Watching Return To Oz (1985) FOR THE FIRST TIME!! || Movie Reaction! 

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The storyline and aesthetic of this movie is definitely the closest to the books. In the books oz is more like a fully realized country instead of some magic-fairy land. The books are also much darker and include a lot of themes of violence and death. This movie specifically was based off of the 2nd and 3rd Oz books but mostly the 3rd one. Love ur videos and im super excited that you ended up checking this out! Keep up the good work :)

"If his brain's ran down, how can he talk?" "It happens to people all the time, Jack." _That exchange was ahead of its time._

Omg the fact that they were going to put a little girl through shock therapy gives me chills.

This goes into movies that scared us as children, lol, like "Why was I allowed to watch this as a child?" Mombi's scene with the heads always sticks with me to this day

The story that Dorothy tells the psychiatrist is the ACTUAL story from the book.

The fact that the electro shock therapy didn’t freak you out haha literally gave me nightmares as a kid with such a tense scene

This movie is lot darker than people remembered when they first saw it in theaters. It was released 45 years after the first film was released. Plus it tackles some very serious issues that you'll see throughout.

Nick being totally oblivious to the horrors of mental hospitals back in the day and the dangers of electrotherapy.

Ozma is my favorite character from Baum's novels. When you learn her history you realize how sad her story can be. She was stolen from her father and robbed of her identity when she was only an infant. Her father was dethroned and died a prisoner(despite being a wise and just ruler)so she never had a chance to form any loving relationship with him. Her mother basically abandoned her when she was born and seemingly forgot about her. She was raised an abused servant stripped of her name, her heritage and even her gender. The people of Oz were too busy marveling at how wondrous the so-called Wizard who usurped the throne was, the only person who actually searched for her or showed any concern was Glinda the Good Witch. Even after Ozma was restored to her rightful place she didn't have any family or friends to return to(although Glinda would become a protector and mother figure). Is it any wonder that when Dorothy returned to Oz Ozma would turn to her for companionship and affection? The bond they formed obviously did so much to fill the emptiness in Ozma's life.(This would make good material for a movie itself.)

Also, the design of the Scarecrow, Lion and Tin Man are all much closer to their illustrations in the book. The 1939 film designed them around the actors, but there wasn't really anything human looking about them in the book. The Lion was an actual lion that walked around on all 4 legs all the time. The Scarecrow's face was literally painted onto a sack full of straw, so he had to hide his permanent smile when he was unhappy. The Tin Man looked much like the metal characters that stood outside of plumbing and ironworks stores. The designs of the new characters in this film are also very close to the book.

The Tin Man cutting up his body is in the book. Nicol Williamson who played the doctor and the Nome King famously played Merlin in 'Excalibur' and was one of englands most prominent actors. The nurse who also played Mombi you may recognise as Bavmorda in 'Willow'. From the book her character Princess Mombi is combined from Princess Langwedere who changes her face and the witch Mombi.

I’m so glad you finally watched this! The score by David Shire is honestly my favorite film score of all time. Also, the reason that Scarecrow, Tin Woodman, and the Cowardly Lion look different is because their designs in Return to Oz are actually based on the original book illustrations from 1900-1918, before the 1939 Wizard of Oz film was even made! So these designs are the “original” ones. If you like the story of Return to Oz, I’d recommend reading the Oz book sequels. They all have really ingenious plots like this film.

This movie terrified me, especially the headless witch and the whole first act.

This movie was meant to trigger the most common childhood fears, such as facing pressure in a timed test, and it is meant to be uncomfortable. I won't lie, the king wearing the ruby slippers is such a power move. Great reaction! Sorry if it's repetitive but lots of aloha from Hawai'i!

Very sad this was Walter Murch's first and final film (although he'd won an Oscar for Best Sound Editing for APOCLYPSE NOW, and after directing RETURN TO OZ, he'd win another Sound Editing Oscar for THE ENGLISH PATIENT). But making RETURN TO OZ was such an ordeal (and searching for another directing project even more daunting), he just never tried directing again (which is a true shame as this was a very well-directed movie)

Love how this film also follows the “Dorothy meets ‘em in Kansas, she’ll see ‘em in Oz” element.

