Wembanyama or Chet Holmgren: Who will win the NBA Rookie of the Year?! 🏆 | First Take 

Throwback to when Stephen A said Scoot was going to win ROY 😂. WEMBY Hater from the start!

I cannot respect the opinion of a "journalist" that constantly mispronounce a player's name. At this point, he's doing it on purpose.

Vic is a number one option seeing doubles and tripplle teams while bro getting 20 and 10 and his team wasent even passing em the ball

This shouldn’t even be a conversation… I won’t elaborate

Is this seriously a question?? It should be a unanimous VOTE for Wemby!!!

The disrespect Wemby gets from the US sports media is astonishing. If this guy was American-born, ESPN would give him his own channel. Stephen A., for the thousandth time, it's W-E-M-B-A-N-Y-A-M-A!!!!

Victor is something special I mean having more blocks this month then 6 other teams is crazy Victor Wembanyama -38 Bulls - 36 Kings - 36 Clippers - 36 Knicks - 35 Blazers - 30 Heat - 23

When’s winning ever mattered for rookie of the year Stephen a hates any player that isn’t American

Victor will be the ROY. He's been getting better and better. Leads the league in blocks and is averaging 20 pts and 10 rebounds!

In any normal year, Chet would probably win it, But Wemby is an actual alien bro. It's his first year and I'm already scared when my team faces him.

Wemby. The real question is "How is this a debate"? I guess they need it for content

It’s nice to see 2 young centers that play like guards but still have elite skill in the post on defense . Changing the game for the future

Chet isn't a full rookie imo. Also, keep in mind that Wemby got injured and played with minute restriction, still is able to put out better numbers than Chet. They're trying to make it more interesting by putting Chet in the conversation but its a done deal for Wemby.

Def wemby bro been on minute restriction and putting up crazy numbers.

Perk made a good point. There are benefits of Chet starting his rookie season in his second year. Not only he have access of all the scouting reports of other teams and accessibility of the NBA training program, he came into the team in which his teammates have already had one extra year of development under their belts. What would Chet look like if he was healthy and played last year next to the rookie Jaylen Williams and the not-MVP SGA?

It’s easily Wemby. Imagine if Wemby had SGA. He would average 21-22 on better than 50% Chet was training with nba level trainers so no he shouldn’t be in the race at all

It says a lot that there is a player that can be in consideration with the most hyped prospect ever. Just shows how much talent we have to look forward to in the next decade.

The real question is if we put Victor Wembenyama in the situation of Chet Holmgren what is Victor doing in his second season gaining all the NBA knowledge. If he is this good in his rookie season without any NBA knowledge and all he keeps saying is he wants to learn more and more and any chance he gets he’s attempting to learn more and every game he is getting better and better, how would he be in Chet Holmgren‘s situation. Having a full year to sit out and gain NBA knowledge then come out the next year with a MVP caliber point guard. He’s averaging almost a triple double I guarantee it. You build chemistry you build NBA knowledge and then you have an entire off-season to practice with your guys. Let’s stop acting like Chet Holmgren is as good as victor. Holmgren is an incredible player and he will be an amazing player he stays healthy, he’s just not Victor

As a Thunder Fan its wemby

5:50 The media: "They don't like each other....they hate each other!" Meanwhile Wemby seeing Chet in the hall wall smile, and introduce Chet to his mom. The same media BS that want us to think Bill and Wilt hated each other, while in reality they're friends who likes to have dinner together after a game.

The fact that there’s even a debate at this point is laughable

Wemby is the primary option and double teamed nightly while also having his own team work against him. Chet is looking very privileged on his team

The Sochan disrespect has to stop. Kid is also 20 having to defend the best player on every team pretty much. Sochan will be a star in 2 years

Wemby and I don't think it's that close. It was close and Chet was even leading the charge for a little while before new year's, but then Wemby took off.

Wemby being ROY takes NOTHING away from how well Chet is playing.

not a debate Vic easily

Wemby came from France with all the pressure and he delivered

this is literally NOT a debate lmfao

Bruh this shouldn’t even be a debate🤦🏿‍♂️

Chet had the perks of being around OKC even though he didn't play. He was watching film and learning what its like in the league.

That Wembanyama vs Chet rivalry is gonna be something insane to see as they both get older and better

I agree with Unc. You’re not a rookie anymore if you get to spend a year around the NBA game even if you’re not playing

Wemby should win because this is Chet’s 2nd season with OKC.

If Chet was doing this last year he would have won rookie of the year no doubt... This year it's Wemby

2:18 “good wind come along… ain’t no tellin where he goin end up” 💀

Shannon preach it! 🙌🏼

San Antonio may not be all that entertaining to watch as a team right now, but as soon as the Spurs put the right pieces around Wembanyama, we're going to start to see his full arsenal.

