Sometimes, unfortunately, the only way to find TRUE and LASTING happiness, is to be willing to sacrifice your TEMPORARY happiness, for the sake of seeking the truth above all else. Many, sadly, are unwilling to do this.
@@LoveYourNeighbour. imseek the truth. TRUTH is determined by the quality of the evidence. To this point, no Christian has provided me with any quality evidence of any god, but science has provided evidence for many questions. And for those thst it doesn't YET, the answer to those questions is "i dont kniw", not "god"...unkess you still believe thunder is caused by Thor or Zeus.
Unfortunately, this applies to many, many Christians as well; Christians who seek God for happiness or even material fulfillment, rather than seeking God to know the Truth.
Sorry to hear that. I am in somewhat in the same situation. All you can do besides praying is to set a good example, and tactfully bring up or mention at good opportunities from time to time things about God, or life and creation related to God in positive ways.
Praying for your family to come to Jesus! Maybe show them a couple videos from Ravi Zacharias that might interest them or have them read Narnia! That might make imagination run wild.
@JIM My first thought as to why he has some ready is that he beforehand (since his main purpose is to answer questions) he set up slides for popular disputes. This is evident because he "changed" her question slightly to better fit his answer.
@@reecem367 they are simply smarter than you Sir... they know everything.... they know the truth.... but they just deny it....how I know ? their expectations from Christians shows that..
Kevin Zhou it’s because of the potential to change. A duck has no potential to not be a duck so it can’t be held against it for quacking (funny analogy by the way). But we on the other hand actually have the potential and capacity to change and become righteous, therefore we are held accountable whether we are born in sin or choose to sin, because we can still change either way.
God did solve the issue of those who 'have never heard', we call it the conscience. He speaks into the hearts of every person. Close your eyes and feel. He's there, telling you right from wrong. There is no such thing as someone who has never heard.
@@Kariegoz ... agree .... the human race does not and will not understand God ... the Trinity ....we are made for His purpose .... we only have a certain intellectual capacity He has given us ..... we are yet to grasp the content of Gods presence and universal might and I AM ....!!!
@@CollagenExpert "literally most Christians cherry picking the Bible and it’s many contradictions" Name a follower of the Abrahamic religions that _doesn't_ cherry pick their "holy" book? ___
If your running away from God in the pursuit of happiness, then your running away from true happiness and joy and into the arms of depression, hate and self loathing. All the things the enemy wants for you.
For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things! But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report? So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. - Romans 10:13-17
its about timing. I was searching for meaning to life 20 odd years ago. Almost went into the occult, but didnt get far with that thankfully. I had been raised to know some basic gospel stories such as the good samaritan etc. Otherwise the Christ message was unknown to me...He went to the Cross and that was about all I knew, but assumed everyone got saved. I was wrong. Its timing...being in the right place and at the right time for a questioning person to be confronted with the Gospel. Thats what happened to me. I knew I had to get right with God, because looking at myself and people, with all manner of terrible things we are capable of. You can go door to door and so on, but the ferocity of people just shows how blinded they are. They just dont want to know.
Its not about what weve done, its about who He is. Has nothing to do with your timing, when you were ready to receive Christ, you already had, you were helpless to resist, and He called you. Plain and simple. PTL
The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM! Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings! Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21 Jesus said the Father is the only true God! John 17 3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent. RSV Only-monos God-theos Monos theos Monotheism The Father Jesus is the one sent by the true God (the Father)! Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has a God! Jesus has a God! Jesus died! God can’t die! God raised Jesus from the dead!
Hi there, you might some of the videos on the playlist on my channel interesting and perhaps life-changing.. the playlist is titled ‘Purpose of Life?’ Anyway all the best to you!
@@shezadm6300 I don't think Islam has an answer for people who have never heard about praying 5 times a day to Allah and Ramadan and etc. How will they be saved according to islam?
Before somebody shared the gospel with me, I had about as much interest in Jesus as a 5 year old boy does about coming inside to take a bath. Fortunately for me, this friend kept at me for weeks until I gave my life to Christ. 33 years later i still strive to learn, and share the gospel. I now live in Japan and this question of “What happens to people who have not heard” is always on my mind. I have an AMAZING Japanese father-in-law. I don’t speak his language and he doesn’t speak mine. He doesn’t seem to have an interest in God, but he walks out a good life that would be on par with the best Christians I know. His generosity and refusing to speak ill of people is above reproach. To me, this video has an explanation, however I hope to hear a much better explanation. I am doing my best to learn Japanese at 56 years old, I pray I have time to talk with him before it is too late. God bless and Shalom to all.
