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BikeSocial road tester Simon Hargreaves rides the 2023 #Honda XL750 #Transalp parallel twin adventure bike at the official launch in Portugal. How does Honda’s new dual-purpose bike compare to Suzuki’s V-Strom 800DE, Yamaha’s Ténéré 700 and Aprilia’s Tuareg 660? Find out here!
CHAPTERS
00:00 Introduction
00:40 On board test ride starts
01:20 First riding impressions
02:58 Model history
04:18 Road/off-road emphasis
05:13 Rivals
05:43 Engine spec and comparison to Suzuki’s 800DE
07:44 Frame and subframe
08:20 Suspension, ground clearance, seat height and brakes
09:09 21in front and tubed tyres
09:30 Tank, fuel consumption and range v Suzuki 800DE
09:57 Clocks and electronic spec
10:24 Weight
11:25 Quick shifter and screen
11:41 Price
13:45 Riding montage
14:10 Verdict
21:53 Outake
22:35 Service intervals and Accessory packs and prices
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@farracuda
@farracuda Год назад
“I’ll skip the boring history”, great review and history lesson😂😂. Like the way you positioned all the mid weight bikes between off road and road.
@smeagle17
@smeagle17 Год назад
I rode one in Spain at a bike event last weekend. As an owner of a 96 model TA, I went along as I couldn't pass up the opportunity to not just see one but to take it for a spin, and boy it surprised me regarding grunt and weight. Fun is the word that pops into my head, very much surprised. For someone who is considering a larger bike in October like the African Twin, or GS, I have to say this TA has made the short list.
@nickrider5220
@nickrider5220 Год назад
Good stuff Simon, great summing up as always 👍 That sector offers alot of choice now.
@andyw237
@andyw237 Год назад
Nice review, Thanks for giving us a clear uninterrupted and un-edited recording of the engine sound at the end! EVERY other reviewer i watched hides and edits out the engine sound for some strange reason. I watched this hoping to hear the engine finally, and it sounds great.
@writestuffmedia
@writestuffmedia Год назад
Getting decent sound is way harder than getting decent video - so I've got some kit I use just for the sound to try and capture it. It also helps that the bike really does howl and sounds pretty loud - the Suzuki 800DE is whisper quiet in comparison and if I'd recorded that all you'd hear is the sound of the wind 💨
@tonygolding2274
@tonygolding2274 Год назад
Great review, thanks for sharing 👍
@chris_rides_kawasaki
@chris_rides_kawasaki Год назад
I sat on this at the NEC and really liked it. It was as comfortable as the old v Strom 650... And with more beans. Im considering chopping in my z900 for it next year as I'm 52 and would like to move on from naked bikes. Good review, thanks.
@IdealBike
@IdealBike Год назад
Thanks for the review! Appreciate your honesty, it is one of the best first rides reviews. Still I was expecting more off-road experience, more infos about how suspension handles different off-road situations. Still I look forward to test it myself before June, greetings !
@rochmel1409
@rochmel1409 Год назад
Thanks Simon. Very useful . I'm looking for an 'everyday ride in any weather nip down the shops' type bike. The size and definitely the price of the Transalp as well as the retro looks have attracted me to it. Your review has done nothing to change my view. In fact it has whetted my enthusiasm to book a test ride! Thanks once again.
@riccihodgson6134
@riccihodgson6134 Год назад
Excellent, detailed review! Thanks Simon!
@mvjoshi
@mvjoshi Год назад
That remark,"feels like I am at home on this bike, I have ridden it before" is the clincher for me. This is exactly what a new bike should feel like from the word go. Your videos are made like you are having a converstaion with your audience over a cup of tea and that quality makes them much, much more relevant than most others. Sadly, I don't think we in India will get this bike, not at least in my lifetime ele it would have been my last big bike. Wondeful video. Subscribed to you now. Do keep up the great work with that informal tone.
@wimvangerven3400
@wimvangerven3400 Год назад
Nice review but I'm realy amazed by the price difference in the UK compared with the Suzuki. In Holland it is only € 100 cheaper and Suzuki gives a 6 year warranty on it as well. I find that a much better deal! Keep up the good work, I love your channel!
@barrymurphy3554
@barrymurphy3554 Год назад
Thanks very much for your review
@perhennung
@perhennung Год назад
Excellent presentation! Thanks!
@lala45531
@lala45531 Год назад
Im so glad so many great bikes are comming out recently, more better bikes is better for us.
@chrisarmes5293
@chrisarmes5293 Год назад
Another great review Simon 👏
@PhilEvansOnline
@PhilEvansOnline Год назад
Honestly the best review I've seen on RU-vid. 👍
@gingerelvis
@gingerelvis Год назад
You can tell it's a cracking road bike by the way you're chucking it round the bends one handed half the time 😁 I think it looks great and for where most of these type of bike get used it's spot on
@captainamerica9353
@captainamerica9353 Год назад
Yes, quite right, me thinks. It's not the Mini - AT many of us fancied for, but it will be a success for Honda, regardless.
@verbalwidget7267
@verbalwidget7267 Год назад
Good review, I like how you place all the bikes an the on-road / off- road scale, that’s what we want to know. Looks like I’ll keep my Vstrom 650 I was hoping Suzuki and Honda would make a Tenere beater. Thank you
@anthonyw688
@anthonyw688 Год назад
Thanks for saying exactly what you think. Seems everyone else describes the pidgin hole it Only fits in. You loved it, and I wanna ride it too.