Just a few Oz facts: 1. Dorothy's story about the Tin Woodman becoming the state we know him as today is actually straight out of the book. When he was human, he fell in love with a Munchkin maiden, but the maiden's mistress didn't want to romance to happen, so she hired the Wicked Witch of the East (Yes, the witch that got flattened by a falling house) to make sure of it. The witch enchanted his axe as he cutting some trees for building a cottage, his swung his axe, but it cut his leg off. So he went to a tinsmith to have a new leg built, but the witch kept doing the same thing to axe until he was completely made of tin. The reason he went to see the Wizard for a heart was because if he did have a heart, he could finally marry his lover. 2. The infamous ruby slippers were actually a movie original idea by MGM. When the book _The Wonderful Wizard of Oz_ was published in 1900 by L. Frank Baum, he wrote that the shoes were originally made out of silver. They still had the same power that it's known for; tap the heels together three times and think about where you want to go. When the screenplay was being written, they were originally gonna have the shoes be silver like the book, but screenwriter Noel Langley decided on having the slippers be ruby red in color because they figured the red would pop better with Technicolor. When the movie was made, Disney had to pay a licensing fee in order for them to use the ruby slippers in the film. 3. The character of Mombi is a mix of two characters: Mombi from the _Marvelous Land of Oz_ and Princess Langwidere of the Land of Ev from _Ozma of Oz._ Mombi was the central antagonist of the former novel, the mistress to Ozma (who was magically disguied as a boy named Tip), who was eventually defeated at the end of the novel. Princess Langwidere was from the neighboring Land of Ev, one of the various lands that surround the Deadly Desert, which in-turn surrounds Oz. She was most famous having a collection of 30 young and beautiful heads that she could easily swap out.

The faces of the Nomes (gnomes?) as they move through rock and speak is FANTASTIC!

DOROTHY GALE!!! The soundtrack terrifyingly blasts as all the heads spin and turn to look at Dorothy… DOROTHY GALEEEE! The soundtrack continues to powerfully blast as the headless body of Mombi comes toward Dorothy, as she runs down the corridor, the truly nightmarish visual of headless terrified women screaming at her… This film is the true definition of a child’s living nightmare, everything that is normally safe and magical is the opposite, the magic doesn’t feel like an escape, the whole sense you feel is one of feeling trapped and stuck in a world where anything awful can and will happen. I think it’s a perfect sequel, it truly captures the terror of what it is to have a nightmare as a child. Nightmares as an adult you are used to, but nothing ever compares to the true terror of childhood nightmares… they are just so primal and raw, and you naturally are so young and vulnerable so everything does feel greater, more powerful and scarier than you. “The Wizard of Oz” is the perfect representation of a child’s fantasy, while “Return to Oz” is the perfect representation of a child’s nightmare… Great reaction!

I think that originally when we first meet Princess Ozma in the book series she's revealed to be: SPOILER trapped by the wicked witch of the north in the body of a servant boy who's name I've forgotten. Kind of progressive for a time, as good as a 'I'm a girl trapped in a boy's body' story for the early 1900s.

Also, since you like witches so much, if you haven’t seen it, I highly recommend Bedknobs and Broomsticks. No plot details, but the best way I can describe it is kinda like a mixture of Mary Poppins and Harry Potter.

The Oz books by Baum were a series. This is based on a subsequent book.

Yes!!! Cannot wait to see your reaction. It’s not a direct sequel, it’s based on the tone of the books more than the original.

Honestly, as a child, I saw THE WIZARD OF OZ and RETURN TO OZ around the same time at the same age, and personally I loved both

I was so lucky to find you. I really love your reactions and personality. I'm glad people like you exist. 😊

My personal scariest movie ever. The Exorcist was not half as terrifying as Mombi and the Wheelers.