This comment will be considered ancient by online standards, but just in case you ever check back I'll offer a few thoughts. . First, there are a lot of "amazing" people in the world who give no outward signs of knowing Jesus. But we do know the Bible says that belief in Jesus Christ as one's savior and trusting him for salvation is the one and only way to eternal life. "Being amazing" will get no one to heaven, because without Jesus Christ covering our sins, even the most amazing people are still unholy sinners. . Now, you might think I'm attacking your FIL. Nope, not at all. He's probably everything you say he is. I'd probably enjoy meeting him. But he is also what the Bible says he is: lost, wretched, self-seeking (in ways you and I don't see outwardly), without hope, without life, and dead in his sins and trespasses. . In the end, it's now about how amazing any of us it, but rather how holy God is, how great his love is, and how he did everything we need for salvation. Trust him: that's it, and that's the only "it" as well. Salvation is not Jesus + being an amazing person. . It's a tough thing for us humans to swallow because we are not God and do not have his perspective. We see people who are kind or kinder than we are and think, "Surely this person wouldn't spend an eternity in Hell" because we're afraid that if the kinder person is in danger, then so are we. This is a clear lack of understanding of the Gospel, because we turn it into a game of moral comparison: me vs. someone else. Am I better than Joe? Is Joe better than me? If Joe is better than me, will I be saved? This totally missed the Gospel which says, "It is by GRACE you have been saved...not of works, lest no man should boast." It doesn't matter that Mother Teresa fed 10,000 more people than you or me. What matters is which of us trusted in Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of sins, life, and salvation? If we all did, then we are all saved. If any one of us does not, then as far as the Bible says, we are not saved regardless of how many "good deeds" we did. . The Bible tells us clearly what God's view of sin is and how it separates all mankind from him, and that without Jesus as our Savior we are lost. Good works and kind personality do not cover the multitude of sins, the worst of which is violating the greatest Commandment: "Love the Lord Your God with all your heart, mind, soul and strength." All non-Christians violate this command every second of every day for their entire life. . So continue to witness to your FIL. I'm assuming he's still alive and therefore there is yet time for your witness to bring him to faith. Does he desire to know the Way, the Truth, and the Life? It sounds like everything you have said indicates he does not. But we do not give up hope. Keep praying, keep witnessing. That is all we are called to do.
I am also on this quest to know what happens to the heathen. I have a very hard time accepting the idea that a very good person like your father in law,. Will one day die,. And find himself in hell. If God is a merciful god,. He would t do that. I think now,. That there is a hell,. There are people that will never ever ever want anything to do with God. And I now believe God knows everyones heart and true intentions,. Yes,. No one will be saved without Jesus in their heart. But he knows who will receive him and who will reject him even if they don't hear about Jesus or are apparently apathetic to him in this life. This is just my opinion. I don't know if I'm right.
My bestfriend is also seems to be a good person, but the truth is, everyone is a sinner, he is a good person, but he's not perfect either, no one is perfect enough to earn heaven but only by God's grace. for me it is make sense if the preacher say that those people wouldn't believe in the truth anyway, because I have shared the gospel to my bestfriend multiple times, he rejected it multiple times, but I have prayed for him that may God open his heart. God is just, whatever is the actual answer or whatever happens, I believe God judge fairly, for He sees the heart, unlike us.
@@cerenyosephinawow you can do it! For Asians it's a different environment but I think it's hard for anyone..but just keep going at your friend that would be cool to see millions of Asian Christians
I watched Dr. Turek preach an in depth sermon on this question live, last month. SO GOOD!! Even met him afterwards to speak more about it. This objection really is just another atheist excuse for hedonism as they typically are. God Bless the ministries of Cross Examined and others, intellectually making the case for Christ ❤️
Atheists are also selfish/self-centered narcissists, just me/myself & I & narcissists make poor spouses, parents, friends, workmates, neighbors, bosses, managers & other professions!!
Far and few, you ask with a true honesty you will be told Truth, wisdom, understanding! Knowledge! But if there is any idea that you have of self power, dominace, greatness for you ,no your on the wrong track. He is about love with rightousnesss not the fake love they preach some do.
@@jw_malembeka i think u should check them out. One of them i remember is 'Magdalena the lioness' . And also theres this song ' Yahweh' by the band Stryper where they sing "Yahweh Yahweh" n when reverse it says "satan satan". So I'm not sure whom r they worshipping
Me and my girlfriend were discussing this earlier tonight. Yeshua allowed me the chance to speak of him to her for the first time regarding faith. Praise our Lord YHWY for his wisdom and strength
@Martin Luther "Why is bone cancer in children wrong if there is no God?" It isn't. Disease are not "wrong" they just are. But IF your "god" exists, and sits by doing absolutely nothing while children suffer...what good is it? "The strongest will survive, who cares about children succeed and do your best and the weak who get cancer and die that's too bad we have to work for the good of the population as a whole not the weakest links" Well, that's a pretty shitty mentality you have there. "If you think what I said was harsh, I am just repeating the philosophy of the atheist Pol Pot and Stalin who destroyed more lives in the 20th century than every previous war in history combined" Ok...and? They were also both men, which is about as relevant. But nice red herrings and strawmen there! ___
@Martin Luther "We get our morality from God" Uh...no, no we don't. "if there is no God morality is not objective it is subjective based on what each individual feels." Exactly. And then we as humans collectively decide what is and isn't good or bad, so it's situational objectivity based on subjective and relative morality. "If you can say bone cancer in children is objectively bad" I'm not...I am saying 1. If I were a god, I would not have created it in the first place, or 2. If I had the power to eradicate it or save even ONE child, that there is no way I could just sit by and watch. But it all makes perfect sense if _no god exists._ "then you are actually proving the existence of a God who is the standard of goodness." No I am not, and no it is not...the "god' of the Bible is a deplorable character, and its only redeeming factor is that there is no good reason to believe it even exists. ___
The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM! Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings! Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21 Jesus said the Father is the only true God! John 17 3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent. RSV Only-monos God-theos Monos theos Monotheism The Father Jesus is the one sent by the true God (the Father)! Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has a God! Jesus has a God! Jesus died! God can’t die! God raised Jesus from the dead!
Like Frank said: "We can trust & rest in God's justice & love." In the VERY END, no one will be judged unjustly. But as he ALSO said, "we know what DOES save people - Jesus Christ. So we need to continue preaching him." I love it Frank! Keep up the great work my brother!
@@incredulouspasta3304 Just read it and I dont see any eternal punishment. Can you explain a little more and better? I do see where it mentions eonian (this is the correct translation and means for an age determined by God not eternal with no end) The fire it mentions refers to the lake of fire where all men and angels will be purified so they may enter Gods New Earth. Hope this puts you on the right path and you will see the Glory of the Gospel of Yeshua the Christ.
