We Aren't Even a Type One Civilization | David Kipping 

Wow, Prof. Jordan Peterson with Prof. David Kipping. Did not expect to see that on my 2024 Bingo card.

Oh boy I wasn't expecting these 2 together. More guests like this please.

Goodness, I first learned about the Dyson sphere from an episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation, back when I was a kid! (Kudos to anyone who remembers the episode). That was back in the days when writers actually knew how to write moving and beautiful human interest science fiction instead of the postmodern tosh we get today. How lucky I am to grow up steeped in that good writing and I believe that those influences shape my work today. May I do credit to them. Very much looking forward to the conversation . With love from Ruth Anne

Thank you, Dr. Peterson, for having such highly interesting guests. God bless you.

The physicist issac arthor would be another great interview on these subjects.

Thank you for the interview with Tommy. Mrs Peterson seem very much like a wonderful lady. 😊

Congrats on reaching 8M subs, Jordan!

Pleasantly surprised to see David on here! No doubt he will be attacked for it. I really enjoy Cool Worlds channel!

He seemed so genuinely happy to be asked about his work and his passion in it 😊

Geez Dr Peterson, your video/image quality is outstanding.

It’s so good to see two of my heros discussing!!!!

David Kipping is amazing. Can't wait for the whole podcast!

Oh, fun. I also enjoy David's channel, Cool Worlds.

I love the idea of the topic in this video! Interested in hearing the rest of the conversation!

I'm so glad Cool Worlds is on here! A really interesting channel I've followed for years! (less a fan of his podcast but love the channel itself.)

The concept of the Dyson Sphere or even a Ringworld structure has always intrigued me!

If there is no galactic empire, then we make one, FOR THE EMPEROR!

What a crossover!!! 🤯🤯😍🙌🏽

I love how Dr Peterson is interviewing people that are seen as 'undesirable' in the mainstream! Such as Tommy Robinson and Nigel Farage etc. The interviews are really eye-opening and insightful!

TYSM David Kipping and Dr.Peterson.

Always love watching cool worlds David explains his topics magnificently 👍

Thank you so much!

Ok was not expecting to find Dr. Kipping here, but hey, might give anew perspective on his work.

I just heard about your loss Jordan, and im sorry to hear. I know that i am blessed to have both of my parents, and i know that the day will come when i no longer have them. I wish you the best.

Two brilliant men/minds in the same room.. I can watch and listen to these guys chat all day

Thanks for discussing this topic.

this podcast is special man

I so badly want to have a conversation with Dr. Jordan Peterson. I'm a nobody really, but one can dream.

made me laugh 😂 In a empathic and relatable way.

This is incredible discussion... Thank you...

This is one of the intelligent and good to know... Thank you to both of you...

When talking about aliens, everyone is always interested in technology, but to me, the society aspect is far more interesting to me. I personally don't imagine a civilization becoming space faring like we imagine without everyone getting along. Now, how did they get to the point of "getting along"? Did they come to a logical none emotional agreement on issues, did one side basically kill off the opposing side, did they just leave them behind, did they have even the similar issues we have or do they still deal with the same things while becoming a type1,2,3 civilization?

what an awesome shirt Kipping is wearing. Keep up the great content, Dr. Peterson :)

Fantastic interview ❤

Great interview 👍

Thankful

thank you

Super Interesting interview!

3:50 is a keynote. That we move to a virtual world. And become a stranger to ourselves.

How did this show up on my feed? How incredibly interesting. I must indulge.

Astrophysics is a hell of an interesting topic

Well said ❤

I've been wanting to see Dr. Kipping more, someone suggested it to Joe Rogan to have him on and Joe said he would love to. We need to see this content more, especially on JRE

Where is the rest of this? I love Prof David Kipping

Ohhhhh I love "Cool Worlds"

Cool Worlds has so much intellectual goodness to offer. This is the sort of crossover of channels I have been waiting for!

Interview Isaac Arthur of Science and Futurism with Isaac Arthur next.

That is one Brilliant Human!!!!!

At this point, might as well try to get Dr. Peterson to interview Isaac Arthur. I honestly wish anyone well known would so his work could be brought to more people's attention.

Where is the whole podcast with this guy, hasn't been released?

Kipping and Peterson. Wow. Seriously i need to go back to school. Because i predict subject matter experts on the philosophy of science. Are going to be in huge demand in the next couple of years.

There’s was a research paper examining the possibilities of Dyson sphere like objects. Very interesting stuff.

I gave a speech on this topic like when was in high school. Nobody understood and called me a nerd

David Kipping! Awesome 😊

I must argue that there is NO such thing as “wasted heat” coming from a laptop. There is always a cat nearby enjoying the “wasted heat” 😂 🐈

Love you studio condo Jordon ❤😊

I really believe that intelligent life in the universe is extremely rare. I do believe they are out there, though, and it would be so exciting to discover them.

