What Does It Mean to Be a Christian Nationalist? 

Since others won’t or can’t, nor conceive of offering a generous account on this issue, we will. Lord willing, in a few months, many will know this Christian Nationalism is the consistent view of the Christian. God rest

Prayerfully, in the next few months I in the Lord’s help can make the case why Christian Nationalism is the consistent view of the Christian. God rest

@@TheChristianNationalist8692because Christian Nationalism is blatant idolatry.

That is because it is a skewed version of Christianity. Anytime you mix Christianity with something else, you will always have a water-down religion that misses the mark of the Great Commission and what the Gospel was about. Christian Nationalism holds the love of the country on the same level as the love of the Gospel. How can I love my neighbors when leaders of this movement demonize brothers and sisters in Christ who only have a different perspective on how the country should be run. I love my country, but kingdoms rise, and they fall, but the Kingdom of God is forever.

They aren't going to be let in the room

Nope, don't do it

I do not think they would allow me on, but prayerfully, perhaps in the next few months after I make the case for Christian Nationalism, each Christian will realized it is our mandate. God rest

@@PrayerTableYeah. If Christians were consistent, they would know that Christian Nationalism should be our collective aim. I’ll make the case until others are able to see, Lord willing. God rest

United States is based on religious freedom. You can not control this. Jesus clearly states this is not our home. I am also a Catholic and my beliefs are love thy neighbor and pray for your enemies saving the united states is not going to save you!!

Seriously. Good point

Because if they did their baseless suppositions on this issue would expose them as cowards!

Because it flies in the face of everything our Founding Fathers stood for?

Agreed! As soon as I saw that they didn't have the intellectual integrity to have an actual discussion with a Christian Nationalist I turned it off. Sadly, the Christian Nationalist guys have been asking them to sit down and have a discussion, but they don't seem interested.

Combining love for country with Bible is blasphemy

It’s TGC what did you expect?

@@ReformedSooner24 Yep. My bad for sure!

Prayerfully, I hope to make that clear in the series I’m beginning on this issue of Christian Nationalism. Lord willing, many will not be able to deny the force of the arguments. God rest

@@ReformedSooner24Yeah.

@@joelsaint3185Yep. Hopefully they’ll listen to reason. I’m ready and willing to explain. God rest

Or Marxism, lockdowns, vaccines, false teachers who are “reformed” pushing doctrines of demons.

History is history, you know how to read.

The “dangers”? How is education or knowledge of America’s history of systemic racism dangerous?

The Incompatibility of Critical Theory and Christianity From 2019 I believe.

@@dadduorplol. That’s not what CRT is about. We’ve had less slavery than most every other nation on the planet.

Do you know what woke means?

@@chadmccoy8032 liberal, social justice warrior , gay , crt , Marxism, pro government

@@chadmccoy8032 It means confronting (or pretending to confront) racism and injustice (which are things only white people do), which needs to be dug out from beneath every rock, and pulled out from behind every tree, nook, crack, cranny, comic strip, movie, tv show, song lyric, poem, short story, novel, video game, cooking recipe, clothing choice, parenting style....

Yes he did somewhat. It could have been pushed even further. God rest

Maybe Duncan is concerned with making Wilson curl in defeat into the fetal position! (An indirect claim Duncan recently made.) Anyone even remotely aware of Wilson thinks this claim by Duncan was weird and ridiculous. Makes me think he is woefully ignorant of what he opposes.

@@nazhospesYes he is.

I'm seeing so many of these critics lately and wonder if they've ever actually listened to the teachers from Moscow. It seems close to slanderous at times. So tragic they're doing this.

@@katherinewilliams4500Truly inconsistent. We are to yearn like Paul, “I would to God, that not only thou, but also all that hear me this day, were both almost, and altogether such as I am, except these bonds.” Acts 26:29 God rest