I always struggled with this question (to be 100% honest wit myself), until I read this passage out of Luke 12:47-48 "And that servant who knew his master’s will, and did not prepare himself or do according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes. But he who did not know, yet committed things deserving of stripes, shall be beaten with few. For everyone to whom much is given, from him much will be required; and to whom much has been committed, of him they will ask the more. (Luke 12:47-48 NKJV) Trust it will help somebody 🐝
I heard a story on which this guy thought is there a God and when he was on his porch he just asked in his heart and was listening, and he said it was as if the wind and rocks spoke of God and called him to change his life. he swore that they spoke of Jesus' name and what he did. so that made me think when I heard of it.
The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM! Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings! Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21 Jesus said the Father is the only true God! John 17 3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent. RSV Only-monos God-theos Monos theos Monotheism The Father Jesus is the one sent by the true God (the Father)! Jesus never claimed to be God, Jesus said he has a God! Jesus has a God! Jesus died! God can’t die! God raised Jesus from the dead!
@@jakester5272 Who is Jesus repeatedly referring to as “my God”? Rev 3 12 He who conquers, I will make him a pillar in the temple of my God; never shall he go out of it, and I will write on him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem which comes down from my God out of heaven, and my own new name. Who is Peter and Paul referring to as “the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ”? Rom 15 6 that together you may with one voice glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. 2 Cor 1 3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort, 2 Cor 11 31 The God and Father of the Lord Jesus, he who is blessed for ever, knows that I do not lie. Eph 1 3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places, 1 Pet 1 3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! According to his great mercy, he has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
@@mitchellc4Philippians 2:5-8 In your relationships with one another, have the same mindset as Christ Jesus:(A) 6 Who, being IN VERY NATURE GOD,(B) did not consider EQUALITY with God(C) something to be used to his own advantage; 7 rather, he made himself nothing(D) by taking the very nature[b] of a servant,(E) being made in human likeness.(F) 8 And being found in appearance as a man, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to death(G)- even death on a cross! It’s as simple as that,when Jesus came to earth he took on a subservient role to his father, although he is God himself also.
@@ajs3657 Scholars view this two ways Your way And From University of St. Thomas “A second group of biblical scholars argues that in Phil 2:6-11 Paul (or whoever authored the hymn) was not describing a pre-existent, divine being but rather the earthly Jesus of Nazareth. These scholars generally interpret the periscope as exhibiting a "Second Adam" Christology. According to this Christology, the earthly Jesus described in the hymn did not have equality with God. Christ made a choice - unlike the Adam of Genesis - not to grasp at equality with God, but to be obedient to God by accepting death.” Or else you read “God humbled himself to God, and God obeyed God all the way until God died, and because God obeyed God so well, God exalted God to his right hand” I mean realistically is Paul telling believers to “have this mindset, pretend you’re God Almighty. You transform yourself into a dual nature human being.” Or “Have this mindset, pretend you’re born a royal king, but instead of demanding everyone serve you, you serve them” - Jesus HAS a God Who is his God? Rom 15 6 that together you may with one voice glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. Eph 1 17 that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give you a spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the knowledge of him, 2 Cor 1 3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort, Col 1 3 We always thank God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, when we pray for you, 1 Pet 1 3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! According to his great mercy, he has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
Every Christian for most of their lives lived for themselves not seeking God. But yet somehow they still 'found' Jesus. How did they find Jesus? They didn't. Jesus pursued them until they came to the knowledge of truth & then they got born again. This can take time. It took 32 years for me & it can take less time for some & more time for others but just remember that we are born with a sin nature & that sin nature does not want Jesus but when we are convicted by God & the light bulb goes on we realize how lost we are without God then we get born again. I don't agree with Frank that if someone isn't seeking God then they don't want Him & they will probably die in their sin. I believe they are following their sin nature & haven't had that conviction yet but when they do they will get born again. If you want your brother to be saved, God wants him to be saved even more & He will keep pursuing him until the day your brother dies. All you can do is keep displaying the love of Christ by living a similar life that Christ did. I heard someone say that the best gospel preached is the one lived. You should tell him about Jesus but more importantly, demonstrate the gospel by the life you life & through that, God can convict his heart which could cause him to repent & turn to Christ for salvation. Hope this helps.
@@Rob__James GOD found me in the darkness. First morning I woke up, something was wrong. I couldn't figure it out. The next morning I woke up I was scared. Within 10 seconds I saw myself in complete darkness not knowing where I was, where I was going, and there for eternity. 6 months a Christian at the age of 55. GOD found me
I don't know if I can express this right but I'll try. When I was young, God gave me a chance to become a good Christian. I declined and took my own path which wasn't that close to him. God however like me a lot and gave me a second chance later on that only a few can get it. So thanks to Him I took the second chance and became a good Christian. Now I have to give twice as much and will be judged twice as hard. So for those who have never heard He is the only one to know how to judge them... I could continue but I believe it;s enough!
The Bible tells us that God writes himself on the conscience of every man. Definition of conscience: Am inner feeling or voice viewed as acting as a guide to the rightness or wrongness of one’s behavior. There may be people that never hear the gospel, but nobody will be able to honestly say “I didn’t know” on judgement day.
No One It's embarrassing that you actually came here to embarass yourself while trying to embarrass others for publicly expressing their religious views.
So are you saying that those who have ‘never heard the gospel’ will be judged on their behaviour? And what about those who die as babies, or the aborted or miscarried? What about the severely mentally handicapped?