At this point it ain't even no debate anymore.

He’s also playing with an all star starter where Wemby is playing with dudes who should be in their fourth year of college. It’s Wemby and that’s it. Holmgren is really good. But nothing wrong with coming in second if you get to be in the playoffs. He doesn’t have to carry the Thunder

Just give it to both of them. They are both amazing

The actual rookie should win the award the kid who has never been through a nba season or had nba coaches to help him out all year and off season

My respect increased for Stephen A. Good thoughts and dialogue.

Chet has also been in the league a whole year. Yes, he was injured, but he was around the team, he was practicing with the team longer, he got to acclimate before Wemby even got to the league. He's a quasi-rookie. He's a redshirt freshman.

This cant be a serious debate...

Not even a debate 💯

I think Wemby gone take a huge step next year he’s already getting comfortable imagine how u feel after not even winning 20 games out of an 82 game season he got that drive

“If he’s anywhere in the area he’s going to block it”😂

Her face at the end of that was so funny

Sochan catching strays is hilarious and deserving😂😂😂

The way this question should always be framed for ROTY is, "If there was another NBA draft today, who would be the first pick?" No GM in the NBA would ever pick Chet over Wemby. Not now, not 10 years from now. Wemby is like if you were making an NBA2k MyPlayer that was overpowered.

Thank you, Stephane B, for your comments on Victor 🎉

You just answered your own question , It's an individual awarded on how that individual is playing , not the team.

I respect and cheer for both players, YET there are very valid points being mentionned that should be considered: 1 - If we go for the cheer INDIVIDUAL numbers, then Victor takes it, man he is LEADING THE NBA in Blocks as a Rookie ... is that even a debate? 2 - If we go from the Rookie or not standpoint, even if he didn't play, Holmgrem has had NBA level training, coaches, and insights even by just sitting on the bench and this has a lot of value, Wembanyama didn"t and you could see it by jut watching first half and second half of the season, numbers ain't the same. 3 - If we go for the 'TEAM THEY IN' perspective, debate is quite large, some might argue Victor shines because he is the only real threat in the spurs while others would argue Chet is fulfilling a role thus sacrificing some numbers of his own. From my point of view Victor takes it simply because opposite teams are on him and would double if not triple defense on him because of what and who he is, this doesn't happen with Chet who's got greater teamates standing by his side. 4 - Let us subjectively measure the progression margin on both these players, let's face it, both improved quite a lot throughout this season and yet, once again, Victor is quite definitely the one you can see the biggest improvement on ... his game and numbers speak for themselves. So in conclusion, whether you like it or not, deny it or not, Both are unicorns and both are deserving of the award, yet Id give it to Victor hands down, man has been a wrecking ball all over the league, hes given you so many unbelievable highlights and already shown hes stading his ground against the very finest (Giannis, Davis, etc), that is in itself the very definition of a ROTY ain't it?

It was close when Wemby was shooting like Scoot Henderson from the field early on, but now its Wemby by a mile. Chet is the better more efficient scorer, but Wemby does everything else better, hes a better rebounder, better defender, better playmaker.

still debating chet vs wemby ROTY in 2024 is so crazy

Thank you...shannon .

Wemby is averaging 20/10 and leading blocks in a season where he only plays 28min. His per 48min stats must be miles ahead of other rookies

The Thompson twins are ballin tooo

"Sochan is terrible" in my guy from boondocks voice 😂😂😂

I mean it was close in the beginning, but then the Spurs and Pop changed the scheme after the new year, and Wemby has separated himself since

Wembanyama doing that playing less minutes than chet

Shannon wrapped that up just right. Overall, a pretty good discussion. People see Wemby as the Spurs only guy and Chet in a supporting role. But Chet is over 31 minutes a game and Wemby is around 28. Wemby's stat line is even more impressive when you realize he is not getting full minutes. The Spurs are developing Wemby and he is developing fast as the season continues.

This is not a debate

Chet Holmgren just made NBA history. "The most recent proof of the Oklahoma City Thunder big man’s dominant ability on both ends of the floor came in the form of some unique NBA history. Holmgren became the first player to total 150 blocks, 150 assists and 100 three-pointers in a single season, as Daily Thunder’s Brandon Rahbar detailed." As seen above, this came just days after San Antonio Spurs rookie Victor Wembanyama hit the mark of 75 three-pointers in a season and currently sits with 81 on the year. Holmgren and Wembanyama remain in an interesting battle for the NBA’s Rookie of the Year award, and it’s a race that’s expected to come down to the wire. Holmgren is averaging 17.1 points, 7.7 rebounds, 2.7 assists and 2.6 blocks per game while Wembanyama is averaging 20.7 points, 10.1 rebounds, 3.3 assists and 3.3 blocks per game. Sports Illustrated

No offense but why is “ who is gonna be ROTY “ still a question? Its pretty clear cut already who is ROTY.

wemby. earlier in the season I picked chet because he was putting up similar numbers being lower option and on winning team but now his numbers have dropped. wemby being #1 option, he just have more opportunities and its really showing now.

