We Need To Talk About The Kia EV9... 

Loving the way this video was put together, great content Tommy! Thanks for having us tag along. We definitely agree with you, square looks good, except for the Nissan Cube 😅

They're selling in California right now, GT line fully loaded for $68k, that's a great deal.

Its been a while since I watched TFL, love the music and the up close shots of the functionality (adhering to "show dont tell"). Also the humor seems to be amped up. And i liked the guest presenter. A+ to all the changes

Lots of great specs, features and it looks great. We will have yo wait and see what the durability of it is but they did a good job addressing the needs. Great video

When you quote the price of the EV9, or any legacy vehicle, you have to keep in mind that those prices are BEFORE going through a dealer and all their addons and markups. Remember, the true price of a vehicle is called the INVOICE price, which is what a dealer pays (roughly 25% below the MSRP). And since autodealer association bought politicians force legacy auto to only sell to dealers, making them nothing more than "flippers", you have to pay the dealers cut. When you buy a Rivian or a Tesla, the price you see online is the price you pay. Meaning it's the invoice price. No addons, no markups, because there is no middlemen wanting "their cut".

Very upbeat review. Didn’t get to test drive yet since they are all reserved. Enjoyed the collaboration videos; keeps the reviews fresh.

Another great design by Kia! Its definitely a head turner, great tech, and the interior looks better than anything you would find under 80K. Most definitely punching above its weight class!!!!

It looks like a jumbo Kia Soul and I will die on that hill (and I am one of the few people who appreciates the Soul).

Great review. The snark was strong, which I approve of and encourage. Thanks for talking about the cargo capacity w/3rd row up and down. Excellent work!

In minnesota, you can get the EV9 wind for about 60,000 dollars pretty good price

I saw my first other EV9 on the road yesterday and I yelled "yoooo!!!!!" and waved like a maniac.

I just took delivery of my EV9 gt line i bought it online for 71800$ from a kia dealer in Maryland so they are being sold below msrp you just have to shop around 😊

Another great video. Nicely presented and chock full of pertinent information.

Excellent video and great Sofyan cameo! Very funny and entertaining and insightful. I own an R1S Rivian and I’d say these are similar sized but aimed at different markets. The Riv is more premium maybe. It’s faster which isn’t all that useful. It does have more range at top spec which does matter. It is also more off road capable but again only if that matters to you. To drive around, go on road trips, and haul your 4 kids, the EV9 appears to do so more efficiently with more features for $15K less.

Tommy w the professional 2024 production! No goofy unplanned conversation about shoes or bugers just great content. Keep it up Tommy

I was outside walking my dogs watching this video. Right as you mentioned the Nissan cube one drove by. It was a moment

Apparently Kia is offering $7500 discount for US market vehicles now so it doesn’t qualify for the tax credit but still offers the same feel.

Well, this is definitely a different format than I'm used to seeing from this channel. That's not a bad thing. Production value 👍

The collab we didn't know we needed, but the one we wanted.

Saw one of these on the road and they look so cool in person

You’re in Napa! I recognized that plaza and scenery immediately. I used to live right around that corner.

The editing was tremendous and the jokes top notch. Tommy. Let’s go bud.

Looks like you were testing in Northern California?

Can you test the range for getting to and from Colorado skiing?

I can tell the differences in editing for this vid than usual and I think it’s very good! Just be careful with choice of and use of background music lol. Sometimes can be a bit much.

Good, comprehensive review. I'm curious to know how driving feels with a full passenger load. I see this as potentially a great vehicle for families.

I think dealers will make or break this one. If its anything like trying to buy a Telluride they won't actually stock the lower trim model, but it'll stay "sold" in inventory to get people in. If they only have top trims, then the Rivian R1S just makes more sense, not much more for higher range, more offroadability, and more cargo space.

This is going to eat into the sales of RIVIAN R1S of those that want a SUV 3 row option. But don’t care about air suspension adjustable height for off road use.

Interesting style on this tfl video

Enjoyable video. The EV9 looks like a giant LEGO model. Maybe the kids of the parents who are considering one will love the styling. It's $20K more than a comparable Telluride at every step of the way, from even the base trim all the way up to the loaded trim. I'm just not sure what the folks at Kia were thinking on this one. And I'm not sure who's going to buy it either, even if they want a big, three row SUV that's an EV. Oh well, maybe they'll have some good lease deals so you can rent one for a couple of years....

are you at a cali winery?

Getting closer to what I want, probably not interested in a high option level. My ranges are short, and I don’t need/want heated seats etc. (Hawaii)

When you get all wheel drive, do you have to get the bigger battery? If so, that price increase makes sense. If not, they are way overcharging to add a motor and some wiring.

So after optioning it with what you actually want, just by the Rivian R1S

These are tempting, looking for a 3 row ev for my wife but the price for a well optioned one is so close to the Rivian, which I think has some serious advantages. Kia interior looks really nice though. Where it seems to lack is the trunk space, frunk space, power and a little on range.

Absolutely gorgeous vehicle. I don't think I can bring myself to pay such a premium over a comparable ICE vehicle though.

Something that I suggest that you include on your EV testing, is to test that the brake lights active when you use one pedal driving. I’ve seen other videos where people demonstrated that the car they were driving does not active the brake lights during one pedal driving. That is a safety issue as far as I’m concerned.

I’m glad you emphasized the price. My experience with Hyundai and Kia dealers is that they will have 1 base trim that’s alsways “sold”. They advertise that one. When you get to the dealer it’s constant upselling. No thanks. I’m going for an $80k Tesla before I step into another Hyundai dealership.

It's not the way it looks - it's the fact that the boxy design gives it more SPACE. 🕺

Any news about upcoming GT version of EV9?

