@@incypheyou're right but if they're going to fire you they'll still fire you but they can't disclose all that information to your next employer so you're safe. Well here in the US
I am working from home 3 years now. I usually keep RU-vid on my secondary screen and play music or non distracting videos all the time. And it actually helps me from getting bored at work and falling sleepy.
And thats great but a crazy manager will use this to control you and squeeze more work out of you. In my 8 years in corporate i found i had to slow down and extend my work otherwise i would be stuck with more work.
Exactly this! And they brought any of this up I would say okay show me yours and let's compare. Also I want to ask did I not do everything that I needed to be done and on time?
Give employees a minimum required workload to complete, and allow them whatever means necessary to complete it. That is how you build a successful team. You cannot treat a human employee like a robot.
I love how it's like don't you dare do anything for yourself during work hours....but also work overtime (unpaid cause your salaried) on your own time to get your projects done.
This is why I do all my web surfing on my PC that's setup next to my work laptop. Also, shame on the businesses that create employee spying software in the first place! Trust is a two-way street, so employers who operate from bad faith from the get-go can expect their employees to do the same to them.
because, instead of doing the hard work and coming up with a vision so strong that it could make everyone care and motivated to make the company better. they just come up with lazy way out like monitoring every movement of their employees this is a tool used by mediocre people in attempt to control someone, because they're too incompetent to be able to inspire their employees directly.
After I started my first job, I was so motivated to create value for my company, to work with my team on projects and just solve all challenges to make progress towards our company goals. I was healthy, motivated and productive. But slowly, having to work 8 hours EACH FREAKING DAY, I became unhealthy, unmotivated and unproductive. Instead of asking myself what can I do next to create value for my company and my team, I was asking myself how can I spend the next 8 hours of working time to not get completly exhausted so I can at least go to the gym or do Something with my friends after work instead of just falling over into bed. I fully understand people that have to work full time why they are putting up a productivity theater because anything else is unsustainable and unfullfilling.
Yes 8 hours is too much. The ideal is 2x 90 min blocks of high intensity and focused, uninterrupted work, a couple of meetings, some time for admin stuff and then you're done.
@@bloobabblein some work places 8 hours is really hard, it depends on the type of work you doing. Yes there are people qorking more and that is hard too but doing 36 or 48 hour shift doesn't diminished how hard 8 hours could be on some workplaces. Specially if ir is a highly cognitive and emotionally intensive job.
@bloobabble So you didn’t listen to any of the replies. Ok, go take a nap grandpa. You clearly don’t understand what the modern work environment is like.
The way I see it, if I hire an adult, I’m going to treat them like an adult. If you’re a competent manager you know who your effective employees are. I’m not babysitting these people. We’re here to work and get a job done. Sure, every so often you’ll get one who takes advantage of the situation but again, it’s obvious who it is and in my experience, talking to them and showing them the results of their performance has generally been enough to help them want to move forward on their own. I think humans naturally want to be at least somewhat productive and make a difference and many I’ve dealt with are willing to work hard to help the person next to them. If your company uses this stuff then it’s obvious you don’t trust the people you hire, so maybe get some new hiring managers? Or a better culture?
@@GungaLaGunga yes that's is fine. Use company equipment for COMPANY work but use your personal equipment for your personal work. On my company phone and computer I don't even buy airline tickets or do any personal work
Exactly. I do everything personal on my phone. I don’t do personal stuff on the work pc. I have to go in to work everyday. I have been using my iPhone for personal stuff for years. I never log into FB, Twitter or RU-vid on the work pc. No social media on work pc.
@@K4R3N it’s like you didn’t read what was said above… he said he quit because they wanted him to use his own devices for work and monitor them. Please read before just mindlessly responding, it’s giving bot 🤖
Employees should be judged by performance on deadlines not active time. A company does not profit on active time but what is produced during that time.
