when JFK got shot; he was like 8 years old; he said he remembered waving at JFK when he passed by him and his parents. there's even newspaper photos of him as a kid in the crowd with is family watching JFK.
@@Pinkielover No Alien and Aliens where close to perfection, alien 3 was an abomination that is not the slightest bit close to what was originally written, when a film goes through directors faster than a night worker does a pack or trogons it is bad but when that same movie is constantly being re-written countless times to the point they would set up for filming only to get a script re-write right before filming screwing up the day, when it comes to Alien 3 not one of the directors where happy with that film and the writers hated the story after it was re-written, even S said in an interview that she was against the idea of the film but only did it because the money was right, she later reported in another interview that had she known the mess it would be she would not have made it and that she regretted doing it, so when the several directors that worked on it do not like it and the several writers do not like it and the main actor does not like it and the majority of the fans do not like it who is wrong
Alien 3 wasn't a bad movie but it was a terrible, awful sequel to Aliens. Even the director hates it. There's an Alien III script by William Gibson was much better and turned into an audio book (you can listen to it free on RU-vid). Better than what we got.
Fun fact: the scene where Ripley finds out what happened to her daughter, the picture used was actually Sigourney Weaver's mother Elizabeth Inglis. And due to this scene in the Special Edition, we ended up getting Amanda as the lead character of what is considered not just the best Alien video game, but what is considered the best survival horror video games of all time - Alien: Isolation.
@@JohnnyZenith But it was a fun fact to share. Not many people know the trivia behind the film, especially those who have seen the film for the first time. And the fact that Cameron used Elizabeth Inglis'' picture for Amanda is pretty awesome because it helped Weaver in her performance during that scene. And due to the scene, we got a second and equally bad-ass Ripley for one of the best Alien games ever made. If you don't find it fun, that's okay. But that's what it was meant to be, fun and interesting. As far as I'm concerned, we're all cool here (which includes you, even if you feel like you're uncool). :)
Completely agree! I only just came across this guy, but he's definitely now the second movie-reactor I can watch without getting irritated (lol). The other being Brandon Likes Movies.
When people ask the question: Which one is better? I say they both compliment each other so amazingly well, I can't watch one without watching the other. Sure, some people might like action more and prefer the second one, and some might like suspense more and prefer the first one, but they are basically a package.
There's a video on RU-vid somewhere of the behind the scenes for the making of The Abyss and how the cast and crew were basically put through hell to make it. Great movie though.
No. The only thing they should've kept is the revelation of Ripley';s daughter. Most of the other scenes could've done without, especially the Hadley Hope scenes. Less is more. But today's audience need everything explained to them. They cannot engage their own imagination and think. for themselves. Audience back then just need to take a look at Newt's photo and could imagine what her life was like before the infestation. But today's audience need a whole 10 minute of additional scenes. These same scenes that totally ruin the mystery and suspense in the film's first half. It is telling so many fanboys felt Aliens is better than Alien, as the original actually engages the audience's imagination and make them think...something today's fanboys lack the ability to...hence why our movies nowadays are so crappy and just rely on jump scares and gore.
The most significant thing they cut out to make the original theatrical release version was the scene early on in the film in which Burke tells Ripley about her daughter and how she had just recently died. That's a shame, too, because, as you noted in your reaction, that scene sets up a context in which Ripley's subsequent relationship with Newt develops. I saw this film in the theater in 1986 during its initial release, and I remember being mildly dissatisfied with that particular aspect of the film. I walked out of the theater back in '86 thinking to myself, "Didn't this woman, Ripley, have a past, a life back on Earth, something that she would miss after being gone for 57 years?" Well, as we now know, the answer to that question was yes, but it ended up on the proverbial cutting-room floor. Thankfully, that scene was restored in the "special edition."
I like ALIEN3, but for me it takes place in a different "what if?" timeline. Either that, or it may even be a nightmare that Ripley has on her way back to Earth.
So the power loader was actually a prop suspended from wires with another person directly behind Ripley. Reportedly warehousing companies tried to find out where Cameron bought them. However the Canadian YT channel The Hacksmith is building a full sized working power loader (although treaded instead of legs since balancing was difficult/dangerous). They just had video on it today. The other thing I’ll mention is on the strength of the special edition scene where Ellen finds out about her daughter Amanda we got the really quite excellent survival horror game Alien: Isolation about Amanda trying to find her mother. The game happens between Alien and Aliens and it feels like being in the original movie. It also has DLC where you can play as one of the original crew (voiced by the original actors) from Alien and get chased around the Nostromo by the Alien. It came out in 2014 but still looks really good.