William WALLIS! Well in that case, it follows that the best thing that can happen to a person is for them to die as a baby, thus being “spared judgement” and automatically go to heaven. After all, if they live beyond the age of reason, the chances are they won’t go to heaven (the narrow path and all that).
@@mr16325 Mathew 24:14 But Darla is still reading it wrong. It says every nation not every person. Every nation has already heard the gospel. Regardless of that there were times where that had not happened yet and people died in those times, those people may be judged by their deeds but this i cannot say for certain.
so that means he will never come back because of the babies who were aborted or were miscarried or were stillborn who will never read the bible in life
The words " most people aren't seeking God " is so true. I've thought about God and Heaven my whole life. Most people I talk to are really not interested in talking about God or Heaven. They say we should enjoy this life, and not worry about the next. Boy are they wrong in their thinking. They should worry about the afterlife, and not worry so much about this one. We are literally gone in the blink of an eye. Humans have so few decades of life, but most aren't interested in eternity at all.😇😇😇😇
Vicky Biagini I absolutely agree... and this Bible verse explains that: John 3:19 says: “This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.” They hope there is no moral God that will judge them once this temporarily life is over, so they can live the “free life”, and choose their sins over righteousness. No matter with how many logical arguments you come up with, atheists will always contradict the obvious because they want to believe in their own made up truth, instead of THE REAL TRUTH. We need to pray for the unbelievers. God bless you.
"Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience - those too may achieve eternal salvation." (Catholic Catechism 337) "Although in ways known to himself God can lead those who, through no fault of their own, are ignorant of the Gospel, to that faith without which it is impossible to please him, the Church still has the obligation and also the sacred right to evangelize all men." (Catholic Catechism 338)
Jesus said. In vein you worship me teaching for doctrine the commandments of men. Catholic xatechisms are the doctrines of men. They go against the teachings of jesus and are false. Christ is your only mefiator not mary. Statues are ifolatty and a sin . You can pray to God alone not mary nor saints. Consider reading a 66 book bible cover to cover praying and asking Jesus and the holy spirit to shiw you its truth .the bible command we test everything against scripture. Dont take my sord for it or be offended read the bible cover to cover pray asj Jesus for jesus said many false christs eould arise and deceive many .false teachers are the number one warning in scripture and you are warned not yo add or take away from scripture .roman catjolicim adds many item that are the exact oppposite if what jesus taught. A roman catholic priest once after finishing hus training realized in all the years he trained he had never read the bible just the catechisms so he set oit to actually read the bible cover to cover and discovered everything he had been taught as a priest was the exact opposite of what the bible teaches that is what began the protest against rome or protestantism.just actually reading the bible. We are saved by grace through faith it is the GIFT of God that no man may boast . Ephesians..yet catholic catechism proniunces anathema on anyone eho belives this scripture. Jesus said you must be born again. John 3:16 for God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that whoever belives might not perish but have everlasting life..he who belives is not condemned but he who belives not is condemned already. Repeant and belive the gospel
From when I was very young, I would simply pray to the highest of the high, the conversation grew from there, and I was led like a horse, in education, work and life, but I was also told I would not be adopted, until I gave myself to His Son, I obey, and I couldn't be happier than with my Lord. I can imagine were I would be with out Father, Son, Holy spirit, I'd rather be here.
This man is brilliant. He gave the exact answer I give people when asked this question, but was also able to back it up with scripture. Now I have a better understanding for my own answers. 😇
@@billybob-ro6qf who gave all of us sin ? Why does a carpenter being executed in Judea mean we are sin free? God executes his own son to free us from sin- why didn’t he just forgive us ? He’s god after all? Harry Potter is more credible than the silly fairy story.
There's a better answer for this. Frank avoids discussing it though because it will lead you toward a particular Christian denomination, but its in everyone's bibles. 1 Peter 4:6, KJV: "For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit."
Perfect response but true. I sent Frank’s video to someone I thought was seeking. He went ballistic...as someone told me, I touched the 3rd rail in his heart. He has yet to seek vs. reject.
God will judge them by their conscience of right and wrong. Romans 2:14-15: Even Gentiles, who do not have God’s written law, show that they know his law when they instinctively obey it, even without having heard it. They demonstrate that God’s law is written in their hearts, for their own conscience and thoughts either accuse them or tell them they are doing right.
There's a better answer for this. Frank avoids discussing it though because it will lead you toward a particular Christian denomination, but its in everyone's bibles. 1 Peter 4:6, KJV: "For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit."
Tell me about it. This person in my life said, “You’re right. Nobody controls my life” After I had said that most people don’t believe in God because there’s a lack of evidence but because they love to do what they want to do and hate the fact that they aren’t in control of their lives. It shattered my heart.
Yeah or they think I'm a good person so I know I'm going to be in heaven. Yeah ! And what was Satan thinking too??? Where's he going where he will never return!!!!!!
Wow the Verse he gave and the little survey he gave , completely nailed it. best answer Ive ever heard for this question. wonderful video for my toolkit.
@@STAMPA_ Of course it is BUT this is talking about those that worship the CREATION more than the CREATOR that'll try and say they didn't hear the WORD to which God will say, Take a stiff look around you. You think this just happened? REALLY? They'll not get by on a so-called technicality.
Lewie McNeely you can not be saved from creation alone then a lot of people would go who don’t believe in Jesus but “a god”. Creation points to god but Jesus is salvation. You cannot be saved unless you hear about Christianity or Jesus Christ as lord
Wow..I got the answer i have been seeking for,thank you very much Cross Examined;i need not wory about people of the old Testament outside the Judae Law and people who have never Heard the Gospel and will never hear the gospel in their lifetime;God is just so I believe He will give everyone a chance for Knowing Him in whatever way possible 🙏
My response would be, "Do you care about those who have never heard? Because every Christians Job is to share the gospel to every person. If you care then join us in sharing the good news." Much love!
