We NEED To Talk About New World Aeternum 

I just had a flashback that New World was that MMO where you could write code in global chat to make giant bacon icons appear on everyone's chatbox, or item links that made anyone mousing over it crash their game.

Had an absolute blast during this past weekend "beta". It's amazing how those small QoL changes made it feel much better. Excited to come back to a fresh server with our console friends!

I’ve been wanting a console mmo badly. This is the closest thing to an old school mmo for me.

Didn't mention the echoing mining sound that is still to this day the best sound effect in video games! lol I'll jump in to give it a whirl. Native controller means better steam deck experience and the steam deck needs MMOs!

I played the Beta this passed weekend and I think it was great. A few small hiccups, but not worth complaining about. I skipped out on New World 3 years ago. Now I have paid for the Steam game so I can go straight into Aeternum on October 15. Great video! Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

I am going to put 1000 hours into this on console. I've played on PC but I'm more of a console gamer so I'm very excited. The combat is just great

As a console player who missed out on the launch of this game 3 years ago, and being bummed about not being able to play it, I’m highly anticipating the release of this game next month

As someone who played this game more than 6000 hours, this new version brings nothing new. If you are a new player, you should enjoy it a lot. If you are an old player, well... you can swim now. I played PVP at high level, wars against the best companies, and that was a blast. But still the same OPR map, the same weapons, and nothing planned... So enjoy this new version but it's like going back with your ex : fun at start but after that you remember why you're not with her anymore :)

I’m so excited to play it

I'm hoping that the higher concurrent player count on servers helps with the longevity as well. launching with less than 2k players per server meant that it didn't take much of a lull in the player base for it to feel like the servers were dying. Now that they're roughly 4.5k+, it should really help the influence races to stay fun for longer.

New world is the best MMO that no one is playing, including me. The changes they've made since launch made it so much better but no one gave it a second shot. It's my go-to Halloween game, love the world in the fall. So much fun.

This game was built for console. PC gamers will stay moved on, but I think console gamers have a long-term enjoyable experience ahead of them here. Our MMOs are limited, and like it or not, New World is a great casual MMO experience. I think this will do well.

I think the most important question would be how many people will agree to do pvp in order to have access to the biggest gear... certainly not me.

I enjoyed the beta so much more than the OG game. I played on my PS5 this time and the dualsense controls/haptics were done very well

The comments genuinely upset someone is sharing their thoughts are so confusing

New World will have a lot for new players. It's a fun game with a ton of potential. It always has been. But it's also had a lot of issues that has caused a lot of frustration within it's fanbase. Fortunately the devs have done a TON of work to fix many of those issues. The New World we had at launch is not the same game we have today. It's so much better and the new players can get a lot of fun out of it. Unfortunately, the PC player base, especially those that have been playing (even off and on) over the last couple years, have a completely different situation. They've been through the rough process of the game discovering itself and becoming what it is today. They've also gone through about a year straight of content drought all while being promised by the devs that this year would be bigger than last year, "a lot is coming, just wait until the big news months down the road." Then the big news drops and the PC players aren't even the target audience. The game is coming to console, that's the big news they've been waiting so long for. Part of one zone is getting reworked - not a new zone, PART of an existing zone. The item level cap increases adding yet another new item upgrade system and they're adding a controversial target lock system. The PC players feel burned, and rightly so. It's great that the game is coming to consoles, but the situation around it is unfortunate. The community has been regrettably toxic due to all the issues the game has had and I think AGS has created a situation to make it even worse; Like the oldest child resents the younger for stealing away the favor of the parents and leaving them feeling neglected... I can see many of the existing player base resenting the new console players coming in. I, too, feel like there's an expiration date on the game for me. I actually quite like the game but between the content drought and the false and grossly misleading promises.. I just feel too burned, like my trust was broken too many times. I no longer feel very motivated to play at the moment. I'm hoping for the best, though, and will come back to see how things feel after the update goes live. It's definitely a game worth playing if you haven't. New players will likely enjoy it a lot.

Game feels a lot more polished and has more to do. I could see returning players actually sticking around and new players having a great time.

I think the game will actually end up selling pretty good on console considering that consoles don't really have that many MMOs to choose from. The biggest mmos on console have been BDO, ESO and FF14 for a while so this will be a nice welcoming change to the scene.