It's unlikely that walkers - at the very least, bipedal walkers - are ever going to beat treads for a lifter. With treads and the engine at the bottom, you get a low center of gravity with all the stability benefits that affords; add to that that treads mean a greater surface area in contact with the ground, making them more effective out of doors, where the ground could be soft or uneven. That said, if you've got a young kid and one of those carriers that straps on to your front, it's always going to be an excellent option for a Halloween costume.
If one play's Alien Isolation where you play Amanda Ripley's character. You eventually come across a plausible explanation of why the colony did not pick up the warning signal. The co-ordinate's however were unfortunately provided by Ellen Ripley during her hearing which Burke took advantage of.
"Director's cuts" and "special editions" are not necessarily better than original theatrical release versions. Sometimes they are; sometimes they're not. It really just depends on the particular film. That being said, in the case of "Aliens," the "special edition" is definitely the way to go--you made the right call.
I agree because in this case it gives a lot more impact to Newt calling her "Mommy" at the end: Ripley lost her own daughter and Newt had lost her mom. I will say that in about 95% of cases I've seen though, the theatrical cut is generally the better version.
100% disagree. This version kills the pacing of the movie and the mystery with showing the colonists at the beginning. It’s is one great example of a theatrical release being better.
All you actually need is in the theatrical version... The longer version is good and it's the one I watch myself, now, but I would never recommend it for the first time viewer The pacing is much better in the theatrical and the same is the sence of mistery; who is the small girl and what happened to the colony?.. You probably won't recommend the extended LOTR for the same reason.
@@fastertove LOTR is a tough call. The pacing in the extended Fellowship is far superior to the theatrical edition (enough that I would say there's no reason ever to watch the theatrical edition, even once). But the exact opposite is true for The Two Towers. The scene with Boromor, Faramir, and Denethor is absolutely critical to Faramir in the Two Towers, it's the only scene that should have been kept in -- everything else ruined the pacing and flow of the film, especially the Helm's Deep sequence. Aliens is another tough call. The stuff with Newt and Ripley is pretty critical, and it's a shame that stuff got cut. But much of the rest was unnecessary and comes close to ruining the pacing of the scenes they extend.
LOTR extended is not best for first-time, especially if they have no knowledge of the universe before - It is way too long.... Aliens have one scene, the one where Ripley gets updated about her daughter, that could be in a ultimate edition. The rest additions are good, but not critical.
There used to be a theme park/experience in London based on Aliens. You had to sign a form saying you didn't have heart issues before-hand from memory.
I just found out a few days ago that there was a deleted scene that did not even make it into the director's cut...on her way to find Newt with the wrist tracking device, she comes across Burke cocooned in the Aliens lair. He is alive and conscious but has been implanted, and he begs Ripley to help him...she gives him a grenade and continues on her way to find Newt. I really would love it if that scene had made the movie...what do you folks think?
There is a short story on RU-vid about Burke. It goes into his final moments and his psychological trauma. Another scene that got cut was Ripley's daughter still being alive. Ripley speaks to her on videochat and the daughter was to tell her she hated her for never coming home. I am glad they cut it.
Burke’s too slimy! I wouldn’t trust him with a grenade. I think he’d arm it and try to throw it back. SPOILER Okay, he does use it on himself in the scene, but you’d have no way of knowing that. Let the smegger rot!
I've seen it and I think it's right that they cut it out. It would have screwed up the emotional flow of that part of the movie. I think it might have worked if she'd walked past him after rescuing Newt, and she just completely ignores him, but the way it was timed I think it would have broken the moment of her searching for Newt.
speaking of rides in the UK we had an interactive experience called Alien War. it starts off as a tour of a company science facility and several aliens break free. you are guided around a huge complex being chased by actors in original alien costumes trying to make it to an escape drop ship. was amazing as there were colonial marines in full costume as guides and even a plant in the group who gets dragged out of an elevator mid way. 10 out of 10 piss myself scared lol
The theatrical cut had deleted two scenes that I can remember: 1) The scene where Newt's family discover the ship and get attacked by the facehugger. 2) The scene where they setup and test the autonomous guns There might have been more, but those are the major ones that come to mind.