@mikaellundsrensen6108
@mikaellundsrensen6108 Год назад
Good and fair review, nice to know where it's compared to the competition. Makes me wonder would a 19" front wheel have been a even better choice? But anyway, this Transalp seems to be a perfect travel companion.👍🙂
@andrewtreloar7389
@andrewtreloar7389 Год назад
Simon, first time I have seen you in ages where you haven't been in Sardinia!! Great review mate, definitely worth watching! Sadly, I was expecting more out of the Transvestite, more off-road oriented and more Africa Twin DNA passed down! Still, it has a 21" front and 18" rear and spoked wheels so I guess that is a bonus!
@an_aficionado6294
@an_aficionado6294 Год назад
Great job. Way more informative and non-biases than the other reviews. Love the comparisons. I’d assume if gravel or smooth hard pack are the only “off-road”, this might be the pick too.
@flippy66
@flippy66 10 месяцев назад
How do you know it's non-biased? It's obviously non unbiased because they need to keep being invited to press launches.
@an_aficionado6294
@an_aficionado6294 10 месяцев назад
@@flippy66 I purposely used the words ‘more’ and ‘than’. It’s a comparison comment not an absolute one.
@ragerider6283
@ragerider6283 Год назад
Nice review & the bike looks pretty good too. Also glad you dealt with the elephant in the room straight away & called a spade a spade. It's a road bike & that's absolutely fine as most adventure bikes never see a dirt road anyway. Honda will sell loads of them no doubt & for those minority of people who genuinely want to off-road, there are plenty of other great choices in the class. Also to be fair to the Suzuki, you can't spec the Honda to have a bolt-on subframe, bigger tank & fully adjustable suspension which is where the majority of the Suzuki's extra weight & cost come from. Now whether that is justifiable or not is another question I guess.
@Justen1980
@Justen1980 Год назад
My 1989 rm80 Yellow and Blue will never die!!!
@alastairtheduke
@alastairtheduke Год назад
The looks are kinda meh. It looks like the cb500x which isn't a bad looking bike but , meh. I would take the quirky square looks of the v-strom, at least it's something different.
@fallinginthed33p
@fallinginthed33p Год назад
The original was also mostly used for road riding. I would consider the Transalp a slightly more offroad-capable version of a Triumph Tiger 660. There's a huge market for these tall adventure tourers.
@ragerider6283
@ragerider6283 Год назад
@@fallinginthed33p Yes absolutely agreed. Honda have definitely hit the sweet spot as most people want the look with little or no intention of going off road & on that basis this is perfect. I also thought of the Triumph too & it's a good comparison.
@fallinginthed33p
@fallinginthed33p Год назад
@@ragerider6283 Sweet spot in size and price too. The Africa Twin is too big and expensive for most people.
@Steve96313
@Steve96313 Год назад
If I hadn't already got so used to being lazy with maintenance, having a shaft-drive on my SuperTenere, then I'd certainly have this near the top of my list. Looks like a fun all-rounder, jack-of-all type bike. Great review mate. I subscribe to all the major RU-vid review channels, and your reviews are always the gold standard for me. Please keep doing what you're doing 👍
@taylor2105
@taylor2105 Год назад
Shaft drive is easy, but most of us just neglect our chain drive anyway lol. The new o ring chains don't really need much love. They sure last a long time too. I trust em more than the belt drive cruisers come with. Man that was a heavy bike to push when that belt broke...
@torquer9669
@torquer9669 Год назад
Solid review, and I agree with the placement of the bikes. Actually the Transalp is exacly what I'm looking for. Cheers!
@alexandroseleftheroudakis2344
Great review!
@splodge5714
@splodge5714 Год назад
Enjoyed that. The David Attenborough of bike reviews. I almost expected a Gorilla to pop out from the trees towards the end.🦍
@natearchuleta2003
@natearchuleta2003 Год назад
I appreciate the disclaimers under the visuals pertaining to specs lmao. Made it worth watching on the TV.
@JAF41972
@JAF41972 Год назад
Really good review and bike 👌
@craigcooper8810
@craigcooper8810 Год назад
great review mate tyty :)
@kawabungah20
@kawabungah20 Год назад
This review is impressive in content and comparisons. This is a beautiful machine, and could be the perfect set-up for a rider like me who primarily wants a mid-weight road bike with ability for occasional gravel/dirt roads. (The 21-inch front wheel will help so much on those occasions, and it sounds like one sacrifices very little on the pavement twisties.) What were the option kits that you mentioned? Your ride looked like it sported a bash plate. I would want a center stand for chain and tire maintenance along the road. From California, thanks for a fun ride! (Just watched the option pack summary at the end of the video. Brilliant. I'll want it all except the hard panniers and tail box.)
@0HARE
@0HARE Год назад
Great informative review. Awesome bike. I want one. I already have the 2021 Honda CRF 300 Rally, for really playing in the dirt. I’m thinking that the TransAlp and the CRF 300 Rally would be the perfect pairing of off-road and on-road capability. Happy Trails
@douwe4549
@douwe4549 Год назад
Still happy with my el cheapo, suzuki freewind, 170 kilo with half a tank off fuel, offroading with it in Spain, handles like a dream, and good fun in the twisties and does 80 on the motorway. But it is not a looker, not defenitly not.. This honda is a beauty, it really is and a great price..
@stevegandalf4739
@stevegandalf4739 Год назад
The centre stand should be fitted as standard on the stock bike. No ifs, no buts. Otherwise superb for what it was designed for i.e. touring road bike with off tarmac fire road capability.