How is this still a question?

Big Perk! U ok, u iight? 😂

crazy to think chets a rookie

Chet is great and is playing on a contender team. That said, I would vote Wemby. I have been very impressed with his game. He will be dominant in years to come.

Speak on it Stephen A.

Keep that same energy the NBA had for cade Cunningham he was leading all rooks in scoring and assists and the roty still went to Scottie Barnes because he was on a winning team

The best arguments you can make for chet is that OKC has the same roster from last year with the only difference being chet. You can credit OKC being a top 3 seed with chet being on the court.

If you play this at .75 speed Molly is literally talking at her normal pace 😂

Chet Holmgren does have a advantage being drafted in 2022, learning the thunders gamplan, build chemistry and practice a longer period of time than victor and the spurs. But man these two have had outstanding seasons as 21 and 20 years of age.

This should not be a debate

Shannon: We just talking cause we supposed to😂

Put it this way. If Victor WembanyaMA was never born, a lot of these rookies wud have been talked about more including chet.

Huge difference when you have SGA on your team. That is why he started with its an individual award.

Imagine Wemby on okc Steven A… he’ll be dominating and winning

The fact Stephen a sat up there and had the audacity to stay that when wemby and Chet faces off it was basically a back and forth or that it was close is crazy wemby absolutely bullied Chet the last time they faced off it wasn’t even close

It feels Wembie v Chet will be a potential 20+ year battle similar to Bird v Magic for this era if they both stay healthy

Either of the two is deserving to win the ROY! Both players are phenomenal and a generational talent!

I’m an Okc fan & I can admit wemby should win ROY. Chet’s amazing season just better not go overlooked! What he’s doing is special

I don’t think they hate each other lol I live in okc and listen to local reporters/journalist and I love how ESPN pushes this agenda that they hate each other lol they don’t

If the Spurs had a better record or if Wemby was on OKC, he'd also be in the conversation for DPOY.