In the early 90’s in Scotland there was a haunted house attraction in alien style called Alien War using the props and scenes from Aliens. You were treated as a colonist being escorted by marines to a safe area while being chased by the aliens. Closest thing to a theme ride I know of. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_War
@@thinkingoutloud3757 Agreed! In the early 1990's, then-Disney CEO Michael Eisner suggested a ride where you basically sit in an APC and ride through LV-426, being attacked by aliens. Unfortunately this was deemed "not Disney". The attraction that WAS created was the ExtraTERRORestrial Alien Encounter. This was a theatre in the round where an alien is beamed into a giant clear tube in the centre of the room. This then escapes and "walks" around the chamber, menacing guests. What actually happens is you hear what sounds like the alien right behind you through the speakers embedded in the headset you have been locked into. You feel it breathing on your neck, which is actually fine mist sprayers, spraying on your skin. Unfortunately, due to enough Karens of the time complaining their precious little babies were being scared too much, this was closed down and the attraction was re-themed to the Stitch Escape attraction. This has also since been closed.
Every bit of the motion-sensing sentry gun scenes were cut from the theatrical release. Glad you watched this version because those scenes are kinda great. The other major scene that was cut from the theatrical release was the early scene with the colony before it was overrun -- everything from the kids running around the facility to Newt's family going on the "road trip." So in the theater you first meet Newt in her shellshocked, feral state.
Aliens is one of the most epic Syfy movies ever created. It host the most epic battle scene of all time when Ripley battles the Queen. " get away from her you BITCH"! And for the full company name weyland- yutani.
One of the greatest sequels of all time, for sure. And that line got the biggest reaction from the audience, not to be beaten until Captain America summoned Thor's hammer in Avengers Endgame or Luke Skywalker came to save Grogu in the season finale of The Mandalorian.
@@ronmaximilian6953 I do see that error. It autocorrect by mistake I did miss that in my typing. But thank you for letting me know Syfy is a channel on TV. Not like I knew that but thank you again for pointing that out. For that I'm am going to not correct it.
When I saw the theatrical version of "Aliens" in an ex-Cinerama theater, I noticed that Ripley was able to "get close, quickly" with Newt. Movie reviewers chalked that up to "Sisterhood." I didn't think so, and when I played the Laserdisc Special Edition of "Aliens," it was crystal clear that the connection between Ripley and Newt was parent-and-child. Other surprises popped up as the disc played, and I've preferred Special Edition cuts ever since. 21:08 I wonder if some kids got their names from this scene?
Yes, there was a ride! Opened in 1995, The ExtraTERRORestrial Alien Encounter was a "theater-in-the-round" attraction located in the Tomorrowland section of the Magic Kingdom theme park at Walt Disney World Resort. It was closed in 2003 because it was said to be too scary and replaced by Stitch's Great Escape. There is footage of the ride on RU-vid and as I remember it, it was pretty creepy considering it was Disney. The ride's design was based somewhat on these movies.
After we found out that Ripley lost her daughter *AND* Newt lost her mom (and dad and brother), her calling Ripley "Mommy" at the end has that much more of an impact. Both of those scenes, by the way, were cut from the theatrical release. If you like the relationship Ripley ends up having with Hicks and Newt and Bishop, *DO NOT WATCH ALIEN 3!*
But is it really needed to know about Ellen's lost Child in the beginning, for Newt's "Mommy" to become impactfull? The theatrical version shows those fine, imo.
@@fastertove I think it adds to it, since Ripley missed out on her daughters life and basically gained a daughter. They had both found a connection that they lost.
@@almightyshippo1197 I agree that the scene with Ripleys daughter adds to it, without ruining anything, but I think that showing Newt´s family doesn´t because she tells about it herself - the scene also removes suspence regarding what happened to the colonials and removes some of the feeling of exploration of the environment (this isn´t a issue for second viewings).
@@fastertove , suspense indeed works best only upon first viewing, hence this guy made a mistake in watching the extended version first. He could have watch it later and still get the emotional impact, but the suspense have been compromised and cannot be recaptured. While interesting, the Hadley Hope scene turned out to be not needed. That one singular photo of Newt that Ripley found is all that is needed to convey what was her life prior to the infestation. So many people today think extended is better but they forgot the it is the original theatrical cut that became a hit, the theatrical cut also use the same technique that made the first one so effective: LESS IS MORE. Let the audience THINK and draw their own conclusions. SHOW, don't tell.