@thebrowns5337
@thebrowns5337 Год назад
A 21" front wheel obviously has a longer contact patch than a 19" and therefore more grip. The factbthey kept the front end stiff to feel like a more solid smaller wheel, but with this increase in grip... sounds amazing - fun yet reassured.
@mattyoz0
@mattyoz0 Год назад
You idiot.
@cavscout62
@cavscout62 Год назад
I waited and waited and waited then in the spring of 2021 I bought a T7. Here in Texas I’m still waiting however, when the Transalp gets here I guess I’ll have both in my barn unless someone wants to buy a low mileage T7 as I’m definitely more road oriented than off road. Nothing wrong with the T7 and it’s a great Bike, I just want and have wanted a TransAlp forever. It’s a little more suited to my needs and absolutely Beautiful in red white and blue.
@Jonte_Goldwing
@Jonte_Goldwing Год назад
Thanks Simon for a good video👍
@writestuffmedia
@writestuffmedia Год назад
Thank you for saying so!
@optoman_
@optoman_ Год назад
Simon, you are the best !! 😉👍
@writestuffmedia
@writestuffmedia Год назад
Thank you, that's very kind. No pressure! 😉
@ShortInterestFilms
@ShortInterestFilms Год назад
Great first ride review as usual, you always seem to get at least two levels deeper into the bikes than other press launch reviews - best of the bunch by far, nice one Simon
@abdellahbensaid4372
@abdellahbensaid4372 Год назад
Agreed 👌
@LemonDrizzleGang
@LemonDrizzleGang Год назад
Thats because Simon is a proper journalist not just a vlogger Great review 👍
@writestuffmedia
@writestuffmedia Год назад
@@LemonDrizzleGang whoa! Thanks, I really appreciate the compliment - just try to stay grounded and say what I see and feel, like you or anyone would. The thing I've really got over the vlogger guys & gals is I'm lucky enough to have been doing this for ages, so maybe a bit of perspective - and also, Bennetts BikeSocial - and this is the truth - WANT the truth. They aren't interested in blowing smoke up manufacturers' aholes; they don't need to. They value me telling it how I see it; that's what they want me for. Otherwise they wouldn't pay my astronomic freelance bill 😉
@billadmond9450
@billadmond9450 Год назад
@@writestuffmedia I agree it's a very in deep review but you're clearly in a conflict of interests with Honda and you can only sell your words to the Honda fanbois and spoiled kids who know nothing about motorbikes. Yes this bike is cheaper because now Honda calls standard equipment as "accessories" so the ignorant fanbois buy the bike "cheaper" then they add this and that which is already installed on other bikes. It's lighter, off course read above, a lot of stuff is missing plus you have to pay for it. It's a bike mainly for road riding but it has a stupid small gas tank so the bike again is lighter than others. The bike you show in the review is intentionally and misleadingly fully loaded with "accessories" as it should be as standard but again the ignorant fanbois don't notice that. Cheaper brakes and suspensions compared to other bikes so yeah this trash is cheaper! No quick shifting and cheaper bike! And what is the point to have a 21" front wheel and spoke wheels when this trash is NOT designed for off road? About tubeless I'm not sure but on a bike like this it should be standard equipment. A in deep review but misleading and deceptive.
@ShortInterestFilms
@ShortInterestFilms Год назад
Simon makes a good point regarding his benefactor - Bennetts . Each of the reviewers at the launch has an agenda and a paymaster - which is usually where you find the root of the bias - and there is bias in almost everything written commercially. As Bennetts most likely make money from selling insurance rather than bikes, ad space, RU-vid hits…. Etc, they have a different angle and it’s a good fit with Simon as the reviewer. If they can get their premiums to within 20% of the cheapest competition then I might even buy a policy from them 😄. All that aside, I really like the approach of these reviews as he tries to give a sense of the bike by using good tech explanations - not just specs.
@jonr3891
@jonr3891 Год назад
Great review - thank you. Still waiting for it here in the US... Personal preference, but I like the black version over the classic white/blue/gold rims. Wish it came with tubeless tires, but that's not a deal-breaker.
@peppeamerica3051
@peppeamerica3051 Год назад
Thanks for the great review simon!now that you had the chance to test both the suzuki and the honda what be your chioce?and which one is more apprecibile at low rpm between 2.000 and 4.000 ?
@hondaryder3779
@hondaryder3779 Год назад
My 2000 Transalp still starts every first try and has never missed a beat. Reliability and build quality are my nr. 1 concerns in buying any bike. I take mine offroad all the time, just fit some 50/50 tyres, the Mitas EO7's plus' kept me right side up on some of the more demanding terrain. If you want a more offroad orientated bike get the CRF like Noraly. But first watch Pedro Mota circumnavigate the world on an ancient specimen. That might change your opinion (and question your own abilities as an encore).😁 I'm 1,92mtr 97kg so your experience may vary.
@MagicAyrtonforever
@MagicAyrtonforever Год назад
Sadly the newer Hondas are not as good. My 20 Africa Twin has a 1st to second gear crunch and some corrosion issues. Honda don't want to know. I've lost trust in them after 40+ years of riding them
@Banditmanuk
@Banditmanuk Год назад
Great review. It's interesting to hear where this bike sits against the other similar bikes. If it is very much road biased, why has it got tubed tyres. It's the reason I wouldn't buy as a road bike.
@jthelakes147
@jthelakes147 Год назад
Good review and honest opinion of where the bike lies i.e more road orientated. When I priced Aprilia Tuareg V Honda the Transalp began to look a little pricey as it has no bash plate as standard or cruise control.