Console has absolutely near zero solid MMOs. We have ESO, BDO and FF14 that are our staples for the genre, Currently BDO is struggling and the playerbase is looking for anything new to go to. So new world and TNL are gonna be fighting for the playerbase. Meanwhile FF14 is just probably owning the market right now with everything it has going for it.

I remember you making a video about you being wrong about MMOs. For me and other console players, this is brand new for us and what I’ve been looking for in an MMO. It doesn’t make me level absurdly fast. I’m in no rush to get to endgame. Like a single player experience, I’m looking forward to doing all the MSQ, side quests, leveling my skills and weapon mastery and anything else they will add. Right now, Aeternum doesn’t seem like the games that fall into the category of that video you made. (And least for players like me.)

I'd need to see an increase in just the basic variety of enemies and quests. When I played at launch I got to about level 30 and then realized besides the main story, there was literally only 2 quests. "go to X location and kill 8 mobs" or "go to x location and loot 6 chests". It seemed like someone had just procedurely generated them all in like an hour with only 2 parameters. And there was also maybe only 12 enemy models in the whole game. You'd go to a all the different cool bioms, but you'd just fight the same red magicy dead sailor or farmer over and over

My PS5 has been wanting an mmo for a looong time "eso" dropped the ball.. so I am looking forward to Throne & Liberty .. and to see what New World has to offer.

Going to be so much fun! Head into the cross play server I’ll see u all there

Enjoyed it at launch on pc. Feels like a bait and switch at this point.

This game will do very well on the console. AGS will need to bring in new content within 6 months of release and fix auto aim to aim assist and they will be golden.

as someone who plays mmos for immersion and the journey, this game feels amazing and im excited to keep playing on console in october

Looking forward to seeing how it plays out as it is now getting introduced to console players which will boost the player base. The game has made improvements and it still fun (I’m also going to start a new character on the new servers). FFXIV did an overhaul after with Reborn and is at the top for mmos. Not that NW is in the same sentence, but for players on console that did not get to experience it specially during the huge player base, there’s a possibility that being also on console could do great for the game (I mean 10+ years later there is still a community that plays DC Universe Online that keen the lights on for that studio)

that extraction zone sounds fun and a cool idea

This game looked and felt awesome, totally going to jump in when it drops

I'm gonna give it a try this looks cool

I'll never play this game but I'll drop a comment and a like to support you Force.

also, you can do everything singleplayer, any dungeon at anytime, thats good

Man I wish Elder Scrolls Online had the combat and movement of New World...

I mean it took them 3 years to swim.

My advice to any returning PC players that stopped playing very early on in new worlds lifespan. Wait until you go through the free brimstone Sands quest line update before you make the decision to buy the angry Earth DLC or not.

New world has been in beta for 4 years

I'm pretty sure console players both enjoyed the beta and will play beyond the month mark on release. As to whether Amazon will support it beyond then is the tricky thing

Honestly my favorite thing about new world is that the end game progression doesn't require thousands of hours or being endless. It's def present, there is an end game, and it's fast paced, so far as mmos are concerned. For like a 1 or 200 hour experience it's great!

"Expectations for New World's future." Me: What future?

What a bittersweet game. So much potential yet disrespected players over the years.

It'll be nice to try out this game for the first time on console. There will be a large population of new players so it'll feel fresh without having to be one of the many guine pigs that had to deal with the disastrous launch 3 years ago. Hoping into an MMO at the launch of the first expansion is always the best balance of freshness and quality.