Nice looking vehicle

I'd love to see an honest comparison between a comparably equipped EV9 and Telluride. Putting aside any arguments about the environment, which is the better purchase? My wife and I really like the idea of the EV9 and went to a local dealer and checked it out and liked it in person. But comparing the EV9 to a telluride makes it a tough sell when you account for the $15k or so price premium. It would take quite a few years for the cost to even out based on home charging and lack of oil changes, etc. So is the EV9 inherently nicer/better as a vehicle?

This is great

I wanted to love this car. I have an R1S on order but I was let down by the range on the well spec'd model.

Great video I like this EV

Smart Alec-y review!

the eagle @ 2:15 😂

If you can wait - I would wait for the Lucid Gravity- that EV is a game changer- better in every way!

Tommy Boy! Great job!

7:55 manufacturers, if you are going to do that maybe bolt the hood shut and just have a slide out drawer cubby from the sides or front.

Loved the Nissan cube! That’d be a perfect electric car, if they brought it back 😂

I love the jaguar I pace because you don’t see them on the road and look newer because it’s different 🥰🥰🥰

Nice colour

Shared similar thoughts like you had at the end of the video with Kia on X(Twitter) and they Blocked me. I was one of the biggest fans of this EV, but since they can’t take constructive criticism I’ll never buy their brand. Too much money for so little range, and no Tax credit.

What happened to the Lucid Gravity. Guess its not coming out or is Lucid going out of business?

Cheers guys I like it

Love mine

LOL, how did miss the Kia Soul for "square" vehicles (well Gen 1 and Gen 2 more so).

HONDA ELEMENT! I'll never be able to get one but love it, it's split tailgate, and suicide doors, and (mostly) washable interior. Drove one a long time ago for courier work and loved it.

I got mach E and soooo happy indidnt get model Y. No regrets. Been super reliable, looks super good and its not as common. The quality is unreal!

You forgot about the Honda Toaster, I mean "Element".

You mentioned the R1S but what about the Lucid Gravity?

Might replace our aging Honda Pilot w this

This vs r1S is kinda crazy

Of course you will find an abundance of crossover EVs in a Whole Foods parking lot; if you survey a monster truck show parking lot, you will think manufacturers are only making lifted pickup trucks. A better starting point is a Walmart parking lot, or coffee shop drive thru.

Can’t wait for tfl to take it off-road.

The Nissan Cube was a proper cube - until it got left out in the sun too long and started melting.

Does brake torquing help in an ev?

Starting price of over 50k and 215HP. That's attractive pricing for a 3 row suv?

because the model y is is efficient and has the best price for awd and 300+ miles of range at 39k after tax credit. thats why.

Kia is clever to base the styling after the already successful Kia Telluride.

I was literally looking at ev9 offers today. I am getting cybertruck and the plan is for my wife to keep the MYP. But trading for the EV9 may be the play. Just for the size

Lol good luck finding these in the $50,000 price range. I’ve checked across multiple states and the cheapest I can find it is around the $70,000 mark.

I want to love it but a 280 mile range is realistically 250. Then if you want to increase battery life, you keep the charge between 20-80%, so it’s really a 150 mile range. Looking forward to the day when they advertise a 650 mile range or have batteries than can run 0-100% without damage

Funny thing. Tesla model Y has on paper more cargo space than EV9. It might actually be a more practical family car, if you don't have a massive family.

It won't ever be $79k at the dealerships, they''ll mark up, so figure $82-85k, for a Kia. Nah. Great video guys. I wonder when folks will realize, that EV cars just aren't there yet. I wish manufacturers would pefect the technology, of batteries and such, versus force this stuff down our throats. I guess i'll be an ICEman for life. Great job guys.

Blame your federal government for that lack of a tax credit.

I feel like a lot of these "three row" EVs are just checking a box to say they have a third row. To me, if it's not functional, I don't see the point. That goes for the Model X and especially the Model Y third rows, too.

There is a good reason there are model y's everywhere.

Sure is few teslas in the USA. Here in norway every second car would be a model Y :)

If it had NACS port then it would be worth it.

New vehicle has entered the arena.

I’m very disappointed the nice features from the Korean version did not make it in the US version. You can get the $7500 tax credit using the lease rather than buying.

brake torque?

If I wanted to find some Tesla Model Y’s. My first stop would definitely be Whole Foods

This has made me laugh so much! and right off the bat xD

Disappointed that it isn't available with NACS charging.

In 4 years when I can get a used one for $30k I will consider it based on reviews at the time. I do not trust KIA battery packs yet!

It doesn't have those little triangle windows up front like the "Real" square shaped cars used to.

Great video. Thanks to Hyundai, i expect Kia to be around and in the car business in 4 years. Rivian, maybe, and Tesla will be selling us robots or helicopters or something... (j/k). I like the truck that looks like a truck, for under 70k.

It's got the steering wheel that the Cybertruck should have.

$54,900 they're almost giving them away at that price. I will buy two

Kia needs a BEV Carnival.

I love the ev9, especially the GT line. But I'm not willing to pay that price. Needs be 20k less.

Looks awesome can t wait to get one

Love the design but boy the prices of these EVs are getting into crazy town zone. Too much. And I see used BEV prices rolling over quickly.

Photo of it towing a boat. Would you launch a boat with it?

The Rivian R1S is still the best 3 row electric SUV. But the Kia has some compelling prices in the lower and mid spec trims.

If you lease it you get the full $7,500 tax credit and if you finance it you get $3,750 off

Beautiful design. KIA and Hyundai are definitely on their A game. Pricing... meh. A bit steep. But considering everything is costing more and more these days, it's not *that* bad.