That's a weird response, does not God teach us to love and even more so love our enemies? How is saying "do you care" anything remotely close to love? If God wants something, He gets it done, period.
@@O_tropos What happened to free will? We have free will to reject God or God already decided we would reject him and never gave some people the choice? Both doesn't make sense. At what point does it take for you people to step back and start thinking for yourselves, "hmmm, this makes no sense. That's fishy."
Frank Tureky is almost unmatched in answering morale questions about God, just brilliant. Never I have ever heard anyone give such a brilliant explanation. When I would be asked this question I would only say "God is inherent, they will realize that all the rituals and spirits are not adding up and therefore identify God though not know his exact biblical name and I believe God will have mercy on them because they at least recognized and separated their hearts from their culture. Maybe not their actions but I trust God to do the right thing" Essentially Frank Turek said it better than me haha
Every single member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints can answer this question. 1 Peter 4:6 is a start. Read also 1 Corinthians 15:29 and 1 Peter 3:18-20. It's all in the Bible that we all believe in. God IS no respecter of persons, and EVERYONE will get an opportunity to accept Jesus Christ and receive salvation, if they choose it. This good man speaks the truth! There is just more to it :)
He has saved us and called us to a holy life-not because of anything we have done but because of his own purpose and grace. This grace was given us in Christ Jesus before the beginning of time 2 Timothy 1:9
Something else worth noting is the many stories coming out of the Middle East recently, where it is very difficult to get a missionary in there. So as a result, Jesus is reaching out to these people in dreams and visions, something that he has likely done for all people throughout all time that were unreachable by evangelist. Also, because he has placed an innate sense into the heart of every man that he is, and his law is written in our conscience, I have every reason to believe there is grace for those who were not reached by a Christian with the gospel message, that they would accept God as they perceive him, and abide in his ways to the best of their ability. The bottom line is that God is not willing that any should perish, and every opportunity will be made for anyone that is in any way open to receive him.
Acts 17-34 proves this but I will quote vs 30 “30 Therefore, although God has overlooked such times of ignorance, he now commands all people everywhere to repent,” Back in Abraham’s day there were believers in God everywhere (Melchizedek-an actual priest). We know He overlooks the “ignorance”, but elsewhere idol worship is not excused. Do we have evidence from of old, like Athens and “the unknown god”? Something extra biblical?
@James Brice , yessir, we as a fellowship have sent several pastors into lndia to start churches there, and all are THRIVING! It's absolutely glorious to see video of services there, showing the same God we worship being worshipped, and touching the lives of these precious people! I love it! It's dicey to do this, but worth it. Indigenous works are now being established as we try to take full advantage of this before this door of opportunity closes on us.
“People who don’t want to seek the truth about God, won’t find Him, their pursuit is for their own happiness. Their heart rejects God even if HE were to come.” Abba, I pray you deliver YOUR people that CRY OUT for you. In Jesus Christ Name.
I AGREE, my friend! "The Lord searches every heart and understands every desire and every thought. If you seek him, he will be found by you" (1 Chronicles 28:9).
1st peter 4:6 For this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit.”
@@jeziscricket4448 1) If Jesus is only salvation, then God is unfair, because Americas, South Africa, Far East, North Europe, Oceania were kept in dark, never heard about Jesus for 1500 years. 2) If people can be saved without Jesus, then Bible is unnecessary. 3) If Bible is necessary to make people better beings and increase their chance of heaven, then God is again unfair for providing such book to some and not to others.
@@tumpar3987 I watched it. I don't understand his point made in 3:09. God determined where everyone will live. He did that so people will perhaps reach to him (what does it mean perhaps, isn't he all-knowing?). Like I said, either Jesus is only path, which would be unjust or he is not the only way, which would make gospel unnecessary. If God already knows would someone accept Jesus or not, as this video suggests, then the whole Bible is unnecessary, because what's the point of telling somebody to accept God, if God already knows would that person accept him or not.
I know many who don't want to know. They just are dogmatic. Or they choose to turn away from Gods word. They make God up to be what they want Him to be. This mushy God that loves everybody and is okay with their sin which they don't believe is sin.
So God sent himself to kill himself as a sacrifice to himself in order to appease a problem he created and yet still cant forgive sin? Worse that Hitler
@@joelchapman8622 God did not create the problem of sin. That would imply that he is capable of sinning which would not make him God. He allowed through Adam to let sin enter the world to demonstrate his love and mercy and grace and give himself as a perfect sacrifice to redeem a people for his own. It pleases God to put all his attributes on display, his justice and wrath in the condemnation of those whoo do not seek forgiveness and his mercy and grace to those who do.
Have you read the bible? It holds no truth value. There are way to many logical impossibilities in the bible and what people say about it. Those logical error make it implausible to say the least
@@adamboyd5190 That's makes no sense smh. If God created everything, then he's responsible for sin and everything that exists and has happened. You even said that: "He allowed through Adam to let sin enter the world to demonstrate his love and mercy and give himself as a perfect sacrifice to redeem a people for his own." This comment alone contradict what hour trying to say lol. How do u even know that you're God in incapable of sinning or causing sin? Does Gid sin? If he does, then he's impotent
He makes very good points. I relate this for example to, that there are many muslims whose testimonies about becoming Christians show that God is good and on a active search for those who have a active will to search for the truth. Also, in todays modern world, most of humans have heard of Jesus, maybe not in detail, but they've probably heard about him.
