What Are Natlan's 6 Major Tribes? [Genshin Impact Lore Theory and Speculation] (v4.6) 

I hope i can a hear a mention of peru in the future xd

mexico lore mexico lore

But she doesn't mention the Spanish part......because......that would be the MAIN lore

I get you, as a Slav, I'm waiting for Snezhnaya soo much, as Mihoyo tends to use all countries in regions as inspiration, and not one specific country, so I hope not only Russian myths, but Ukrainian, Polish, Croatian, Czech, and all other Slavic countries[I would name them all, but don't want to make this post a list.] It feels nice when cultures that are not "mainstream" are noticed.

RIGHT?? it sounds correct.

buena suerte gente uwu

@@pato_el_pato5540spanish is so much easier than nahuatl, if all the names are based off nahuatl were cooked but if it's spanish were chilling. thanks for wishing us luck tho

Huh, I’d think Spanish is easy for most people other than English

@@ft.jackjimmy7282 natlan is probably gonna be pre-columbian languages, so like nahuatl. so u get fun words like "huitzilopochtli" (i think i spelt that right) who is an aztec god

Not really. They included Ethiopian, Kenyan, Amazigh names in it too. Same thing with Mali, Zambia, Zimbabwe, Burkina Faso. So yeah not all of it has ties to Spain or Portugal. Natlan is 100% Native Americans and Africa. People are trying so hard to enforce Spain it’s so wired. The music in the trailer was literally African and they used African and South American canyon and landscape, no European.

@@WackyChuhonestly i wish it was somewhat inspired in spain a big part of mexico and peru's is influenced by the spanish.

@@WackyChuand unlike the africans or the native Americans of the north hispanicamerica wasn't a "colony"

@@WackyChu i mean depending on how you stand on leaks... The apparent Archon uses spanish matador clothes with a brazillian carnival mask. So yeah Europe (spain and portugal to be precise) are part of natlan; with portugal being the more indirect of the 2 unless people consider the empire of brazil to be portugal 2.0

@@matheusbianquincera3104 Well, if you consider that for a period during the napoleonic war when the royal family fled to Brazil they made Rio the capital of Portugal, being the only European capital out of Europe in history; you can make some connections between Brazil and Portugal. Also, an interesting point I noticed is that Iansan, the genshin character name looks a bit mixed in the spelling. She's named after the Orisha Ọya, with one of her name/ titles being Yàńsàn-án or Yansã. The curions thing is that in latin america we spell it as Iansã or Iansá, with an I; which, at least from what I could see, they don't spell it with an I in Yorubá, but with an Y (I might be wrong, but I only found mentions of it being spelled with an I in latin america, if I'm wrong feel free to correct me), and at least here in Brazil I never see anyone spelling her name with the ending "an", as we write that sound as "ã". So Iansan's name sorta seems to be a mix of the original Yorubá spelling and the latin american adaptated spelling, which I find somewhat interesting. I might be entirely wrong here and it is just spelled like that in Yorubá too as a variant of the spelling, but I couldn't find it ever being spelled like that aside from the Genshin wiki about the character.

Filipinos are basically Mexican

and to add, if it even needs to be said, is that TL is always a single sound, not two.

Correct, if you watch her livestream she talked about it when the heatwave is engulfing the SEA

@@thaqifkhirudin6610 I dont, I just come here to listen to her ideas and speculations from time to time. Genshin theories are beautiful

It's central America especially tenochtillan and mayan maybe.......that's why at the sneak peak video of Natlan they didn't show us the Architecture and demographic of the city of Natlan...not like sumeru and fontaine sneak peak......because maybe the city of natlan wasn't the residences of Natlanian Anymore......

You can check her interview with Sevvy

@@Sora-kaslana I was talking about Aster's living place, ehm...

Same, I also hope for a substantial amount of African culture in Natlan. I’ve been losing hope but the African music in the trailer made me hopeful I’ll again

@@hatguyfan22 African music? I don't think we watched the same trailer then. If you mean the trailer with the little Pokémon dragon thingies then.....my guy 🫠🫠 I'm going to take an educated guess and say you're probably not African 🤣🤣 which is cool! Totally fine! No shame, I'm sorry if my response comes off a certain way, it's just that calling that "African music" is hilarious, like genuinely funny 😂 and if you are African, then damn brother

I think natlan is like 60% african and 40% south american

@@tsunaka I will literally, genuinely, send you money if that's true but let's be real, it's far more likely to be 80% Native American and like 20% African

@@Leothemoose smh, i got african family members and have listened to the music. I've researched and studied MY culture. I'm not going to point out each region I think the music sounds like. That's too much. Sumes also pointed out the instruments used within the trailer are from Africa. Read the description of their recreation of the song. They're a musician and know what they're talking about. Do you think the Natlan trailer music has roots in South America or something? Towards the end with the guitars it literally sounds like the 90s music Lebo M would make from his album Rhythm of the Pride Lands. Sorry to blow up on you but for someone to assume MY race when I'm literally caring more about Natlan's Central/East/West/South African representation more than a lot of theorists/creators makes me kinda mad :/

correction, Wanjiru was mentioned in Talking Stick, not Unfinished Reverie. I've checked and there is no mention of Wanjiru within it.