5k hours here, console would absolute enjoy it and there is so much to do from: PVE - leveling 1-65 - gearscore 100-725 max - leveling profession (1-250) - crafting, refining, gathering (a lot of farming...trust me you'll spend a lot of time farming/gathering especially fresh start) - 12 dungeons, mutation dungeon (m1-m3) - Territory Corrupted Invasion (Fort defence) 50 man v Horde - 2x 10 man raid (hatchery & winter forge) - 1 raid boss 20 man (wurm boss) - 1 endgame raid (instance dungeon-like raid 3-4 main bosses) PVP - 1 OPR (battleground 20v20) - 2 arena maps (3v3) - 50v50 faction wars/territory wars (12 territory ownable) - Free For All zone @Cutlas Key - Influence Run open world PVP Event - Seasonal Event (raid boss-like event, gathering event etc) think there is like 3-4 different events year long Social/exploration - 15 territory maps to explore (Brimstone map are the biggest i believe, Elysian Wilds vibrant colors like avatarish lol) - New World has the best EMOTES by far! who is with me!? :P - andddddddd proximity voice chat is funny af.. aight, enjoy the game and see you in Aeternum. Not a dev btw

I played at launch and suffered through bugs, dupping, and the water mark. Also played on the fresh start. If you like gathering and crafting. It’s the best mmo for that. PvP (open world) is fun. FF14 is story. I’ll be doing the fresh starts with the console players and loving every minute.

This “re-release” isn’t designed to bring back PC players that have already invested hundreds or thousands of hours. This is designed to bring in new players, specifically console players, that don’t often get to experience an actual MMORPG like this. People like me. I played WoW from closed beta until Mists. EverQuest before that. I’ve said for years that if they ever brought Wow to console I would try it again. New world is just what I’ve been looking for. I put 40hrs into the beta last weekend and will happily invest a thousand hours into the release in Oct. If the global chat last weekend is any indication, I hope veteran PC players stay far away, they were extremely toxic and offer nothing to the experience we’re looking for. I’m very excited. If they can get the same amount of hours from new players with this release that they got from PC players 3 years ago, this will 100% be a win for them.

I think people who play optimally hate the game, while people who enjoy the journey to, as well as the endgame will get a lot more out of it.

Please play this game at launch if your reading this it was amazing the first time round and it’ll be even better this time the world is alive and beautiful the PvP is plentiful and engaging. The noise of people felling trees and mining ore echo through the mountains it’s glorious and they really did create something special.

It is going to be huge. Console players have been waiting a LONG time for this. Can't wait!

How can we say that "MOUNTS NEED TO BE BASE GAME" even louder though?

I played on pc a couple yrs ago and got to lvl60 and quit. I played this past weekend on xbox x and yes, while its still new world at its core, it felt like a brand new experience. It felt more polished and complete. I think the biggest issue people are noting is the lack of content. This update or what im referencing as a revamp of the game is why theyve not added additional content. After its release, im hopeful well get more content. New world advertised as a game as a high pvp focused game, if people want a ton of pve content, this may not be the game for them so much.

I have nothing bad to say about new world. It’s a great game as long as you have a good group playing it with from zero to endgame. Dungeons and OPRs are fun. Guild PvP is too gated imo in games that are older than 1 year. Endgame will require a lot of grinding to get bis gear for certain builds. Yes there are multiple bis on top of mastering that archetype. $60 is not bad for the content. Never regretted my purchase.

To me New World always felt like a modern and yet extremly scuffed version of Guild Wars 2 in a Greedfall setting...

The beta was good, I'm waiting for October 15th to play again, the only downside for me is that we can't dive underwater and there is no underwater collecting, swimming was nice.

I had a great time playing the game on Xbox. Never played it on PC , will pick it up in Oct.

Open beta/PTR, it's not the first time a game has a testing phase for bigger patches! Given the single player content I might give this a shot again. But there are a few other games I am playing so it will depend on whether I am still playing those.

Not a lot of mmos for console... this is gonna go awesome. I love NW

As a console player I absolutely loved the beta...I think ppl are underestimating just how much console players want and need something like this. All the old pc players constantly put it down but I wouldn't be surprised at all if it's huge on console.

It's hard to give AGS yet another chance and expect anything to change, when NW had a HUGE launch success, which they triaged, but then as the numbers tapered off, they didn't seem reinvest what they surely got from that launch in order to keep players. So now, we're re-launching, and the "hope" is that it's a smash hit again so that hopefully AGS will actually put more effort into the game long-term....it's just kinda deja-vu feeling. Should we expect them to reinvest in their 3-year-old game that will get a burst of players from the NW:A release and then quickly taper off, or just go back to sparse, lackluster updates that don't address the remaining core issues of the game? And just put their effort into the LotR MMO instead? Business-wise, I think the answer is obvious. Anyway, great points Force as usual. Hope they figure something out to keep this game going in a healthy way for at least a few more years.