Woooo, I love this! I also have wondered what about people before Jesus was born. What was the status of their salvation or lack there of? This video answered my questions and then some. Thank you, Frank for slapping the fire out of me with all of your Godly knowledge and wisdom! Amen!
This subject is already touched upon by Paul, in Romans chapter 4, and in Galatians, if I recall correctly. But, I agree it's GREAT to have a modern day, well educated Christian explain this in more 'current' terms. There's nothing wrong with THAT! "So he gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the pastors and teachers, to equip his people for works of service, so that the body of Christ may be built up" (Ephesians 4:11,12). I've gained from Frank MYSELF, over the years.
God is omnipotent, omnipresent and omniscient. Whatever He does is done from the beginning of time to the end, is done everywhere and affects everyone. There are no human beings that are doomed by default. All have a conscience, the voice of God inside their heart, and are judged by the condition of their heart at the end of their life.
No man is without excuse because the Law has been written in our hearts (Hebrews 10:16), for BY INSTINCT we know what's good and evil, even with a man who has no belief. But what we really need to be concerned about is our own Judgement. God will have a judgement for those within and outside the Church: (1Corinthians 5:12-13 12What business of mine is it to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? 13God will judge those outside. “Expel the wicked man from among you.”)
AMEN!!! Conscience. God gave one to EVERY human being & His laws are there, within. ...conscience meaning; WITH knowledge. EVERYONE knows. There will be no excuses. MOST typically just don't like it because they prefer to PLAY GOD, themselves. ...NOT gonna make it with THAT perspective. ...Lucifer did the same; he's DOOMED. SURRENDER to Jesus for Salvation (if you want to actually LIVE). ..."come with me if you want to live" Terminator. 😂 Seriously though, blessings in Jesus!🙋 💔👣👣💝💖
@@chrissonofpear1384 Uhh..., Numbers 11:19 was a punishment for REBELLING against Yah, and 2 Samuel 15:15 was when Saul DISOBEYED Yah. So, what's the common denominator? You hate the punishment for the sins committed. So, how can Yahuah be a Just God if He would let anyone get away with sins without consequences.
@@shellbellbutterfly Evidence please. Otherwise It is just another baseless assertion. I can say that the belief that everyone knows is actually Put in believers hearts fun the devil. I have as much proof of my claim as you do of yours.
If anyone wants to study the bible find a good one on youtube. Les Feldick is an older gentleman no denomination is one. Many have their studies online for all to read free.
I trust God because I know nothing but he is eternal perfect and just, but one thing I struggle with this is if God knows that these people won’t believe the gospel, and therefore end up in hell why would he create them knowing this ?
Soylent Green God is sovereign. His ways and thoughts are beyond ours. There are things we can know and others are not revealed to us. But we do know God is merciful and just. He has a purpose for everything He does and allows. Example the existence of evil. If everyone accepted God and none rejected Him would evil exist? There would be no need for free will. All would have already chose God. We cannot always know beyond the scriptures Gods ways. We must accept what God has presented in His Word and leave it at that. He knows what He is doing.
What we call death is having no vitals but God could make a millisecond seem like a lifetime. What's to say God reveals His Love which is Jesus in that millisecond before you're actually dead dead. I believe God is pure just and merciful and it will be a total rejection of the full truth revealed to them. Not just some blind faith. Just one possibility out of millions. Maybe a split second before you die Jesus comes to you and offers Salvation and shows what He's done for you.
Because of His character. People always want to say "God is love" and yet they forget about all of His other aspects. He is also holy, mighty, righteous, merciful, and just. How do we know that He is any of these things? Anybody can say that they are merciful or mighty, but there is a huge difference between saying you are something and SHOWING that you are what you claim. God's salvation of some people shows that He can be merciful (For he says to Moses, "I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion." Romans 9:15), sparing them from eternal punishment. He has shown that He is mighty through the creation around us, parting the red sea, being able to raise the dead, etc. But the one characteristic that most people don't want to acknowledge is that He is JUST. How do you determine whether a judge is just? If he let everyone off, then you would say that he isn't doing his responsibility of condemning criminals. However, if he condemned even the innocent, you would call him unjust. The only way to know if a judge is just is whether or not he punishes those who need to be punished and acquits those who are innocent. In the same way, God reveals His glory and character by punishing the wicked and redeeming the innocent. Some people were made for the explicit purpose of exhibiting the justice of God. But we have to keep in mind that nobody forced them to do wrong. Their nature was always to do wrong. We were all born that way.
There's a better answer for this. Frank avoids discussing it though because it will lead you toward a particular Christian denomination, but its in everyone's bibles. 1 Peter 4:6, KJV: "For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit."
Romans 3:11-12 “no one understands; no one seeks for God. All have turned aside; together they have become worthless; no one does good, not even one.” He makes a great point in that those who have morally rejected the gospel have turned aside and does not actively seek God. I question the truthfulness of those 3 1/2 hands in that room. Most everyone I know that has rejected Christ and do not seek God are either hostile or completely unresponsive to the gospel.
I heard a story once(pretty sure it's true, and not just for illustration) of an Eskimo or Inuit man, who had one day realized that their local "religion" wasn't true, and thought that there was a god similar to what is described in bible. Shortly after this revelation, a missionary happened to come to his village, and he accepted Christianity with open arms. Those who seek shall find.
@TheEnd I'm not sure if your statement was an actual question, or just a statement for thought. Either way I'll add this it, who is to say He is not. It is very true of what Mr. Turrek (?) was implying, that it matters if a person is truly seeking after God. It is also supported by scripture, Hebrews 11:6. There are allot of things happening behind the scenes that are not reported upon and that we as a group, as a society, or as Christians are unaware of. Just because you don't hear about it doesn't mean that it isn't happening.