RU-vid may have hidden my reply but this won't discourage me Before talking about the video itself, I wanna clarify that Maya is a language family like Indo-European or Sino-Tibetan, not an ethnicity like English nor a ethno-linguistic group / language branch like Germanic or Nāwatl (this also means Nāwatl doesn't have a standardized script since many Nāwatl languages are mutually unintelligible) I also wanna clarify my anthropological vocab: A tribe is a sub-group of an ethnicity which in most cases emerged from a sub-sub-group (a clan, which is an extended family) of an ethnicity. A race is a group of people that get classified as one simply because of a similar phenotype/appearance trait (like skin color), even though they might not even speak languages from the same language family or don't identify as related people themselves. A nation is sometimes just a synonym to ethnicity, but this term is used mostly for people with similar social status who live in the same area, like in a caste system or people who practice the same religions or jobs, this is where terms like "Vodun nation" or "nation of the proletariat" make sense 1:52 Now here's the thing: It is true that there is an excavation site of Tula/Tōllān/Mämeni and that the Mēxihcah referred to the Tōltēcah as their ancestors and mysticized them, but that may just was a way for the Mēxihcah to legitimize their rule, which they did pretty often to romanticize their political image, for this they also married nobles from Cōlwahcān. We don't know if the people at the locality of Tula were even Nāwatl yet alone Aztēcah (not every Nāwatlācatl group claimed that they came from Aztlān), they might have been a nation made up of both Nāwatlācah and Hñähñu (Otomi), see Twitter replies by Majora__Z about the Tōltēcah and ethnonyms on 10/30/2023 and on 03/12/2024 under a reply for him on 11/24/2023 2:02 In my orthography, it'd be Ilwicatl-Nanatzcayān. I write this because it took me some while to figure out which vowel is spoken long and that can be confusing because the Spaniards did mark pronounced syllables with the diacritic (acute), but ≠ . The Spaniards maybe also used (grave) and (circumflex), while the latter is used as a replacement for in other transcriptions for languages with long vowels like Nihon-go/Japanese but it wasn't used for Nāwatl, or leastways not in the picture of a Nāwatl text in the German Wikipedia site about Nāwatl Also, obsidian is a material used by the people of Zēmānāwac pretty often, like in weapons like the famous mācawitl (plural: mācawimeh) that was used even by Spaniards. We know it existed because there are several drawings in codexes of mācawimeh but the weapon itself was never found in any excavation sites. All pictures of that weapon IRL are modern constructed mācawimeh 6:52 Just wanted to say that _teōtl_ means 'God', the plural _tēteoh_ means 'Gods' 7:45 Not sure if this is true, but I once read in a Twitter post that Native Americans knew of fossils and I think also were the first people who saw fossils, so maybe that's the reason there are Saurians in Natlān 9:18 I sadly don't know anything about that book you mentioned, but the codexes are always good sources. The Florentine Codex / Códice Florentino / La Historia General de las Cosas de Nueva España by Fray Bernardino de Sahagún is a bilingual (Español + Nāwatl) collection of 12 books documenting Mēxihcatl religion, life, education, economics, culture, rituals, society, etc. DJPC also mentions some things that were censored in the codexes, like military failures from the Españoles/Spanish being excluded for example That shall be it. Personally, I'd love it if HoYoverse wouldn't just mish-mash cultures together that have nothing to do with each other like in Sumeru, but props to them that they actually used African instruments like the marimba (a type of xylophone) and genres like afrobeats. I wish you all a happy hype phase for Natlan

@@ryjitarose5590 um, I think your post would be better as a blog post. More people can see it and learn from it. Try registering for Wordpress and post your comments there. It all looks interesting to me but you sharing this on RU-vid means I can’t copy paste some of the names because RU-vid mobile doesn’t have copy paste. It also means many won’t find your recommendations.

Ohh yes yes yes thank you SO much for writing all this out, I've just spent ages taking notes, the language nerd in me is SO grateful someone took the time to comment an essay :D I have zero background in this tree of languages so any kind of breakdown like this is like finding buried treasure XD I hate having to run around blind in a new area from not having any etymological context

@@retto1155 I'm just very happy people actually read my comment, you made my day with this reply 😭

they can't leave their nation anyway, because of the curse. I think that the Traveler would be solving this problem for the Archon quest

I have a feeling we will DEFINITELY get vanessa's lore in complete detail and possibly get that through one of her ancestors (current archon?)

I think they’re all dead

Nah, they'll likely name NPCs with random spanish words, "Nacho" "Caliente", "Anzuelo", a lot of Fontaine NPCs are named like that 💀

@@n_gale1245 They do that for the Liyue names as well. Feel like they do that on purpose for the memes.

@@IMtiredal They probably do it so English speakers can easily pronounce the words. All the names are pronounced in an english way even when they know the proper pronounciation (like in liyue)

It’s not hoyos fault not every va has insane pronunciation skills

@@catwithakeyboard9058 I'd blame the English director more than the voice actors

Ugh I know right. The hell. Respect that she tries to pronounce them right. I could never

Ikr 💀

Inconsiderate

No, it’s Pre-Colonzation she talking about,

@@1swagevilregalallen479 the lore before....yes....but the current era......😊😊😊

There is no Spanish part because it's pre-colonial!!

@@medeiapsyche you will see

@@Sora-kaslana Uh No, there isnt any Spain influence 😭