The beta reminded me what I loved. I only stopped playing cause I had other games and just felt like I couldn’t catch up with all the new mechanics. Excited to see what AGS does moving forward

As a casual gamer, new world is awesome. I only do open world activities like resource gathering.

I will tell you it was super nice to feel the servers be alive again and made me want to replay it again. I liked the faster leveling in Aeternum and had a lot of fun. If it shows anything the console players will add a lot of longevity if they stay.

All i hear when I see a "free for all" area that doesn't stop people from grouping is that its going to be their version of the wilderness from OSRS. The only real difference is that its required for maxing your gear, but is also a bit safer than the wilderness cause you don't drop the majority of your loot, just the stuff you got from the zone itself. I think it will be fine in the end

I played this mmo for first time on xbox and i must say this is best mmo right now on consoles, much better then eso and black desert in terms of visuals and gameplay. Idk about endgame, but that leveling experience should be fun.

There has been now 3 different new player leveling experience but zero fucks given about the endgame loop lmao. Yeah no wonder players dwindle very quickly with every new content release, as rare as they are. And if you wanted to grind all the professions to max level in order to "max out" your character, well, at every chance they get they nerf the experience gain further and further therefore make it a lot less enjoyable.

U kno me and the boys are gonna be in Discord coordinating together as a large group to ruin the open zone “FFA” PVP experience for everyone else 😂

As someone who played at launch and did feel a bit burned i am a bit hesitant. New World did some stuff really well, but good lord did it do so much wrong too. the ability to inject code into the chat to spam images or create links that could crash other players games, duplication glitches that had the games economy destroyed for literally months, invincibility glitches, a busted reporting system that saw a bunch of victims of exploits and abuse getting banned from the game instead of the perpetrators, mtx costumes that would cause the servers to crash when equppied. if i hear good things about the update after its officially launched maybe I'll give it another shot but it would have to be a hell of a change to impress me at this point

Im hoping this will be good. Have 600 hours in New world since launch. Havent played since 2022. It has so much potential. I love the world. So fun to just run around and do mining and stuff, with the occasional pvp out in the world.

The combat looks so much better than elder scroll's old dusty combat system. The devs need to take notes from each other.

I played the console beta. It was so much fun. I’m super looking forward to the console release for this.

Yeah, you hit the nail on the head at around 15 minutes. I was mildly interested as a pc player who got burnt at launch, but not for getting charged for angry earth and aeternum.

I have played it ever since it came out on pc even alpha and beta it definitely had a rocky start and it still has its problems but the open beta on console was the most fun I have had on a mmo on console with friends since final fantasy 14.

Honestly i like New World, and i hope its finally more enjoyable now. the most important there is no p2w!

Question, why does everyone assume everything that wasn't playable in beta is left the same as current PC? If everything that was playable in beta is overhauled, I don't understand why there is a general assumption that nothing else is overhauled. Seems like a dumb assumption, but maybe I'm missing something.

Movement & mounts were my main reason why I quit, shortly after launch. People who were very loudly advocating against mounts really hurt the game for the first years in my opinion. Glad they added them a while ago & improved the movement system now too. Might check it out again. Thanks for the video!

Yeah I am not paying another 30 bucks for New World. If there is a sale at around 10 I might check it out again in the future.

Me: “can you just make freakin controller support, please!” AG: “Here’s a whole new rerelease of the game!” Me: “… F*ck you.” Gamers, we need to realize that Amazon gaming is not, nor have they ever been for the consumer. Lost Ark, not consumer friendly. New World, not consumer friendly. Blue Protocol, shut down. What a piece of shit move to lock an entire mount system behind ANOTHER paywall, after players have been begging for it. They don’t fix shit we ask for that KILLS server communities. What has AG done for us!? Gamers!?

I played the first beta for PC and played on launch for a few months. I quit because I really just wanted to play on my Console. I knew it was built to be on Console and I was like welp I'll just wait one day it'll come. And now here it is. So I'm glad and will be playing on Launch.

Me and my gf played it during the beta and we both loved it. I'm excited for the release!