So as a little girl absolutely LOVING the Wizard of OZ and then seeing this movie, I saw it in theaters, I was about 5 years old I think, it was TRAUMATIZING. I had nightmares about this movie for weeks and in my mind it was a horror movie and I never was able to watch it again until I was an adult and even then I was shaking revisiting it lol

This is my ish! 👏🏼💚 the film is more based on the original Oz books by L. Frank Baum than the famous MGM film. Random facts: the ruby slippers were originally silver in the first book “The Wonderful Wizard of Oz”. And the actress, Fairuza Balk is more age appropriate for the character of Dorothy, as she was 9-11 when she started shooting “Return to Oz,” as opposed to a fully developed 16-17 year old Judy Garland portraying a little girl. Oh and the land of Oz in the books is real and not just a dream. Thanks for reacting to this underrated gem! 😊 David Shore, the composer, truly captures the tone for the atmosphere to not only Dorothy’s life in Kansas, but also the whimsical aspect to Oz. The end credits still pull my heart strings and make me feel all emotional 😭😭😂

I love all the parallels between Dorothy's world and Oz. The squealing of the orderlies' wheels and the deranged patients' wailing become the Wheelers (who by the way somehow didn't frighten me as a kid, I think the Nome King bothered me the most, the Wheelers just have such cool costumes and means of transport). Then of course they turn good and back in Dorothy's world, the search party is all played by the actors who played the Wheelers. Nice little easter egg. Also more subtly creepy is the head nurse behind bars like Mombi, it makes you wonder what the hell she and Dr. Worley were doing to the patients.

This movie scared the crap out of me as a kid. A lady who changes her head like a wig? Screeching wheelies? Electroshock therapy??? I was scarred for life!

WB owns the rights to the original movie, so everything was designed to be more like the book illustrations. The plot is a blend of books 2 & 3 in the series. It comes up in the later books, but Toto is able to talk in Oz. He just…. Doesn’t.

So cool to see a new reaction to Return to Oz! I believe the wheelers and Princess Mombi’s heads scarred us all for life. 😅 I feel kind of bad for kids who saw this in a dark theater not knowing what was coming. I’ve always appreciated the weird and eerie atmosphere though

Me: Rents this movie when I'm around 8, expecting a fun little romp akin to the original musical. Movie: Electroshock therapy! Decapitated girls! Tin Man and Lion turned to stone! Wheelers being dissolved into sand! A horrifying stop motion Nome King! They based these more on the books, I believe. Also, Dorothy is played by Fairuza Balk(who got really hot by "the Craft"). Theres another "Oz"movie which I really enjoy and I think you would down the line Nick. Like this one, it didn't have the rights to the MGM film and its story, but Disney did a few tricks to work around it. "Oz:The Great and Powerful"is a backstory for the Wizard himself taking control of Oz after coming from Kansas, with similar tropes to the original MGM film(real world characters becoming people within Oz, etc;)

No kidding, I've probably seen this movie over a hundred times growing up. This is a very dark toned kids movie and I love it. A couple of other things I like there is no singing and there are no munchkins THANK GOD. Hell my favorite color is green because of the emeralds and green imagery toward the end, I think I'm borderline obsessed with this movie 😅

I was looking forward to this reaction.

So glad David Shire is getting the recognition he deserves for this amazing film score!

“Wait, has she been there, too?” Very perceptive reaction, Nick. I love watching your reactions.

"The way [Tik-Tok] walks..." There is a man inside, a gymnast named Michael Sundin who had to bend his 5'5" frame inside the 4' creation. With his head bent almost to his legs, he walked... backwards. Alas, he passed away at age 28, a casualty of AIDS. Jack Pumpkinhead, Billina, Tik-Tok, the Gump, Mombi (who here is a combined character with another character named Langwidere), and the Nome King (correct spelling) are all characters from the first two 'Wizard of Oz' sequel books, and pretty faithfully presented; elements like the Deadly Desert and the Wheelers are also from the books. Seeing the Gump flying in front of the full moon with Jack's head visible in silhouette warms the heart of this lifelong Oz fan. The Oz books are less sunny than people think. The dismembered Tin Woodman's history, for example, is pretty creepy. You do know that Billina is a hen, lays eggs... "him"???

I saw Return to OZ during its (vanishingly short, it turns out) theatrical run as a child. I was probably one of the four or five kids who were fascinated-terrified instead of just, well, terrified. It is exquisitely crafted beautiful nightmare fuel because the practical effects and stop-motion animation are SO good! Thank you for reviewing it!