@RikkyTang
@RikkyTang Год назад
Great look at the bike Simon, thanks! Impressed with your - err - impressions of the 21" front wheel. The way you chucked the bike into the bends was eye opening! Looking at the available options at the end, it looks like you could spend £4k on Honda accessories and also make the bike weigh as much as standard GS 😁
@RichO1701e
@RichO1701e Год назад
It was the options prices that ultimately put me off. The basic spec at £9½ just isn't good enough. At least £3k for the stuff you're going to want. With it being a new bike, there's not enough after market parts available from non OEM manufacturers. I just went with a KTM 890 adventure for £11k with equivalent options AND cruise.
@soaruk3697
@soaruk3697 Год назад
@@RichO1701e Yeah the option prices are way too expensive............ and this is 2.5 grand more than the Hornet??
@dougiequick1
@dougiequick1 Год назад
But no matter how well a manufacturer can get adv bikes with 21" front wheels to corner they are NEVER going compare favorably to bikes properly set up with 17" wheels. It is probably like comments about how well some SUVs handle in the twisties which could be all well and fine but they are never going to be AWESOME like currently crops of little sports cars will be. But I think some folks are almost duped into believing they will truly have it all based on how well a reviewer compliments an adv bike's handling ....in reality though you are not getting a sportbike along with your adventure bike ....there is no such bike sad to say. If you want to fully enjoy each genre near the pinnacle of enjoyment then you will need multiple motorcycles PERIOD ....compromise means exactly what it sounds like as in giving up one thing to get another. A motorcycle all geared up to travel around the world tor instance (the ultimate expression of adv riding?) You will give up enjoying a LOT compared to the individual genres specialized at a single riding aspect....handling will SUCK in the dirt SUCK in the twisties etc etc but perhaps will brilliantly succeed in making it the entire trip in the most expedient comfortable manner in amazing time....if that is really your thing.....OR you could enjoy track or canyone riding one weekend on one bike while riding single track the next weekend on another and then spending a week crunching huge miles in utter comfort on yet another motorcycle
@PovilasPanavas
@PovilasPanavas Год назад
@@dougiequick1 I think "suck" is a wrong word. It will be average or a bit below average in all areas. And that's totally acceptable
@easyfromtnbtw3555
@easyfromtnbtw3555 6 месяцев назад
@@dougiequick1if you haven’t rode one you have no idea what you’re talking about I got rid of my CBR600 and got a Transalp and it’s really good on the road. I’m in Tennessee all we have is twistie roads with hills and I promise you it keeps up and the front end stays planted and we got the quick shifter standard and it’s the best daily ride I’ve been on
@paullong1472
@paullong1472 Год назад
Great review, thorough and enjoyable. The Honda is 12.5 k euros here in Ireland, not sure what price the V Strom will be here. I'm a Suzuki fan but these bikes are mainly used for touring, I think Honda won't be able to build them fast enough.
@alanroberts5118
@alanroberts5118 Год назад
Pleased its got the 21 front 18 inch rear combo for good off road tyre choices if rally raid make a bullet proof bash plate for it it will be half decent off road good review Simon 👍
@angels731
@angels731 Год назад
A Road Bike! - Not basically supplied with: Heated grips, USB sockets, Satnav mount, Tubeless tyres, cast wheels, pannier/topbox mounts, centre stand. Whoever, generally, does POWDER checks and includes spoke tension and corrosion checks? As much as I tend to look at Hondas for reliabilty, especially through British winters, I think they have lost the plot. They did have two shaft bikes Looong ago, Pan and Deauville, which could have been redesigned to current regs and emissions. Like I would swap out my current onemost manufacturers, they don't heed what riders really ask for but like to make them pay dearly for extras. There isn't a bike available on the market that I would swap mine for, the nearest would have been an NT1100 shaft drive.
@alexanderpaul3939
@alexanderpaul3939 Год назад
Just about to pass my full licence in a couple of weeks and I'm looking for a bike to replace my cb125f. This is top of my list but I do get tempted by the ability to check out some green lanes and the vstrom is tempting. Desperate to test drive them. Anyways thanks for the vid. Made me even more excited to pass my test and experience some bike adventures!!
@ThePresidentofMars
@ThePresidentofMars Год назад
Did you do the das without any prior experience on a more powerful bike? Im looking to skip to the das but im not looking forward to doing the mod 1 unprepared on a bike with 500 more cc's.
@edxr250r
@edxr250r Год назад
Thanks for such an informative and entertaining review of the new Transalp - it sounds like exactly what I'm looking for. The stock bike appears to be excellent value but looking at the pack options at the end of the video, to spec up with panniers, top box, centre stand, tank bag, heated grips, sump guard and quick shifter is going to add ~£2000 to the price so maybe not such a bargain....? Looking forward to riding a demo at some point in the summer, hopefully the fuel consumption in 'normal' ride mode (not road tester thrash mode) would be ~60mpg as I do like the option of ~200 mile refills. Great review, a UK comparison of this and the VStrom 800 would be interesting and maybe even throw in a 790/890 KTM Adventure/T7 too.......?
@davidz8
@davidz8 Год назад
The best review so far, very honest, the Transalp is a road bike that you take for a mild bit of offroading, I still think the price and weight are a bit deceptive as it has no bash plate or even hand guards. I think they will sell loads of them, and in a couple of years it will get cruise.