@@fastertove True: The fact that we already knew in the theatrical version that Newt had lost her mom (and father and brother) gave us plenty of reason to be affected by the "Mommy" statement. Most of the time, the theatrical version is the one that is the best for the simple reason that it's the one that the director, editor and studio have poured over the most. Occasionally, though, the studio gets a little TOO involved and seriously weakens the overall product. DC's Justice League comes to mind, where they were demanding a
Funny you should mention the Batmobile; the set where they shot the nest scene - Acton Power Station - was also the set for Axis Chemicals in the 1989 Batman movie.
Other SF movies you should check : Pitch Black 2000, Event Horizon 1997,The Thing 1982,Sphere 1998, Outlander 2008,The Abyss 1989,Pandorum 2009,Life 2017,Scanners 1981
Walt Disney World used to have an attraction called The Great Movie Ride. It had a section about the first Alien film where you travel through the Nostromo and get attacked by the Alien. Additionally, there was another attraction called the Extra-terrorestrial Alien Encounter. It wasn't based on Alien, but had extremely similar vibes and was quite scary.
The two major additions to the special edition were the scenes in which they talk about Ripley's daughter, and the subplot with the autoguns in the tunnel. That, and Ripley and Hicks revealing their first names (Ellen and Dwayne).
The loader impressed so many corporations that they called the movie studio trying to order them, not realizing that they were puppeteered, with a combination of practical effects and stop motion animation.
It's really worth seeking out the assembly cut of Alien 3, this version of the film gives a better idea of the conception of the original script before the studio fired the original director and changed the script during production, you should definitely watch it in your own time if people don't wanna see it on your channel. It's a gorgeous looking movie and it's a young "David Finchers" first movie.
No. First of all, "worth watching just for the xenomorph" is already a red flag. It's basically a way of saying the rest of it is trash. Second, it breaks continuity and personally destroys everything that happens in Aliens, and every character in it. It's not just bad, it's offensive. It's bad fanfic with a studio budget and studio approval, made by people who didn't give a damn about the characters, continuity, story, etc. The entire thing depends on a gigantic "plot hole" that still can't be explained 30 years later, because there's no real explanation. Just horrible writing.
Those fork lift things are used in Japan, they tried them here in the states but all crates had to be changed to accommodate them so it was cheaper to just use the regular forklifts.
This is my all time favorite film, and i'm glad you chose this version to watch. Now for what's different. Ripley's daughter was cut. Newt's family, and the people on the colony were cut. Hudson talking about the queen was cut. The sentry guns were cut. Learning Ellen and Dwayne's names were cut.
It's true that some directors' cuts are just marketing ploys dreamed up by the studio, but in some films, it really is the definitive version that includes scenes that were always intended to be left in but were cut for time. If you ever watch Blade Runner, for instance, be sure to watch the director's cut; the theatrical cut was tampered with by the studio and is a very different movie.
So I think the scenes cut from theatrical ver. where. Showing the colonists families working in their base, Newts parents going to the alien ship and the consequences, Ripley being told of her daughters death, and the much longer sentry guns firing scene.
Sequels took longer in the 80s because they were creating original IP, and this meant that the first movies we’re never expected to be successes. Now, TV is the medium for original ideas and like you said, movie franchises are master planned from the beginning; because they are based on popular already existing properties. Because of this, studios have confidence that they will be profitable
one of the things about when James Patterson directs a sci-fi, is that he likes the props to look like they would actually work and be real. he did the same with Avatar, with vehicles like the Samsons and Scorpion attack copters, and the battle suits.
"Alien" and "Aliens" are very different, but equally brilliant. "Alien 3" is the most unspeakable "Fuck You!" to an audience in the history of film and a cancer on the franchise.
You should watch the Assembly Cut of Alien 3, and make up your own mind whether they made the right choice with the direction of the plot, which in my opinion they did.
No. There's no way to "un-see" it. It's like saying "you should cut your arms and legs, and judge for yourself." How else would you know what it's like, right?
The different things in Directors Cut ... theatrical didn’t have the stuff with Ripley’s daughter, which is the big reason a lot of people like DC version better. It changes the theme and dynamic of her relationship with Newt, as well as the final confrontation being a battle of mothers that have suffered loss. In the theatrical version, you don’t see the colony at all until Ripley shows up. The audience goes into it with the same uncertainty as Ripley/Marines, which I personally prefer. There’s also some added dialogue in the middle, and Ripley doesn’t kill any aliens in the attack scene on the base, only at the end. The sentry guns scene is a weird one. I saw it on the original VHS release, and have found people that saw it back then too, but most didn’t see it until the DC version.