@@yark618 Not fully applicable these days, but the concept of "wage slavery" was actually an argument the South made for the preservation of Slavery-- i.e. that the conditions of wage slavery at the time in the North were more brutal on the slaves since in wage slavery you just "rented" rather than "Owned" your slaves. If you own something you will want to take care of it and not "wear and tear" them like adam smith articulated.
I've been working for 28 years, and I am just over it. I really want out. I worked my butt off at every job I have ever had, even now as WFH, I just want out. I don't need a billion dollars, it's all becoming too much :(
As a Sr Director for a biotech I encourage my employees to have a work life balance. They know what our mission is and what needs to get done and when and how. The rest is up to them. I am happy when they mix up their day with personal time and relax. This creates a happy employee I can have on my team for years.
My boss and managers would sit in their office all day pretending to have important meetings. The employees started eavesdropping. Turns out all they talk about is golf and Joe Rogan. 🙄🤡 Suffice it to say they were not inspirational company leaders. Three of us quit soon after.
I'm working right now, and I'm on youtube, I was watching a video that help me to solve a problem that no one on my team had solved yet. Deal with that, manager.
A former employer when I worked for them, pretty much had to trust their field staff. With technology, they were then able to monitor them more closely to ensure their field crew were not slacking. What actually happened is that most of the technicians were highly motivated and had been often working through lunch, inhaling a sandwich between field calls when extremely busy. With monitoring, they had to take their full lunch hour since the company didn't want to pay the overtime. End result was the company actually got less from their employees.
Having a big building for a business of office work costs a lot of monsy. Give a little of those savings to your employees and let them get tasks done at home. So long as the work gets done, why be micro managing?
I’ll usually have RU-vid open and playing in the background. Usually via listening to either music, some type of interview, or Mr Ballen. No different than having Spotify open. I actually left my last employer bc they got super strict with the time cards. It had to be at this exact time and then punch out at this exact time. I was like, I’m an adult. I hate being micromanaged. Last time I did stuff like that was in high school. Just make me salary if it’s that important.
What makes you think there is gonna be any difference working from home. From what I can tell , you tube watching will be 90% increase from you while working from home. judging by your work etchics
Same... what happens when your job is social media? 100% NOT productive according to the software monitoring requirements. Or maybe they are watching a tutorial on "How-to" LOL.. which adds value to the employee and the job. Like how to craft an email to someone you don't like. HA! All jokes aside, if you can't trust your workers to work efficiently then it would seem that you are a poor manager since you have a lot of time to monitor other ppl's work habits instead of doing actual work.
I play RU-vid in the background while I work a lot just because it helps me focus on long repetitive tasks by giving my brain something enjoyable. I have adhd so sticking through with longer tasks is pretty hard. I also will tend to break up larger tasks into 20 min chunks and take a short break. That actually makes me more productive than suffering through it for hours. They don’t get that it makes someone like me more productive. At work they blocked any entertainment RU-vid videos from our network so I listen from my phone. It’s silly.
Same, I'm a Software Engineer. If any company I work for starts bringing up these sort of "statistics" it's a major red flag. I'll just quit the job and go to another company.
Has anyone ever thought that employees need to surf the web because there is no more “water cooler talk”? If you’re remote you don’t have the office social interactions. I thought the big goal was to make sure the work is done & done correctly. RU-vid is great for music & podcasts, just the background noise that we’re used to having.
Once I was instructed to install all systems with monitoring software in a company. The software took screenshots every 30 secs and my next task was to analyse those images with some ML modelling. I quit within a week. I was horrified seeing so many personal things/secrets of employees, including but not limited to explicit contents
I'm guess it maybe an employee that already has that stuff on there computer. Also there are some companies that require your camera to take pictures every so many seconds. So your a spouse or a child that's walking by undressed, can be caught on camera.