@writestuffmedia
@writestuffmedia Год назад
What I didn't mention in the review (because I hadn't thought of it) is that one of the reasons the Honda doesn't feel as happy off-road is because, to my mind, it's much more heavily front-weighted (with someone on the bike stood on the pegs). The Suzuki (and T7) both sit back more, and have less weight on the front - or at least allow enough suspension movement to shift weight back under power. I think that's another reason the Honda, to me, doesn't feel as confident in the front off road. I'd like to weigh them both to find the front to rear weight balance. I bet the Honda has more on the front than the Suzuki.
@billadmond9450
@billadmond9450 Год назад
@DavidZ8 Deceptive and misleading retail price and fully loaded weight specifications because a lot of stuff is missing while it's already installed on other bikes. Honda will only sell this trash to the ignorant fanbois.
@davidz8
@davidz8 Год назад
@@billadmond9450 A bit harsh.
@billadmond9450
@billadmond9450 Год назад
@@davidz8 I touched a fanboi's nerve LOL
@andresalaskeno2710
@andresalaskeno2710 Год назад
Tubed tyres is a no go. The rest fits for me. Original bash plate almost 500e, ouch..
@davidmallia628
@davidmallia628 Год назад
500e for a bash plate, a glorified frying pan you can buy for 10 Euro. Our crave for motorcycles give licence to motorbike manufacturers to rob us in pure daylight. Literally, taking us for a ride, pun intended. Shall we remain such idiots? The bike itself is the price of a car. Then come the inflated prices of accessories, that should come standard anyway.
@anxiousappliance
@anxiousappliance Год назад
@@davidmallia628 Don't know many cars at that price - and I wouldn't shop the Honda catalog.
@davidmallia628
@davidmallia628 Год назад
@@anxiousappliance OK Honda is not price of a good car, but many other bikes are. The point is, it's a rip off, even if you buy after market, which are sometimes worse.
@David..
@David.. Год назад
I’d just buy an SW Motech one which will be a fraction of that price. Most manufacturer supplied engine guards are garbage compared to aftermarket options.
@alangordon3283
@alangordon3283 Год назад
Why 🤷‍♂️
@jamesworgan1559
@jamesworgan1559 Год назад
Great review I have to say I'm tempted to trade in the Tracer 900. As a side I like your jacket, what make is it. I like the lack of badge etc. Thanks.
@IPSRayTreadawayDotCom
@IPSRayTreadawayDotCom Год назад
Great Review: how does it compare against a Aprillia Tureg....for a long distance overland/country adventure trip.
@RichO1701e
@RichO1701e Год назад
I really wanted one after seeing it at Birmingham motorcycle show in November. But, Honda took way too long to announce the price, great price, £9½k. But the optional extras were just too pricey. Nearly £3k in extras, no cruise control. With it being a new bike, no after market parts from non OEM manufacturers. Then delivery was looking at mid - late June, possibly July! Ended going with a KTM 890 adventure for less than £11k with equivalent options AND cruise control.
@roughrider9831
@roughrider9831 9 месяцев назад
Having test ridden a Transalp myself, I am amazed at how many journos and commentators speak so positively about this bike. Yes it handles well, I rode it at speed down a number of roads with extremely twisty bends. Hard braking, chucking it into bends, hard acceleration out of the bends. However, below 4500rpm, it is really lacking in power. It does accelerate nicely after 4500rpm, in the way a bike tuned for top end power does. Generally, as a bike to ride I found it antiseptic and dull. I am comparing to to my current bike, a CRF1000L Africa Twin which despite weighing an extra 30kg or so is still more fun to ride. Also a first generation Triumph Street Triple which had the X factor that the Transalp is missing in spades. Sadly, the Street Triple isn’t an Adventure Bike but it did show me that a well tuned relatively small CC bike can be fun. So my advice is Test Ride one for yourself rather than buying into the hype. Who knows, it might be your unicorn. Certainly not mine.
@birybenjamin3522
@birybenjamin3522 Год назад
Great review and transalp comes top
@andrewmelalueca4881
@andrewmelalueca4881 Год назад
Thanks for the review. I get my full licence in 4 months and I am looking around now. The reason I might not buy this bike is because it might not take punishment of the roads in the interior of Australia.
@EEEEMMMMKKKK
@EEEEMMMMKKKK Год назад
I like how this guy is doing the reviews, without any bias and not always the latest is the greatest.
@writestuffmedia
@writestuffmedia Год назад
Thanks Karol, I try really hard to just call is as I see it. My base setting is that if it's got two wheels, it's brilliant. Then, after that, it's a question of where it fits in the world - sometimes, bikes with loads of flaws are actually still very desirable to some people. And that's ok. You just have to spot them, and spot that the potential customer isn't bothered about that stuff. It's like criticising a Harley for having shit suspension or no ground clearance - that's missing the point, etc. So, anyway, thank you!
@JackGreystoke
@JackGreystoke Год назад
Thanks. Good review. One QQ, is it better/more capable off-road than the cb500x…?
@Alexanderpaal67
@Alexanderpaal67 Год назад
1. Where is the airfilter located ? 2. Where is the battery located ? 3. Where do i fit my Garmin gps ? 4. Is it Click on panniers without racks ? 5. How to adjust the windscreen ? 7. Is there Any 12v usb socket out of the box ? 8. Quality of Honda accesories: bashplate, is it dekorbars or proper crashbars , Heated grips, luggage etc ? Great looking Honda but no wingbadge thats a shame.
@Ole.Schultz
@Ole.Schultz Год назад
Great review. If i were to downgrade from my R1250GS i think i would buy the Transalp.