29:44 The ONLY additional scene I would remove or move to a different place, is when Ripley and Hicks exchange first names. She's supposed to be rescuing Newt from imminent alien implantation, and they are all facing a nuclear explosion. They don't have two seconds to "have a moment." No at that particular moment. Before or after, no problem.
I do not understand why there is even a question of what version to watch, original Aliens is excellent but Aliens SE is just as excellent but it expands on things creating back story with her daughter and this also helps to bring understanding to how she acted with newt, it also expands on the colony and expands more on how the aliens got to the Connolly and many many more bits all just adds to the story.
The scenes cut were newts family scene. The scene of people working an the kids running around,. The sentry guns shooting all the aliens up. Prob 1 or 2 more I'm forgetting
The main thing the director's cut adds to the movie is the stuff showing the colonists at the beginning. The theatrical cut gets to the action a bit quicker, the directors cut takes it's time and sets up the story a bit more.
Well, that's it. End of story. No more movies. Nope. This is all you need to know. Trivia: Did you know Sigourney Weaver (Ripley) was nominated for an Oscar because of this role? She didn't win, but at that time, being nominated for a horror movie was a huge deal. And the studio at first didn't want James Cameron to pursue the Ripley story because they were too cheap to pay Sigourney what she deserved. Obviously, James told them to fuck off and refused to do a no-Ripley version. And here we are.
Good man. Don't get me wrong I love the theatrical cut. After all it was the movie that got me into the franchise. But the Special edition is by far the superior cut.
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I heard that the original role of Ripley was supposed to be male. But that Sigourney Weaver tried for the part anyway and was so good that they cast her. Now of course if this were true could you imagine this role going to anyone else! She is perfect.
In an interview with special effects director John Richardson he talk about pulling pranks, someone had to be directly behind Sigourney Weaver hidden in the mechanical power loader to maneuver it. Well they had rigged a balloon to inflate in the crotch area of the guy behind her, John Lees, making Sigourney think he was getting turned on since she'd feel the bulge on her rear end. Wonder how bad of publicity that sort of thing would get nowadays lol
FYI, Sigourney's mother IRL played Ripley's daughter. Bill Paxton (Hudson) died a few years ago. Jones was played by 5 different cats. And.......if you loved Newt don't watch the 3rd movie.
I would still recommend you watching the rest in the series on your own time. You don't have to prep for a video reaction production, but just on your own time, lying on yer sofa. The first two are high bars to match, but for the sake of variety and story, the ones that followed are good. As you said, "anything extra to just live in that world"... ish.
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Aliens the directors cut actually really brings the movie together. There are alot of key scenes that where cut. But again James Cameron has this habit of cutting crucial scenes that explains the movie and brings it together the movie The Abyss is another example of that as well.
The interesting thing about The Abyss is that it would work even if you took the aliens completely out of the movie: The human interaction alone was great. And that drowning scene... Ouch, that's hard to watch the first time.
I do recommend alien 3. It is Different from the first two but it has it’s own special qualities. The acting is fantastic. If you do decide to watch it I would definitely Watch the directors cut over the theatrical release😀
The Extended Cut is NOT the Director‘s Cut. The Theatrical Cut or Director‘s Cut has the faster pace. The extended edition is interesting for fans. I saw the movie in 1986 at the cinemas. What a ride!
What I like about the theatrical cut is that we get no footage of the families on the planet beforehand. When Ripley goes in blind not knowing what was going on or what to expect on LV426, we as the audience go in blind with her. It creates a tension that gets a bit ironed out in the director's cut.
The cheesy, "I'm Duane" "I'm Ellen" scene is also thankfully not in the theatrical cut. Why on earth, when time is of the essence to save Newt's life would Ripley pause to flirt with Hicks? She wouldn't! It's completely ridiculous.
1. It's a great movie to watch as a teenager or adult. I saw it for my 9th birthday, which wasn't as good an idea. Let's just say that I did not have good dreams every time I had a stomach ache that summer. 2. Chekov's forklift 3. Nuke it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure
Ripley's story is amazing for so many reasons, but also because the narrative follows the classical path of Maiden, Mother and finally Crone. Alien 3 was bittersweet but also highly fitting end (IMO) to the main franchise. Then Alien: Resurrection happened and many if not most fans hated it because it was dark and twisted (sick, maybe even parody?) "Resurrection" or an uno reverse card of storytelling. If you ever watch it keep that in mind.