This movie combines elements of The Land of Oz, book #2, which told the story of Kip, Mombi, Jack Pumpkinhead, & the Gump. It ends with the revelation that Princess Ozma of Oz had been turned into Kip. Ten to eleven year old Dorothy returns in book #3, Ozma of Oz. Dorothy was on a ship lost in a storm & found herself & Billina in a magical land *outside* of Oz, ruled by the evil Gnome King! She encounters the lunch pail tree, the Wheelers, TikTok, & the witch who collects heads & has the trinket room. The Wonderful Wizard of Oz, by L. Frank Bahm, was published in the 1890s. Ten year old Dorothy really was transported to the magical land of Oz, where she encountered little people in blue clothes called Munchkins, where the Witch of the North told Dorothy she had to ask the Wizard in the Emerald City to send her home. The Scarecrow, Tin Man (who tells Dorothy his name was Nick Chopper & the "dark" story of how he became tin), & the Cowardly Lion are depicted precisely like the the famous illustrations in all of Bahm's books. (There were 12 or 14 in total.) We, the fans of the novels, were absolutely thrilled when this movie came out, *especially* by the fact that they FINALLY cast a child actress the right age to be Dorothy!!! I absolutely love the animated versions of Jack, the Scarecrow (who sees better out of his big eye than his small one), the Tin Man, & the Lion!! This movie is a love letter to us. When the original was made, it was reworked to be a vehicle for teen star Judy Garland, who was close to ten years too old for the role! The production team mistakenly believed that, by binding her chest, she could pass for 14... Year, right. She was obviously a teenager acting like a little girl! And, with animation limited to cel animation, they had to redesign her companions so that actors could play them. Imagine how disappointed the fans of the books were on seeing them! The 19th century had a dangerous fascination with electricity, thinking it was a magical cure all. Hence the shock therapy that was supposed to "cure" Dorothy of her delusions. My major disappointment with this movie is that -- when the Gnome King takes physical form -- he looks HUMAN!!! Yes, I understand they were echoing the dream conceit from the bad first movie, so the Gnome King looks like the evil doctor, but why couldn't they have created a caricature of the actor while keeping the Gnome King aesthetic from the book? I WANTED TO SEE THE PLUMP GNOME KING!!! Yes, Glinda is the Good Witch of the South.

“Absolute nightmare fuel.” - Some poor adult who saw this at a young age revisiting it.

This was one of my favorite childhood movies! See 'The Wiz' staring Michael Jackson and Diana Ross

Wicked Witch of the West: defeated by bucket of water. Nome King: defeated by consumption of an egg. Guess it’s true what they say, “Simple, yet effective.”

I can’t believe the little girl that plays Dorothy also plays Nancy, which if he hasn’t already- I hope he does a reaction to The Craft for Halloween!

I like this movie fully for the realistic twist it gives. The first once was truly whimsical and a classic but this one is so dark. Dorothy comes back and talks about OZ to her family who are clearly worried about her mental health. The electric shocks and mombi scene was even more terrifying then a I remember. And while electric therapy still exists today, you cant give more then a bit of shock barely a twig like a jumpstart to the nerves to stabilise and that too in the most rare and extreme cases. The Electric therapy Dorothy was going to be submitted too would’ve left her comatose because it’s electric therapy in the experimental stage. I like how we still don’t get if it was a dream or reality. Thanks for the reaction! ❤️

I think The look for Tin Man, scarecrow & The Lion in this is based of the books.

Please watch "PLANES, TRAINS AND AUTOMOBILES"! Best Thanksgiving movie ever!

One of my favorite parts about this movie is that just about every character in those packed shots at the end, with the parade, are specific characters from the Oz books. Glynda, the Patchwork Girl, General Jinjur, the Frog Man, and so on. So much effort for a scene that only lasts a couple minutes.

Did you notice how everytime someone guessed incorrectly the Nome King would become more human and then it would reverse when Dorothy guessed correctly.

Loved this one! The Scarecrow, Lion and Tin Man look like the original illustrations from the books.