@kevinirle2931
@kevinirle2931 Год назад
Hope we get these in Australia this year
@Steeps1969
@Steeps1969 Год назад
Looks a great bike, some of the accessories are a bit overpriced though! If I was able to buy a new bike tomorrow, this one would be on the hit list. Thanks for the review!
@tomg4592
@tomg4592 Год назад
Since this is really a road bike I wish it had a 19" front wheel and allow wheels. 90% of owners will not take it off road anyway. I don't need spokes and don't like the look of them either but it looks to be a nice bike. I will consider one in the next year or two if Honda brings it to the USA.
@podunkman2709
@podunkman2709 8 месяцев назад
21" is acceptable. But tube tires is something hard to understand; it should be option to choose.
@frankstocker5475
@frankstocker5475 Год назад
Honda customer survey, "95% of our customers said they would like it to have a cruise control so we didn't install one plus we don't even give an option for one, we feel we know what's best for you"
@NakedExpat
@NakedExpat Год назад
Just out now in Philippines. Its really frustrating they haven't switched to tubeless like Africa Twin. Plugging punctures here is kind of a prerequisite
@SnickterP
@SnickterP Год назад
As an owner of a CRF450L, this looks like the perfect companion for me
@christianpaulroldan4010
@christianpaulroldan4010 Год назад
I like the bike i think this is the one that i ve been looking for. Do they have smaller cc?
@anxiousappliance
@anxiousappliance Год назад
Dunno - haven't ridden them, but the Honda is lighter smaller, more agile than the Suzuki, and you can tailor a mode to your off road liking if you don't like gravel mode. Sounds like the engine is super fun with top end fizz, but Honda makes very tractable engines, so maybe not a rock crawler like the Suzuki seems, but probably very good. I can't help thinking Suzuki missed a target with the strom - I look forward to reading about the gsx-s8, as I know they make great road bikes.
@cpuuk
@cpuuk Год назад
Seems everyone likes this bike (and the Hornet). I guess 2023 will be Honda's year :-)
@Szlejer
@Szlejer Год назад
Nope. Unengaging, boring designs. Nothing really new or ground breaking over the competition. Too little, too late.
@willlodge5386
@willlodge5386 Год назад
I’m quite surprised that the V85tt doesn’t come up much as a comparison when I see reviews of this bike. Very similar in terms of its road- touring- off road abilities and also totally confidence inspiring through the twisties. I also picked one up new for £9499, same price.
@writestuffmedia
@writestuffmedia Год назад
To be perfectly honest Will - and I speak as a massive fan of the V85TT; I *love* it! - it never occurred to me. I suppose I see the V85TT as a 'classic' adventure bike, along the lines of BMW's RnineT Urban G/S, Triumph's Scramblers, etc. But you're right, on paper you could put this in the same class. And, personally, I think the Guzzi is one of the best-looking bikes on sale today.
@willlodge5386
@willlodge5386 Год назад
@@writestuffmedia thanks for taking time to reply Simon 👍🏼
@SuzukiRider93
@SuzukiRider93 Год назад
V85 is beautiful and a fun bike to ride, but for long distance adv the tendency to burn oil and the small oil sump isn't ideal, italian reliability and quality is also questionable compared to Honda. On the other hand the simplicity of the air cooled pushrod twin is reassuring. So it's a toss up and totally depends what kind of riding you do, and where you're located.
@stephenthomas2745
@stephenthomas2745 Год назад
Great review but opinions on the mid to long range touring capability
@user-qz2dp9um3n
@user-qz2dp9um3n Год назад
Having watched your previous review on the Honda Africa twin and now the Transalp I was wondering which one you would recommend? To give the question some context. I’m new to Adventure style bikes ( currently ride a Triumph Thruxton 1200 but need something more forgiving for my knackered knees!) I will predominantly use the bike for Sunday ride outs with pals and an occasional 40 min commute. It’s either a new Transalp or a nearly new Africa Twin (2022 onwards). Thank you
@MrGolden28473
@MrGolden28473 10 месяцев назад
Great video! How would it do with a passenger for touring? Would the passenger be comfie? They get much wind? Seat? Any thoughts?
@teneretraveller8980
@teneretraveller8980 Год назад
It's the pick of the bunch for me because if I'm honest my off roading is very mild and doesn't warrant a Tenere level of ability. But, I'll wait to see what the faired Hornet looks like, which I hope is coming. Maybe that will be the cb750x I am hoping for. Tubeless flatter one piece seat and a decent payload. Safe, happy travels 👍
@hondaryder3779
@hondaryder3779 Год назад
English Biker Dan just did a review of it, conclusion: cramped riding position, no wind protection.
@teneretraveller8980
@teneretraveller8980 Год назад
@@hondaryder3779 I'm only 5'9" so it could fit. I'm not a full size person! 😁
@GS-xg4nz
@GS-xg4nz Год назад
@@teneretraveller8980 Is there definitely going to be a faired hornet? That would be perfect.
@teneretraveller8980
@teneretraveller8980 Год назад
@@GS-xg4nz Honestly, I don't know, but I can't believe they won't want their money's worth from that new engine. And the Tracer 700 is probably in Honda's sights...
@leeanderson5955
@leeanderson5955 Год назад
I like the way it looks and seems light on it's feet. I think bikes have been going way to big, expensive, complicated and heavy lately. This bike and others in it's category, including some similar street only bikes, harken back to the days when bikes were simpler and fun and somewhat affordable. I'd like this one to have better paint options and cruise control and, oh yeah, tubeless tires. That's it, looks pretty inviting to me.