The story goes that the way this movie got made was that James Cameron (the director) was pitching a film project to the studio and got turned down. On his way out he struck up a conversation with the receptionist who said to him as he was walking out the door, half kiddingly, "Well, you could always do a sequel to Alien!" and that put the seed of this movie in his head and the rest is history as they say.
The theatrical version did not have the scenes with the sentry gun units. I don't think it had the scene of Newt's family visiting the crashed Engineer ship, either.
Yeah that’s right and loads more, my parents had the vhs when I was a kid and I recall the box boasting how there was an extra 18mins or something. I remember seeing it on TV and the scene where Ripley discovers that her daughter is dead was completely missing. I’m surprised the studio cut it.
Kind of think of it as this; ALIEN- truckers in space. Haunted house style of horror ALIENS- Marines in Space. Action/Adventure genre ALIEN3- Prisoners in Space. More of a Drama genre. ALIEN RESURRECTION-Pirates in Space. Definitely an Art House genre. Ridley Scott's 2nd movie James Cameron's 2nd movie. David Fincher's 1st movie Jean-Pierre Juenet's 1st American made movie but has made 3 movies prior.
Personally, I find the Director's Cut to be a mixed bag. The scene with Ripley learning the fate of her daughter is crucial to better understanding the subtext of her story with Newt but the scenes at the colony and Newt's family journeying to the derelict hurt the suspense of the later scene of the arrival to investigate. The best version is, in my opinion, the television edit which contains the aforementioned former scene but not the latter. Sadly the television edit is not available on DVD or BluRay as far as I know. I have the copy I recorded off TV thirty years ago which I really should get converted to digital (same for the television edits of Star Trek: The Motion Picture and Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan).
Nope. The "suspense" is EXACTLY the same. As soon as Burke says they lost contact with the colony, we all know exactly what happened. The ONLY thing that you might call a "spoiler" is the fact that the company sends them looking for the alien ship. Which you are going to find out soon enough, and doesn't really spoil anything. In fact, we don't even know it was Burke at that point. This is revealed exactly at the same time in both versions, when Ripley confront him about it. The colony scene does explain why Newt is the only survivor, though. Without that scene, it doesn't make sense. It's just something you have to accept without explanation. i.e., a plot hole. The Special Edition fixes that.
I still think the theatrical cut has a much better pacing. I don't like seeing Newt with her family before Ripley finds her, I think the turret scene is way too long and unnecessary. The only good addition in the directors cut is that we get to know that Ripley had a daughter, but I take better pacing over that one good scene.
@@BenRai2k They are the same people that complain now that Disney has the rights despite Aliens literally having a happy ending and wanting a rehash for the sequel.
@@BenRai2k Did anyone have a problem with the ending in Star Wars (the original)? Do you see a lot of people hating it for it? I don't see any. At all. Ever. Anywhere.
Some day, I want to cut together an ultimate version of Aliens. It keeps the good stuff from director cut, but removes some of the major mistakes the director cut made. KEEP: Ripley learns about the fate of her daughter. This was a great scene, important to her relationship with Newt. CUT: Hadley's Hope, Newt's family is shown. God, what a huge mistake it was to include this scene. It saps the mystery and suspense later on. CUT: Hudson's "ultimate badass speech." I don't think it works well. It just.. seems kindof dumb, in an otherwise well-written film. CUT: When they first arrive, the motion trackers pick up alien movements, but it was just pet hamsters in someone's office. This just feels redundant; it doesn't teach us anything that isn't shown in surrounding scenes. The theatrical version is nice and tight. This version just saps the flow of suspense. KEEP: Extended planning session, where the sentry guns are mentioned. Cutting this out made their defensive plans hard to follow in the theatrical edition. The extended edition is much clearer! Good job. KEEP: Also keep the sentry guns. Needed or not, they're really badass. KEEP: Extended bedtime talk with Newt. Newt/Ripley bonding time is always good. KEEP: Hudson's ant hive theory. I could take it or leave it, but it's nice to see Hudson with good ideas. CUT: Hicks and Ripley exchange first names. I'm torn -- it's a good moment, and good info, but the original version is edited SO PERFECTLY that it's a shame everything comes to a stop here. I wish that exchange could have been moved, but the only way was to reshoot it originally. There are other minor scenes, but I have no opinion on keeping or cutting them.