When I watched this movie as a kid, I was so shocked how dark this movie was! Enjoyed the reaction!!!!

I finally got up the courage to rewatch this movie last month, for the first time since I saw it when I was a kid, which was about 25 years ago, I'm not sure how old I was at the time. My grandparents rented it for us 4 grandkids to watch, having no idea how dark it was. It terrified us all. My grandma had to stop the tape. Then she took me aside cause I was the oldest and said if I wanted to finish it I could. I didn't really want to but I wanted to see what happened, so I watched the rest. The things that I always remembered from it were the Wheelers, the headless stone statues, and Mombi with the interchangable heads, the wheelers turning into sand and even when Dorothy first discovers Tick Tock I found that creepy. To me it was like she's trapped in this room with some creepy figure that's going to come to life. Jack was creepy to me too. It's just the kind of vibes and feel to it and the characters. And of course the Gnome King at the end when he eats them. Then after all this time I watch it and when the Wheelers first appeared a chill ran up my spine, but right away we see that it's just a hat on their head and that's not really what their faces are. They're just like people underneath and they're actually goofy. And the part where the Wheeler disolves into sand happened so fast, I remember as being such a huge disturbing deal. Surprisingly I didn't remember the Shock Therapy part at the start. When I watched it this time, I was so nervous cause I had no idea how far they were going to go with it, it was really disturbing.

The head nurse/Mombi actress also played the evil sorceress Bavmorda in Willow.

It’s not the most official sequel, but it’s an awesome movie.

I remember watching this film as a kid, and it was really scary! I think Princess Mombi and her museum of heads, was terrifying, but what scared me more was the Nome Kings final appearance and attempting to devour Dorothy’s friends! Overall it is a good film.

This is _very_ different from the 1939 musical, but that kind of makes sense. While the 1939 musical is the most well known adaptation of the books, it wasn't technically the first and definitely isn't the only one. In a few ways, this film is closer to the books, which did have their creepy and violent moments.

Thank you so much for seeing this, Nick. I know it's not a patch on the original, but it was hugely underrated in its day.

They did a story error because the robot says he can’t feel sorry, no matter what happens but then later in the movie when they’re about to be turned into ornaments, he cries. That’s OK though it’s cute so I’ll allow it. Another movie error is they never show the chicken being put in Jack’s head. I assumed that she fell in there, but she fell beside him, so I’m confused on how she got in his head. Also, it’s weird how Tiktok can’t turn into stone, but he can get turned into an ornament..

In the 80's Disney made 3 films that are unofficially called their "scary movie for kids trilogy". The Watcher in the Woods (1980) Something Wicked This Way Comes (1983) Return to Oz (1985)

Holy shit. Never in my life did I ever expect to see a reaction for this

Fun reaction. If you like this, you might want to check out the Oz books by L. Frank Baum, where most of these characters and story elements came from. They're filled with some truly bizarre stuff. "The Wonderful Wizard of Oz" is just the beginning.

I find it very humorous when people watch Return to Oz, expecting it to be like Wizard of Oz with Judy Garland then get somewhat disappointed when its not at all like it. The thing is though, its not supposed to be like that movie at all, its meant to be more faithful to the actual books which are much more grim and dark than the famous glamorous adaptation of the book. That version of the film took so much creative freedom to a point that I actually like Return to Oz better due to its faithfulness and mood. Is it a little cheesy and campy? Yes, but I think it adds to the charm of it. Personally, I adore grim childhood stories over the fluff children are resorted to these days. In the wise words of Don Bluth, animator of Secret of Nimh and Black Cauldron, children can handle any kind of grim story to give them as long as there's a happy ending. its a shame that this kind of mindset is lost in the film industry today.

Who knew the little girl, who played Dorothy, would go on to play a witch in The Craft?

I first heard of this film through comments on the song "Return to Oz" ("Is this the return to Oz? The grass is dead, the gold is brown, and the sky has claws") so I was more or less prepared going in!

Yay!! I saw this in the theatre as a kid and I liked it a lot. I am glad you're discovering it!

It's so funny to think that that little girl grew up to be the witchy girl in The Craft.