Oh, I got some things to say about this. 1. No human being can work that long unless they truly enjoy what they are doing and chances are people are working at your company because it pays well enough for them to care to show up every day to not die. 2. The software can be considered an invasion of privacy in someone's home if it's not written somewhere in the contract permitting it. 3. Following point 1, there's only so much work that needs to be done every week and it's because of that the model of work needs to change where as long as the work gets done, it doesn't matter what the employee does with their time. That's called micromanagement and you have terrible leadership. 4. As we progress into a WFH future, companies that keep trying to control people like this will find themselves having a much more difficult time getting employees for consideration in growing their business simply because the competition will give them more of what they want thus increasing productivity thus increasing revenue, everyone goes home happy.
You don't really "work" 8 hours a day. You do two blocks of 90 min high-focused work that equals to 3 hours. You use the other hours to get ready for those 2 90-min blocks and blow steam off.
One huge issue is the judgement from management. Sure, it seems like there’s downtime in between tasks, that could be important to track so that LEAN teams can tighten processes, and management can get an idea of how much additional work can be added to fill in that space, or how much time is really needed for a project so they can better account for cost. But the judgement should be dropped if the work is getting done. It’s not the employee’s fault that management gave more time than what the employee technically needs. Furthermore, what’s the end result here? Zero downtime? That sounds like the key ingredient for burnout and employee disgruntlement. People need to be people sometimes, and team rapport is helpful. If you burn out your workers then there will be more mistakes made. If your employees cannot establish friendships with each other then you’ll lose the spark of humanity in your work.
Employee monitoring software isn't a new thing. It's been around for several years now. 8:20 No, I didn't skip over the provision on employee monitoring. I am fully aware. It's just that if I refuse to work for any company that monitors IT activity, I won't be able to practically find work. We need a collective power to change this. Why is RU-vid considered unproductive? I might need to view RU-vid tutorial videos on my lab equipment for example. Why is inactivity considered unproductive? What if I need to think?
As a salary employee why does time even matter? I thought the difference from being an hourly employee is time is no longer relevant but the results of your output regardless of how long it takes!
Two things: 1. Always assume everything you do on your work computer is being monitored 2. I don’t see the point in this software. Employees either deliver value or they don’t. If they don’t, then they aren’t productive. Is monitoring their every move necessary?
I wasn’t micromanaged to this extent, but I do find that my company is trying to force me to be “visible” by not being able to go into private conference rooms, using a monitor (I never connect to mine even though they forced me to get one), and one manager used to randomly message me on IM and check how long I’d been idle. My current manager says as long as I get my work done she doesn’t care, but the policies at my job don’t show trust in employees at all.
to me all that matters is "is the employee meeting production standards and quality standard" if the the answer to both of those two questions is yes then why does it matter. No matter how old you are you still have a limited attention span. It is ridiculous to think that a person is going to be able to sit and work consistently for 8 hours and its equally ridiculous for employers to think that they have the right to watch you on camera while you are on the clock. If you got other stuff you need to do just make sure you do it on your personal computer. Never use company computers for personal business.
Setting aside the ethical and social implications, screenshots every 5 minutes? And everything being recorded including calls and keystrokes? These bossware companies need just 1 dataleak for A LOT of very confidential information to be leaked. At least normally individual apps would need to all have data leaks to for a lot of information to leak but with the amount of data this software collects you just need 1 leak for a cataclysmic leak of information.
I like the idea of collecting data to improve X, Y, Z things but not to spy on workers. Like, maybe the worker does something bad, because they have not slept well those days, or maybe they were hungry or the managers are too strict and so on. Thanks for the video!
I don’t like the new stealth mode of these employee monitoring systems. It seems very awful. However, we do use employee monitoring, but a person has to press a button and they’ll know they’re being tracked. They can take a break whenever they want but they have to hit the minimum hours and this has been invaluable to us as a company.