The main reason why I love new world is the combat system and how it requires some skill and strategy rather than just select an enemy and fire. Target locking just ruins the whole game

The price will really make me think before buying, I played the game a lot before and not sure if 60$ will worth it

Overall this game seems great from your point of view. Very few negatives mentioned in this video.

New World is the game that I wanted from launch to be my new "lifestyle MMO", ie a game I keep coming back to all the time like WoW. Sadly it didn't seem so but the skeleton of the game is still so solid -- the combat, the vibes, the music, the large scale PvP, the deep crafting and gathering, it's all fantastic. I just wished it was a better game. Hopefully this will be a significant improvement and they can retain a decent player base! Key will be them fixing the major endgame issues, such as the massive wealth/power consolidation by a few powerful guilds

I'm excited to try this on console.

Also even just looking through the comments it's wild the response NW veterans get lately. Same attitude as AGS basically telling us all to F off, stop complaining, and let the new kids in. No-one has been gatekeeping or nit picking....it's folks that have spent years with this company managing the game and trying to let people know what they're getting into. If AGS changes their tune and puts a ton of support into NW, everyone will be happy, including vets. But after years of lackluster support, new folks should know that it's much more likely that AGS is just pumping a relaunch to make some money back and will probably put it right back on the backburner soon as the numbers start going down. IDK, it's wild to see people defending a giant company blindly and pushing against folks that endured through the hard times

Very excited for this game as a console player. I've never played a MMO before but the beta was tons of fun

Just FYI, targetlock/aimbot is getting an insane amount of backlash and AGS already acknowledged it. Does that mean they actually listen to the playerbase and get rid of it? who knows. but yeah.. not great..hoping it goes.

War and Opr is the endgame. Mainly war. Competitive wars are literally the best part about new world. All the pve before is just so you can get geared to war over territory

I bet they had the data on where most people quit the game and it probably showed that most people dont even get to endgame and thats why they mostly worked on the leveling. I started playing the game 3 times two times with new chars that i only played until level 30 and then i played one of my lvl 30 chars and got to like 55 or somethingg. To me the leveling was fun, but at some point it really gets repetitive and they dont really add a lot of new stuff between beginning and max lvl. Also leveling the farming skills is tideous for a lot of them.

So they added the Wilderness from Runescape? That's kinda sick.

I love this game.. I'll play it until the servers get turned off. PVP auto lock NEEDS to be turned off. New World is game when you can have 'Not as good of gear" and by skill you can beat someone with better gear. Thanks for doing this review Force!

I agree. The reason I stopped playing New World and eventually uninstalled it was because they paywalled access to mounts. Something that should have been in the game since day 1.

Feels good, different!

Re-doing onbaording experience is exactly the kind of thing that resonates with the Amazon way of doing ecommerce - super easy to get buy in for. Not sure it actually helps the game though

I remember mining for hours. All night... Glad there's more reason to play the game now!

I feel like New World will be successful as an MMO just due to the limited options console players have for decent MMOs.

As a PC player who hasn't played since the desert update, I'm kind of excited. I loved the game, but fell off every time I hit around endgame like you said. But I've had some amazing "mmo" encounters with people in New World that I just haven't had in other MMOs, and the gathering and crafting system is still one of my favorites. I'm looking forward to the fresh start servers and welcoming in the console players. The target lock makes sense, but I don't really like it. It takes a lot of the skill out of PvP. Ranged was already OP as hell in PvP, and now it'll just be more so.

New World Aeternum October 15th, I expect it'll give me 3 weeks or so of good fun. Then Brighter Shores November 5th, for years, hopefully.

I’m a pc player and vet but I’m still excited for it. Will be playing on a FS server and will hope and pray they don’t think this is enough and wait a year to do another rehash

Something on my mind is haven't they released 2 raids already? And aren't those technically now 'outdated' and not even updated to drop relevant gear? I'm not 100% on that but they should update content like that to give more endgame activities/rewards/incentives. *I haven't played since going hard for a few months on initial release, just things I've heard/seen discussed. This game has so much potential I hope they do right by it this go round.

Back when i got this game i sat in server queues the entire time and never played with my friends...

Not addressing teaming for PvP island at the start is a huge miss, but not surprised because it's AGS.