I’ve always thought of this as a Tim Burton version of Oz. I watched this quite a few times as a kid and started reading the book, buut I didn’t finish it. If I wasn’t already fine with horror by the time I watched this, I probably would have had nightmares.

I'm glad you liked this film. I used to watch it all of the time growing up. It is based on the 2nd and 3rd original books. they changed a little bit. the hospital stuff isn't in the books etc. it's neat how they use that and the parallels of them in oz and the actors in their other parts. (jean marsh was Ms Wilson and Mombi etc)

So glad you reacted to this, I feel like no one I know has seen it! I was one of those weirdos who loved this as a child. P.S., your "oh, I do!" at 5:12 was so cute.

Return To Oz will always be a masterpiece in my heart. 😭😭😭❤❤❤🔥🔥🔥✨✨✨

My favourite movie as a kid! Definitely prefer it to the original 🙌🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤

"She has a chicken with her!" *A chicken!* I've never seen this movie before but man, that line killed me! XD

You should react to Sci-Fi Tin Man. It's a mini series that's a continued story of Oz.

I recall a family friend having this movie on VHS. I would see it whenever I would visit and look through the VHS collection they had when I wanted watch. But I never wanted to watch this one cause the cover image always creeped me out lol. But the movie looks interesting at least for visuals and whatnot. But loved your shock to those dark moments and as well as the reactions to the characters and all.

oh my gosh yes this movie is great! i know you love music in movies so i definitely recommend watching " The Wiz". its like the wizard of oz but 100 times better and with music, Michael Jackson is even in it as the scarecrow and Diana Ross as Dorothy , along with other amazing actors. it was my fav movie as a kid :)

So glad you watched the sequel. I love it. Such a different tone and experience to the first. Fun fact: this movie is the closet to how Oz and the characters looked in the books. The writer himself said this movie is the closest to the vision he had for Oz. You should check out the drawings. Scarecrow, Tinman and Lion look exactly like they did in the books.

I loved your reaction to this. I first saw the film at the cinema when I was 8 years old, and it's remained one of my favourite movies ever since. This and 'Honey I Shrunk the Kids' are two childhood comfort films I still watch at least once ever few years. Although I must admit 'Return to Oz' did scare me a bit as a kid, but the first time watching I had to pretend I wasn't scared so my mum wouldn't make us leave the cinema, lol. :)

Tim Burton saw this movie and was inspired by Jack Pumpkinhead to create the character of Jack Skellington, the pumpkin king

They were going to attempt electroshock therapy on her which is pretty seriously scary, it was lucky the power went out when it did or the movie would have been *really* short. Return to Oz is criminally underrated though.

An excellent follow-up to The Wizard of Oz. I was listening to you at the beginning when you were saying "The music makes it creepier than it probably is" and I was like "Oh, he has NO IDEA what he's in for with this movie. lol You should do Tom and Jerry and the Wizard of Oz. Its hilarious. And SHOCKINGLY enough, despite all the creepy elements to this movie (like the headless Queen Mombi and the Wheelers and the fact that they wanted to use electric shock therapy ON A CHILD to make her forget Oz....this movie is only rated PG.

this is how any oz movie and it's characters are supposed to look, set in victorian times this one is superior.

Just so you know, this film has elements more from the original books than the ‘39 film, other than the ruby slippers (which Disney had to pay a fee to include as in the books they were silver).

I saw this movie a couple of times when I was pretty young. For years after that I would ask people if they remembered it. For over 15 years I could never find anyone who had even heard of it. When I would describe it to people they just thought I was crazy. I started wondering if I had made the whole thing up. I find that funny now because the movie is about a girl who explains a crazy story that nobody believes. Of course this was before the internet. Also I'm sure someone else has mentioned this by now but Dorothy was played by Fairuza Balk who is the main which in The Craft.

Thanks, Nick! 🟢

this was the first movie i rented from netflix back when they sent discs in envelopes via mail lol

This movie terrified me as a kid...and to be honest, it still kind of does.

One of the many perks of being a kid in the 80's. So many creepy/terrifying films and they were only given a PG rating.