Laptops are not that expensive anymore…. And we have phones as well… I keep 2 laptops open when I remote work.. one is pure work, the one next to it is for my freelance side gig .. and my TV is on where I watch Netflix/RU-vid.. and my phone is there for all personal browsing.. just have a plan guys
I'm completely against this kind of tracking and anti-privacy things that are done for robots, not humans. I rejected jobs and some hiring team and HR argued and tried to justify this. I said if you need to track me then you don't want me to work and if you want work then you don't need to track, you will get your project done. I have my day-to-day tasks and I complete them and if I miss something, it is given a red mark and why I missed it. So, you see that you don't use some human-managed-robot-controlled-human-tracking software to get work done. A little bit of to-do, a deep work time, and get your things done. Also, I request others reading this to do work for such companies or teams. Be clear if you are a working person, not a time-pass person where work is suffering and targets are being missed. And most of the time, managers are not working and they are actually not being tracked by the main team behind that company.
I usually feel guilty about extended idle periods at work so I tend to finish later at times. I remember what it was like when I was unemployed and then underemployed after my Masters' program and don't want that to ever happen again.
Always put a tape on the laptop camera, work because there may be logs of everything you do and see yt on your phone just use laptop for work related stuff
I am an employer and I don’t want to track my employees. I use simple KPI (key performance indicators) directly related to their tasks to see how productive they are and reward them for it.
Government should make it's illegal for employees to stealthily collect and monitor your data that is not directly related to the work. And we should shame those micro-managing leaders (through social media and glassdoor, perhaps?)
i am a gov employee, We need to stay at the office from 7.30 am till 4 pm I do cheat stuff, i usually go out from the office than look for the coffee shop and work the meanwhile i realize this is not true. But I believe that i will be more productive outside more than in office which is full of distractions, gossiping and all negative stuff. I can do something in my way, without worrying about Sometimes, I do my things even better than people who stay. I didn't say my way is nice, but people have their own method.
This doesn't happen with just remote workers, I have seen coworkers looking at RU-vid and other websites while working in the office on company time. It's up to the Supervisor to ensure that office employees are doing there work! With remote workers, if an employee doesn't have paperwork done then the Supervisor needs to have a meeting to find out why and discuss this issue.
What about if they create permanent tags of biological behavioural markers or personality markers that can be maintained in the database and sold secretly to other companies? The companies may surely be doing this among themselves to avoid unknown random disruptions or competitions in order to keep themselves surviving decades after decades.
I use to watch RU-vid for hours everyday at my job. I was learning how to use video editing software to edit instructional manual for online use, for our customers. My supervisor loved I was doing this, it saved them thousands of dollars not having to send me to learn the software offsite. Or hire a editor at twice my salary.
Whenever you are on a company computer, it should be expected anything you do on it is saved and their digital property. Use your personal laptop, tablet, or phone instead.
LOL! Yeah I've done that. I had my own cubicle when I was working an engineering job a few years ago. Thing is the engineering manager was doing it too.😁 Sometimes he would come into my cubicle and show me a funny video he found. I kind of miss that job.
Back in 2007 people used to go on myspace, facebook, and evite from their cubicles and the boss respected it as long as they got their work done. Wtf is this?
Interesting thing is, my productivity is about equivalent to three people's workload. And I spend some time watching RU-vid, even if I am caught doing that, would I be told not to do that at all?
Its 2023 why are people assuming youtube video as if it was netflix, depends on the content and if i was listening market updates i dont think that would be just slacking of and i am actually listening to my interests while working. I am happy where i was in this company and they allowed youtub videos because management understood that youtube could help people answer or address most technical problems, they recognized the ability of youtube to enfoster learning on your own instead of it being seen as a distraction
I have been doing this since 2011 When I was a intern. Now - I still do it, and I am a people manager. Why would anyone care ? If this work is completed on time & promptly. Who cares. Anything else is micromanaging and that seldomly lasts.
Without looking at the software, there is zero chance to install random software on my laptop from work. I am not an administrator for my machine Now if you happen to have local access to install random software, and it is actually owned by the company. I'd suggest relooking at your HR documentation and policy for breaches etc. Totally not worth it... Just work elsewhere if they are doing this or maybe that industry is not for you.
Omg This is sooo 😆. Of course my boss knows I do it in front of her and my coworkers. We all do. Our jobs are not constantly. I have nothing but a bunch of grace periods where I watch Netflix or RU-vid shorts. Also apply to other jobs.