Philippians 3: 7But whatever things were gain to me, those things I have counted as loss for the sake of Christ. 8More than that, I count all things to be loss in view of the surpassing value of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord, for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and count them but rubbish so that I may gain Christ, 9and may be found in Him, not having a righteousness of my own derived from the Law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which comes from God on the basis of faith, 10that I may know Him and the power of His resurrection and the fellowship of His sufferings, being conformed to His death; 11in order that I may attain to the resurrection from the dead. 12Not that I have already obtained it or have already become perfect, but I press on so that I may lay hold of that for which also I was laid hold of by Christ Jesus. 13Brethren, I do not regard myself as having laid hold of it yet; but one thing I do: forgetting what lies behind and reaching forward to what lies ahead, 14I press on toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus. 15Let us therefore, as many as are perfect, have this attitude; and if in anything you have a different attitude, God will reveal that also to you; 16however, let us keep living by that same standard to which we have attained. 17Brethren, join in following my example, and observe those who walk according to the pattern you have in us. 18For many walk, of whom I often told you, and now tell you even weeping, that they are enemies of the cross of Christ, 19whose end is destruction, whose god is their appetite, and whose glory is in their shame, who set their minds on earthly things. 20For our citizenship is in heaven, from which also we eagerly wait for a Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ; 21who will transform the body of our humble state into conformity with the body of His glory, by the exertion of the power that He has even to subject all things to Himself.

Amen. More than well written. God rest

Have you studied Revelation 13? What can you share of it?

We by the strength of God should permeate the entire realm of politics for the Christ. God rest

Production quality, yes, amen! God rest

It’s says “this world is not our home” America was never Christian, it’s all Freemasons, just like most if not all the people that work in TGC, and run the churches with their Rockefeller college degrees. It’s all Babylon. The persecution coming to America is to separate the sheep and the goats; people can see the great falling away and know that the abusive pastors that purposely ruin families with unbiblical advice, have ignored abuse instead of dealing with the men (or sometimes the women, but it’s mostly the men who “crept in through weak women that are in sin and lusts) youth pastors that groom all these kids and hurt them more than anything, promote Roman sports and Babylon entertainment… were never really believers and it will cause a real conversion in real lost sheep. We are in the middle of the great falling away with the deconstruction movement, and the fake believers pretending to expose it because Satan is controlling the churches. Patriotic Christians are fakes, some just really ignorant but most of them know and want American prosperity. Soldiers that have awards are Freemasons along with the police and all of it. The symbolism and one eye, hidden hand, wearing either scarlet and purple or magenta… black and white for duality etc… it’s all over these teachers pages. If you are patriotic in America, you are worshiping Satan, even if you don’t know it yet, repent before you bow without even realizing it, either. Know your Bible, and unfortunately know your enemy and get out of Babylon (the buildings in America that call themselves churches and only hire men with their approved degrees… which is also unbiblical. The church is scattered, people need to wake up and realize they are doing exactly what the Israelites were doing with their golden calves (modern day is golden globes, Grammys, sports trophies, medals of honor, honor roll etc. all satans alternatives to the crown of life) The red heifer is significant, also… but people just sitting there blind arguing politics and theology when it’s all done divisive on purpose.

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No contradiction. Remember, the nation we live is a definable and big place to worry over, and ought not to stop because of the evils in other arenas. The Christian Nationalist would agree, but say the best for al nations is submit themselves unto Christ, and therefore, Christian Nationalism is still viable in your system. We worry for the world as well sibling. Please cease presupposing for us where our concern ends. God rest

It is hard to know. Fact is, they were reading the comments and gave not even an iota of a reply to those who’ve challenged them on this very point. I know they must be busy but the lack of rigor testifies to some overt bias and unwillingness to grapple with those who propose our view. God rest

Interesting

Exactly right. It is a shame, but too often discussion is skin deep on issues so significant. God rest

Amen. This is a serious sin before the Lord. If they cannot see it now I hope they repent before the Lord have them see. God rest

Amen. In Luke 12:45 the master returns to punish the servants that he finds beating his fellow servants. There is a place for bringing true allegations of wrong in the Body, but they must be supported by witnesses and effort must be made for reconciliation and to fairly represent the accused. The accuser of the brothers is Satan. Very serious business to join in his work.

The history of nationalism is closely connected to fascism for a reason. Instilling loyalty and servitude to one’s country was used as a control tactic by the likes of Hilter and Mussolini.

​@@kathmandoozlethose are clear examples of government wrongdoing in the name of religion. That does not mean that Christians influencing government is necessarily the same thing. The slave trade was ended by a Christian minority who stood up and said "our nation isn't doing this anymore" and they started an abolition movement that spread to the government and made the slave trade illegal in all states, even though there were still many many people in those states who did not believe as they did. But because they took that stand and changed those laws, the culture around slavery began to shift, and eventually it became unacceptable to everyone. Is that not the exact same thing as what your side claims Christian Nationalism is? Is it any different from Christians today working to outlaw abortion, the literal slaughter of millions of human beings?