@TheEnd In the case of American Indians, one thing that you might consider, and again it is just conjecture, is "pride". If you believe in the scriptures to be true, then according to them God resists the proud, James 4:6. Again, we do not know, as of yet, who has and has not earnestly, humbly, and with all sincerity sought after God. Even if that person is our best friend or spouse, only God knows truly what is in one's heart and thoughts.
@TheEnd hey man , the thing is , can you imagine a man just teleporting in front of a bunch of Native Americans , they probably would have started worshiping him lol which would have been counter productive , the point Daniel stated is pretty accurate to , they were pretty prideful , Philip probably would have died , it just goes back to people actually wanting to know the truth
Same thing happened to me I'm from India, my city was full of idols I was seeking true God I shifted to new house where my neighbor were christians and I found the truth
At some time they will hear it Matthew 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.
The fourth point is quite tasteless, and the quoted verse doesn't say what Dr Turek interprets it as. To suggest that God would create some people and then deny them the "privilege" of hearing the gospel (since he determined the time and place they would be born and exist) because they wouldn't have believed it anyway sounds both unscriptural and rather tasteless. It's classic escapism to me. It's a point I would advise any Christian theist attempting to answer the lady's question never to bring up to an atheist. Former Christian here.
Roman's 2:12-16 Read it when you get the chance. Those who haven't heard will be judged by their conscience. This is the only time God allows a morally good person who hasn't accepted Jesus to get to Heaven. Those who have heard the law will be judged under it and those who haven't will be judged by the things they do because God has written right and wrong on all of our hearts.
@@jc1240 That means the gospel was not necessary in the first place, doesn't it? Why create people who wouldn't believe the gospel anyway, knowing they'd be doomed in the end? Isn't that malevolent? And isn't it unfair to give out the same eternal punishment to those who heard but rejected and those who never heard at all on the grounds of "oh, they wouldn't have believed anyway"? Does this not sound like a subtle kind of Calvinism, which a lot of modern Protestant Christians reject?
j c If you include the following in the list of “those who haven’t heard”: those who die as babies; the aborted and the miscarried; the severely mentally handicapped; those who lived before Jesus and those born into cultures where they never hear of Jesus, given that this list comprises the vast majority of those who have lived, and contains the same proportion of “morally good people”, it follows statistically that one is more likely to get to heaven if one HASN’T accepted Jesus
You are probably not a former Christian. I am not convinced that former Christians exist. You probably never knew Jesus because you didn't surrender your entire life to him.
“Then Isaiah is very bold and says, “I HAVE BEEN FOUND BY THOSE WHO DID NOT SEEK M E; I HAVE SHOWN M YSELF TO THOSE WHO DID NOT [consciously] ASK FOR M E.”” Romans 10:20 AMP
Exactly. We don't choose God, God chooses us. We're the adopted children of God. Who does the adopting? The child or the parent? We're born again. What did you contribute to your birth? We're pardoned criminals. Who chooses which criminal gets pardoned? The criminal or the judge?
@@jettdaniel8043 If it is God's will that everyone be saved, why isn't everyone saved? Is it because He wills it, but is unable to save? Surely, if God could take a stubborn murderous sinner like Paul and turn him around regardless of his own will, why doesn't God do this for everyone? You go about calling biblical doctrines satanic, because you don't know the Bible. Or, when you are confronted with Biblical truth, you refuse to acknowledge what it says. Jesus Himself said in John 10 that "You *cannot* come to me, because you are not of my sheep." Does the sheep choose the Sheppard, or the Sheppard the sheep? The core of the original sin in Genesis was that man wanted God's sovereignty for himself. Those who reject the doctrine of divine election, does so, because they are not fully prepared to give up that sovereignty. They insist to make salvation a matter of human choice, rather than Divine grace.
@@Hannodb1961 Hey Hanon! It is God's will that everyone is saved [See 1 Tim 2:4 & 2 Pet 3:9]. However, he has given his creation free will, if Calvinism is true, mankind does not have freewill. This completely contradicts: "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him shout not perish, but have everlasting life" [John 3:16]. Note in that verse: "whosoever believeth", it doesn't say: 'the elect of God only' whoever meaning the whole world, God died for the whole world! Don't be silly! Of course the Lord is able to save: "Behold, the LORD's hand is not shortened, that it cannot save;…" [Isa 59:1]. Paul was extremely zealous for the Lord; he loved truth and righteousness but was just ignorant to the fact that the Lord is Jesus, you can't say it was regardless of his own will that does not make sense. Not everyone gets blinded on the road to Damascus (literally), so everyone has a different experience of coming into relation with the Lord. It is a satanic doctrine because it is not biblical, it goes against so many Scriptures of the Bible. It seems you are a Calvinist which is why you got defensive at my comment; you literally believe God predestined people to go to heaven and hell, wiping away their free will because they have no say in the matter. The Pharisees were not of Jesus' sheep because they rejected Jesus, which is rejecting God. The same way an atheist today who rejects God is not of God's sheep because they lack repentance and faith. I chose the Lord Jesus, I decided to follow him, and then he chooses to adopt me if I met his criteria, namely, coming to him in a broken, humble state, admitting I'm a sinner and worthy of hell, and putting my trust in his finished work upon the cross. As I obeyed the gospel, now he chose me, and imparted his Holy Spirit within me. Salvation is a matter of human choice, that is how you receive God's grace. Hope this made some sense to you!