@deanzaZZR
@deanzaZZR Год назад
I would expect a "sound road bike" in this category to be fitted with a 19" tire. Suzuki Vstrom went this direction as well. We'll see how the market responds.
@paulnorman8274
@paulnorman8274 Год назад
The center of mass of the worldwide market for 750 class bikes, are moving towards places where the ratio of plusses to minuses of 21 vs 19, are skewing more towards the former, than in the traditional markets of the US and Europe. Speeds are lower, roads are less smooth, and preexisting user experiences, are more likely to be from 250 dual sports, vs liter class sport bikes.
@marcusgeorge1825
@marcusgeorge1825 Год назад
Honda have played it smart. You add the options that Suzuki has as standard then not only does the weight increase, so does the price.
@davidz8
@davidz8 Год назад
I am so glad someone else has noticed that, no engine guard, I think if you add Honda's engine guard, which comes with the lower bars and hand guards you can add another 4kg to the weight and over £500 to the price. Still a great bike though.
@anxiousappliance
@anxiousappliance Год назад
@@davidz8 I sure wouldn't buy Honda accessories - LOL. But adding 4kg still puts you around 40kg lighter.
@alastairtheduke
@alastairtheduke Год назад
The one thing you can't buy is that nicer suspension on the v-strom. Well, you can, but it will cost you more than 1100
@Jonathan-L
@Jonathan-L Год назад
Good catch Marcus! Personally, I'd pick the Suzuki for the bigger fuel tank.
@paulnorman8274
@paulnorman8274 Год назад
@@anxiousappliance They only start out about 22kg apart....... Honda 208, Suzuki 230.
@MHDarlington
@MHDarlington Год назад
As someone who was riding when the original Transalp was born I looked forward to this review with a lot of interest, even if it wasn't really with a view to buying. Honda look like they've done a great job, balancing the heritage of the name in looks and style but combining it with modern build and ability levels. One thing I do find baffling though and this is not just aimed at Honda, is why they offer these tall-rounder/soft-roader type bikes with an option for a quickshifter but no option for cruise control. Maybe it's my age and background but I'm not sure I really feel the need for a quickshifter on what is an adventure-styled tourer/commuter whereas that's precisely the right area to deploy cruise control. For the pricing strategy I quite understand why it's not offered as standard but it's not even an option, which seems strange to me. Anyway, as the other several-hundred comments reflect, another engaging and thought-out review from Mr H provides information and entertainment in equal measure. Thank you
@jasonsmith6074
@jasonsmith6074 5 месяцев назад
Simon, always does a straight to the point review. Now this bike has my attention coming from a x adv 750, more power, bigger fuel tank, and a proper key none of the keyless stuff which i am not a fan off oh and the fit &finish of a Honda 👍✊
@TheDervMan
@TheDervMan Год назад
I’d expect it to have cruise control if it’s aimed as a road bike. Looks nice though.
@MrRGM10
@MrRGM10 Год назад
Im curious if someone would bring this hardcore technical trail how it fairs
@seanfinlayson3943
@seanfinlayson3943 Год назад
As soon as I found it had tubed tyres, I knew that I would NOT have one... Honda seem to think I'd be happy either trying to remove the wheel and get filthy for 2hrs at the side of a busy road, (or wait ages hoping for recovery), as opposed to spending 10 minutes plugging a puncture in a tubeless tyre, reinflating it and riding away... When will they listen to us?...
@douglaswinton826
@douglaswinton826 Год назад
How does it stand with the triumph tiger 900… please???
@thehowlingterror
@thehowlingterror Год назад
I like the look of it too. Hoping it has some of that old Honda build quality.
@hagestad
@hagestad Год назад
lets face it yamaha t7 is similar but probably better. You cant beat Honda dealer network though.
@Geshmaal
@Geshmaal Год назад
One issue with the price - it's about as much as a Moto Guzzi V85TT which comes with shaft drive and cruise control. As a mostly road bike for touring/commuting I think there's a strong argument for the Guzzi tbh. If Honda gave this bike cruise control I think it'd be a much better value proposition.
@BodybuildingSteve
@BodybuildingSteve Год назад
Agree but parts take forever to get from guzzi and reliability is very hit and miss imo, Honda is very consistent, personally I’d get the transalp just for reliability but the v85 certainly whoops it in the looks department
@tomcooney183
@tomcooney183 Год назад
V85tt is 33% more expensive than a tenere in my part of the world
@Geshmaal
@Geshmaal Год назад
@@tomcooney183 yeah it will vary from place to place. In the UK you can get one from £9,699 compared with the £9,499 of the XL750 or about £8,900 for a Tenere. To be fair the Tenere is unquestionably a better off-road machine, but as a 90%+ road tourer/commuter the V85TT definitely has the better kit.
@nigelfisher3756
@nigelfisher3756 Год назад
That’s a very good point. Atm, the Honda, when compared to the Guzzi V85TT, is simply not as good vfm. And it doesn’t have the cachet or the looks of that Guzzi badge. I’m sure the Transalp is a great bike and does a great job at a fair(ish) price but it’s not a steal like it’s sibling Hornet. I’d have the Guzzi of the two.
@nigelfisher3756
@nigelfisher3756 Год назад
Also the latest Guzzi V85TT has extra modes, tubeless spiked rims and cruise…..no brainer, then.
@Parkyste
@Parkyste Год назад
Great review cheers Simon… What would you go for the TransAlp or a second hand 21/22 year Africa twin?