@@kathmandoozle If I said that I'm all in on the idea of a Democratic Republic, you're not going to respond by saying that a Republic is a bad thing, just look at the People's Republic of China. That would be silly, because the term Republic is modified by the word Democratic. In the same way that a Democratic Republic is not the same thing as a straight Republic, Christian Nationalism is not the same thing as straight Nationalism. You're arguing in the wrong direction, and I happen to agree with you.

You hold the Constitution in higher regard than Christian values. You think Christianity in America is okay, just as long as it conforms to the more important Constitution.

@@christopherlees1134 Christopher, that is an assumption on your part, and a wrong one. I am simply separating the two, as the Constitution is not a Christian document. It is not written with Christianity or any religion in mind. To use it, to try to push an agenda on all citizens is not only illegal, but evil. Others who are not Christian have equal rights in America. Do your homework. As to assumptions, hear God's word. "He that answers a matter before he understands it, it is folly and shame unto him." (Proverbs 18:13) I pray for you, in all honesty and without malice. It is beliefs, like the one you professed, that threaten democracy for everyone.

@@paulbobier7857 Every law is pushing an agenda on the people, but Christian laws push a righteous and just agenda. And your comment proves the way I described your point of view is not an assumption.

@@christopherlees1134 Christopher, America is for everyone, not just people who have the same viewpoint as you. If you feel yours is "above" others, or does not include an equality and respect of people of all walks and beliefs, you are a complete bigot and that is not ""Christianity", nor are you being a good representative of Jesus. Goodbye. If you contact me again, I will report you.

Agreed but catechesis is affecting to the formation of new generations. What/Who you are taught well remains. God rest

If no project of building, they’ll be nothing for these movers of other countries to come to, whether illegals, or legal aliens. God rest

Maybe because the bible isn't sympathetic to Christian Nationalism... "What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? God will judge those outside. Expel the wicked person from among YOU" - 1 Corinthians 5: 12+13

@notavailable4891. Yeah, I took this discussion as a colossal waste of time. They know only one version…the most extreme. The CN’s I’m aware of would never accept this silly definition. On the other hand, the leftists who use “Christian Nationalism” as a bogeyman label would identify everyone at the table here as a CN…and would acknowledge very little sunlight between patriotism and CN!

@@hhhieronymusbotch I don't know. I'm not sure I know what christian nationalism even is. I suppose if TGC wants to present this issue this way that's their prerogative, I was hoping to see a more balanced discussion but I am not their target audience.

@@notavailable4891 feel free to find me any form or interpretation of Christian nationalism that doesn't involve judging people outside our faith.

If you vote then i guess you're a "christian nationalist"​@hhhieronymusbotch3505

Every time our disobedience to the world is in service to Christ the Lord God is our rest. We are to obey men, but no further when their demands cancels God’s own want and words. God rest

How is it possible to legislate the gospel? You think that would be a bad idea, right? Explain what it even means to legislate the gospel.

@@christopherlees1134 Rather than saying "legislate the Gospel", I should have said "legislate 'Judeo-Christian moral principles'". The Gospel is the work of the Holy Spirit, not that of a political system. Sorry for the poor choice of words. The thrust behind my question is this: - should a Christian aspire for a non-Christian to become a Christian by hearing the Gospel and accepting it? - or should a Christian aspire for a non-Christian to simply live by (willingly or unwillingly) 'Judeo-Christian moral principles' without ever accepting, let alone hearing, the Gospel?

@@justingorman1068 First of all, there is no such thing as Judeo-Christian. Look up the interesting origin of the phrase, which is rather recent. Jews reject Jesus Christ so Judeo-Christian is an oxymoron. Jewish culture is not at all like Christian culture. Now to your main point: I say it's not "or" but "both." As people, we should preach the gospel. As a state, we should have righteous and just laws, and those are Christian laws.

@@christopherlees1134 RE the phrase 'Judeo-Christian': I do not use that phrase myself as I do not find it to be Biblical. In fact, that's why I juxtaposed it against the Gospel which, obviously, is Biblical. That's also why I put the phrase in single quotes. People in the "political sphere" seem to use it, so I opted for it. RE not "or" but "both": What are "Christian laws"? Are they distinct from the Gospel? - If yes, then what's wrong with the Gospel? Is it inadequate? - If no, then is the Gospel being legislated?