@@johaarup I still like the sentry guns, but I will say having two scenes with them was redundant. I think it's an interesting into to the idea of the aliens using themselves as cannon fodder to be able to break through, an idea they would come back to later in the series.
Definitely the SE was the correct choice as it adds a bit more substance and motivation. There's a very good argument to be had that this is the greatest action movie of all time- it just has it all- suspense, emotional connection to the characters, superb action sequences and keeps you nervous throughout. I personally think nothing really comes close.
Movie companies were very wary of sequels in the 70’s and earlier It was believed that sequels gave deminishing returns and were not a wise investment as people wouldn’t want to see the same thing over and over. Whilst there were some big sequels in the 70’s (Godfather 2 for example) it wasn’t until the 80’s with Star Wars, Indiana Jones and Back to the Future that sequels became big box office. Nowadays it’s all franchises and cinematic universes but back then not so much.
@@ebashford5334 Why not? I binge watched the video boxset of all 4 films when I was like 10 years old and I loved them all. Alien 3 deserves so much more respect.
The scenes that were cut were the scenes talking about Ripley's daughter. You do not know that she had a daughter at all. The theatrical also is missing the scene where it shows the colonists before the aliens, so you never see them in their normal environment, nor do you see the family that first finds the ship where the dad has the face hugger. The other scene that you do not see is the automatic weapons in the hallway scenes, everything to do with those was cut out. - In your review at the end, you immediately connected how Ripley lost her daughter and thus had that immediate connection with Newt. You also commented how it gave you the interesting background having seen the colonists before hand. So imagine if you did not get to see those scenes, it detracts from the movie. - The auto firing gun scene I thought was nice, because it showed that the Aliens did try to get in before having to get clever and find another way. Without that scene, it does make you wonder why they did not try to get through the barricades like they did against the colonist barricades. However they did mention in behind the scenes that they just did not have the budget to do more with the aliens then have them stand as a prop with exploding squids. That is why they do not seem to be moving when you see them get shot by the autoguins. You did mention how they did not show the aliens much and that is part of the reason why. - Its weird to hear how the studio wanted to cut those scenes to keep the movie shorter when today we are used to two and a half to three hour movies. But the 80's was a different time and most action films were about an hour and a half or so. Probably so when they came to TV you could fit in 30 minutes of commercials for 2 hours of programming.
What I like about the theatrical cut is that we get no footage of the families on the planet beforehand. When Ripley goes in blind not knowing what was going on or what to expect on LV426, we as the audience go in blind with her. It creates a tension that gets a bit ironed out in the director's cut.
A lot of people cry about Alien 3, but it was David Fincher's first film (Fight Club, Seven, etc), and it's stellar. It just doesn't have the happy ending that Aliens did, so it upsets the softies. And it has fantastic performances by Charles Dance (Tywin Lannister) and Charles S Dutton. And like all Fincher films, it is visually fantastic. Eliot Goldenthal's score is great too. Not a perfect movie, and it had a ton of development issues (4 directors, about a half dozen different wholly unrelated scripts) but a fitting end to the Ripley story. But that film you MUST watch the special edition (Assembly Cut) based off of Fincher's original storyboards.
Get therapy. The problem was not Fincher or "happy endings." It's not just a horrible mess, but it personally destroys everything that happens in Aliens, and every character. Some movies have "plot holes" and "flaws." This turd would not even exist without something that doesn't even qualify as a plot hole. It's more of a middle finger to Cameron, everything he did with Aliens, and everyone who loved it. And no, it's not a Fincher film. He was not allowed to do what he wanted, he refused to made a "director's cut," and doesn't even want to talk about the movie.
There was not much planned franchises like today where they actually divide a movie into 3 most movies back then were stand alones until it was a good time for a sequel.
Alien wasn't ever written to have a sequel. You should check out the story of James Cameron's sales pitch for Aliens :-) The Theatrical cut misses out the sentry guns which is a shame because they are cool but perhaps more importantly, it underplays the whole deal of Riply's daughter which is a significant emotional undercurrent in her relationship with Newt.
The 1st film was a suspense/horror/scifi film, this was a shoot-em-up action film. The next one is closer in tone to the 1st, more character oriented. The 4th is a different animal, besides Sigourney Weaver it has Ron Perlman and Winona Ryder. I would not say the series goes downhill at all, the action fans like this one of course.