Dang you got 8 mil subs now lol. Didn't even notice. Your planted a seed to change my life, now Im getting catechized in the Orthodox Christian Church, thanks! Will check out this full episode on DW

It seems likely that if you are of the technology capacity to create a Dyson sphere, there are likely better power sources.

Like to see Dr Peterson interview Bishop Mar Mari Emmanuel. Off topic but that would be a Very Exciting dialogue especially with the Gospel series on its way. Very excited about that.

type 1 ... able to use all the energy arriving and on /in their planat. like ...waves, volcanos, wind, sunlight ... even earthquakes.

That's a wild combover

It’s amazing how science fiction influences actual science.

Sir Fred's Hoyle's alien speech says it all.

Awesome 😎

I've been fascinated w/ the Kardashev scale ever since kurzgesagt mentioned them. It's fascinating where humans will be in technology & space hundreds of million years from now. Too bad, I'll never see it. So, I can only imagine.

The ending music is so good. Song nem?

Firstly, just how much matter would be required to build a harvesting network for solar system, not to say a galaxy; secondly what for would you need so much energy; thirdly, we are not all-knowing, more advanced civilizations might have discovered alternative methods of harvesting/generating energy which wouldn't require such an excess. The very fact that Jordan listens to this with a straight face is quite telling. I am under impression that it's an attempt to build an image of a modern era "philosopher", without being at forefront of the science, like the ancient ones were.

Was just researching this earlier. Crazy how the universe works 😂😂😂💯💯💯

we are savages! have you heard about Western family courts? I was sadistically abused, not allowed warm clothing and enough sleep when pregnant, called names, told that now that we were married there would be no sex as,(it later turned out, mistresses are for that, (human trafficking!). My husband hid mistresses even during the wedding day in a church and then ordered me to turn a blind eye or he'd take my baby off me with bribe "as everyone is on sale" despite me being like a single mum and him having no interest in family life and often disappearing with lovers for days on end,mobile off. When I finally fled, the court gave him full child custody of the baby as "the mother is negative towards the father" for trying to tell them about the abuse,but was aggressively shouted at to stop. One criminal court senior judge who was not even working in family law or ever in our town, turned up for the preliminary hearing, to stage the case at the start. He screamed at me, agressively interrogated me himself, tried to force me to admit something I knew was not true as it was evident he had planned on staging the case based on that "admission" and when I refused to "admit" despite his aggressiveness, he simply fabricated in the judgement I had admitted it,calling it "my finding for the main judge", which was terrifying. Someone to do something that criminal and evil to a baby and an abused mother must have done it many times and was part of some racket,many believe! The CAFCASS officer fabricated the whole report, I believe for £5000 bribe,I know why I am saying this. I obtained evidence from the police, SS etc for her fabrication, and even found,accidentally, another abused mum in the same situation,young children taken away from her while the same officer had fabricated the report. We took the evidence to the CAFCASS manager who told us she could not be prosecuted as she'd just retired. Then the abuser dumped the now depressed and gaunt baby on strangers hundreds of milies away,worked abroad and my son grew up like an orphan. The abuse of that child haunts me daily and I often cry, 20 years on.I was also ordered to forgo my divorce settlement or may never see my depressed baby again,and thrown out on the street childless and penniless while, i believe, the lot shared my money in the corruption. Then I learnt I was one of tens of thousands of victims,all gagged,including the media in charge of whom are often the family and mates of the top judges. And those are globally-orchestrated crimes in all Western countries where the judges, independent and supervised by no one, collude with each other to set trends for the people yet hide the truth for them to abuse as many as possible,and milk some for cash,many believe. All the whistleblowers are immediately sacked. CAFCASS officers regularly fabricate reports,some are thought to do it for bribe and also jealousy towards the mothers, bitches,to destroy their lives. Some,like mine,are so evil, that they abuse the young children, destroy them just to destroy the mother and follow us around the court and laugh in our faces knowing they will never be brought to justice as the very top judges ignore the criminalities. When I tried to expose the criminality on an industrial scale in my case, President of The High Court personally saw me to intimidate me or I would regret it,despite admitting that the case was horrific. All journalists ,including the one who wrote this article,,MPs, most academics, British human rights lawyers, policymakers, top global feminists ,First ladies who preach women's right to poor countries, like some lying rock stars, etc have known about these atrocities,orchetsrated in all Western countries with colluding unaccountable judges under strict secrecy, some for decades. Estimated 10m victims across the West in the last 50 years! Child sale,corruption,sadism, shocking abuse of basic human rights, child abuse, thousands dead by suicide- their families gagged, the public having children not allowed to know about it so that as many fall into the trap as possible. We are talking about divorcing a sociopath, a crook,serious sadistic abuser who hates family life, who offers bribe and abuses his family to extremes,not ordinary men who have decency. Unfortunately, sociopaths,psychopaths,the scum of humanity always claw their wat to the top everywhere and destroy lives. Metaphysically, they are apparently, led by the Satan and will regret it all when they cross over as there are no secret and our every move and thought are recorded and there will be a price to pay,even for minor things,let alone something as serious as this. Things we do when no one is watching are the most dangerous for us in eternity as God is watching at all times and every single emotion we caused in others we will relive ourselves,but apparently,millions of times magnified. It sends shivers down my spine what the abusers of my baby and I, some of whom are with bombastic titles now, for their criminalities) are going to go through when they pass. You cannot think of a more tragic and wasted life than one of theirs!