@@justingorman1068 I'm glad we agree on the oxymoron Judeo-Christian. Regarding Christian laws and what they are: They are laws informed by Christian values. They are distinct from the gospel in that the gospel is specific to your salvation, whereas Christian values pertain to how we ought to live. Without the moorings of Christian values, we end up with drag queen story hour, abortion on demand, sodomy parades and After School Satan Club.

Interesting.

Doud don't believe in faith alone so no debate needed . He needs to sort that out first

@@JamesStewartarmwrestlingLow-hanging fruit at best. Doug could be completely wrong in one arena and absolutely right in the other. The ones who evade the depth of consistent discussion are usually those who have no support for their view. Sibling, think better on these things. Better for the Church. God rest

No joke

​@@MTNMT265 total joke

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There was nothing rigorous about it. They did not deal with any of the arguments presented by Doug Wilson, Stephen Wolfe, or any of the other folks that have pointed out that the concept of pluralism has and will always fail and lead to open rebellion against God.

@@spartakos3178. Doug Wilson is a national treasure, but I’m not sure he’s correct, here. Classical Liberalism is a good and fairly stable system that has endured for a couple hundred years, now. We probably do need a vaguely Judeo-Christian consensus to avoid the problems we’re going through of late. Yes, secularism is a religion, and it’s a religion that corrodes. We cannot base our politics on its dogmatic fanaticism. But “Christ or Chaos”? It’s probably not quite that dire.

@hanssvineklev648 We are murdering babies and mutilating children. Those children who are not being murdered or mutilated are killing themselves at record rates. Never before has a society been so rich, lived in such luxury, but been so depressed and self medicated, not only on antidepressants but hard narcotics. Chaos is a gentle description for our idolotrous and rebellious society. Demonic is more apt.

​@@hanssvineklev648I like what you said from an agree to disagree standpoint, we need more of that to Ultimately be critical in the right things

Nah.

@@Speakingintothevoid700Interesting.

​@@Speakingintothevoid700People who are unwilling to actually engage with those they disagree with forfeit the right to claim they stand on truth.

Here I am. God rest

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All of the boomers in the conversation would have been British loyalists during the American Revolution....

I don't think the passages from Scripture were at all out dated. The older guys do indeed have more history. Here in Europe they view all "Evangelicals" from the US and probably here, as radical dummies who no nothing of science or of their present culture. So, what do you mean by cowardly on this topic? Are all "patriots" Christian Nationalists? I don't live in American culture although I was raised there. And why isn't this discussion helpful? How would you approach it?

Well said, from this Generation X guy from Massachusetts. Cowardly is the correct word and I'm glad you used it. Where is the masculinity in this discussion? They are talking about how nationalism is a word that sounds bad, scary, and they "feel" like its a bad thing. Very unmanly, like the typical American Christian church. It's all catering to women, their emotions, their handwringing and pearl-clutching. Christian Nationalism is not confusing. We believe The LORD wants nations to have laws that are righteous and just. Christianity is righteous and just. Therefore, America's laws should be based on Christianity. America should have Christian leaders who enact policies informed by a Christian worldview, and this should gradually shape the attitudes and beliefs of the population - just as antiChristian secularism has over the last few decades.

You have my attention. Continue. God rest

​@@christopherlees1134Listen up, This Country wasn't Founded as a Christian Nation, probably because many of the Founding Fathers were Deists. Even the ones who weren't Deists like Washington, didn't want the Church anywhere near the government. Everything you are for, the Founders we're against, so you're not much of an American in my eyes. Christians have taken advantage of the rest of this Country since the ink on the Constitution was dry. The pledge of allegiance was highjacked and bastardized by the right as well as our currency. Many of those faces you see on American currency would be appalled to see their likeness next to religious dogma. Here's a direct quote from Washington, concerning Christian laws. The United States of America should have a foundation free from the influence of clergy. George Washington

"What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? God will judge those outside. Expel the wicked person from among YOU" - 1 Corinthians 5: 12+13

@@hhhieronymusbotch The context of that verse is Paul rebuking the church of Corinth for tolerating sexual immorality within the church, so that verse is not meant to imply that Christians should have nothing to say about the culture around them. Proverbs 14:34 “Righteousness exalts a nation,but sin is a reproach to any people.” If Romans 13 teaches that government is instituted by God as His “Deacon” (servant) to reward good and punish evil, what do Christians do in a constitutional republic when their government is rewarding evil and punishing good? Especially when the founders of that nation acknowledges that human rights come from God?