Ranking each of the new Clippers logos - 1. Global: 8.5/10 Must have the entire name Los Angeles Clippers on it as the N represents North. Love the red outline for the 80-10s Clippers colors with the baby blue outline around the C(ompass/ship) to represent our San Diego colors. This is our best logo since our San Diego one which showed three triangles as sails and with a sun behind it that can also represent a basketball. 2. Secondary A: 8/10 Prior to this newly scripted “LA” font in cursive, I was not a fan of the LA we had with the A on top of the L. It tried to look too much like the Dodgers but looked uglier. But this new LA font is distinctive enough thanks to being cursive from the iconic Dodgers’ LA one. Gillian Zucker is excited for this one. I will definitely be buying a hat for this new LA font. Think of the Yankees’ NY. There is a distinct way it’s written to know it’s a Yankees hat. 3. Primary: 7.5/10 This looks like the global one but without Los Angeles Clippers written for it. I figure this is the one networks and Yahoo Sports will use because the LAC inside a ball is being used more and that’s also our primary one. I prefer if the networks and ESPN webpage use the global one. 4. Secondary B: 7.5/10 This is the one with Clippers scripted in cursive. A throwback to the 1984-2015 one written on our jerseys prior to our NBA Live 2006 logo and all the LAC stuff. I actually think this one is better with the more straight lines. As Gillian Zucker said, the previous one we used for 31 years did look more cartoony and not for us to be taken seriously which was the case when we were owned by Donald Duck Sterling. 5. Secondary C: 7/10 It just says Clips in cursive. I prefer seeing it as Clippers. I know it’s a stupid name and some wanted a name change but I find it enjoyable saying Clippers more than Lakers. For the perverts out there, it’s like saying nipples. 🫢 With Clips, it rhymes with nips and I think of paper clips 🖇️ that Jason McIntyre enjoys calling us. But I guess Steve Ballmer likes calling us Clips for short. Our new Clips jersey this season looks too much like the Wizards jerseys from 20 years ago that MJ wore. 6. Partial: 6/10 This one will likely be seldom used. It’s the C but without the ship inside. It does look like a silhouette of a basketball but I don’t see this one being used for merch very much. I predict networks like ESPN using the global logo for us. This one will likely get scrapped after a season similar to the red LAC jerseys. Even our global logo with the NBA Live 2006 script was scrapped in favor for the LAC inside the basketball. You rarely see the original one from 2015 on networks or on merch. Best Clippers Logos Ever 1. 2024-???? 2. 1978-1982 3. 2015-2024 4. 1982-1984/LA: 1984-2015 That first San Diego Clippers logo has really held up after 46 years. I don’t know why they changed it by 1982 to the one that would be used for the next 33 years with the difference saying Los Angeles above Clippers instead of San Diego by the time the team moved to LA in 1984. The only thing I don’t like from the San Diego one were their colors. I’m not the biggest fan of baby blue mixed with a darker orange. I prefer the red, white, and blue scheme by the 1982-2015 ones. Then I liked the 2015-2024 ones when it added more black with their previous colors. This new one is already the new GOAT for Clipper logos. I do prefer more of the navy blue these days. I own a lot of red shirts and hoodies. I own the Jordan 13 Bred. But one thing I’m learning is blue especially navy hides dirt and flaws better. And why not NAVY blue? A tribute to a fleet of clipper ships. Ranking the new jerseys 1. Navy blue with Clippers: 8/10 I would’ve preferred if Clippers was in black along with the number. Not Clippers in red and the number in white. I try to avoid most things in white as they get dirty too easily like owning a white car or white sneakers. But I think this is the best of the three to represent the new logo and new rebranding in our new arena. This is the one I’ll get for Kawhi’s jersey. 2. White with Clippers: 7.5/10 This basically looks like the home white jerseys we had for about 30 years. Check Danny Manning wearing a white home Clippers jersey circa 1992-1993. The only difference is the Clippers is in navy blue this time instead of red and the strip on the sides kept evolving since the 00s. I actually think this one does look better because I prefer how Clippers is written. I prefer the straighter lines over the cartoony one. This is the one that will likely be used when we retire Kawhi’s number. 3. Red with Los Angeles: 6/10 Like the red LAC jersey from 9 years ago, I believe this one will hardly be used and be scrapped after a season like our new partial logo with just a C on it. Clippers already removed their blue in place of baby and navy blues. I believe they’ll start distancing themselves from red and will gravitate towards more to navy blue. Hence, why their City Edition Clips jerseys was used as a test drive to embrace more of that navy blue and the word: Clips. Clippers finally put a logo out with some thought into it. Minimalistic. Tribute to our past. Great job, Clips. But even a new logo and new unis won’t change our future if we never win a championship. Job isn’t finished. Is job finished? We’re now 4th and have lost 4 of our last 7 games. We haven’t played great since winning in Boston. I’m not sure we have the size to stop Denver, Minny, NOLA, and Lakers if we meet up in the playoffs and if we can’t even handle scrawny af Chet Holmgren. Ty Lue will keep using smaller players and making us shoot tons of threes. Then when we miss, we’ll get murdered in the paint. We can’t rebound or defend the rim. I sense a First Round upset is coming for us. If we meet Sacramento or Dallas early, I’m not sure we can beat them either. Clippers are just an annual regular season tease like my San Francisco 49ers. But at least my Niners are making Super Bowls even though we’re losing in them. Clippers have never made a Finals yet. New logo but same old Clippers. Same old heartbreaks and bad luck. A new rebranding isn’t changing any of that.

Steven come ON BRO it’s YAMA!!!!

Chet is not a rookie, he is efficient because he got SGA and jdub drawing out the defense while Wemby being the primary focus of defense still produce those insane stats.

The best part of the Victor vs Chet comparison is that it's a real rivalry. They don't like each other (for whatever reasons) and will go at it whenever their two teams meet.

OKC fans are happy going to the playoffs and Spurs fans are happy Wemby got ROTY. We all happy👏🏼

Needs to be a rule that second year players can’t compete for ROY if they are injured in first year. Doesn’t make sense.

Ben Simmons caught a stray from Shannon 🤣🤣

Okc is small market and don't get much coverage, but if you have watched them for the last two years, those rookie players have improved. People were saying chet was a bust, but we never got a chance to see him play. I am happy I saw him blossom and show everyone wrong.

I can already see a lot people saying "Chet got robbed" in May. lol

Actually if things goes that way , i think they have to share it

It’s crazy that this comment section acting like it isn’t a debate. Like how many spurs and thunder games have y’all really watched

Weather he a rookie or not it’s clearly Victor. He’s so good no one cares his team only has 10 wins

Chet 40% from 3 as a second or third option on a winning team. Wemby as teh first option of a bottom feeder but with crazy stats across the board. Tough decision. Wemby has more opportunity than Chet who's playing with an MVP and still able to shine. But Wemby has had many crazy games. a 5x5 as a rookie? I'd have to say Wemby.

Do Jordan Poole vs Ben Simmons next