12:40 The original "The Wizard of Oz" never mentioned the Deadly Desert. That's from the books. This movie is very loosely based on the next two books in the series. 23:10 It's only PG, and it was correct back then. 23:40 The characters' designs were based on the illustrations of Baum's original books.

My man looked at electro shock like it was nothing.

Yay thanks for reacting to this as many dont. I personally loved it. One of my fav items remakes

It's based off a book series, the original Wizard of Oz movie took a lot of liberties to make it, she was a lot younger and the books get super, super dark. If I remember she eventually brings her aunt and uncle to Oz in one of the books, too.

Dorothy: *sees ruby slippers* "My ruby Slippers!!" Nome King: "no...my ruby Slippers... They just sorta fell outta the sky one day..." My favorite part is when he crumbled to his death and Dorothy finally got her ruby slippers back!! Stg that Nome King is evil but mostly Stingy at best

This is the most authentic portrayal of Oz on film. (Not counting Baums silent films from the early 1900’s) Also.. the doctor and nurse at the start were going to perform shock therapy on Dorothy. They were sinister .. hence you could hear all the damaged patients screaming, locked in the cellar from their brains being fried. It’s kinda fucked up.

Alright first one! I absolutely love this film and first saw it around 12 or 13 years old. Since the 1950’s Walt Disney had the rights for the Wizard of Oz and had planned to do a film with the Mousketeers, but the plans fell through and after Walt’s death the rights were going to expire in the 1980’s so this film was made as basically a sequel to the 39’ film and it was unfairly bashed by Critics for being so dark in comparison to the original when the books were quite dark and two of the books were used as inspiration for this one: The Marvelous Land of Oz and Ozma of Oz. The film has since garnered quite the cult following and while it isn’t better than the original which I will say. It is a very good sequel and the reason Dorothy is played by a younger actress is because in the books that is roughly the age she would be instead of Judy Garland’s sixteen year old self, The Disney studio had to pay MGM a fee to use the Ruby Slippers in their film since they were the ones who came up with then being Ruby as in the books they were silver. To clarify the beginning setup with the hospital and the doctor they were going to do a new system called Shock Therapy to basically make Dorothy “Back to Normal” so yes it was best she escaped. The reason I’ve seen explain why the eggs are poison to Gnomes is they are not of natural birth and the egg is a representation of that. I don’t know if that is the true reason or not, but that is what I read. Also there is some deleted scenes that should have been kept in the film: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ojvwUIYokdI.html as many of them explained things better including having the real world equivalent of Tik Tok be the policeman driving the wagon the nurse is in at the end of the film The film only received a pg rating and the first Disney film to have a pg-13 rating wouldn’t be until Pirates of the Caribbean. One thing I wanted to bring up is when Dorothy ends up in Oz it actually happens to her and she really goes there, but comes back as though it was all a dream and similar to the 1939 film where Miss Gulch and the Witch were the two counterparts of each other in this one the doctor and the head nurse were the real world equivalents of the Gnome King and Princess Mombi and played by the same people. You brought up how you didn’t care for the designs of Scarecrow, Tin Man and Lion, but to be fair the way I see it at least is Disney gave their own look for the characters and land of Oz in general because wouldn’t it seem rather unoriginal for this world if everyone who made an Oz film if they just copied the exact same design as the classic?

oh my goodness wHAT? i've been waiting SO LONG for someone to acknowlage this movie!!! I actually started to give up and believe no one would notice it!! I'm so glad, I vividly remember the Wheelers. I will say its an odd movie, but the scary parts do great!

Love your reaction Nick :D This is a great movie and kinda dark

I love this movie so much, it’s clearly a love letter to the books.

The looks for The Scarecrow, Tin Man and Lion in this movie matches the illustrations of the characters in the book “The Wonderful Wizard Of Oz.”

As a former psych victim, the scene with the electroshocking and remembering those people who have been permanently brain damaged or who have died as a result of electroshocking... it makes my blood run cold. It is not a normal procedure - it is quite damaging and can definitely be fatal. You should do your research more thoroughly. Look up victims of electroshocking like Dorothy Dundas and her roommate who unfortunately was killed by it.