Pretty easy to debate against something that your opponent would debate against also! Until they can state the CN position in such a way that Wilson, Wolfe, et al would agree is accurate, they are debating with a pretend opponent. Though, like a little boy pretending to be invincible against scads of enemies, it is a way to always come out the winner!

@@nazhospesYes. There is validity in what is written. God rest

You should check out "Why Do The Nations Rage? The Demonic Origins of Christian Nationalism" by David A. Ritchie. A conservative pastor living in one of the most conservative areas of Texas who does a great job distinguishing the difference between Christian Patriotism and Christian Nationalism, and how the latter has a lot of overlap with idolatry in the Old Testament and the "principalities and powers" of the New Testament.

Pastors need to be educated about this stuff. The Christian Nationalism is tame. Look up seven mountain mandate. They have plans.

@chadmccoy8032 Oh I have become well aware of that agenda. Thank you for suggesting I look into it, though. I believe a lot of Christian Nationalist follow the 7 mountain mandate also. Some likely don't even realize they are following it. It's so casually talked about in those churches and rarely explained that some might not even realize their church preaches that stuff in part or whole.

I prayed for confirmation on whether I should talk to my pastor about my concerns. The day before, I was speaking to my husband about how the Jewish nation didn't recognize Christ as the messiah because they were looking for a political leader. Well, next Sunday, my pastor spoke about that same thing. I took that as confirmation to speak to my pastor. I told him all my concerns, and we discussed the difference between Christian Nationalist and a patriot Christian. He is aware of this, and he is also concerned. This puts my heart at ease about our church.

I think your worries are overwhelmingly valid for those who are idolatrous for the nation. But every Christian, is if their consistent, a Christian Nationalist. I can prove by a mere Christian: are you to yearn for the salvation of a few in a America, or the entire nation? To ask the question is to answer it. Be serious. The Christian ought vie for the salvation of an entire people and pray for the same. If so, the Christian, if consistent, wants a Christian Nation. God rest

Actually not exactly. Jesus sought anyone who would submit in positions of power. More so after His ascension. But also within the earthly ministry He held. Think of the centurion. Think of Joseph of Arametha. Or after the Ethiopian baptized. We could go on, but Christ wants all, and therefore desires nations who are all submissive to the Father. God rest

@@TheChristianNationalist8692 I could have expressed myself better. Jesus definitely engaged at various points with religious leaders and politicians - but for the sake of their souls. He didn't 'negotiate' with them - or compete with them - or seek to defeat them - in order to bring about change. The plan of God is for a single holy nation within the nations - the church: 1 Peter 2:9 ESV But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for his own possession, that you may proclaim the excellencies of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light. The Christian nationalist believes that Jesus is the truth - and the life - what he doesn't accept is that Jesus is THE WAY. Jesus being the way is about more than people only being able to be forgiven through him. It's also about the fact that the only way in which we can redeem others is by living the cross ourselves - sacrificing to establish justice through service - instead of seeking to dominate culture - so that mercy might be offered within an environment of justice.

Agreed.

Amen❤😊. Gives me warmth inside. Let us pray it is achieved in us in our generation. God rest

We need black swan event. A precious awakening of many like these in this discussion. God rest

Yes. It is a shame. God rest

Right. You see the lack of “theological diversity” in this panel when the phrase “we win by losing” or “the kingdom of God advances when Christians did.” Those are not statements many Christians would have agreed with historically.

@@tropicalpines4585Do tell? God rest

It is favorable to, but can cancel our clear Scripture to the contrary, or that which would include other eschatological visions. God rest

Absolutely sibling. God rest

Amen & Absolute. God rest

As you ought. You love America to be fully saved in the Lord the Beloved I hope. He is the Only hope of anyone of us. God rest

I don’t think they’ll allow me to come on. Too bad, but ditto. God rest

Close. He isn’t sure how far he ought to go with concept, but if we can triumph spiritually over a nation in the will of God, by definition, this is Christian & Nationalism. God rest

I concur with your estimate. God rest

Agreed. Wesley was/is wiser than the reformed even tried to realize. God rest

That would be helpful for all. God rest

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I’m sure of the same. God rest

Yes. Sadly, the same end, though I’m not sure they meant to use as a tactic like leftist. The Lord knows. God rest

There is no movement, this wasn't Founded as a Christian Nation and it will never be one.