@gpiludu
@gpiludu Год назад
Aren't these pretty different bikes? The Africa Twin is like +100lbs and, in the US, it is actually difficult to find a non dct AT.
@writestuffmedia
@writestuffmedia Год назад
Cheers - that's a good shout. I think I'd probably go with the AT, coz engine, mostly. But the Transalp is probably a slightly better all-round road package, I think. I'd deffo take the AT AS tho, with the bigger tank!
@Parkyste
@Parkyste Год назад
@@writestuffmedia Cheers Simon… I only ask because I bought a 2021 DCT bike last year… it had lots of genuine Honda parts fitted… Touring screen Centre stand Heated grips 12v socket Full crash bars upper and engine…. Bought from a Honda dealer for £11,200 only 2000 miles… like brand new and 19months remaining Honda warranty (by the time I specced a TransAlp the same there would only be a few hundred quid in it.. and it doesn’t have DCT or cruise) I’m a bigger guy at 19 stone and didn’t know weather to give this bike a try of just extend the warranty on mine and wait a few years for the new Africa twin because Honda must be thinking of turning the wick up on it now there is just 10BHP difference?
@alexanderkorchagin67
@alexanderkorchagin67 Год назад
Hi, what is exactly worst with offroad bike performance except of gearing rates? Is suspenstion not good enough?
@Speedytrip
@Speedytrip Год назад
Great little bike. I hope someday Honda starts focusing on improving the valve check schedule. On my Africa Twin it was 1000$ at an independant mechanic, and at the dealer it was quoted as an 8h job by a Honda technician. When a Ducati is lower maintenance, you know Honda needs to do their homework. If this bike is anything like working on the Africa Twin...it's not fun.
@TS50ER
@TS50ER Год назад
Were you quoted 8 hours to check the valves or to actually adjust them?
@Speedytrip
@Speedytrip Год назад
@@TS50ER it included adjusting, but most of that time is just getting to the valves and putting evrything together after. The spark plugs are just as hard to get to, heck even the air filters require you dig into the bike. I could change oil, adjust valves, change air filter on my dr650 by the time someone changes the air filters on an africa twin.
@TS50ER
@TS50ER Год назад
@@Speedytrip , I hear you. I ride a Varadero 1000, and pack sandwiches and a flask for an air filter change. Honda have hydraulic valve adjusters on their Shadow 1100 bikes. It wouldn't be too much of an ask, surely.
@Speedytrip
@Speedytrip Год назад
@@TS50ER had those on my 1993 nighthawk 750 as well…crazy that newer bikes need twice the maintenance..
@alastairtheduke
@alastairtheduke Год назад
I'm quite surprised that no one compares this and the suzuki 800 de to the triumph tiger 850 sport
@Chips690
@Chips690 Год назад
Thanks Simon. My Tiger 850 is just out of warranty. Was looking at this as the next new purchase. But like the Tiger 850, no cruise control or even option to get it fitted! Question is another Triumph or back to Honda?!!!🤷🏼
@thierryfaquet7405
@thierryfaquet7405 Год назад
Your changing bikes just because out of warranty ? O_o And the obvious answer is get a Tiger900 and never look back.
@Chips690
@Chips690 Год назад
@@thierryfaquet7405 the 900 was the other option! But quite enjoyed the lower spec of the 850 apart from no cruise control!
@adzilla1985
@adzilla1985 Год назад
Any idea on how it would compare to the tracer 7?
@JohnSmith-ef8nr
@JohnSmith-ef8nr Год назад
Dose anyone know what the service intervals are compared to the CP2 5k oil 25K valves check?
@TallyHoTech
@TallyHoTech Год назад
What is the point of a 21” front wheel if it’s a 90% road bike? If it’s more for the road bias surely a 19” makes more sense regardless if it handles great on road with a 21”.
@JasonSmith-dw3vp
@JasonSmith-dw3vp Год назад
In other words as an inspiring ‘adventure’ new rider the bike I realistically will buy second hand after the Scram 411 😉
@NPR10665
@NPR10665 10 месяцев назад
Where is the air filter located? How difficult are the maintenance?
@alozborne
@alozborne Год назад
It's a bummer that this bike is more road biased than off-road biased. I currently have a CB500X and it would seem that the Transalp is more of the same. When the Transalp was first announced, I was thinking that it would be my next bike - a bit of a unicorn that was equally comfortable and competent on road and off road. Although the new V-Strom looks like a nice bike, it's just a bit too heavy and has a bit more power than I want/need. The Aprilia Toureg 660, on paper, seems like a perfect bike for my needs - I just wish Honda would come out with something comparable as I don't want to gamble on an Aprilia in terms of reliability and dealership expertise. Perhaps future CB500X model years will evolve into a slightly better off road bike and my next bike will be another CB500X! I do love my 2022 CB, but it could use a bit more power, a bit more ground clearance, and a better suspension.
@robbyds5186
@robbyds5186 5 месяцев назад
Good review. My only problem is its not tubeless😅
@gonzotenerife
@gonzotenerife Год назад
Is the Honda Transalp closer to a Triumph Tiger Sport or a Tiger 900? Same question with Yamaha: closer to a Tracer 7 or a Tenere? .... It looks like an awesome machine, but at the same time, if it would be nice to see two versions of it (both tourer focused and with cruise control), one of them, Road focused with Alloy Wheels 19"F/17"R, the other one with Spoke wheels 21"F/18"R (tubeless if possible) adj. Fork and windscreen. (More expensive but still cheaper than the Africa Twin)
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