The logic flaw in the Kardashev model is that it does not take energy efficiency under consideration. A supercomputer of the 1990s used 20 MWh of energy to do what a modern smartphone does with 5 Wh. Our civilisation is currently generating enough computational power to require the entire power of a star in terms of computers from 1990s. A truly advanced civilization will do what we do using a fraction of the energy and generating no waste heat.

I love Cool Worlds!

When I saw that image I in the Thumbnail I thought this was going to be a conversation about the form of Angles and how they actually looked

I think it's important to understand that if scientists do find undeniable evidence of extraterrestrial life, especially intelligent life, that knowledge will not be released to the public. It would, quite literally, flip society upside down.

Did he say "susistics"? 😄 That actually works.

Big like

We are currently a negative 3 type civilization teetering on a razors edge of immolation.

Jordan, get Enoch Burke on your podcast.

Alternarively we have to remember that everything we see in space has thousands of years of delay on it, and we could be an early civilization.

Wow, Kipping is far left and proud of it. Surprising he'd even talk to Peterson.

Meta verse is becoming my favorite Fermi solution

What skin care routine is Peterson practicing. I mean I've watched him transform over the years and I'm curious

Thoughts are grand yet the study is premature. It's like tapping on a melon. Oh simple ones, I love and embrace your trials.

Jordan Peterson is embodying the energy of the all grown up lion king, Simba.

You should watch the movie Virtual Revolution 2047 if you want to see a "netiverse" potential future... It's not an entirely unlikely prediction of a movie, it could turn out to be as much of a documentary as Idiocracy.

There's always someone smarter in the room

Why dont they just say they have no idea.

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The internet, online sites, and applications have created connectivity not unlike that of a conscious global neural network, allowing humankind to harness the intellect of the entire planet. It could also be argued that this is an essential piece of the Type 1 Civilization puzzle.

We're considered type 0.7 ish civilization at this point in time, FWIW

Shoutout to Greydon Square.

Extrapolating what humanity might be able to accomplish if given hundreds of millions of years is beyond most people's comprehension to begin with. For some reason a lot of people innately assume we as a species will simply self-destruct and as such don't even bother to entertain any idea of human progression, and push for regression back into the caves. Human civilization has already built grand things over the course of generations, and that continues to happen; and this is I should remind people in spite of people who will and have burned many things to the ground. Plenty of ruins of great cities and structures across the planet as evidence of those events. Yet in spite of that, civilization pushes ever forward. The doomsayers have been loud, but those who push for the future have always been louder.

But we may be the only beings capable of even conceptualizing of one.

I miss the old free JP interviews on YT

So as an amateur Astronomer I have the equipment to backup existing exo-planet research data. The problem is I don't have the time. People would be amazed at what you can achieve with an EQ Goto mount and a decent Telescope and Astro camera. I honestly recommend getting into the hobby to supply masses of data to these kind of studies. Take it and go for it people!

Interesting...

What about superconductors? We know those don't emit any radiation. I would assume a civilization type 1 would have mastered superconductors since it directly affects energy usage

Dr. Peterson is Type One, the rest of we chimps, not so much. I am not an animal! lol. Amazing stuff in astrophysics and astronomy these days. I almost went to U of HI for astronomy a few years back. Couldn't afford it. Ended up in journalism lol. Techno-signatures research is especially fascinating.

the question should not be "is there life on other planets" the question should be "is there other living planets" apparently certain animals can communicate over thousands of miles using low frequency and this planet is littered with species that go on their merry way then seem to me up during the mating season which most do not think about. we call this planet a living planet but don't go deeper into the statement. Why is it a living planet? most would conclude its living because there are trillions of lifeforms coexisting. My point is is all of these creatures are living and have some form of consciousness then why can't a planet? and the relevance to this thought is if we concentrate our efforts and explore that theory and maybe just get lucky and discover the planet has a consciousness we could be able to determine if the planet is sending out to the vastness of space to other living planets.

Jordan, there is something new in corporate America that denigrates " individual heroics". I would like to see someone interview someone in corporate America to describe how this is a good thing. To me it's quite Marxist and makes those of us who go above and beyond feel guilty about our success. When I'm talking about is in basic corporate structure anymore.