How about seeking the good for one’s nation, better? Read Jeremiah when Israel is sent. We are to seek the people’s good and there is nothing better than blessings from the Beloved. God rest

Yes, it is best and preferable for it to be true Lord. Absolute agreement. Without which, every nation sooner or later will be collapsed under Holy Hatred of the Most High. God rest

America was Founded by Deists like Jefferson, Adams, Madison, Franklin, etc.

Interesting

No. Christ is the means and the goal to gather as many as can be gathered unto salvation. Be careful how you mock your brother. It will sting. God rest

Awesome. God rest

You really need to go back to school kid! First off, "In God We Trust" is only in the pledge of allegiance because a bunch of Republicans got scared that the Soviets had nukes! You should be embarrassed that your kind highjacked the pledge, like thieves in the night. Many of this Countries Founding Fathers were Deists, who came to this Country to escape the Church and it's dogma. Let me share with you in their own words how they felt. The United States of America should have a foundation free from the influence of clergy. George Washington The purpose of separation of church and state is to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strife that has soaked the soil of Europe with blood for centuries. James Madison This would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion in it. John Adams Erecting the 'wall of separation between church and state'... is absolutely essential in a free society. Thomas Jefferson The way to see by Faith is to shut the Eye of Reason. Benjamin Franklin The Bible: a history of wickedness that has served to corrupt and brutalise mankind. Thomas Paine The United States of America have exhibited, perhaps, the first example of governments erected on the simple principles of nature. . . . [In] the formation of the American governments . . . it will never be pretended that any persons employed in that service had interviews with the gods, or were in any degree under the influence of heaven. . . . These governments were contrived merely by the use of reason and the senses. John Adams No man shall be compelled to frequent or support any religious worship, place, or ministry whatsoever. Thomas Jefferson

Perhaps, but be careful. It might simply be he is naive or hasn’t looked enough consistently at the Lordship of Jesus over all. This can happen. God rest

The Founding Fathers were very clear about separation of Church and State, probably because many came to this Country to escape the church and it's dogma. I've witnessed my entire life Christians trying to tear down what the Founders created and it angers me. Christians best tread lightly, our patience runs thin and we've grown tired of Christians constantly trying to dictate how others live and anytime someone pushes back against them, they play the victim, crying religious persecution. It's time to start labeling churches/religions hate groups.

Christian Nationalism is how we bring the nation back to where "Transvestite Story Hour" at your child's grade school isn't even an option. That's why CN is on the rise. Christian Nationalism is gaining in popularity because Christians want radical change. Christians want radical change because we've witnessed radical change in the other direction (antiChristian direction) which has changed the texture and culture of our nation in a bad way. In order to affect such change, America must be governed by Christians. We hold Christianity above democracy, inclusion, tolerance, transvestite story hour and so forth. We want any form of government, like democracy, to submit and conform to a Christian value system rather than the other way around. We think America would be a better place if it was ruled by Christians rather than people who hate Jesus Christ.

John the Baptist had a sharp eye on government. So did Paul. The government is simply a collective of people. It is not to be avoided because they are people who must bow. Always to the Lord. God rest

Insight valid. God rest

Ad hom.

Not exactly liberals, but definitely lack aggression for consistency and depth and rigor, so therefore they take on the tropes of the opposition. God rest

Love sent to you sibling. Every word gold. God rest

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:) I had to chuckle. God rest

"What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? God will judge those outside. Expel the wicked person from among YOU" - 1 Corinthians 5: 12+13

Shame.

Jesus would definitely be a Democrat? not a chance, unless you have examples.

@@WilbertRobichaud Evidently you don't know the teachings of Christ. Read your Bible and learn something.

@@user-mn6pm2bs3q Not what I ask you, Jesus would have answered without insults.

​@@user-mn6pm2bs3qHe wouldn't be involved in politics at all. He'd just be a very good guy helping people while building a *heavenly* kingdom. That's kind of the whole point of his life and teaching. Be in the world, not of the world, etc.

@@merg-vh5sx His leanings would be democrats to inspire Trump supporters to weigh the values, honor, and principles of a man before you thrust him into the leadership of your country.

It doesn't. That's why it's a winner, just like evangelicalism was before COVID and 'deconstruction'. Christianity is difficult. Very few actually attempt it.

No joke