PART 1: _However, he has given his creation free will, if Calvinism is true, mankind does not have freewill._ We have a will, but it is not free. If you had free will, why can't you just freely choose to stop sinning all together? The fact that you can't means there are limits to what your will can and cannot do, and so it is not free. What does the Bible say about our will? "Jesus answered them, "Most assuredly, I say to you, whoever commits sin is a slave of sin." - John 8:34. We have a will, but our will is enslaved to sinful desires. To put it simply: When you give a lion a choice between Salad and meat, which will he choose? Meat, ofcause. Does that mean he has no will, it isn't him that made the choice? No. It means he made a choice _based on his nature._ Our nature is sinful, and we _cannot_ come to faith in God unless God grants it (John 6:36-37,39-40,44-45,63,65) _This completely contradicts: "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him shout not perish, but have everlasting life" [John 3:16]_ I'm not sure why people who reject the Biblical doctrine of divine election loves to quote this verse, because not only does it not address the matter, there is no contradiction here. The contradiction is solely with your own tradition, not the Bible. No one is denying that everyone who believes will be saved, that is not in question here. The Question here is where does that faith come from? Is it human choice to believe, or - as Eph 2:8-10 says - is it a gift from God? Lets go to a passage where John actually _does_ address the matter. But to all who did receive Him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God, who were born *_not_** of blood, **_not_** of the will of the flesh **_nor_** of the will of man, **_but of God_* John 1:12-13 Three times, John emphasize that faith is _not_ the product of the human will, but the result of being born again. Coming even closer to John 3:!6, in the very same chapter, Jesus says: "Truly, Truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he *cannot* see the kingdom of God." Being born is not dependent on your will, it is something that happens to you. The baby do not have the choice to come into existence or to stay in the womb. It is also interesting that you would refer to 2 Peter 3:9, because that verse ALSO does not support your position. The context of this passage is why the second coming has not occurred yet. Peter's answer is that God is waiting for all to be saved. The question here is: Who is this "all"? If this were to mean all people, then God has already failed when Peter wrote it, because millions are already dead and lost. Also, this provides no answer, because unless the human race is annihilated by some catastrophic event, there will always be more people who could potentially come to Christ, so the second coming will never happen. However, since Peter are addressing believers, the "all" can also refer to the elect. Then his answer makes sense, because there is a finite amount of chosen people, and once the last of that number is saved, the second coming will occur. This is also in line with what Jesus said: He will loose *none* of those whom the Father has given Him. _Paul was extremely zealous for the Lord; he loved truth and righteousness but was just ignorant to the fact that the Lord is Jesus, you can't say it was regardless of his own will that does not make sense_ So, are you seriously proposing that Paul had an option to say "No" to Jesus at this point? Did God respect human choice when Moses said no at the burning bush, or when Jeremiah said he is too young, or when Eliah had enough?
2 Peter 2:21 For it would have been better for them never to have known the way of righteousness than after knowing it to turn back from the holy commandment delivered to them.
Wait... So, If there is a chance that God knew these people wouldn't believe the Gospel even If they knew about It, How is that not an obstacle to the idea of Free Will and the benevolence of God? Why would God create beings that he already knows are doomed to an eternal after life of pain and suffering?
An all loving God would not force anyone to love or follow Him. He knows what will happen, yet He didn't force anyone to make any decision. It is not logically possible for God to create a world where everyone is completely free, AND everyone chooses to love and believe im Him. So... There is no love without free will, and there is no free will without choice. There is no real choice if there is only one option: love and believe in God.
This is a massive problem for Calvanists, who believe that God uses His sovereignty to pick and choose who will and will not be saved before they were even born, but this isn't very loving, is it? "I love you, but I'm going to choose your path for you, and your path leads to eternal separation from Me." This is why I believe in Molonism, which simply put, means that God is indeed sovereign, and He knows exactly what will happen, but He sets aside some of His power to control, to allow us to be free creatures and choose our own path. This is the only view to me that is really consistent with His perfectly loving nature as described in the Gospel
nature's principle is that when the spermatozoid encouters and ovule, it brings forth a child. So why would God stop everybody who's called to exist? Sometimes God lets unbelievers or evil people exist because later, their sons will be believers, so God doesn't want to lose the future servants. You getit?
It’s another perspective that we miss I feel. We are quick to point at God for those people that don’t get to hear, but in reality it’s our fault. Our sinful nature to be selfish and not carrying out his great commission. In a perfect world, every Christian would have a sense of urgency to give up our worldly lives in order to preach the gospel, but our short comings have resulted in a harvest that is plentiful but few workers willing to work.
There's a better answer for this. Frank avoids discussing it though because it will lead you toward a particular Christian denomination, but its in everyone's bibles, and it avoids the "God creates people just to burn them for eternity" argument by atheists. 1 Peter 4:6, KJV: "For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit."
I had this question as well till I attended one of his lectures and noticed that the vids uploaded to RU-vid are edited to cut out the time he types in or searches for the material.
GOD IS LOVE,,,,,,,,He knew about all those people who never heard the gospel even before they were born! HE definitely knows what he has to do that i believe 😃😃
I respectfully submit that I am one of those who "relentlessly pursue truth", yet fail to believe in the existence of God or any other supernatural entity. To be clear, I must add that I do not think that those who do believe are unintelligent. I find civil, thoughtful discourse to be of greater value than bashing and name-calling.
My friend prepare yourself seek harder with full sincerity because if you die without being saved you will be in torment and wonder why Christians like me didn't warn you harder.
Thank goodness, it’s nice to know there are more people out there that can have civil conversations. I wouldn’t be alive if I hadn’t found God yet people dehumanize Christians who have. I’m tired of getting the message that I’m worth nothing because I’m a Christian but this society ain’t it anyway. Heaven is my home
There are many questions that mankind is unable to answer but we must believe that God will judge all things fairly and righteously, we need not to be concerned about things we don't know.
